Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying to
gain a reputation
"http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off tasting
cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very bad french
wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is therefore very
soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not drink
it.
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:37:09 +0100, "Mike.. .  ."
 wrote:

>Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying to
>gain a reputation
>"http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
>I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off tasting
>cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very bad french
>wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is therefore very
>soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not drink
>it.

No one cares about your useless opinions, pisshead.

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:37:09 +0100, "Mike.. .  ."
 wrote:

>Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not drink it.

Fuck off. You're fooling no one. You'd drink battery acid if you
thought it had alcohol in it, alky.

"Mike.. .  ."  wrote:

> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying
> to gain a reputation
> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off
> tasting cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very
> bad french wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is
> therefore very soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that,
> even I will not drink it.

British wine does have a reputation but it's a very bad one. English
wine can be good, especially the sparkling wines.

Whatever you do, do not confuse the two. 'British wine' has a very
specific legal meaning: it means that it was produced in Britain from
grape juice not grown in Britain. 

See http://www.english-wine.com/confusion.html

> British wine is no more British than a table, made from a Norwegian
> pine tree but made into a table in Britain, is "British". 
> 
> British wine is fermented and bottled in Britain, but from grape
> juice, usually in concentrate form, grown abroad. The process is in
> principle just the same as the one you follow if you buy a home wine
> kit from Boots, though obviously it is industrial in scale and
> sophisticated in the technological control of the process. 

Or http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/pdfs/codeenforcement0306.pdf

> British Wine is obtained from concentrated grape must and is not a
> wine sector product.


-- 
Duncan Booth

"Duncan Booth" <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:Xns9C96770C03E8Aduncanbooth@127.0.0.1...
> "Mike.. .  ."  wrote:
>
>> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying
>> to gain a reputation
>> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
>> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off
>> tasting cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very
>> bad french wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is
>> therefore very soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that,
>> even I will not drink it.
>
> British wine does have a reputation but it's a very bad one. English
> wine can be good, especially the sparkling wines.
>
> Whatever you do, do not confuse the two. 'British wine' has a very
> specific legal meaning: it means that it was produced in Britain from
> grape juice not grown in Britain.
>
> See http://www.english-wine.com/confusion.html
>
>> British wine is no more British than a table, made from a Norwegian
>> pine tree but made into a table in Britain, is "British".
>>
>> British wine is fermented and bottled in Britain, but from grape
>> juice, usually in concentrate form, grown abroad. The process is in
>> principle just the same as the one you follow if you buy a home wine
>> kit from Boots, though obviously it is industrial in scale and
>> sophisticated in the technological control of the process.
>
> Or http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/pdfs/codeenforcement0306.pdf
>
>> British Wine is obtained from concentrated grape must and is not a
>> wine sector product.
>
>
We have a similar product in Canada labelled: "Cellared in Canada". 
Easy-drinking, characterless plonk made from imported juice, sometimes with 
a bit of Canadian juice added.
Graham

Following up to Duncan Booth 

> 'British wine' has a very
> specific legal meaning: it means that it was produced in Britain from
> grape juice not grown in Britain.

ahhhh! Thanks
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"Mike.. . ."  wrote in message 
news:n7spsrwfb190.1w4et0jp0nzne.dlg@40tude.net...
> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying to
> gain a reputation
> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off tasting
> cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very bad french
> wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is therefore very
> soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not drink
> it.
> -- 
All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful.  I 
wouldn't even use it for cooking.

Tina

On 2009-10-03 18:31:48 +0100, "Christina Websell" 
 said:

> 
> "Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
> news:n7spsrwfb190.1w4et0jp0nzne.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying to
>> gain a reputation
>> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
>> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off tasting
>> cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very bad french
>> wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is therefore very
>> soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not drink
>> it.
>> --
> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful.  I
> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
> 
> Tina

Then you're buying the wrong wine from the wrong places.  Sharpham 
vineyards make really good wine and we enjoy it a lot when we go over 
there for lunch at the excellent restaurant.
-- 
Sacha

Sacha  wrote:

> On 2009-10-03 18:31:48 +0100, "Christina Websell" 
> said:
> 
>> 
>> "Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
>> news:n7spsrwfb190.1w4et0jp0nzne.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is
>>> trying to gain a reputation
>>> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
>>> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off
>>> tasting cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very
>>> bad french wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is
>>> therefore very soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that,
>>> even I will not drink it.
>>> --
>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap. 
>> Dreadful.  I wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>> 
>> Tina
> 
> Then you're buying the wrong wine from the wrong places.  Sharpham 
> vineyards make really good wine and we enjoy it a lot when we go over 
> there for lunch at the excellent restaurant.

