Dear All,

I'm interested in the psychology of the great chefs. And the mentality of 
the kitchen. Why the stress? Why 'the brigade'? Why all the spats? Is it 
macho? Where do women fit in? Is it changing? With lots of anecdotes about 
the atmosphere of the hotplate....Has anybody read anything about this?

Best wishes,

-- 

Richard

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from "Richard Johnson"  contains these words:

> Dear All,

> I'm interested in the psychology of the great chefs. And the mentality of 
> the kitchen. Why the stress? Why 'the brigade'? Why all the spats? 

   Try working in a professional/commercial kitchen. Long antisocial
hours, always on your feet, and most staff are on low pay. The period
when customers are being served, is  constant  pressure to deliver the
right thing in the right order on time, in very hot, steamy often noisy
conditions in a high-risk environment  (sharp tools, flames, boiling
liquids, floor spills). Timing is everything.   It's a complex team
effort and if any one person is too quick or slow ,gets careless or
doesn't pull their weight,  the end product can be ruined in which case
there will be instant repercussions from the customers. Chefs have to
give rapid loud orders to be heard above the clatter. It's a very
high-stress work environment where tempers often fray. 

    Janet.

In message , Richard Johnson 
 writes
>Dear All,
>
>I'm interested in the psychology of the great chefs. And the mentality of
>the kitchen. Why the stress? Why 'the brigade'? Why all the spats? Is it
>macho? Where do women fit in? Is it changing? With lots of anecdotes about
>the atmosphere of the hotplate....Has anybody read anything about this?
>
>Best wishes,
>
Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.  Also Waiter 
Rant by The Waiter (see also the waiter rant blog).

Have a look on Amazon.
-- 
June Hughes

June Hughes  wrote:

> In message , Richard Johnson
>  writes
> >Dear All,
> >
> >I'm interested in the psychology of the great chefs. And the mentality of
> >the kitchen. Why the stress? Why 'the brigade'? Why all the spats? Is it
> >macho? Where do women fit in? Is it changing? With lots of anecdotes about
> >the atmosphere of the hotplate....Has anybody read anything about this?
> >
> >Best wishes,
> >
> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.  Also Waiter
> Rant by The Waiter (see also the waiter rant blog).
> 
> Have a look on Amazon.

Totally OT, but now that you're here. :)

I noticed on Saturday that Cornelia Parker has an installation at the
V&A. Very effective, and stunningly placed. You can take or leave her
words on it (not quite sure about one vestige of the old 'empire'
knocking the breath out of another!) but it's striking- and immediately
distinctive. I didn't have a clue it was there, so it was quite a
pleasant surprise..

(I remember you mentioning her piece at Tate Modern- hence why I thought
I'd mention it.)

-- 
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www.davidhorne.net 
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the 
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about. 
Otherwise they should just shut up about it."  -Richard Dawkins

In message <1ilvnv3.1j8tq8815orw3qN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, "David Horne, 
_the_ chancellor (*)"  writes
>June Hughes  wrote:
>
>> In message , Richard Johnson
>>  writes
>> >Dear All,
>> >
>> >I'm interested in the psychology of the great chefs. And the mentality of
>> >the kitchen. Why the stress? Why 'the brigade'? Why all the spats? Is it
>> >macho? Where do women fit in? Is it changing? With lots of anecdotes about
>> >the atmosphere of the hotplate....Has anybody read anything about this?
>> >
>> >Best wishes,
>> >
>> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.  Also Waiter
>> Rant by The Waiter (see also the waiter rant blog).
>>
>> Have a look on Amazon.
>
>Totally OT, but now that you're here. :)
>
>I noticed on Saturday that Cornelia Parker has an installation at the
>V&A. Very effective, and stunningly placed. You can take or leave her
>words on it (not quite sure about one vestige of the old 'empire'
>knocking the breath out of another!) but it's striking- and immediately
>distinctive. I didn't have a clue it was there, so it was quite a
>pleasant surprise..
>
>(I remember you mentioning her piece at Tate Modern- hence why I thought
>I'd mention it.)
>
Thanks David.  A friend of ours is down from Stoke for the week and went 
their yesterday with this daughter and her friend.  Of course, he didn't 
mention CP but then he had no reason to do so.
-- 
June Hughes

June Hughes  wrote in
news:QG3$XhIoJYqIFwpT@theacct.demon.co.uk: 

> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.

