Doesn't look too terrible at the moment, going by places that have been hit 
already, but sometimes one direction gets away with it more than others.

It's reported to not be near the scale of the 2004 tsunami.


TWP

http://www.kauaiworld.com/articles/2009/09/29/breaking_news/doc4ac2663c452da250614038.txt

Sirens to sound at 10 a.m. if tsunami coming



September 29, 2009 9:55 AM HST


LIHU'E - If a destructive tsunami is heading towards Kaua'i and Hawai'i, 
Civil Defense sirens will sound across the island at 10 a.m., said Mark 
Marshall, Kaua'i Civil Defense administrator.

In message , TWP
 writes
>Doesn't look too terrible at the moment, going by places that have been hit
>already, but sometimes one direction gets away with it more than others.
>
>It's reported to not be near the scale of the 2004 tsunami.

I don't quite understand the point of this post.

IT is not relevant to UK terrorism.
Also every news channel reported it. What is so special about Fox
reporting it? Or is it actually newsworthy because Fox have actually
done a balanced news report?


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\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
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TWP wrote:
> http://www.kauaiworld.com/articles/2009/09/29/breaking_news/doc4ac2663c452da250614038.txt
> 
> Sirens to sound at 10 a.m. if tsunami coming

Then what ?
Haul ass to the nearest mountain top ?

In message <WIHwm.43409$j34.14270@newsfe01.iad>, Jesse 
writes
>TWP wrote:
>> http://www.kauaiworld.com/articles/2009/09/29/breaking_news/doc4ac266
>>3c452da250614038.txt
>>  Sirens to sound at 10 a.m. if tsunami coming
>
>Then what ?
>Haul ass to the nearest mountain top ?

Note that no matter what the subject Jesse manages to get some ass into
it somewhere....   The Boys at Gay Times must be really proud of him.

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\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
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"Chris H"  wrote in message 
news:Jzl0KIHC6wwKFAhL@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
> In message , TWP
>  writes
>>Doesn't look too terrible at the moment, going by places that have been 
>>hit
>>already, but sometimes one direction gets away with it more than others.
>>
>>It's reported to not be near the scale of the 2004 tsunami.
>
> I don't quite understand the point of this post.
>
> IT is not relevant to UK terrorism.
> Also every news channel reported it. What is so special about Fox
> reporting it? Or is it actually newsworthy because Fox have actually
> done a balanced news report?
>
>
> -- 
> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
>
>
>


Why do you care what I watch?!   I like Fox more than Sky because it 
concerns itself more with world events and actually has some personality. 
There's a monotone about Sky News' presenting that gets to you after a 
while.

The post was tagged "OT:"  You can filter out OT messages with message rule 
filters if you don't want to read them.

Be honest - did I really piss you off with my OT post or because I disagreed 
with you recently?   Don't take it personally.  It'd be really boring around 
here if we all agreed!


TWP

"Jesse"  wrote in message 
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> TWP wrote:
>> http://www.kauaiworld.com/articles/2009/09/29/breaking_news/doc4ac2663c452da250614038.txt
>>
>> Sirens to sound at 10 a.m. if tsunami coming
>
> Then what ?
> Haul ass to the nearest mountain top ?

If there's one handy...

I suppose the problem with tsunamis is that you don't know how bad they're 
going to be because the energy doesn't radiate evenly.  Some people could 
just get their feet wet, while others loose their homes, so getting up as 
high as you can is probably the best plan.