I think Sharpham vineyards would be horrified if you suggested to them 
that they made British wine.

-- 
Duncan Booth

The message 
from Sacha  contains these words:

> On 2009-10-03 18:31:48 +0100, "Christina Websell" 
>  said:

> > 
> > "Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
> > news:n7spsrwfb190.1w4et0jp0nzne.dlg@40tude.net...
> >> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying to
> >> gain a reputation
> >> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
> >> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off tasting
> >> cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very bad french
> >> wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is therefore very
> >> soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not drink
> >> it.
> >> --
> > All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap. 
> > Dreadful.  I
> > wouldn't even use it for cooking.
> > 
> > Tina

> Then you're buying the wrong wine from the wrong places.  Sharpham 
> vineyards make really good wine and we enjoy it a lot when we go over 
> there for lunch at the excellent restaurant.

    You didn't pay attention. The definition of "British wine" (already
given)  has no connection with English  vineyards.

    Janet

On 2009-10-04 12:35:31 +0100, Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> said:

> Sacha  wrote:
> 
>> On 2009-10-03 18:31:48 +0100, "Christina Websell"
>>  said:
>> 
>>> 
>>> "Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
>>> news:n7spsrwfb190.1w4et0jp0nzne.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is
>>>> trying to gain a reputation
>>>> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
>>>> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off
>>>> tasting cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very
>>>> bad french wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is
>>>> therefore very soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that,
>>>> even I will not drink it.
>>>> --
>>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.
>>> Dreadful.  I wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>> 
>> Then you're buying the wrong wine from the wrong places.  Sharpham
>> vineyards make really good wine and we enjoy it a lot when we go over
>> there for lunch at the excellent restaurant.
> 
> I think Sharpham vineyards would be horrified if you suggested to them
> that they made British wine.

Sorry if I misunderstood your post but  I've come late to this thread.  
When I clicked on the link I got an Error message, saying the page 
couldn't be found?  I've now seen the post with the definition of 
'British wine' in it!!
-- 
Sacha

"Sacha"  wrote in message 
news:7iq3v5F3286g6U1@mid.individual.net...
> On 2009-10-03 18:31:48 +0100, "Christina Websell" 
>  said:
>
>>
>> "Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
>> news:n7spsrwfb190.1w4et0jp0nzne.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying to
>>> gain a reputation
>>> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
>>> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off tasting
>>> cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very bad french
>>> wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is therefore very
>>> soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not 
>>> drink
>>> it.
>>> --
>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful. 
>> I
>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>>
>> Tina
>
> Then you're buying the wrong wine from the wrong places.  Sharpham 
> vineyards make really good wine and we enjoy it a lot when we go over 
> there for lunch at the excellent restaurant.

I've only bought British wine from a supermarket.  8% and tastes dire.  I 
can make better wine than that myself!

Tina

On 2009-10-04 18:46:26 +0100, "Christina Websell" 
 said:

> 
> "Sacha"  wrote in message
> news:7iq3v5F3286g6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 2009-10-03 18:31:48 +0100, "Christina Websell"
>>  said:
>> 
>>> 
>>> "Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
>>> news:n7spsrwfb190.1w4et0jp0nzne.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying to
>>>> gain a reputation
>>>> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
>>>> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off tasting
>>>> cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very bad french
>>>> wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is therefore very
>>>> soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not
>>>> drink
>>>> it.
>>>> --
>>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful.
>>> I
>>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>> 
>> Then you're buying the wrong wine from the wrong places.  Sharpham
>> vineyards make really good wine and we enjoy it a lot when we go over
>> there for lunch at the excellent restaurant.
> 
> I've only bought British wine from a supermarket.  8% and tastes dire.  I
> can make better wine than that myself!
> 
> Tina