One of my favourites. Very enjoyable to read (and on telly). Any good food 
books recently for my hols, June?

Cheers
Richard

On 18/08/08 13:20, in article DN-dnbiyLKSZxjTVnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@bt.com,
"Richard Johnson"  wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> I'm interested in the psychology of the great chefs. And the mentality of
> the kitchen. Why the stress? Why 'the brigade'? Why all the spats? Is it
> macho? Where do women fit in? Is it changing? With lots of anecdotes about
> the atmosphere of the hotplate....Has anybody read anything about this?

If your interested in the brigade system, try finding an Escoffier
biography.


-- 
Joe Kotroczo                                  kotroczo@mac.com

In message , Richard 
Dixon  writes
>June Hughes  wrote in
>news:QG3$XhIoJYqIFwpT@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>
>> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.
>
>One of my favourites. Very enjoyable to read (and on telly). Any good food
>books recently for my hols, June?
>
>Cheers
>Richard
I have bought but not yet read Jay Rayner's 'The Man who ate Everything' 
and am half-way through 'Waiter Rant' by The Waiter, who also has a blog 
called waiter-rant.  It is surprisingly good.

Non-fiction depends on your taste but I can highly recommend Haruki 
Murakami's 'South of the Border, West of the Sun', which I took on 
holiday just over two weeks ago.  (Kept it quiet because of the prat of 
a troll, who published someone's snail-mail address here last year when 
they went on holiday).  IMNSHO, Murakami is the best living author at 
present.

Also:

An Equal Musim - Vikrama Seth
Saturday - Ian McEwan
Restless - William Boyd
Do not Pass Go - Tim Moore (daft book about his travels round London to 
Monopoly-board destinations but fun and easy to read).
Anything by Carl Hiaasen - crime novels generally set in Florida, often 
with an ecological bent.

Alternatively, visit Oxfam or similar, buy a dozen books for next to 
nothing and leave them wherever you have stayed for someone else to 
enjoy:)

Have a great holiday, Richard.
-- 
June Hughes

In message , Richard 
Dixon  writes
>June Hughes  wrote in
>news:QG3$XhIoJYqIFwpT@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>
>> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.
>
>One of my favourites. Very enjoyable to read (and on telly). Any good food
>books recently for my hols, June?
>
>Cheers
>Richard

I have already replied to this post but have just remembered that I 
bought a Nintendo DS just before we went on holiday (I was probably the 
only person in the world who hadn't heard of them before then) and I 
love it. Perhaps you could also take one of those, Richard?
-- 
June Hughes

June Hughes wrote:
> In message , Richard 
> Dixon  writes
> 
>> June Hughes  wrote in
>> news:QG3$XhIoJYqIFwpT@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>>
>>> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.
>>
>>
>> One of my favourites. Very enjoyable to read (and on telly). Any good 
>> food
>> books recently for my hols, June?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Richard
> 
> 
> I have already replied to this post but have just remembered that I 
> bought a Nintendo DS just before we went on holiday (I was probably the 
> only person in the world who hadn't heard of them before then) and I 
> love it. 

I have the 2 g daughters up from Portsmouth at the moment and they have 
one each. I don't want to ask them what they are and what they do 
because of that funny look they give you for not knowing. What are they 
and what do they do?

A very embarrassed Dave turns face away  :-)

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:28:52 +0100, Dave 
wrote:

>June Hughes wrote:
>> In message , Richard 
>> Dixon  writes
>> 
>>> June Hughes  wrote in
>>> news:QG3$XhIoJYqIFwpT@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>>>
>>>> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.
>>>
>>>
>>> One of my favourites. Very enjoyable to read (and on telly). Any good 
>>> food
>>> books recently for my hols, June?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> I have already replied to this post but have just remembered that I 
>> bought a Nintendo DS just before we went on holiday (I was probably the 
>> only person in the world who hadn't heard of them before then) and I 
>> love it. 
>
>I have the 2 g daughters up from Portsmouth at the moment and they have 
>one each. I don't want to ask them what they are and what they do 
>because of that funny look they give you for not knowing. What are they 
>and what do they do?
>
>A very embarrassed Dave turns face away  :-)

They're (mainly) a games machine. It's not as good as the Sony PSP
though.

