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date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:17:30 GMT,
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Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.11.05
"The Nation", Pakistan:
At least six militants were killed in a US drone missile strike in Norak
village of North Waziristan region near the Afghan border, officials said on
Thursday. "It was a US drone attack which targeted a compound of a local
tribesman, Musharraf Gul, in Norak village, killing six militants and
wounding eight others," a senior security official in the area said. He said
two missiles were fired from a US drone at 1:30 am. Another security
official confirmed the attack and said "Taliban rebels were using the
compound." "It is not clear if there was any high-value target," he said,
adding: "We also do not know yet the identity of the militants."
date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:17:30 GMT
author: Larry Hammick
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.11.05
In message <_CxIm.51583$PH1.28555@edtnps82>, Larry Hammick
writes
>"The Nation", Pakistan:
>
>At least six militants were killed in a US drone missile strike in Norak
>village of North Waziristan region near the Afghan border, officials said on
>Thursday. "It was a US drone attack which targeted a compound of a local
>tribesman, Musharraf Gul, in Norak village, killing six militants and
>wounding eight others," a senior security official in the area said. He said
>two missiles were fired from a US drone at 1:30 am. Another security
>official confirmed the attack and said "Taliban rebels were using the
>compound." "It is not clear if there was any high-value target," he said,
>adding: "We also do not know yet the identity of the militants."
This statement
>"We also do not know yet the identity of the militants."
Means we killed some identified civilians. If we can find a gun near
them they were "militants". Gun ownership in that part of the world is
about as high as the US.
This is a prima-facie case of murder by their own admission.
I wonder why so many locals hate the USA and are flocking to support the
Taliban?
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date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:24:45 +0000
author: Chris H
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.11.05
"Larry Hammick" wrote ...
> "The Nation", Pakistan:
>
> At least six militants were killed in a US drone missile strike in Norak
> village of North Waziristan region near the Afghan border, officials said
> on Thursday. "It was a US drone attack which targeted a compound of a
> local tribesman, Musharraf Gul, in Norak village, killing six militants
> and wounding eight others," a senior security official in the area said.
> He said two missiles were fired from a US drone at 1:30 am. Another
> security official confirmed the attack and said "Taliban rebels were using
> the compound." "It is not clear if there was any high-value target," he
> said, adding: "We also do not know yet the identity of the militants."
No idea who they killed, but definitely militants. Those who lap up
propaganda may be convinced but others aren't. The US said the same thing in
Iraq, while planting the evidence of such on murdered civilians.
date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:23:56 GMT
author: The Happy Hippy
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.11.05
In message <gByIm.1967$Ym4.1933@text.news.virginmedia.com>, The Happy
Hippy writes
>
>"Larry Hammick" wrote ...
>
>> "The Nation", Pakistan:
>>
>> At least six militants were killed in a US drone missile strike in Norak
>> village of North Waziristan region near the Afghan border, officials said
>> on Thursday. "It was a US drone attack which targeted a compound of a
>> local tribesman, Musharraf Gul, in Norak village, killing six militants
>> and wounding eight others," a senior security official in the area said.
>> He said two missiles were fired from a US drone at 1:30 am. Another
>> security official confirmed the attack and said "Taliban rebels were using
>> the compound." "It is not clear if there was any high-value target," he
>> said, adding: "We also do not know yet the identity of the militants."
>
>No idea who they killed, but definitely militants. Those who lap up
>propaganda may be convinced but others aren't.
Actually it is a prima-facie case of murder.
> The US said the same thing in
>Iraq, while planting the evidence of such on murdered civilians.
Yepp and they wonder why most of the world sees the USA as the bad guys.
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date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:45:59 +0000
author: Chris H
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.11.05
The Happy Hippy wrote:
> "Larry Hammick" wrote ...
>
>> "The Nation", Pakistan:
>>
>> At least six militants were killed in a US drone missile strike in Norak
>> village of North Waziristan region near the Afghan border, officials said
>> on Thursday. "It was a US drone attack which targeted a compound of a
>> local tribesman, Musharraf Gul, in Norak village, killing six militants
>> and wounding eight others," a senior security official in the area said.
>> He said two missiles were fired from a US drone at 1:30 am. Another
>> security official confirmed the attack and said "Taliban rebels were using
>> the compound." "It is not clear if there was any high-value target," he
>> said, adding: "We also do not know yet the identity of the militants."