My fault, though, Tina.  I hadn't seen the original explanation of 
'British wine'.  Sharpham is of a rather different standard!
-- 
Sacha

In message , Christina Websell 
 writes
>
>"Sacha"  wrote in message
>news:7iq3v5F3286g6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 2009-10-03 18:31:48 +0100, "Christina Websell"
>>  said:
>>
>>>
>>> "Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
>>> news:n7spsrwfb190.1w4et0jp0nzne.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying to
>>>> gain a reputation
>>>> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
>>>> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off tasting
>>>> cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very bad french
>>>> wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is therefore very
>>>> soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not
>>>> drink
>>>> it.
>>>> --
>>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful.
>>> I
>>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>>>
>>> Tina
>>
>> Then you're buying the wrong wine from the wrong places.  Sharpham
>> vineyards make really good wine and we enjoy it a lot when we go over
>> there for lunch at the excellent restaurant.
>
>I've only bought British wine from a supermarket.  8% and tastes dire.  I
>can make better wine than that myself!
>
>Tina
>
>
>
>
>
Try Waitrose.
-- 
June Hughes

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:59:15 +0100, June Hughes
 wrote:

>Try Waitrose.

Try dying of breast cancer. And SOON!

-- 
Sacha

In message , Christina Websell 
 writes
>
>"Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
>news:n7spsrwfb190.1w4et0jp0nzne.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying to
>> gain a reputation
>> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
>> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off tasting
>> cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very bad french
>> wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is therefore very
>> soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not drink
>> it.
>> --
>All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful.  I
>wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>
>Tina
>
>
>
Some of it is good.  I don't like white wine but Carr & Bury used to do 
a good one.  Waitrose frequently stock British white.
-- 
June Hughes

Following up to Christina Websell 

> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful.  I 
> wouldn't even use it for cooking.

I used the second bottle in a sauce rather than empty it down the sink
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Following up to June Hughes 

> Some of it is good.  I don't like white wine but Carr & Bury used to do 
> a good one.  Waitrose frequently stock British white.

I think you have done a Sacha here, we are talking of imported bulk wine
bottled in UK, which is "british wine" not "english wine" as I think Duncan
explained upthread.
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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:24:57 +0100, "Mike.. .  ."
 wrote:

>Following up to June Hughes 
>
>> Some of it is good.  I don't like white wine but Carr & Bury used to do 
>> a good one.  Waitrose frequently stock British white.
>
>I think

Do you fuck. Single brain-celled pisshead cunt.

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:13:31 +0100, "Mike.. .  ."
 wrote:

>Following up to Christina Websell 
>
>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful.  I 
>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>
>I used the second bottle in a sauce rather than empty it down the sink

Now we know your lying. Pisshead.

Mike.. .  . wrote:

>Following up to June Hughes 
>
>> Some of it is good.  I don't like white wine but Carr & Bury used to do 
>> a good one.  Waitrose frequently stock British white.
>
>I think you have done a Sacha here, we are talking of imported bulk wine
>bottled in UK, which is "british wine" not "english wine" as I think Duncan
>explained upthread.

Imported in bulk and bottled over here is vin de wherever not usually
british wine. It can become british fortified if it has spirt added I
think. I'd steer clear of anything not English or Welsh if I were you.
Perhaps if climate change brings about a warming of the Scottish
climate they could shift from see potatoes to wine production. :-)
-- 
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

On 2009-10-05 15:08:56 +0100, Phil Cook  said:

> Mike.. .  . wrote:
> 
>> Following up to June Hughes
>> 
>>> Some of it is good.  I don't like white wine but Carr & Bury used to do
>>> a good one.  Waitrose frequently stock British white.
>> 
>> I think you have done a Sacha here, we are talking of imported bulk wine
>> bottled in UK, which is "british wine" not "english wine" as I think Duncan
>> explained upthread.
> 
> Imported in bulk and bottled over here is vin de wherever not usually
> british wine. It can become british fortified if it has spirt added I
> think. I'd steer clear of anything not English or Welsh if I were you.
> Perhaps if climate change brings about a warming of the Scottish
> climate they could shift from see potatoes to wine production. :-)

Is this - memory shift going on here - like British sherry of the dear 
(and mercifully dead) long-ago?
-- 
Sacha

"Mike.. . ."  wrote in message 
news:1jsbwio4we2rv$.f71v37eladfy.dlg@40tude.net...
> Following up to Christina Websell
>
>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful. 
>> I
>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>
> I used the second bottle in a sauce rather than empty it down the sink

A good use for it - it's certainly not fit to drink.