In message , Dave 
 writes
>June Hughes wrote:
>> In message , 
>>Richard  Dixon  writes
>>
>>> June Hughes  wrote in
>>> news:QG3$XhIoJYqIFwpT@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>>>
>>>> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.
>>>
>>>
>>> One of my favourites. Very enjoyable to read (and on telly). Any 
>>>good food
>>> books recently for my hols, June?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Richard
>>   I have already replied to this post but have just remembered that I 
>>bought a Nintendo DS just before we went on holiday (I was probably 
>>the  only person in the world who hadn't heard of them before then) 
>>and I love it.
>
>I have the 2 g daughters up from Portsmouth at the moment and they have 
>one each. I don't want to ask them what they are and what they do 
>because of that funny look they give you for not knowing. What are they 
>and what do they do?
>
Hand-held games machines similar to the old sonic the hedgehog machines 
only with a longer battery-life.  They have been advertised on TV 
recently but I only realised that after I had bought one.  Your 
grandchildren probably have games on it, such as Super Mario etc, but 
there are lots of 'grown up' games like one that claims to test the age 
of your brain:)  Great fun if you don't take them too seriously.
-- 
June Hughes

June Hughes wrote:

> In message , Dave 
>  writes
> 
>> June Hughes wrote:
>>
>>> In message , 
>>> Richard  Dixon  writes
>>>
>>>> June Hughes  wrote in
>>>> news:QG3$XhIoJYqIFwpT@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>>>>
>>>>> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One of my favourites. Very enjoyable to read (and on telly). Any 
>>>> good food
>>>> books recently for my hols, June?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Richard
>>>
>>>   I have already replied to this post but have just remembered that I 
>>> bought a Nintendo DS just before we went on holiday (I was probably 
>>> the  only person in the world who hadn't heard of them before then) 
>>> and I love it.
>>
>>
>> I have the 2 g daughters up from Portsmouth at the moment and they 
>> have one each. I don't want to ask them what they are and what they do 
>> because of that funny look they give you for not knowing. What are 
>> they and what do they do?
>>
> Hand-held games machines similar to the old sonic the hedgehog machines 
> only with a longer battery-life.  They have been advertised on TV 
> recently but I only realised that after I had bought one.  Your 
> grandchildren probably have games on it, such as Super Mario etc, but 
> there are lots of 'grown up' games like one that claims to test the age 
> of your brain:)  Great fun if you don't take them too seriously.

No thanks, I don't have the time for them, but thanks for the 
description though.

Dave

In message , Dave 
 writes
>June Hughes wrote:
>
>> In message , Dave 
>> writes
>>
>>> June Hughes wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message , 
>>>>Richard  Dixon  writes
>>>>
>>>>> June Hughes  wrote in
>>>>> news:QG3$XhIoJYqIFwpT@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my favourites. Very enjoyable to read (and on telly). Any 
>>>>>good food
>>>>> books recently for my hols, June?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>   I have already replied to this post but have just remembered that 
>>>>bought a Nintendo DS just before we went on holiday (I was probably 
>>>>the  only person in the world who hadn't heard of them before then) 
>>>>and I love it.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the 2 g daughters up from Portsmouth at the moment and they 
>>>have one each. I don't want to ask them what they are and what they 
>>>do  because of that funny look they give you for not knowing. What 
>>>are they and what do they do?
>>>
>> Hand-held games machines similar to the old sonic the hedgehog 
>>machines  only with a longer battery-life.  They have been advertised 
>>TV  recently but I only realised that after I had bought one.  Your 
>>grandchildren probably have games on it, such as Super Mario etc, but 
>>there are lots of 'grown up' games like one that claims to test the 
>>age  of your brain:)  Great fun if you don't take them too seriously.
>
>No thanks, I don't have the time for them, but thanks for the 
>description though.
>
>Dave
I thought you were retired?  IIRC, you are younger than me.  Everyone 
has time for a little fun in their lives.
-- 
June Hughes

