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date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:02:52 -0400,    group: uk.current-events.terrorism        back       
Rowdy negroes in London told to shut up   
No longer will their tribal beats disturb residents - I wonder if they'd 
have the nerve to issue the same infraction for muslims call to prayer ?
Surely there must be 1,000's of those going on every day.

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Churches ordered to 'sing softly'


Church ordered to keep noise down

Two churches in London have been ordered to keep their singing voices 
down after neighbours complained about their Sunday services.

Noise abatement notices came into force in All Nations Church in 
Kennington and Immanuel International Christian Centre in Walthamstow 
earlier this month.

Christian Legal Centre described the notices as a "heavy-handed approach".

But Lambeth Council and Waltham Forest Council said the orders were a 
last resort after mediation failed.

Worshippers fell

Immanuel International Christian Centre was served the notice in May by 
Waltham Forest Council after complaints from neighbours.

The church challenged the order but its appeal was rejected by the 
magistrates on 8 October. The council said the church faces a fine of 
£20,000 if it breaks the order.

Pastor Dunni Odetoyinbo said since the order their congregation had lost 
about 50 of up to 150 worshippers on Sundays.

"Because we have had to cut down the drums and sing very low and even 
without a keyboard, most of our members are not enjoying their worship 
service, especially our youth, and so they go elsewhere," she said.
The All Nations' Church
The church was the latest to be served a noise abatement notice

Waltham Forest Council said it had informed the church about complaints 
as far back as 2007, but the notice was issued as "a last resort" after 
attempts at amicable resolution failed.

Lambeth Council also said it served the notice to the All Nations Church 
last week as a last resort.

A statement said: "This is not a ban on playing music or singing.

"We received a number of complaints from local residents about the 
levels of amplified noise and have discussed the issues with the church, 
but unfortunately the problems have continued so we have had to serve a 
noise abatement notice."

Andrea Williams, director of the Christian Legal Centre, which 
represented Immanuel International Christian Centre at the court appeal, 
said: "This is a very distressing, a very heavy-handed way to deal with 
their worship.

"Really what ought to be happening is they ought to be visited by 
perhaps the local authority officials and a way worked through with 
regard to them existing in that community."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8316287.stm
date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:02:52 -0400   author:   Jesse

Re: Rowdy negroes in London told to shut up   
Jesse a écrit :
> No longer will their tribal beats disturb residents - I wonder if they'd 
> have the nerve to issue the same infraction for muslims call to prayer ?
> Surely there must be 1,000's of those going on every day.
> 
> ````````````````````````````````````
> 
> 
> 
> Churches ordered to 'sing softly'
> 
> 
> Church ordered to keep noise down
> 
> Two churches in London have been ordered to keep their singing voices 
> down after neighbours complained about their Sunday services.
> 
> Noise abatement notices came into force in All Nations Church in 
> Kennington and Immanuel International Christian Centre in Walthamstow 
> earlier this month.
> 
> Christian Legal Centre described the notices as a "heavy-handed approach".
> 
> But Lambeth Council and Waltham Forest Council said the orders were a 
> last resort after mediation failed.
> 
> Worshippers fell
> 
> Immanuel International Christian Centre was served the notice in May by 
> Waltham Forest Council after complaints from neighbours.
> 
> The church challenged the order but its appeal was rejected by the 
> magistrates on 8 October. The council said the church faces a fine of 
> £20,000 if it breaks the order.
> 
> Pastor Dunni Odetoyinbo said since the order their congregation had lost 
> about 50 of up to 150 worshippers on Sundays.
> 
> "Because we have had to cut down the drums and sing very low and even 
> without a keyboard, most of our members are not enjoying their worship 
> service, especially our youth, and so they go elsewhere," she said.
> The All Nations' Church
> The church was the latest to be served a noise abatement notice
> 
> Waltham Forest Council said it had informed the church about complaints 
> as far back as 2007, but the notice was issued as "a last resort" after 
> attempts at amicable resolution failed.
> 
> Lambeth Council also said it served the notice to the All Nations Church 
> last week as a last resort.
> 
> A statement said: "This is not a ban on playing music or singing.
> 
> "We received a number of complaints from local residents about the 
> levels of amplified noise and have discussed the issues with the church, 
> but unfortunately the problems have continued so we have had to serve a 
> noise abatement notice."
> 
> Andrea Williams, director of the Christian Legal Centre, which 
> represented Immanuel International Christian Centre at the court appeal, 
> said: "This is a very distressing, a very heavy-handed way to deal with 
> their worship.
> 
> "Really what ought to be happening is they ought to be visited by 
> perhaps the local authority officials and a way worked through with 
> regard to them existing in that community."
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8316287.stm

* Does'nt concern uk/current-events.terrorism.
date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:32:01 +0200   author:   RLM

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