Here's for the last of the allotment tomatoes... haven't been hearing much 
of the allotment lately.

http://www.judithgreenwood.com/thinkonit/21-tomato-salute/--

Giusi said 

"http://www.judithgreenwood.com/thinkonit/21-tomato-salute" works i think

alas my northern tomatoes are without merit, our cold climate suits us to
"going out for some time" heroically and sinking galleons not to mention
"sinking gallons" hey, i made a joke! But the growing of the tomato needs
sunshine and we are senza sole. No hay sol!

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> Giusi said
>
> "http://www.judithgreenwood.com/thinkonit/21-tomato-salute" works i think
>
> alas my northern tomatoes are without merit, our cold climate suits us to
> "going out for some time" heroically and sinking galleons not to mention
> "sinking gallons" hey, i made a joke! But the growing of the tomato needs
> sunshine and we are senza sole. No hay sol!
>
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Well that's just disturbing.  And those Netherlands ones are losers. 
Spagbol with bad pomodori?

Op Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:28:45 +0200  Giusi illuminated the masses with this:

> And those Netherlands ones are losers.

'scuse me? Please explain...

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Giusi said 

> And those Netherlands ones are losers. 

dutch tomato related products are the work of the devil

> Spagbol with bad pomodori?

there are cans and there are imports. I can use spanish trucked over at
some cost in quality or I can use cans of tuscan toms from Waitrose "ohhhh
sole mio...... dah dah dah dahhhhhhhhhhh"
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> Op Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:28:45 +0200  Giusi illuminated the masses with 
> this:
>
>> And those Netherlands ones are losers.
>
> 'scuse me? Please explain...
>
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I have eaten those imported Dutch tomatoes and they are bad.  One of the 
workmen must have thrown out a sandwich into my neighbors' garden and up 
came a plant with tomatoes exactly like those winter red balls.  Know what? 
Even after a hot and sunny Italian summer they tasted of nothing.

Giusi said 

> Even after a hot and sunny Italian summer they tasted of nothing.

probably "moneymaker" grown for crop size by the perfidious dutchman! They
should stick to tulips!
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Giusi wrote:
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>>Op Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:28:45 +0200  Giusi illuminated the masses with 
>>this:
>>
>>
>>>And those Netherlands ones are losers.
>>
>>'scuse me? Please explain...
>>
>>-- 
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> 
> 
> I have eaten those imported Dutch tomatoes and they are bad.  One of the 
> workmen must have thrown out a sandwich into my neighbors' garden and up 
> came a plant with tomatoes exactly like those winter red balls.  Know what? 
> Even after a hot and sunny Italian summer they tasted of nothing. 

Am I correct in thinking that the best tomatoes come from Italy? And 
that they are the plum variety?

Dave

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> Giusi wrote:
>> "Waldo Centini" <"waldocentini[NOSPAM]"@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio 
>> news:1pphqcxjkzxq6$.1v9s2efgc7srt.dlg@40tude.net...
>> 
>>>Op Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:28:45 +0200  Giusi illuminated the masses with 
>>>this:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And those Netherlands ones are losers.
>>>
>>>'scuse me? Please explain...
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>*** Waldo ***
>> 
>> I have eaten those imported Dutch tomatoes and they are bad.  One of the 
>> workmen must have thrown out a sandwich into my neighbors' garden and up 
>> came a plant with tomatoes exactly like those winter red balls.  Know what? 
>> Even after a hot and sunny Italian summer they tasted of nothing. 
> 
> Am I correct in thinking that the best tomatoes come from Italy? And 
> that they are the plum variety?
> 
> Dave

The best ones come from my garden, in pots along the south-facing side of
the house under the eaves. :-) 

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Dave said 

> Am I correct in thinking that the best tomatoes come from Italy? And 
> that they are the plum variety?

italy and spain. Not as good having travelled, but sun helps tomatoes.
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> The best ones come from my garden, in pots along the south-facing side of
> the house under the eaves. :-)

local is always good, but most especially for strawberries.
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Op Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:44:59 +0200  Tim C. illuminated the masses with
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> The best ones come from my garden

Not true; the best come, of course, from *our* garden.

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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:37:41 +0200, Waldo Centini wrote in post :
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> Op Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:44:59 +0200  Tim C. illuminated the masses with
> this:
> 
>> The best ones come from my garden
> 
> Not true; the best come, of course, from *our* garden.

you wanna fight about it?  

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Op Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:35:26 +0200  Tim C. illuminated the masses with
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>>> The best ones come from my garden
>> 
>> Not true; the best come, of course, from *our* garden.
> 
> you wanna fight about it?

Just step outside, dear Sir!

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Tim C. said 

>> Not true; the best come, of course, from *our* garden.
> 
> you wanna fight about it?

you could throw tomatoes at each other
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>>>Op Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:28:45 +0200  Giusi illuminated
>> Even after a hot and sunny Italian summer they tasted of nothing.
>
> Am I correct in thinking that the best tomatoes come from Italy? And that 
> they are the plum variety?
>
> Dave

Those are best for one purpose only-- making sauces.  There are many great 
tomatoes and each is good for something.  Right now my cherry tomatoes are 
incredible.