TWP

TWP wrote:
> "Chris H"  wrote in message 
> news:Jzl0KIHC6wwKFAhL@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>> In message , TWP
>>  writes
>>> Doesn't look too terrible at the moment, going by places that have been 
>>> hit
>>> already, but sometimes one direction gets away with it more than others.
>>>
>>> It's reported to not be near the scale of the 2004 tsunami.
>> I don't quite understand the point of this post.
>>
>> IT is not relevant to UK terrorism.
>> Also every news channel reported it. What is so special about Fox
>> reporting it? Or is it actually newsworthy because Fox have actually
>> done a balanced news report?
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>> \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
>> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Why do you care what I watch?!   I like Fox more than Sky because it 
> concerns itself more with world events and actually has some personality. 
> There's a monotone about Sky News' presenting that gets to you after a 
> while.
> 
> The post was tagged "OT:"  You can filter out OT messages with message rule 
> filters if you don't want to read them.
> 
> Be honest - did I really piss you off with my OT post or because I disagreed 
> with you recently?   Don't take it personally.  It'd be really boring around 
> here if we all agreed!
> 
> 
> TWP

Lol - Chrissy throws a hissy !

Be careful, Dippy & Wobin tend to follow lock step behind Chrissy, 
they're gonna try a gang bang if you don't start coming around to their 
views.

I think you are right about Fox having a bit of personality.
I'll watch about any damn thing, as long as it keeps my interest ,,, 
MSNBC & CNN here tend to hire bull dike lesbians & sissy boys in suits 
who just keep stammering about the same things, even if they expressed 
views I agree with theres no way I would watch them on a regular basis.

Fox, on the other hands, their news babes are almost all hot, and the 
guys are pretty entertaining - Probably why they are, by far, rated #1.

Bleeding heart liberalism has such a lock in the UK, I'm not at all 
surprised that some find it refreshing to view something else for a 
change - I'm sure, without a doubt, that everyone here watches it, but 
you are the only one with the gnads to admit to it.

"Jesse"  wrote in message 
news:IZlym.472622$Ta5.111311@newsfe15.iad...
> TWP wrote:
>> "Chris H"  wrote in message 
>> news:Jzl0KIHC6wwKFAhL@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>>> In message , TWP
>>>  writes
>>>> Doesn't look too terrible at the moment, going by places that have been 
>>>> hit
>>>> already, but sometimes one direction gets away with it more than 
>>>> others.
>>>>
>>>> It's reported to not be near the scale of the 2004 tsunami.
>>> I don't quite understand the point of this post.
>>>
>>> IT is not relevant to UK terrorism.
>>> Also every news channel reported it. What is so special about Fox
>>> reporting it? Or is it actually newsworthy because Fox have actually
>>> done a balanced news report?
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>>> \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
>>> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why do you care what I watch?!   I like Fox more than Sky because it 
>> concerns itself more with world events and actually has some personality. 
>> There's a monotone about Sky News' presenting that gets to you after a 
>> while.
>>
>> The post was tagged "OT:"  You can filter out OT messages with message 
>> rule filters if you don't want to read them.
>>
>> Be honest - did I really piss you off with my OT post or because I 
>> disagreed with you recently?   Don't take it personally.  It'd be really 
>> boring around here if we all agreed!
>>
>>
>> TWP
>
> Lol - Chrissy throws a hissy !
>
> Be careful, Dippy & Wobin tend to follow lock step behind Chrissy, they're 
> gonna try a gang bang if you don't start coming around to their views.


Nah!  Technically I own this group anyway - I was the first poster to 
uk-ce-t!   I even invented the secret handshake! :-)   (We also have a 
secret milkshake)


