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date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:53:45 +0000,    group: uk.food+drink.indian        back       
Muslim killings   
Q: What's the hardest part for a Muslim when killing his own daughter?

A: Suppressing the erection.
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:53:45 +0000   author:   Marty

Re: Muslim killings   
A far as I am concerned, this is behaviour likely to incite racial 
violence, leastways if I were a muslim I would feel justified in kicking 
your anus into your aorta.

I dont like political correctness whatsoever, but in this case, if you 
get proscuted for that remark, I wont be sorry.
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000   author:   The Natural Philosopher a@b.c

Re: Muslim killings   
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:

>A far as I am concerned, this is behaviour likely to incite racial 
>violence, leastways if I were a muslim I would feel justified in kicking 
>your anus into your aorta.
>
>I dont like political correctness whatsoever, but in this case, if you 
>get proscuted for that remark, I wont be sorry.

Fucking hell, have you ever heard of a joke?

Anyway, it's a pity you weren't a victim of cot death.
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:34:27 +0000   author:   Marty

Re: Muslim killings   
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:

>I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.

Isn't that just inciting violence?
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:36:47 +0000   author:   Marty

Re: Muslim killings   
"Marty"  wrote in message
news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
| On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
| wrote:
|
| >I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
|
| Isn't that just inciting violence?

Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately it's 
backfired upon yourself.

I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate group, 
if such a thing exists...
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000   author:   Kr?ft?? Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk

Re: Muslim killings   
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000, "Kráftéé" <Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:

>"Marty"  wrote in message
>news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
>| On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
>| wrote:
>|
>| >I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
>|
>| Isn't that just inciting violence?
>
>Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately it's 
>backfired upon yourself.
>
>I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate group, 
>if such a thing exists...

Why did God make black people black?

So we only have to put up with seeing them when it's daytime!
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:02:39 +0000   author:   Marty

Re: Muslim killings   
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000, "Kráftéé" <Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:

>"Marty"  wrote in message
>news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
>| On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
>| wrote:
>|
>| >I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
>|
>| Isn't that just inciting violence?
>
>Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately it's 
>backfired upon yourself.
>
>I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate group, 
>if such a thing exists...

Another PC idiot that doesn't understand what a joke is!
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:07:24 +0000   author:   Marty

Re: Muslim killings   
Marty wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:
> 
>> A far as I am concerned, this is behaviour likely to incite racial 
>> violence, leastways if I were a muslim I would feel justified in kicking 
>> your anus into your aorta.
>>
>> I dont like political correctness whatsoever, but in this case, if you 
>> get proscuted for that remark, I wont be sorry.
> 
> Fucking hell, have you ever heard of a joke?
> 

Yes, but a lot of people wouldn't find that funny.

> Anyway, it's a pity you weren't a victim of cot death.
> 
Perhaps.
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:22:50 +0000   author:   The Natural Philosopher a@b.c

Re: Muslim killings   
Marty wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000, "Kráftéé" <Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
> 
>> "Marty"  wrote in message
>> news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
>> | On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
>> | wrote:
>> |
>> | >I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
>> |
>> | Isn't that just inciting violence?
>>
>> Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately it's 
>> backfired upon yourself.
>>
>> I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate group, 
>> if such a thing exists...
> 
> Another PC idiot that doesn't understand what a joke is!
> 
Beginning to get the feeling that you are the only one who isn't?

Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking the laws 
of this country, however much you may disagree with them.
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:25:03 +0000   author:   The Natural Philosopher a@b.c

Re: Muslim killings   
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:25:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:

>Marty wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000, "Kráftéé" <Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> "Marty"  wrote in message
>>> news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
>>> | On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
>>> | wrote:
>>> |
>>> | >I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
>>> |
>>> | Isn't that just inciting violence?
>>>
>>> Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately it's 
>>> backfired upon yourself.
>>>
>>> I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate group, 
>>> if such a thing exists...
>> 
>> Another PC idiot that doesn't understand what a joke is!
>> 
>Beginning to get the feeling that you are the only one who isn't?
>
>Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking the laws 
>of this country, however much you may disagree with them.