>
> No idea who they killed, but definitely militants. Those who lap up
> propaganda may be convinced but others aren't. The US said the same thing in
> Iraq, while planting the evidence of such on murdered civilians.
>
>
Sure, as if the 100's blown up recently in Pakistan and elsewhere [that
you never seem to comment on] were all high value, legitimate targets.
date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:04:31 -0500
author: Jesse
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.11.05
"Chris H" wrote ...
> In message <gByIm.1967$Ym4.1933@text.news.virginmedia.com>, The Happy
> Hippy writes
>>
>>"Larry Hammick" wrote ...
>>
>>> "The Nation", Pakistan:
>>>
>>> At least six militants were killed in a US drone missile strike in Norak
>>> village of North Waziristan region near the Afghan border, officials
>>> said
>>> on Thursday. "It was a US drone attack which targeted a compound of a
>>> local tribesman, Musharraf Gul, in Norak village, killing six militants
>>> and wounding eight others," a senior security official in the area said.
>>> He said two missiles were fired from a US drone at 1:30 am. Another
>>> security official confirmed the attack and said "Taliban rebels were
>>> using
>>> the compound." "It is not clear if there was any high-value target," he
>>> said, adding: "We also do not know yet the identity of the militants."
>>
>>No idea who they killed, but definitely militants. Those who lap up
>>propaganda may be convinced but others aren't.
>
> Actually it is a prima-facie case of murder.
Certainly no due process involved, and with no idea who was there, no
apparent concern about innocent civilians; murder and a war crime.
It's easy to kill when bombing from 30,000 feet or sitting in an office
miles from the battleground. Easy to not care who you're killing.
>> The US said the same thing in
>>Iraq, while planting the evidence of such on murdered civilians.
>
> Yepp and they wonder why most of the world sees the USA as the bad guys.
I'm sure that happens in all wars which targets enemies amongst civilians,
after all every tagged 'dead gook' isn't by definition civilian, but the
propagandists seem to have a triple role here; firstly presenting the view
that the battle is going well, 'look how many we're killing', secondly
trying to spin it that only legitimate 'enemy' are being killed, and the
more subconscious third role to get us to see the reports as common place,
getting us used to not questioning the reports.
The Pentagon has a whole department for spreading propaganda of this style;
perhaps Larry should ask for payment if he's not getting any already as he's
doing a mighty fine job for them. Not that everyone will be fooled by such
incessent propaganda nor has an urge to dutifully propogate it.
date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:12:23 GMT
author: The Happy Hippy
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.11.05
In message <u3AIm.177$dc2.69@newsfe20.iad>, Jesse writes
>The Happy Hippy wrote:
>> "Larry Hammick" wrote ...
>>
>>> "The Nation", Pakistan:
>>>
>>> At least six militants were killed in a US drone missile strike in
>>>Norak village of North Waziristan region near the Afghan border,
>>>officials said on Thursday. "It was a US drone attack which targeted
>>>a compound of a local tribesman, Musharraf Gul, in Norak village,
>>>killing six militants and wounding eight others," a senior security
>>>official in the area said. He said two missiles were fired from a US
>>>drone at 1:30 am. Another security official confirmed the attack and
>>>said "Taliban rebels were using the compound." "It is not clear if
>>>there was any high-value target," he said, adding: "We also do not
>>>know yet the identity of the militants."
>> No idea who they killed, but definitely militants. Those who lap up
>>propaganda may be convinced but others aren't. The US said the same
>>thing in Iraq, while planting the evidence of such on murdered
>>civilians.
>Sure, as if the 100's blown up recently in Pakistan and elsewhere [that
>you never seem to comment on]
They were commented on.
>were all high value, legitimate targets.
No one has ever claimed that. However the US ALWAYS makes the claim that
ANYTHING they hit was a high value clear and present threat to the USA
Actually there was tow very unusual thins about the wedding party hit by
the terrorist bomb. In fact the wedding party where 17 were killed was
unique.
This is on two points
1 It is the ONLY wedding party that has been hit in the last 7 years
that was not hit by the US military.
2 The death toll was the lowest for a wedding party that has been
attacked. The US military usually kill around 50 at a time.
Go look at the stats.
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date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:09:15 +0000
author: Chris H
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