June Hughes wrote:
> In message , Dave 
>  writes
> 
>> June Hughes wrote:
>>
>>> In message , Dave 
>>>  writes
>>>
>>>> June Hughes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In message , 
>>>>> Richard  Dixon  writes
>>>>>
>>>>>> June Hughes  wrote in
>>>>>> news:QG3$XhIoJYqIFwpT@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of my favourites. Very enjoyable to read (and on telly). Any 
>>>>>> good food
>>>>>> books recently for my hols, June?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   I have already replied to this post but have just remembered that 
>>>>> bought a Nintendo DS just before we went on holiday (I was probably 
>>>>> the  only person in the world who hadn't heard of them before then) 
>>>>> and I love it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have the 2 g daughters up from Portsmouth at the moment and they 
>>>> have one each. I don't want to ask them what they are and what they 
>>>> do  because of that funny look they give you for not knowing. What 
>>>> are they and what do they do?
>>>>
>>> Hand-held games machines similar to the old sonic the hedgehog 
>>> machines  only with a longer battery-life.  They have been advertised 
>>> TV  recently but I only realised that after I had bought one.  Your 
>>> grandchildren probably have games on it, such as Super Mario etc, but 
>>> there are lots of 'grown up' games like one that claims to test the 
>>> age  of your brain:)  Great fun if you don't take them too seriously.
>>
>>
>> No thanks, I don't have the time for them, but thanks for the 
>> description though.
>>
>> Dave
> 
> I thought you were retired?

I am, permanently now  :-)
I tried 2 part time jobs, but they were sending me to drink, so I packed 
them in.
> IIRC, you are younger than me.  Everyone 
> has time for a little fun in their lives.

Oh I get my fun all right. I can chat on my radios and meet up with lots 
of very knowledgeable people at my local real ale pub. I have a regular 
drinking companion at lunch time and we are both quick whith the brain 
and take the mick out of each other. I watch very little TV so my mind 
is always on the go.
I have never been a games person all my life. Technology is what I am 
most interested in.
I have got to go and sort out my day trip to Portsmouth on Sunday now 
And my trip to OLdham in the morning to teach our son how to lay flags. 
I'll be glad to get the 2 g children back with their mother after having 
them since 2 weeks ago yesterday. They have just gone out of the front 
door arguing about the one remaining foam ball they have between them, 
the other has been thrown into a hedge and can't be seen.

Dave

June Hughes  wrote in
news:KbSpAwB+HnqIFwaj@theacct.demon.co.uk: 

> I have bought but not yet read Jay Rayner's 'The Man who ate
> Everything' and am half-way through 'Waiter Rant' by The Waiter, who
> also has a blog called waiter-rant.  It is surprisingly good.

Two to note !! I have to admit being diverted from Matthew Fort's Eating Up 
Italy (which I thought I'd lost for 2 months) by the biography of Brian 
Clough!!

> Have a great holiday, Richard.

Thanks June - I was recommended dourada (golden bream) and cherne (white 
snapper) by a colleague but only managed the former. Very nice custard 
tarts, obviously. My father is a huge fan of them but had no idea it's 
practically a national dessert in Portugal.

Cheers
Richard

June Hughes  wrote in
news:4r4lsmDVQnqIFw+$@theacct.demon.co.uk: 

> I have already replied to this post but have just remembered that I 
> bought a Nintendo DS just before we went on holiday (I was probably
> the only person in the world who hadn't heard of them before then) and
> I love it. Perhaps you could also take one of those, Richard?

I took a Sony PSP :)

Richard

Corey Richardson  wrote in
news:5n3pa4hhvm6t9hps15vqonv6oe304kdla6@4ax.com: 


> They're (mainly) a games machine. It's not as good as the Sony PSP
> though.

In your humble opinion, of course! I don't have one but my brother-in-law 
(whose opinion I respect seeing as he's been massively successful in the 
games industry) reckons the DS is streets ahead of the PSP: not necessarily 
in terms of hardware but the games for it.

Richard

June Hughes  wrote in 
news:IM5Z1WAUcQrIFwCb@theacct.demon.co.uk:

> Great fun if you don't take them too seriously.

A few good warning for anyone buying them. My 4 1/2 year old nephew has his 
head buried in his DS. Mind you, if it keeps him quiet....