Bollocks! It's only PC nutters who see a problem.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/did-you-hear-the-one-about-the-comic-who-was-jailed-for-a-joke-about-the-pope-632151.html

A Home Office spokeswoman said the new proposals were aimed at genuine cases of
incitement. "It's not about satire," she said. "No comedian has ever been
indicted for incitement to racial hatred."
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:30:59 +0000   author:   Marty

Re: Muslim killings   
Marty wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:25:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:
> 
>> Marty wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000, "Kráftéé" <Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Marty"  wrote in message
>>>> news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
>>>> | On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
>>>> | wrote:
>>>> |
>>>> | >I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
>>>> |
>>>> | Isn't that just inciting violence?
>>>>
>>>> Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately it's 
>>>> backfired upon yourself.
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate group, 
>>>> if such a thing exists...
>>> Another PC idiot that doesn't understand what a joke is!
>>>
>> Beginning to get the feeling that you are the only one who isn't?
>>
>> Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking the laws 
>> of this country, however much you may disagree with them.
> 
> Bollocks! It's only PC nutters who see a problem.
> 
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/did-you-hear-the-one-about-the-comic-who-was-jailed-for-a-joke-about-the-pope-632151.html
> 
> A Home Office spokeswoman said the new proposals were aimed at genuine cases of
> incitement. "It's not about satire," she said. "No comedian has ever been
> indicted for incitement to racial hatred."
> 
I dint think that was satirical.

Just filthy and offensive really.
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:48:02 +0000   author:   The Natural Philosopher a@b.c

Re: Muslim killings   
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:48:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:

>Marty wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:25:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:
>> 
>>> Marty wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000, "Kráftéé" <Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Marty"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
>>>>> | On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
>>>>> | wrote:
>>>>> |
>>>>> | >I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Isn't that just inciting violence?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately it's 
>>>>> backfired upon yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate group, 
>>>>> if such a thing exists...
>>>> Another PC idiot that doesn't understand what a joke is!
>>>>
>>> Beginning to get the feeling that you are the only one who isn't?
>>>
>>> Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking the laws 
>>> of this country, however much you may disagree with them.
>> 
>> Bollocks! It's only PC nutters who see a problem.
>> 
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/did-you-hear-the-one-about-the-comic-who-was-jailed-for-a-joke-about-the-pope-632151.html
>> 
>> A Home Office spokeswoman said the new proposals were aimed at genuine cases of
>> incitement. "It's not about satire," she said. "No comedian has ever been
>> indicted for incitement to racial hatred."
>> 
>I dint think that was satirical.
>
>Just filthy and offensive really.

I bet you find jokes about Jade Goody and the disabled hilarious though!
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:55:20 +0000   author:   Marty

Re: Muslim killings   
On 19/3/09 17:25, in article 1237483495.1053.2@proxy00.news.clara.net, "The
Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote:

> 
> Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking the laws
> of this country, however much you may disagree with them.
> 

Please would you be kind enough to stop cross-posting this.  Many thanks.

-- 
Sacha
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:57:26 +0000   author:   Sacha

Re: Muslim killings   
"Marty"  wrote in message
news:f705s4186nda1mcpim9pigbpcpj3reehol@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:25:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:
<<<snipped>>>
> >
> >Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking the laws
> >of this country, however much you may disagree with them.
>
> Bollocks! It's only PC nutters who see a problem.
>
>
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/did-you-hear-the-one-about-the-comic-who-was-jailed-for-a-joke-about-the-pope-632151.html
>
> A Home Office spokeswoman said the new proposals were aimed at genuine
cases of
> incitement. "It's not about satire," she said. "No comedian has ever been
> indicted for incitement to racial hatred."
>
So you think you're a comedian?  I think you sound more like a bigoted
half-wit.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot

Ignorance causes intolerance.  Racism causes hate.  Which one describes you
best?
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:57:30 GMT   author:   BigWallop

Re: Muslim killings   
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:57:26 +0000, Sacha  wrote:

>On 19/3/09 17:25, in article 1237483495.1053.2@proxy00.news.clara.net, "The
>Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote:
>
>> 
>> Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking the laws
>> of this country, however much you may disagree with them.
>> 
>
>Please would you be kind enough to stop cross-posting this.