Tina

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:27:40 +0100, "Christina Websell"
 wrote:

>
>"Mike.. . ."  wrote in message 
>news:1jsbwio4we2rv$.f71v37eladfy.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Following up to Christina Websell
>>
>>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful. 
>>> I
>>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>>
>> I used the second bottle in a sauce rather than empty it down the sink
>
>A good use for it - it's certainly not fit to drink.
>
>Tina

Why are you feeding the troll?

On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:29:23 +0100, Steve <9ste@zen.uk.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:27:40 +0100, "Christina Websell"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mike.. . ."  wrote in message 
>>news:1jsbwio4we2rv$.f71v37eladfy.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> Following up to Christina Websell
>>>
>>>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.  Dreadful. 
>>>> I
>>>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>>>
>>> I used the second bottle in a sauce rather than empty it down the sink
>>
>>A good use for it - it's certainly not fit to drink.
>>
>>Tina
>
>Why are you feeding the troll?

Tina wants to suck his tiny flacid cock.

"Steve" <9ste@zen.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
news:dnekc51emgu4f7ugeimpk56b388g7diuo2@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:27:40 +0100, "Christina Websell"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
>>news:1jsbwio4we2rv$.f71v37eladfy.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> Following up to Christina Websell
>>>
>>>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap. 
>>>> Dreadful.
>>>> I
>>>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>>>
>>> I used the second bottle in a sauce rather than empty it down the sink
>>
>>A good use for it - it's certainly not fit to drink.
>>
>>Tina
>
> Why are you feeding the troll?

Why are you being a nuisance on here?
Mike is not a troll.

Sacha wrote:

>On 2009-10-05 15:08:56 +0100, Phil Cook  said:
>
>> Mike.. .  . wrote:
>> 
>>> Following up to June Hughes
>>> 
>>>> Some of it is good.  I don't like white wine but Carr & Bury used to do
>>>> a good one.  Waitrose frequently stock British white.
>>> 
>>> I think you have done a Sacha here, we are talking of imported bulk wine
>>> bottled in UK, which is "british wine" not "english wine" as I think Duncan
>>> explained upthread.
>> 
>> Imported in bulk and bottled over here is vin de wherever not usually
>> british wine. It can become british fortified if it has spirt added I
>> think. I'd steer clear of anything not English or Welsh if I were you.
>> Perhaps if climate change brings about a warming of the Scottish
>> climate they could shift from see potatoes to wine production. :-)
>
>Is this - memory shift going on here - like British sherry of the dear 
>(and mercifully dead) long-ago?

Yes but I fear it still exists but that they can't call it sherry any
more because thankfully the producers of the real stuff from Jerez did
a "Champagne" and got a geographical origin restriction on the use of
the word sherry.

-- 
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

On 2009-10-05 22:17:44 +0100, Phil Cook  said:

> Sacha wrote:
> 
>> On 2009-10-05 15:08:56 +0100, Phil Cook  said:
>> 
>>> Mike.. .  . wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Following up to June Hughes
>>>> 
>>>>> Some of it is good.  I don't like white wine but Carr & Bury used to do
>>>>> a good one.  Waitrose frequently stock British white.
>>>> 
>>>> I think you have done a Sacha here, we are talking of imported bulk wine
>>>> bottled in UK, which is "british wine" not "english wine" as I think Duncan
>>>> explained upthread.
>>> 
>>> Imported in bulk and bottled over here is vin de wherever not usually
>>> british wine. It can become british fortified if it has spirt added I
>>> think. I'd steer clear of anything not English or Welsh if I were you.
>>> Perhaps if climate change brings about a warming of the Scottish
>>> climate they could shift from see potatoes to wine production. :-)
>> 
>> Is this - memory shift going on here - like British sherry of the dear
>> (and mercifully dead) long-ago?
> 
> Yes but I fear it still exists but that they can't call it sherry any
> more because thankfully the producers of the real stuff from Jerez did
> a "Champagne" and got a geographical origin restriction on the use of
> the word sherry.