Richard

Richard Dixon wrote:
> June Hughes  wrote in
> news:IM5Z1WAUcQrIFwCb@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>
>> Great fun if you don't take them too seriously.
>
> A few good warning for anyone buying them. My 4 1/2 year old nephew
> has his head buried in his DS. Mind you, if it keeps him quiet....

It was top of my Grandson's Christmas list. We bought him one but his Mummy 
restricts the time he spends on it.
-- 
Real friendship is shown in times of trouble;
prosperity is full of friends.
* Euripedes

"Ophelia" <Ophelia@nix,co.uk> wrote in
news:g9842n$gda$2@registered.motzarella.org: 

> It was top of my Grandson's Christmas list. We bought him one but his
> Mummy restricts the time he spends on it.

I'm not sure if my sister does on nephew's one. But it can always be 
removed as punishment !!

Richard

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:24:18 GMT, Richard Dixon 
wrote:

>Corey Richardson  wrote in
>news:5n3pa4hhvm6t9hps15vqonv6oe304kdla6@4ax.com: 
>
>
>> They're (mainly) a games machine. It's not as good as the Sony PSP
>> though.
>
>In your humble opinion, of course! 

Of course in my humble opinion! I do own both though.

>I don't have one but my brother-in-law 
>(whose opinion I respect seeing as he's been massively successful in the 
>games industry) reckons the DS is streets ahead of the PSP: not necessarily 
>in terms of hardware but the games for it.

The DS games are fun, but don't have the depth of the PSP games.

On Aug 18, 5:20 pm, June Hughes 
wrote:
> In message <1ilvnv3.1j8tq8815orw3qN%d4g...@yahoo.co.uk>, "David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)"  writes
>
> >June Hughes  wrote:
>
> >> In message , Richard Johnson
> >>  writes
> >> >Dear All,
>
> >> >I'm interested in the psychology of the great chefs. And the mentality of
> >> >the kitchen. Why the stress? Why 'the brigade'? Why all the spats? Is it
> >> >macho? Where do women fit in? Is it changing? With lots of anecdotes about
> >> >the atmosphere of the hotplate....Has anybody read anything about this?
>
> >> >Best wishes,
>
> >> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.  Also Waiter
> >> Rant by The Waiter (see also the waiter rant blog).
>
> >> Have a look on Amazon.
>
> >Totally OT, but now that you're here. :)
>
> >I noticed on Saturday that Cornelia Parker has an installation at the
> >V&A. Very effective, and stunningly placed. You can take or leave her
> >words on it (not quite sure about one vestige of the old 'empire'
> >knocking the breath out of another!) but it's striking- and immediately
> >distinctive. I didn't have a clue it was there, so it was quite a
> >pleasant surprise..
>
> >(I remember you mentioning her piece at Tate Modern- hence why I thought
> >I'd mention it.)
>
> Thanks David.  A friend of ours is down from Stoke for the week and went
> their yesterday with this daughter and her friend.  Of course, he didn't
> mention CP but then he had no reason to do so.

That's probably because I'm not as well known down those parts as I am
up here ;-)

"Richard Dixon"  ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:Xns9B09EC39899E4rdngemailyahoocouk@69.16.176.253...
> "Ophelia" <Ophelia@nix,co.uk> wrote in
> news:g9842n$gda$2@registered.motzarella.org:
>
>> It was top of my Grandson's Christmas list. We bought him one but his
>> Mummy restricts the time he spends on it.
>
> I'm not sure if my sister does on nephew's one. But it can always be
> removed as punishment !!
>
> Richard

NO ONE restricts my access to my DS.  It can be a bit hard on the hands, 
though.

Giusi wrote:
> "Richard Dixon"  ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:Xns9B09EC39899E4rdngemailyahoocouk@69.16.176.253...
>> "Ophelia" <Ophelia@nix,co.uk> wrote in
>> news:g9842n$gda$2@registered.motzarella.org:
>>
>>> It was top of my Grandson's Christmas list. We bought him one but
>>> his Mummy restricts the time he spends on it.
>>
>> I'm not sure if my sister does on nephew's one. But it can always be
>> removed as punishment !!
>>
>> Richard
>
> NO ONE restricts my access to my DS.  It can be a bit hard on the
> hands, though.