No.
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:08:00 +0000   author:   Marty

Re: Muslim killings   
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:57:30 GMT, "BigWallop" 
wrote:

>
>"Marty"  wrote in message
>news:f705s4186nda1mcpim9pigbpcpj3reehol@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:25:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:
><<<snipped>>>
>> >
>> >Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking the laws
>> >of this country, however much you may disagree with them.
>>
>> Bollocks! It's only PC nutters who see a problem.
>>
>>
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/did-you-hear-the-one-about-the-comic-who-was-jailed-for-a-joke-about-the-pope-632151.html
>>
>> A Home Office spokeswoman said the new proposals were aimed at genuine
>cases of
>> incitement. "It's not about satire," she said. "No comedian has ever been
>> indicted for incitement to racial hatred."
>>
>So you think you're a comedian?  I think you sound more like a bigoted
>half-wit.
>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
>
>Ignorance causes intolerance.  Racism causes hate.  Which one describes you
>best?

PMSL! Have you ever thought about becoming a comedian yourself?
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:10:07 +0000   author:   Marty

Re: Muslim killings........................ Forwarded to domain controller for account termination   
"Marty"  wrote in message 
news:shq4s4ds7snfdjsk4a8flpc0qp2ddtq5t0@4ax.com...
> Q: What's the hardest part for a Muslim when killing his own daughter?
>
> A: Suppressing the erection.
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:50:53 -0000   author:   R

Re: Muslim killings........................ Forwarded to domain controller for account termination   
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:50:53 -0000, "R"  wrote:


I've reported myself too!
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:57:04 +0000   author:   Marty

Re: Muslim killings   
"BigWallop"  wrote in message
news:eIvwl.1020$OO7.76@text.news.virginmedia.com
| "Marty"  wrote in message
| news:f705s4186nda1mcpim9pigbpcpj3reehol@4ax.com...
| > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:25:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
| > <a@b.c> wrote: <<<snipped>>>
| > >
| > >Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking
| > >the laws of this country, however much you may disagree with
| > >them.
| >
| > Bollocks! It's only PC nutters who see a problem.
| >
| >
| 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/did-you-hear-the-one-about-the-comic-who-was-jailed-for-a-joke-about-the-pope-632151.html
| >
| > A Home Office spokeswoman said the new proposals were aimed at
| > genuine cases of incitement. "It's not about satire," she said.
| > "No comedian has ever been indicted for incitement to racial
| > hatred."
| >
| So you think you're a comedian?  I think you sound more like a
| bigoted half-wit.
| http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
|
| Ignorance causes intolerance.  Racism causes hate.  Which one
| describes you best?

If everybody just puts him into their blocked list he'll soon get 
bored
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:00:12 -0000   author:   Kr?ft?? Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk

Re: Muslim killings........................ Forwarded to domain controller for account termination   
Thus spake Marty:
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:50:53 -0000, "R"  wrote:
>
>
> I've reported myself too!



What for - being a dickhead? Go away & finish your homework then squeeze 
your spots
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:10:42 -0000   author:   Paul B

Re: Muslim killings   
"Marty"  wrote in message
news:shq4s4ds7snfdjsk4a8flpc0qp2ddtq5t0@4ax.com...
> Q: What's the hardest part for a Muslim when killing his own daughter?
>
> A: Suppressing the erection.
>
>
You live in Slough too?

Steve Terry
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:30:55 -0000   author:   Steve Terry

Re: Muslim killings........................ Forwarded to domain controller for account termination   
Marty wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:50:53 -0000, "R"  wrote:
>
>
> I've reported myself too!

Removed URB.

-- 
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:54:36 -0000   author:   Bully

Re: Muslim killings   
"The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message 
news:1237483495.1053.2@proxy00.news.clara.net...
> Marty wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000, "Kráftéé" <Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Marty"  wrote in message
>>> news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
>>> | On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
>>> | wrote:
>>> |
>>> | >I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
>>> |
>>> | Isn't that just inciting violence?
>>>
>>> Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately it's 
>>> backfired upon yourself.
>>>
>>> I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate group, if 
>>> such a thing exists...
>>
>> Another PC idiot that doesn't understand what a joke is!
>>
> Beginning to get the feeling that you are the only one who isn't?
>
> Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking the laws of 
> this country, however much you may disagree with them.