What is it called now so that we can avoid it?!
-- 
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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:12:27 +0100, "Christina Websell"
 wrote:

>
>"Steve" <9ste@zen.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:dnekc51emgu4f7ugeimpk56b388g7diuo2@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:27:40 +0100, "Christina Websell"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
>>>news:1jsbwio4we2rv$.f71v37eladfy.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> Following up to Christina Websell
>>>>
>>>>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap. 
>>>>> Dreadful.
>>>>> I
>>>>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>>>>
>>>> I used the second bottle in a sauce rather than empty it down the sink
>>>
>>>A good use for it - it's certainly not fit to drink.
>>>
>>>Tina
>>
>> Why are you feeding the troll?
>
>Why are you being a nuisance on here?
>Mike is not a troll.

You are wrong. Mike Reid is a troll and is killfiled and ignored in
most other groups. Only the fools here seem to feed him.

Sacha wrote:

>On 2009-10-05 22:17:44 +0100, Phil Cook  said:
>
>> Sacha wrote:

>>> Is this - memory shift going on here - like British sherry of the dear
>>> (and mercifully dead) long-ago?
>> 
>> Yes but I fear it still exists but that they can't call it sherry any
>> more because thankfully the producers of the real stuff from Jerez did
>> a "Champagne" and got a geographical origin restriction on the use of
>> the word sherry.
>
>What is it called now so that we can avoid it?!

British fortified wine.
-- 
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"Steve" <10ste@zen.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
news:eopkc5t8tbd8k27cj2pdo29mvj97t99hm9@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:12:27 +0100, "Christina Websell"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Steve" <9ste@zen.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:dnekc51emgu4f7ugeimpk56b388g7diuo2@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:27:40 +0100, "Christina Websell"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
>>>>news:1jsbwio4we2rv$.f71v37eladfy.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>> Following up to Christina Websell
>>>>>
>>>>>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap.
>>>>>> Dreadful.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used the second bottle in a sauce rather than empty it down the sink
>>>>
>>>>A good use for it - it's certainly not fit to drink.
>>>>
>>>>Tina
>>>
>>> Why are you feeding the troll?
>>
>>Why are you being a nuisance on here?
>>Mike is not a troll.
>
> You are wrong. Mike Reid is a troll and is killfiled and ignored in
> most other groups. Only the fools here seem to feed him.
>
I disagree so you're plonked.

In article ,
   Christina Websell  wrote:

> "Steve" <9ste@zen.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:dnekc51emgu4f7ugeimpk56b388g7diuo2@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:27:40 +0100, "Christina Websell"
> >  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Mike.. . ."  wrote in message
> >>news:1jsbwio4we2rv$.f71v37eladfy.dlg@40tude.net...
> >>> Following up to Christina Websell
> >>>
> >>>> All the British wine I've tried is, as you say, totally crap. 
> >>>> Dreadful.
> >>>> I
> >>>> wouldn't even use it for cooking.
> >>>
> >>> I used the second bottle in a sauce rather than empty it down the sink
> >>
> >>A good use for it - it's certainly not fit to drink.
> >>
> >>Tina
> >
> > Why are you feeding the troll?

> Why are you being a nuisance on here?
> Mike is not a troll.

They're trying to be a nuisance because that's precisely what they want to
be and if they can stop a newsgroup functioning that's a real cause for
celebration. For some sad reason they seem to find it fun; you need a good
brain for real hacking which will rule some of them out of doing that, I
guess. Ignore them. Just that.