TWP

TWP wrote:
> "Jesse"  wrote in message 
> news:IZlym.472622$Ta5.111311@newsfe15.iad...
>> TWP wrote:
>>> "Chris H"  wrote in message 
>>> news:Jzl0KIHC6wwKFAhL@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>>>> In message , TWP
>>>>  writes
>>>>> Doesn't look too terrible at the moment, going by places that have been 
>>>>> hit
>>>>> already, but sometimes one direction gets away with it more than 
>>>>> others.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's reported to not be near the scale of the 2004 tsunami.
>>>> I don't quite understand the point of this post.
>>>>
>>>> IT is not relevant to UK terrorism.
>>>> Also every news channel reported it. What is so special about Fox
>>>> reporting it? Or is it actually newsworthy because Fox have actually
>>>> done a balanced news report?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>>>> \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
>>>> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why do you care what I watch?!   I like Fox more than Sky because it 
>>> concerns itself more with world events and actually has some personality. 
>>> There's a monotone about Sky News' presenting that gets to you after a 
>>> while.
>>>
>>> The post was tagged "OT:"  You can filter out OT messages with message 
>>> rule filters if you don't want to read them.
>>>
>>> Be honest - did I really piss you off with my OT post or because I 
>>> disagreed with you recently?   Don't take it personally.  It'd be really 
>>> boring around here if we all agreed!
>>>
>>>
>>> TWP
>> Lol - Chrissy throws a hissy !
>>
>> Be careful, Dippy & Wobin tend to follow lock step behind Chrissy, they're 
>> gonna try a gang bang if you don't start coming around to their views.
> 
> 
> Nah!  Technically I own this group anyway - I was the first poster to 
> uk-ce-t!   I even invented the secret handshake! :-)   (We also have a 
> secret milkshake)
> 
> 
> TWP

Well hell, you baffle them with logic, thats good enough for me.
You made a good point "it would be boring if we all agreed", and that is 
exactly what they are after.
They do 90%, at least, of their "debating" with themselves, basically 
tripping over themselves to agree with each other, and raising minor 
points of difference here and there, just to present what objective, 
open minded guys that they are.
Such charades are as easy to see through as a glass table, and deserve 
nothing but the contempt I give them, by refusing to even directly reply 
to the worst of them [Chris, and boot licking lackey Chatnoir, at this 
point].

Yeah you've been here for a while, so have I.
I think I started posting in late 2002 or so.
Not many Mericans left here, I wonder whatever happened to Oak, I think 
he must have been felled.
He is still, by far, the all time leading poster here, as far as post 
counts go with 13,540 ,,, Though #2 Dippy, at 9,545 as we speak, will 
doubtlessly pass him in the near future, unless ill fortune befalls his 
ugly ass too.

You are at #5 at 6,298, and I bring up the rear of all time top 10 at 4,614.

"Jesse"  wrote in message 
news:Ppyym.57940$944.21702@newsfe09.iad...

>
> Well hell, you baffle them with logic, thats good enough for me.
> You made a good point "it would be boring if we all agreed", and that is 
> exactly what they are after.
> They do 90%, at least, of their "debating" with themselves, basically 
> tripping over themselves to agree with each other, and raising minor 
> points of difference here and there, just to present what objective, open 
> minded guys that they are.
> Such charades are as easy to see through as a glass table, and deserve 
> nothing but the contempt I give them, by refusing to even directly reply 
> to the worst of them [Chris, and boot licking lackey Chatnoir, at this 
> point].

Most people who have ever posted here have been OK with me even when they've 
disagreed with me.  You invite a few sparks to fly when you disagree with 
someone's basic beliefs, obviously, so sometimes people get a bit pissed 
with you for a while.  It's to be expected, and I think/hope most people 
here are able to get over it pretty quickly.  A small number of posters in 
the past just wanted trouble of course, but you get that sort of thing 
wherever you go.


>
> Yeah you've been here for a while, so have I.

I've been around for about 12 years (not here obviously!)
Wow!.........


> I think I started posting in late 2002 or so.
> Not many Mericans left here, I wonder whatever happened to Oak, I think he 
> must have been felled.

I wondered that too.  He was just suddenly gone.  Never appeared again.

I think one person has died that I've known on the net since I've been on 
it, and I heard of at least another dying just as I got on.  It maybe wasn't 
Oak's fate, but it's going to happen to some of the people we know in places 
like this.  When it does they'll just vanish (unless they've put in their 
will - "announce my death on uk-ce-t so I don't look like I've been beaten 
by TWP's superior debating and run off!").




> He is still, by far, the all time leading poster here, as far as post 
> counts go with 13,540 ,,, Though #2 Dippy, at 9,545 as we speak, will 
> doubtlessly pass him in the near future, unless ill fortune befalls his 
> ugly ass too.
>
> You are at #5 at 6,298, and I bring up the rear of all time top 10 at 
> 4,614.