<G> but that would depend on whether you had been a good girl eh?

-- 
Real friendship is shown in times of trouble;
prosperity is full of friends.
* Euripedes

In message 
, CP 
 writes
>On Aug 18, 5:20 pm, June Hughes 
>wrote:
>> In message <1ilvnv3.1j8tq8815orw3qN%d4g...@yahoo.co.uk>, "David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)"  writes
>>
>> >June Hughes  wrote:
>>
>> >> In message , Richard Johnson
>> >>  writes
>> >> >Dear All,
>>
>> >> >I'm interested in the psychology of the great chefs. And the mentality of
>> >> >the kitchen. Why the stress? Why 'the brigade'? Why all the spats? Is it
>> >> >macho? Where do women fit in? Is it changing? With lots of 
>> >> >anecdotes about
>> >> >the atmosphere of the hotplate....Has anybody read anything about this?
>>
>> >> >Best wishes,
>>
>> >> Try Kitchen Confidential (Anthony Bourdain) for starters.  Also Waiter
>> >> Rant by The Waiter (see also the waiter rant blog).
>>
>> >> Have a look on Amazon.
>>
>> >Totally OT, but now that you're here. :)
>>
>> >I noticed on Saturday that Cornelia Parker has an installation at the
>> >V&A. Very effective, and stunningly placed. You can take or leave her
>> >words on it (not quite sure about one vestige of the old 'empire'
>> >knocking the breath out of another!) but it's striking- and immediately
>> >distinctive. I didn't have a clue it was there, so it was quite a
>> >pleasant surprise..
>>
>> >(I remember you mentioning her piece at Tate Modern- hence why I thought
>> >I'd mention it.)
>>
>> Thanks David.  A friend of ours is down from Stoke for the week and went
>> their yesterday with this daughter and her friend.  Of course, he didn't
>> mention CP but then he had no reason to do so.
>
>That's probably because I'm not as well known down those parts as I am
>up here ;-)

Your name crossed my mind as I wrote wot I did.
-- 
June Hughes

Corey Richardson  wrote in
news:ahugb49g1bt67e12r3qetk5885m4vorvqc@4ax.com: 


>>I don't have one but my brother-in-law 
>>(whose opinion I respect seeing as he's been massively successful in
>>the games industry) reckons the DS is streets ahead of the PSP: not
>>necessarily in terms of hardware but the games for it.
> 
> The DS games are fun, but don't have the depth of the PSP games.

I see - I have a PSP but only seem to play golf games on it. I'm still 
waiting for a half-decent cricket game.

Masterchef 2008 for the PSP? Not sure what that would entail...

Richard

In message , Richard 
Dixon  writes
>Corey Richardson  wrote in
>news:ahugb49g1bt67e12r3qetk5885m4vorvqc@4ax.com:
>
>
>>>I don't have one but my brother-in-law
>>>(whose opinion I respect seeing as he's been massively successful in
>>>the games industry) reckons the DS is streets ahead of the PSP: not
>>>necessarily in terms of hardware but the games for it.
>>
>> The DS games are fun, but don't have the depth of the PSP games.
>
>I see - I have a PSP but only seem to play golf games on it. I'm still
>waiting for a half-decent cricket game.
>
>Masterchef 2008 for the PSP? Not sure what that would entail...
>
I didn't see the post before yours, Richard but we have both the PS and 
the DS.  The thing about the DS is that you don't need a television 
screen to play, so it is portable and completely hand-held.  I would 
like a Wii but like with the DS, I wouldn't play adventure games etc.
-- 
June Hughes

June Hughes  wrote in 
news:zrGnM1A9vnuIFw+i@theacct.demon.co.uk:

>>I see - I have a PSP but only seem to play golf games on it. I'm still
>>waiting for a half-decent cricket game.
>>
>>Masterchef 2008 for the PSP? Not sure what that would entail...
>>
> I didn't see the post before yours, Richard but we have both the PS and 
> the DS.  The thing about the DS is that you don't need a television 
> screen to play, so it is portable and completely hand-held.  I would 
> like a Wii but like with the DS, I wouldn't play adventure games etc.