Jane

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Following up to Phil Cook 

>>Is this - memory shift going on here - like British sherry of the dear 
>>(and mercifully dead) long-ago?
> 
> Yes but I fear it still exists but that they can't call it sherry any
> more because thankfully the producers of the real stuff from Jerez

is "emva cream" (greek?) "sherry" still about? Cream sherry is very much
what real sherry isnt about (although they make it in spain for us) and
does nothing for the reputation of a great and subtle drink.
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Following up to Sacha 

> What is it called now so that we can avoid it?!

get a bottle of "La Ina" from Waitrose, they shift enough for it not to be
stale, put it in the fridge and try it instead of a G&T, supposed to be a
better precursor to food, but you know all this!
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On 29 Sep, 23:37, "Mike.. .  ." 
wrote:
> Thought I would try it. Pity they sell this as British wine is trying to
> gain a reputation
> "http://www.broadland-wineries.com/buywine.asp"
> I wonder how its made? Its totally crap BTW. Like a slightly off tasting
> cranberry juice, might suit people who only ever tasted very bad french
> wine (or no wine) as it lacks any tannin or acid and is therefore very
> soft. (8% alcohol). Awful, in case you missed that, even I will not drink
> it.

If you want a nice white, Chapel Down Bacchus (from Tenteden, Kent) is
lovely.

Richard

On 2009-10-05 23:20:48 +0100, Phil Cook  said:

> Sacha wrote:
> 
>> On 2009-10-05 22:17:44 +0100, Phil Cook  said:
>> 
>>> Sacha wrote:
> 
>>>> Is this - memory shift going on here - like British sherry of the dear
>>>> (and mercifully dead) long-ago?
>>> 
>>> Yes but I fear it still exists but that they can't call it sherry any
>>> more because thankfully the producers of the real stuff from Jerez did
>>> a "Champagne" and got a geographical origin restriction on the use of
>>> the word sherry.
>> 
>> What is it called now so that we can avoid it?!
> 
> British fortified wine.

Thank you!
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On 2009-10-06 10:12:50 +0100, "Mike.. .  ." 
 said:

> Following up to Sacha
> 
>> What is it called now so that we can avoid it?!
> 
> get a bottle of "La Ina" from Waitrose, they shift enough for it not to be
> stale, put it in the fridge and try it instead of a G&T, supposed to be a
> better precursor to food, but you know all this!

Which reminds me that I've promised some of my home made Limoncello to 
someone - must get round to that.  Ray is quite into a glass of Madeira 
as an aperitif but I'm not too keen on that.  A g&t on a hot day or a 
BM on a colder one is more my thing.
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On 2009-10-06 11:20:38 +0100, June Hughes 
 said:

> In message , Mike.. .  . 
>  writes
>> Following up to Sacha
>> 
>>> What is it called now so that we can avoid it?!
>> 
>> get a bottle of "La Ina" from Waitrose, they shift enough for it not to be
>> stale, put it in the fridge and try it instead of a G&T, supposed to be a
>> better precursor to food, but you know all this!
> 
> I'll second that but nothing beats Tio Pepe IMNSHO.

We used to get San Patricio at one time but never seem to see it now.
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In message , Sacha 
 writes
>On 2009-10-06 11:20:38 +0100, June Hughes 
> said:
>
>> In message , Mike.. . . 
>> writes
>>> Following up to Sacha
>>>
>>>> What is it called now so that we can avoid it?!
>>>  get a bottle of "La Ina" from Waitrose, they shift enough for it 
>>>not to be
>>> stale, put it in the fridge and try it instead of a G&T, supposed to be a
>>> better precursor to food, but you know all this!
>>  I'll second that but nothing beats Tio Pepe IMNSHO.
>
>We used to get San Patricio at one time but never seem to see it now.

No.  Not even in Waitrose.
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In message , Sacha 
 writes
>On 2009-10-06 10:12:50 +0100, "Mike.. .  ." 
> said:
>
>> Following up to Sacha
>>
>>> What is it called now so that we can avoid it?!
>>  get a bottle of "La Ina" from Waitrose, they shift enough for it not 
>>to be
>> stale, put it in the fridge and try it instead of a G&T, supposed to be a
>> better precursor to food, but you know all this!
>
>Which reminds me that I've promised some of my home made Limoncello to 
>someone - must get round to that.  Ray is quite into a glass of Madeira 
>as an aperitif but I'm not too keen on that.  A g&t on a hot day or a 
>BM on a colder one is more my thing.