I didn't think I'd posted that often! :-)


TWP

6,299

TWP wrote:
> "Jesse"  wrote in message 
> news:Ppyym.57940$944.21702@newsfe09.iad...
> 
>> Well hell, you baffle them with logic, thats good enough for me.
>> You made a good point "it would be boring if we all agreed", and that is 
>> exactly what they are after.
>> They do 90%, at least, of their "debating" with themselves, basically 
>> tripping over themselves to agree with each other, and raising minor 
>> points of difference here and there, just to present what objective, open 
>> minded guys that they are.
>> Such charades are as easy to see through as a glass table, and deserve 
>> nothing but the contempt I give them, by refusing to even directly reply 
>> to the worst of them [Chris, and boot licking lackey Chatnoir, at this 
>> point].
> 
> Most people who have ever posted here have been OK with me even when they've 
> disagreed with me.  You invite a few sparks to fly when you disagree with 
> someone's basic beliefs, obviously, so sometimes people get a bit pissed 
> with you for a while.  It's to be expected, and I think/hope most people 
> here are able to get over it pretty quickly.  A small number of posters in 
> the past just wanted trouble of course, but you get that sort of thing 
> wherever you go.

Well, with me and people like hippy, chris and their various toadies, 
and the french maggot RLM who has been poking his long nose in this 
group, we are idealogical enemies.
I would like to personally beat the shit out of them, and if and when it 
becomes legal to hunt down enemies of the state, I'd be more than happy 
to offer my services in getting rid of vermin like this.
So yeah its the internet and all, don't get too serious - But deep down 
inside, I would like to see them gone *poof* ,,, And I'm not bashful 
about admitting it.
They think the same of me, of course, but will not likely admit it, in 
fear of tarnishing the peace loving, civilized image that they wish to 
project.

That said, I don't mind at all listening to a variety of views, and 
debating any rational person.

>> Yeah you've been here for a while, so have I.
> 
> I've been around for about 12 years (not here obviously!)
> Wow!.........
> 
> 
>> I think I started posting in late 2002 or so.
>> Not many Mericans left here, I wonder whatever happened to Oak, I think he 
>> must have been felled.
> 
> I wondered that too.  He was just suddenly gone.  Never appeared again.

Gotta be dead, RIP.
A person just doesn't amass that many posts, then drop off to nothing 
overnight.
Could have been some progressive, terminal illness that he never was 
inclined to say anything about, might have got suddenly zapped by 
heavens knows what.
It'll be like seeing a damn ghost if he ever came back.
Not that I ever had much going on with him, he seemed to me kinda level 
headed and middle of the road type of guy from what I remember, somewhat 
like you.

> I think one person has died that I've known on the net since I've been on 
> it, and I heard of at least another dying just as I got on.  It maybe wasn't 
> Oak's fate, but it's going to happen to some of the people we know in places 
> like this.  When it does they'll just vanish (unless they've put in their 
> will - "announce my death on uk-ce-t so I don't look like I've been beaten 
> by TWP's superior debating and run off!").

Yeah, it happens.
I'm healthy as a damn horse, but who knows what tomorrow might bring.
I remember reading about some website that does just that, makes 
announcements of passing to various forums people were active at.

>> He is still, by far, the all time leading poster here, as far as post 
>> counts go with 13,540 ,,, Though #2 Dippy, at 9,545 as we speak, will 
>> doubtlessly pass him in the near future, unless ill fortune befalls his 
>> ugly ass too.
>>
>> You are at #5 at 6,298, and I bring up the rear of all time top 10 at 
>> 4,614.
> 
> I didn't think I'd posted that often! :-)
> 
> 
> TWP
> 
> 6,299

There ya go, give hippy a run for his $$.
Vain bastard that he is, he'll probably want to be crowned as king of 
alt.uk once he passes the dormant Oaks mark.
I'd be all for it, if I'm the one who gets to crown him.