Laws don't apply if you post from alt.net - Altopia.
date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:02:28 -0000   author:   Mr Benn %%%@%.%%

Re: Muslim killings   
"The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message 
news:1237484875.24859.1@proxy02.news.clara.net...
> Marty wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:25:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Marty wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000, "Kráftéé" 
>>>> <Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Marty"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
>>>>> | On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
>>>>> | wrote:
>>>>> |
>>>>> | >I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Isn't that just inciting violence?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately it's 
>>>>> backfired upon yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate group, 
>>>>> if such a thing exists...
>>>> Another PC idiot that doesn't understand what a joke is!
>>>>
>>> Beginning to get the feeling that you are the only one who isn't?
>>>
>>> Be careful: free speech on usenet does not extend to breaking the laws 
>>> of this country, however much you may disagree with them.
>>
>> Bollocks! It's only PC nutters who see a problem.
>>
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/did-you-hear-the-one-about-the-comic-who-was-jailed-for-a-joke-about-the-pope-632151.html
>>
>> A Home Office spokeswoman said the new proposals were aimed at genuine 
>> cases of
>> incitement. "It's not about satire," she said. "No comedian has ever been
>> indicted for incitement to racial hatred."
>>
> I dint think that was satirical.
>
> Just filthy and offensive really.

I blame it on the school holidays.  Are they on holiday at the moment?
date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:03:22 -0000   author:   Mr Benn %%%@%.%%

Re: Muslim killings   
> Laws don't apply if you post from alt.net - Altopia.
>


Altopia ??  Is that anywhere near Skegness?

Dave
date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:55:45 -0000   author:   Dave

Re: Muslim killings   
"Dave"  wrote in message
news:gt2dneb6ZdEre17UnZ2dnUVZ8jeWnZ2d@bt.com
| > Laws don't apply if you post from alt.net - Altopia.
| >
|
|
| Altopia ??  Is that anywhere near Skegness?
|
| Dave

Well it used to be in Skegness, but burnt down under supsicious 
circumstances ;-)
date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:37:55 -0000   author:   Kr?ft?? Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk

Re: Muslim killings   
"Kráftéé" wrote:

> "Dave"  wrote in message
>
> | > Laws don't apply if you post from alt.net - Altopia.
> | >
> | Altopia ??  Is that anywhere near Skegness?
>
> Well it used to be in Skegness, but burnt down under supsicious
> circumstances ;-)

Altopia is well known for having been 'pro-abuse'. I've had my run-ins
with them in the past but I thought they'd finally cleaned up their act.
Has anyone traced this post to Altopia ?

Graham
date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:38:17 +0000   author:   Eeyore

Re: Muslim killings   
Marty wrote:
> 
> Another PC idiot that doesn't understand what a joke is!

A joke is funny. You may need to look that up in the dictionary.
date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:52:18 +0000   author:   Mark McIntyre

Re: Muslim killings   
Marty wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000, "Kráftéé"
> <Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Marty"  wrote in message
>> news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
>>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
>>> <a@b.c> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
>>>
>>> Isn't that just inciting violence?
>>
>> Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately
>> it's backfired upon yourself.
>>
>> I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate
>> group, if such a thing exists...
>
> Another PC idiot that doesn't understand what a joke is!

Your dribblings aren't funny.   Go away.
date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:47:15 -0000   author:   Steve Walker

Re: Muslim killings   
"Steve Walker"  wrote in message 
news:72sv6rFree6uU1@mid.individual.net...
> Marty wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:26 -0000, "Kráftéé"
>> <Kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> "Marty"  wrote in message
>>> news:r3t4s41t7eje49h4uam0cbrlmlhth0dr2f@4ax.com
>>>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:21:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
>>>> <a@b.c> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would feel justified in kicking your anus into your aorta.
>>>>
>>>> Isn't that just inciting violence?
>>>
>>> Well that's all you've been intending to do, unfortunately
>>> it's backfired upon yourself.
>>>
>>> I would suggest you take your dribblings to a more appropiate
>>> group, if such a thing exists...
>>
>> Another PC idiot that doesn't understand what a joke is!
>
> Your dribblings aren't funny.   Go away.
>yes, get knotted
date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:41:55 -0000   author:   malley jkbvgyu@@kbgyu.ku

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