I haven't had a g&t for ages and must remedy that.  BM is OK without the 
vodka but I don't believe that is the point :)
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"June Hughes"  wrote in message 
news:Jm3c8bJgTyyKFwAd@theacct.demon.co.uk...
> In message <cg8cv06y1227$.1kg5a5gqszxc6.dlg@40tude.net>, Tim C. 
>  writes
>>On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:25:23 +0100, June Hughes wrote in post :
>><news:pW7UwkETsxyKFwX3@theacct.demon.co.uk> :
>>
>>>   I came across it the other day and found the sediment seems to have 
>>> disappeared.
>>
>>It probably crawled out and is now lurking in the cupboard ready to 
>>pounce.
>
> Probably.  I had never seen sediment in such big pieces, especially as it 
> is a white wine.  The thing that worries me is the probability that it has 
> somehow dissolved in the wine.
> -- 
Were they chrystalline in appearance?  May have been tartrates which are 
often seen in white wines.
Graham

Following up to June Hughes 

>>get a bottle of "La Ina" from Waitrose, they shift enough for it not to be
>>stale, put it in the fridge and try it instead of a G&T, supposed to be a
>>better precursor to food, but you know all this!
> 
> I'll second that but nothing beats Tio Pepe IMNSHO.

we prefer manzanilla to fino, but its personal choice innit?
I remember sitting next to the Guadalquivir river watching the ferry
captain finish off a bottle between shifts (halves). Have you tried palo
cortado?  Manzannila Its just the normal drink there, as beer is here and
wine is in la belle france. Its very salty when drunk there  (the vineyards
face the Atlantic wind) but that aspect does not seem to  travel well.
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Following up to June Hughes 

> BM is OK without the 
> vodka but I don't believe that is the point :)

I find it OK without the bloody.
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In message <nLHym.472844$Ta5.471570@newsfe15.iad>, graham 
 writes
>
>"June Hughes"  wrote in message
>news:Jm3c8bJgTyyKFwAd@theacct.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <cg8cv06y1227$.1kg5a5gqszxc6.dlg@40tude.net>, Tim C.
>>  writes
>>>On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:25:23 +0100, June Hughes wrote in post :
>>><news:pW7UwkETsxyKFwX3@theacct.demon.co.uk> :
>>>
>>>>   I came across it the other day and found the sediment seems to have
>>>> disappeared.
>>>
>>>It probably crawled out and is now lurking in the cupboard ready to
>>>pounce.
>>
>> Probably.  I had never seen sediment in such big pieces, especially as it
>> is a white wine.  The thing that worries me is the probability that it has
>> somehow dissolved in the wine.
>> --
>Were they chrystalline in appearance?  May have been tartrates which are
>often seen in white wines.
>Graham
>
>
No.  They looked like long shreds of tobacco.  I don't know what colour 
they were because the bottle is green.  There is no sediment (ie as in a 
bott of port) lying at the side of the bottle, which is kept lying down, 
as it were.
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In message <1cuw0bpgkmkn9.1esesbdailb3g$.dlg@40tude.net>, Mike.. . . 
 writes
>Following up to June Hughes
>
>>>get a bottle of "La Ina" from Waitrose, they shift enough for it not to be
>>>stale, put it in the fridge and try it instead of a G&T, supposed to be a
>>>better precursor to food, but you know all this!
>>
>> I'll second that but nothing beats Tio Pepe IMNSHO.
>
>we prefer manzanilla to fino, but its personal choice innit?
  Yes and it is lovely.  You recommended it to me a couple of years ago. 
Also slightly cheaper than Tio Pepe.

>I remember sitting next to the Guadalquivir river watching the ferry
>captain finish off a bottle between shifts (halves). Have you tried palo
>cortado?  Manzannila Its just the normal drink there, as beer is here and
>wine is in la belle france. Its very salty when drunk there  (the vineyards
>face the Atlantic wind) but that aspect does not seem to  travel well.