"Jesse"  wrote in message 
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>> Most people who have ever posted here have been OK with me even when 
>> they've disagreed with me.  You invite a few sparks to fly when you 
>> disagree with someone's basic beliefs, obviously, so sometimes people get 
>> a bit pissed with you for a while.  It's to be expected, and I think/hope 
>> most people here are able to get over it pretty quickly.  A small number 
>> of posters in the past just wanted trouble of course, but you get that 
>> sort of thing wherever you go.
>
> Well, with me and people like hippy, chris and their various toadies, and 
> the french maggot RLM who has been poking his long nose in this group, we 
> are idealogical enemies.

Just a thought - don't you think opposing viewpoints are useful and 
sometimes necessary to prevent self-delusion?   One of the most useful 
things I've found here is being temporarily shown the world through someone 
else's eyes.  I usually (not always) come away still thinking what I thought 
originally, because I've usually come to my beliefs through different chains 
of events or news reports that are hard to be talked out of, but discussing 
things with someone else at least gives you an extra brain to think with.

You maybe meet with more hostility than I do because you're American, and 
you can't help but represent America to those who strongly believe that 
America is responsible for many of the evils in the world.  You might meet 
with some hostility even if you agreed with that viewpoint.



> I would like to personally beat the shit out of them, and if and when it 
> becomes legal to hunt down enemies of the state, I'd be more than happy to 
> offer my services in getting rid of vermin like this.

Why though?  I'm sure you have your reasons.


>>
>>> I think I started posting in late 2002 or so.
>>> Not many Mericans left here, I wonder whatever happened to Oak, I think 
>>> he must have been felled.
>>
>> I wondered that too.  He was just suddenly gone.  Never appeared again.
>
> Gotta be dead, RIP.
> A person just doesn't amass that many posts, then drop off to nothing 
> overnight.
> Could have been some progressive, terminal illness that he never was 
> inclined to say anything about, might have got suddenly zapped by heavens 
> knows what.
> It'll be like seeing a damn ghost if he ever came back.
> Not that I ever had much going on with him, he seemed to me kinda level 
> headed and middle of the road type of guy from what I remember, somewhat 
> like you.
>
>> I think one person has died that I've known on the net since I've been on 
>> it, and I heard of at least another dying just as I got on.  It maybe 
>> wasn't Oak's fate, but it's going to happen to some of the people we know 
>> in places like this.  When it does they'll just vanish (unless they've 
>> put in their will - "announce my death on uk-ce-t so I don't look like 
>> I've been beaten by TWP's superior debating and run off!").
>
> Yeah, it happens.
> I'm healthy as a damn horse,

I think a former poster (not here) I heard of that crashed with a tow truck 
was too.

TWP

In message <Ppyym.57940$944.21702@newsfe09.iad>, Jesse 
writes
>TWP wrote:
>> "Jesse"  wrote in message  news:IZlym.472622$Ta5.111311@ne
>>wsfe15.iad...
>>> TWP wrote:
>>>> "Chris H"  wrote in message  news:Jzl0KIHC6wwKF
>>>>AhL@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>>>>> In message , TWP
>>>>>  writes
>Yeah you've been here for a while, so have I.
>I think I started posting in late 2002 or so.
>Not many Mericans left here, I wonder whatever happened to Oak, I think
>he must have been felled.

Most of the Americans went as reality became too difficult to ignore and
all the propaganda from GWB was shown to be lies (where are the WMD)
and the fact that 90% of things predicted by me, Robin, Hippy etc  were
shown to be correct.

FACE, OAK, George , Z etc  had all their core ideas on Iraq and
Afghanistan and the performance of the US military shown to be false.
Not to mention the downright lies they pushed....  They all used fake
names and id's George's claimed employment was shown to be a lie. (We
can make transatlantic phone calls from here)

MikelG  was real (worked at Pope AFB) and we corresponded off the NG.

I recall as late as December 2007 being told by the Americans here I had
no idea what I a was talking about when, since 2006, I had been
predicting a major financial melt down in the US in the summer of
2008.....