Ahh no I was talking about the PSP (i.e. PlayStation Portable) - has helped 
me wile away many a boring flight...

They need to introduce Wii Kitchen. Pancaking tossing races, vegetable 
chopping races...!

Richard

In message , Richard 
Dixon  writes
>June Hughes  wrote in
>news:zrGnM1A9vnuIFw+i@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>
>>>I see - I have a PSP but only seem to play golf games on it. I'm still
>>>waiting for a half-decent cricket game.
>>>
>>>Masterchef 2008 for the PSP? Not sure what that would entail...
>>>
>> I didn't see the post before yours, Richard but we have both the PS and
>> the DS.  The thing about the DS is that you don't need a television
>> screen to play, so it is portable and completely hand-held.  I would
>> like a Wii but like with the DS, I wouldn't play adventure games etc.
>
>Ahh no I was talking about the PSP (i.e. PlayStation Portable) - has helped
>me wile away many a boring flight...
>
Oh right.  This is all new to me, although the blokes in our family have 
always had PS's and now have a PS3.  Don't really interest me, except 
for Bust-a-Move.
>They need to introduce Wii Kitchen. Pancaking tossing races, vegetable
>chopping races...!
>
<G>
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In message , Richard 
Dixon  writes
>June Hughes  wrote in
>news:zrGnM1A9vnuIFw+i@theacct.demon.co.uk:
>
>>>I see - I have a PSP but only seem to play golf games on it. I'm still
>>>waiting for a half-decent cricket game.
>>>
>>>Masterchef 2008 for the PSP? Not sure what that would entail...
>>>
>> I didn't see the post before yours, Richard but we have both the PS and
>> the DS.  The thing about the DS is that you don't need a television
>> screen to play, so it is portable and completely hand-held.  I would
>> like a Wii but like with the DS, I wouldn't play adventure games etc.
>
>Ahh no I was talking about the PSP (i.e. PlayStation Portable) - has helped
>me wile away many a boring flight...
>
>They need to introduce Wii Kitchen. Pancaking tossing races, vegetable
>chopping races...!
>
>Richard
Apparently, Jamie Oliver and Gordon Ramsay have both done a game for Wii 
and DS - out in Sept and Oct.  I bought the Cooking Guide and that is 
OK.  Some of the recipes are actually quite good.  (eg French Beans 
sauteed in garlic butter).
-- 
June Hughes

In article , Richard 
Dixon  writes

>Very nice custard
>tarts, obviously. My father is a huge fan of them but had no idea it's
>practically a national dessert in Portugal.

I used to pop round every Sunday morning to the Lisboa, a Portuguese 
patisserie in Golborne Road, near Notting Hill, for a coffee and their 
famous custard tarts.
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In article , Richard 
Dixon  writes

>Ahh no I was talking about the PSP (i.e. PlayStation Portable) - has helped
>me wile away many a boring flight...

I wish I'd brought my noise reduction headphones on my last flight - a 
toddler two rows in front of me went into a fit of screaming lasting 
half an hour after her mum, who we learned later was extremely nervous 
about some turbulence we were going through, was seated elsewhere on the 
plane.

I haven't the patience for computer games and when I visit one friend, 
who has all the kit, only play under duress. Her 14-year old son is a 
virtual ghost in his own home - he only comes out of his room for toilet 
breaks or to grab something from the fridge, then he immediately returns 
to his computer games. During school holidays I don't think he ever 
sleeps.

I visit them almost every other month, but until we all went on holiday 
together last week, I doubt I've seen him more than a few times over the 
past three years.
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In article <JjmpOJC86$uIFwYr@theacct.demon.co.uk>, June Hughes 
 writes

>Some of the recipes are actually quite good.  (eg French Beans sauteed 
>in garlic butter).

I could probably guess the recipe for that one, June! Or is it more 
complicated than it seems?
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Richard Dixon said 

> cherne (white 
> snapper) by a colleague but only managed the former.

ive not heard cherne described as white snapper.Only wreckfish or stone
bass, IIRC its a large sea bream.
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Mike ............ said 

> ive not heard cherne described as white snapper.Only wreckfish or stone
> bass, IIRC its a large sea bream.

no, thats urta.
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