Sounds great.
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On 2009-10-06 13:49:50 +0100, June Hughes 
 said:

> In message , Sacha 
>  writes
>> On 2009-10-06 10:12:50 +0100, "Mike.. .  ." 
>>  said:
>> 
>>> Following up to Sacha
>>> 
>>>> What is it called now so that we can avoid it?!
>>>  get a bottle of "La Ina" from Waitrose, they shift enough for it not to be
>>> stale, put it in the fridge and try it instead of a G&T, supposed to be a
>>> better precursor to food, but you know all this!
>> 
>> Which reminds me that I've promised some of my home made Limoncello to 
>> someone - must get round to that.  Ray is quite into a glass of Madeira 
>> as an aperitif but I'm not too keen on that.  A g&t on a hot day or a 
>> BM on a colder one is more my thing.
> 
> I haven't had a g&t for ages and must remedy that.  BM is OK without 
> the vodka but I don't believe that is the point :)


No and it's not what it's called, either!  Then it's a VM.  ;-)  Ray 
always puts a drop of dry sherry into the BM he makes and it lifts it 
onto another level altogether.
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Following up to June Hughes 

> They looked like long shreds of tobacco.

it was "ropey" hence the meaning of "ropey". It will be off.
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In message , Sacha 
 writes
>On 2009-10-06 13:49:50 +0100, June Hughes 
> said:
>
>> In message , Sacha 
>> writes
>>> On 2009-10-06 10:12:50 +0100, "Mike.. .  ." 
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> Following up to Sacha
>>>>
>>>>> What is it called now so that we can avoid it?!
>>>>  get a bottle of "La Ina" from Waitrose, they shift enough for it not to be
>>>> stale, put it in the fridge and try it instead of a G&T, supposed to be a
>>>> better precursor to food, but you know all this!
>>>  Which reminds me that I've promised some of my home made Limoncello 
>>>to  someone - must get round to that.  Ray is quite into a glass of 
>>>Madeira  as an aperitif but I'm not too keen on that.  A g&t on a hot 
>>>day or a  BM on a colder one is more my thing.
>>  I haven't had a g&t for ages and must remedy that.  BM is OK without 
>>the vodka but I don't believe that is the point :)
>
>
>No and it's not what it's called, either!  Then it's a VM.  ;-)  Ray 
>always puts a drop of dry sherry into the BM he makes and it lifts it 
>onto another level altogether.

Ah!  Now I come to think of it, I believe you have told me that before 
and I have forgotten.  Sorry.  It's a good thing I don't drink it often 
:)
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In message <19mzlmgqtnlo5.1si3tz61pq28o$.dlg@40tude.net>, Mike.. .  . 
 writes
>Following up to June Hughes
>
>> They looked like long shreds of tobacco.
>
>it was "ropey" hence the meaning of "ropey". It will be off.

So why have they disappeared over a few years?  And where have they 
disappeared to?  Into the wine?  I may try opening it.  If it is off, it 
will be undrinkable.  I shall let you know.
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On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:12:30 +0100, Jane Gillett
 wrote:

>They're trying to be a nuisance because that's precisely what they want to
>be and if they can stop a newsgroup functioning that's a real cause for
>celebration.

I agree. The troll, Mike Reid's only intention is to disrupt this
group with his irrelevant rubbish. Unfortunately he is currently
succeeding because, unlike other groups he's tried his dross trolling
in, the idiots here keep feeding him. If they didn't, he'd go away
eventually. Other people on other newsgroups realise he's a troll and
ignore him, so why do people here find it so difficult?

"Mike.. . ."  ha scritto nel messaggio
> Following up to June Hughes
>
>> BM is OK without the
>> vodka but I don't believe that is the point :)
>
> I find it OK without the bloody.
> -- 
> Mike... .  .   .    .

Don't be silly!  That's what makes it health food.

On 2009-10-07 08:41:12 +0100, "Giusi"  said:

> 
> "Mike.. . ."  ha scritto nel messaggio
>> Following up to June Hughes
>> 
>>> BM is OK without the
>>> vodka but I don't believe that is the point :)
>> 
>> I find it OK without the bloody.
>> --
>> Mike... .  .   .    .
> 
> Don't be silly!  That's what makes it health food.

Definitely.  One of the 5 a day.  ;-)

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Following up to Giusi 

>> I find it OK without the bloody.
>> -- 
>> Mike... .  .   .    .
> 
> Don't be silly!  That's what makes it health food.

the slice of lime in a G&T does that!
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