Also in 2001 I predicted the course of the fight in Afghanistan despite
Jesse and friends saying it would all be over in 6 months.  I said at
the time the Tora Bora complex was a myth... since shown to be
completely accurate.

Then in 2002 I recall saying that whilst the US would win the initial
battle field push into Iraq they had no hope of winning the street
fighti9ng and subsequent Police action... and they are leaving Iraq
without a victory. (In 2 years Iraq will be a Pro-Iranian Islamic state
so OBL wins.)

The list goes on and on... hence the many   "I Told You so T-Shirt"
threads in this NG

I can't thing of a single time when OAK, FACE, Z, Jesse, called anything
correctly over the last 8 years.

What they did not realise is WW3 has happened and the US has lost.... by
it's own hand.  I have had discussions re the "new world order" in
several areas of business and politics.  All are quietly saying the
same: The US is still in the top 5 but not top dog any more.

The reason why it is in the top 5 is others are keeping it there because
a sudden complete collapse will cause more problems so more of a
"controlled demolition" is required.   If you notice Europe and Asia are
coming out of recession faster than the USA.

Also now many US businesses are foreign owned. The US is important as a
consumer market. That is all. If you note the G7->G8->
G8+India+China....   The UN security council will change soon. The UK is
more than likely to loose it's seat but the US will be in a minority
when India and others join as permanent members.  I suspect the US will
also loose it's veto.  Then Israel is doomed.


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\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
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In message , TWP
 writes
>
>"Jesse"  wrote in message
>news:Ppyym.57940$944.21702@newsfe09.iad...
>> Yeah you've been here for a while, so have I.
>
>I've been around for about 12 years (not here obviously!)
>Wow!.........

I have been on line on the Internet for about 19 years.... and for the
previous 10 years on Fido (the BBS system that actually had global
email!)
>> I think I started posting in late 2002 or so.
>> Not many Mericans left here, I wonder whatever happened to Oak, I think he
>> must have been felled.
>
>I wondered that too.  He was just suddenly gone.  Never appeared again.

Reality got in the way. They woke up and smelled the coffee... Reality
hitting a Republican is not a pretty sight! :-)


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\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

In message <QHAym.22083$Fg7.18448@newsfe03.iad>, Jesse 
writes
>TWP wrote:
>> "Jesse"  wrote in message  news:Ppyym.57940$944.21702@news
>>fe09.iad...
>>
>
>Well, with me and people like hippy, chris and their various toadies,
>and the french maggot RLM who has been poking his long nose in this
>group, we are idealogical enemies.
>I would like to personally beat the shit out of them,

:-) Of course... it's your only option as you don't have the
intelligence or education to have a grown up discussion.

> and if and when it becomes legal to hunt down enemies of the state,

Which state? I for one am a defender of the state. Got Military service
numbers to prove it.

>They think the same of me, of course, but will not likely admit it, in
>fear of tarnishing the peace loving, civilized image that they wish to
>project.

No we just think you are a sad, uneducated fool who is easily lead by
propaganda.

>>> I think I started posting in late 2002 or so.
>>> Not many Mericans left here, I wonder whatever happened to Oak, I
>>>think he  must have been felled.
>>  I wondered that too.  He was just suddenly gone.  Never appeared
>>again.
>
>Gotta be dead, RIP.

Yes.. I believe he was not well when he was posting. RIP.

>A person just doesn't amass that many posts, then drop off to nothing
>overnight.

Some do.. When things get busy I have no time for NG's. Real life gets
in the way. I think I have dropped of for 6 months a couple of times.

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\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

In message , TWP
 writes
>You maybe meet with more hostility than I do because you're American,

No it is because he is a vicious uneducated racist and bigot with not
real ideas of his own other than republican propaganda. Also he can't
hold a civilised debate.

Also he lies about his career and life.