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>>Giusi wrote:
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>>>
>>>>Op Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:28:45 +0200  Giusi illuminated
>>>
>>>Even after a hot and sunny Italian summer they tasted of nothing.
>>
>>Am I correct in thinking that the best tomatoes come from Italy? And that 
>>they are the plum variety?
>>
>>Dave
> 
> 
> Those are best for one purpose only-- making sauces.  There are many great 
> tomatoes and each is good for something.
I'll get back to you on those as I learn.

Many thanks.

Dave
   Right now my cherry tomatoes are
> incredible.

I wish that I had time and energy to grow them in this awful British 
climate.

Though we can grow home tomatoes, I am looking at the long term for 
Italian cooking.

Dave

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>   Right now my cherry tomatoes are>> incredible.
>
> I wish that I had time and energy to grow them in this awful British 
> climate.
>
> Though we can grow home tomatoes, I am looking at the long term for 
> Italian cooking.
>
> Dave

Which is not all that much about great fresh tomatoes, but if you want sweet 
tomatoes, the surest type is the cherry or grape tomato, because their size 
allows them to ripen with less time and sun than larger ones.  Those are the 
ones the Pugliese can truck up here all winter.  They use polythene covers 
through the coldest which might help those in darker colder climes.

Dave said 

> I wish that I had time and energy to grow them in this awful British 
> climate.

is it so terrrible? I find the places with 40c heat far more intolerable
than a bit of rain. And plenty of crops thrive in our climate like broad
beans, especially if you cook them very young as they do in places like
spain.
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> because their size 
> allows them to ripen with less time and sun than larger ones.

ping! Thanks Guisi
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>> I wish that I had time and energy to grow them in this awful British
>> climate.
>
> is it so terrrible? I find the places with 40c heat far more intolerable
> than a bit of rain. And plenty of crops thrive in our climate like broad
> beans, especially if you cook them very young as they do in places like
> spain.
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For people who are sensitive to light it is a terrible climate.  I suppose 
that over the eons many of them have been weeded out since they don't thrive 
and succeed, but people who produce the right brain chemicals irregardless 
of light will never understand.

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>> I wish that I had time and energy to grow them in this awful British 
>> climate.
> 
> is it so terrrible?

It is for growing tomatoes.

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Giusi said 

> For people who are sensitive to light it is a terrible climate.  I suppose 
> that over the eons many of them have been weeded out since they don't thrive 
> and succeed, but people who produce the right brain chemicals irregardless 
> of light will never understand.

yes, Carols a bit like like that. I actually prefer clouds in the sky,
storms and snow to inescapable heat. But we are all different. Its probably
due to my descent from wild eyed, plaid wrapped highland warriors and
pillaging norseman , I may be overplaying this a bit?

Today there is mist rising from the ground, I love it like that.
"http://wwwfellwalk.co.uk/pict173.htm"
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>> is it so terrrible?
> 
> It is for growing tomatoes.

yes, i'm very much in two minds if its worth it, especially with the
blight. The ones ive been given from the allotment have not inspired, but
maybe Guisis cherries?
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>>> is it so terrrible?
>>
>> It is for growing tomatoes.
>
> yes, i'm very much in two minds if its worth it, especially with the
> blight. The ones ive been given from the allotment have not inspired, but
> maybe Guisis cherries?
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If you grow Sweet Millions along a fence or net I believe that will be as 
good as it gets in the UK.  They are occasionally too sweet and can taste as 
if you have sugared them, but as with all cherry tomatoes, cooking them 
alters that, so don't overcook.  Yesterday's recipe I blogged was cherry 
tomatoes with fresh mozzarella done in 15 minutes.

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> They are occasionally too sweet and can taste as 
> if you have sugared them, but as with all cherry tomatoes, cooking them 
> alters that, so don't overcook

i usually blanch and peel and core toms, could i get away without that, it
feels like peeling grapes!
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>
>> They are occasionally too sweet and can taste as  if you have sugared 
>> them, but as with all cherry tomatoes, cooking them
>> alters that, so don't overcook
>
> i usually blanch and peel and core toms, could i get away without that, it
> feels like peeling grapes!
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Never with the tiny ones.  If the skins bother you, put it through a 
foodmill. Takes 2 seconds.  The skins are a bit sturdier this time of year 
when the nights are cool, but they don't bother me because they are small 
and don't cook long enough to make those quill things.

Giusi said 

>> i usually blanch and peel and core toms, could i get away without that, it
>> feels like peeling grapes!
>> -- 
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> 
> Never with the tiny ones.  If the skins bother you, put it through a 
> foodmill. Takes 2 seconds

it should be fine then. I had a cold garlic gazpacho in cordoba with peeled
grapes in it, the peeling made quite a difference in that context.
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>>Tim C. said
>>
>>
>>>>is it so terrrible?
>>>
>>>It is for growing tomatoes.
>>
>>yes, i'm very much in two minds if its worth it, especially with the
>>blight. The ones ive been given from the allotment have not inspired, but
>>maybe Guisis cherries?
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> 
> 
> If you grow Sweet Millions along a fence or net I believe that will be as 
> good as it gets in the UK.  They are occasionally too sweet and can taste as 
> if you have sugared them, but as with all cherry tomatoes, cooking them 
> alters that, so don't overcook.  Yesterday's recipe I blogged was cherry 
> tomatoes with fresh mozzarella done in 15 minutes. 

Noted an printed

Dave