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"Chris H"  wrote in message 
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> In message , TWP
>  writes
>>You maybe meet with more hostility than I do because you're American,
>
> No it is because he is a vicious uneducated racist and bigot with not
> real ideas of his own other than republican propaganda. Also he can't
> hold a civilised debate.
>
> Also he lies about his career and life.
>




Well, that's cleared that up! :-)

I don't know why you care about his career or his life or whether I'm a Fox 
News Zombie though.  Don't let it all get to you - you'll end up in an early 
grave!


TWP

"Chris H"  wrote in message 
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> In message , TWP
>  writes
>>
>>"Jesse"  wrote in message
>>news:Ppyym.57940$944.21702@newsfe09.iad...
>>> Yeah you've been here for a while, so have I.
>>
>>I've been around for about 12 years (not here obviously!)
>>Wow!.........
>
> I have been on line on the Internet for about 19 years.... and for the
> previous 10 years on Fido (the BBS system that actually had global
> email!)

I heard of Fido, but never saw it.

I'd have got on BBS's in 1984 if my spiffy acoustic coupler modem had 
actually worked!  (1200/75, 300/300 baud!  Also 1200/1200, but I'd believe 
that when I saw it)  It seemed to connect, then just put loads of scrambled 
ASCII characters all over the screen, like someone typing really fast, but 
not caring which button they pressed.  Things got really crazy when it tried 
to type bell and clear screen characters.   I got fed up with fighting with 
it and traded up for a ZX Spectrum +.

TWP

In message , TWP
 writes
>
>"Chris H"  wrote in message
>news:VgiD+ZJXCwyKFAzq@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>> In message , TWP
>>  writes
>>>You maybe meet with more hostility than I do because you're American,
>>
>> No it is because he is a vicious uneducated racist and bigot with not
>> real ideas of his own other than republican propaganda. Also he can't
>> hold a civilised debate.
>>
>> Also he lies about his career and life.
>Well, that's cleared that up! :-)

:-)

>I don't know why you care about his career or his life

He made claims about knowing things and relevant experience including
military service in Iraq but the dates  did not add up.

Also he claims many racial things about "niggers", gays, spics etc
mainly their intelligence etc that do not hold up and it is clear that
his life is part of it.  His claims there do not fit together. He is
lying and fantasising about his own life and mostly spouting propaganda.

It appears that this white supremacist is not even honest with himself.

>or whether I'm a Fox
>News Zombie though.  Don't let it all get to you - you'll end up in an early
>grave!

Too late for that :-)  I am way past an early grave.   Running a
business is more likely to send me to my grave.


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In message , TWP
 writes
>
>"Chris H"  wrote in message
>news:$$N5JWIr7vyKFAmL@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>> In message , TWP
>>  writes
>>>
>>>"Jesse"  wrote in message
>>>news:Ppyym.57940$944.21702@newsfe09.iad...
>>>> Yeah you've been here for a while, so have I.
>>>
>>>I've been around for about 12 years (not here obviously!)
>>>Wow!.........
>>
>> I have been on line on the Internet for about 19 years.... and for the
>> previous 10 years on Fido (the BBS system that actually had global
>> email!)
>
>I heard of Fido, but never saw it.
>
>I'd have got on BBS's in 1984 if my spiffy acoustic coupler modem had
>actually worked!

I always had a proper hard wired modem.

>(1200/75, 300/300 baud!  Also 1200/1200, but I'd believe
>that when I saw it)

1200/1200 was half duplex and never really caught on as most received
more than the sent then 2400/2400 came in followed by 9600... It all
seems such a long tome ago.

>It seemed to connect, then just put loads of scrambled
>ASCII characters all over the screen, like someone typing really fast, but
>not caring which button they pressed.

Usually parity error.... Yes in those days you had to set word length
and parity. Odd, eve, mark, space or No Parity.... 5,6,7,8 bit words.

>  Things got really crazy when it tried
>to type bell and clear screen characters.   I got fed up with fighting with
>it and traded up for a ZX Spectrum +.

:-) I had one of those.... some what modified. It had 3 parallel BIOS +
a RAM bank. One of the Bios's was the original, one modified and  one of
my own. There was a set of debounced switches on the case to swap. SO I
could start games on the Origional BIOS and then swap to one of mine,.

Serial and parallel ports and a proper keyboard, also too flooy drives
and a prestel adapter.... that was when I still had time to do
electronics.

Mind you I worked for a communications  company in Malvern at the
time:-)


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TWP wrote:
> "Jesse"  wrote in message 
> news:QHAym.22083$Fg7.18448@newsfe03.iad...
> 
> 
>>> Most people who have ever posted here have been OK with me even when 
>>> they've disagreed with me.  You invite a few sparks to fly when you 
>>> disagree with someone's basic beliefs, obviously, so sometimes people get 
>>> a bit pissed with you for a while.  It's to be expected, and I think/hope 
>>> most people here are able to get over it pretty quickly.  A small number 
>>> of posters in the past just wanted trouble of course, but you get that 
>>> sort of thing wherever you go.
>> Well, with me and people like hippy, chris and their various toadies, and 
>> the french maggot RLM who has been poking his long nose in this group, we 
>> are idealogical enemies.
> 
> Just a thought - don't you think opposing viewpoints are useful and 
> sometimes necessary to prevent self-delusion?  

I wouldn't say self delusion, but rather perspective, variety.
Thats why I said "That said, I don't mind at all listening to a variety 
of views, and debating any rational person."
Entertainment value is also a factor, thats practically the only reason 
I read anything hippy writes anymore, for example.

I don't do it much on the net, but I often play "devils advocate" in 
some of my real life debates, where I'll take a position I disagree with 
and try to defend it in a convincing fashion, and see if I can convince 
the other person that I really believe that.
It can be a great way to tell the real views of the other person and, 
obviously, requires some knowledge of the other position to be rendered 
effectively.


> One of the most useful 
> things I've found here is being temporarily shown the world through someone 
> else's eyes.  I usually (not always) come away still thinking what I thought 
> originally, because I've usually come to my beliefs through different chains 
> of events or news reports that are hard to be talked out of, but discussing 
> things with someone else at least gives you an extra brain to think with.

Well, we all have out methods of deriving opinions, and thought 
processes which lead to them.
I am old school, set in my ways & views, convinced of their validity, 
and am therefore highly unlikely to be swayed by opposing views.

> You maybe meet with more hostility than I do because you're American, and 
> you can't help but represent America to those who strongly believe that 
> America is responsible for many of the evils in the world.  You might meet 
> with some hostility even if you agreed with that viewpoint.

Well, the rampant, rabid, foaming at the mouth anti-Americanism is plain 
for all to see from the usual suspects.
Barely can tell their rhetoric apart from the radical islamics ,,, In 
fact, they spout much the same drivel, with almost the same spin on just 
about everything - But anti-Americanism being first and foremost on 
their propaganda list.
I hardly bother to think about it, and does not bother me in the least.
If people want to associate me, by default, as "America" just because 
I'm "American", thats fine by me - After all, if you are not pissing 
someone off, then you are doing something very wrong.

I have expressed views in the past that even hippy came right out and 
complimented me for, and I could dig up the google links to prove it.
I march to the beat of my own drum, and only consider what is right for 
myself, my family & my country [and race] as my guiding lights - And, 
obviously, those views often do not fall in line with "American policy".

>> I would like to personally beat the shit out of them, and if and when it 
>> becomes legal to hunt down enemies of the state, I'd be more than happy to 
>> offer my services in getting rid of vermin like this.
> 
> Why though?  I'm sure you have your reasons.

Easy - The positions that they promote & believe in will be the literal 
death of the western world, and a ghetto inheritance for my children and 
grandchildren.
To counter that, if thats not worth fighting and killing for, I don't 
know what is.
They are poison shrews, advancing the invasion of our [once] civilized 
and great nations by hoards of spiteful 3rd world aliens, and for that I 
have more regard for the life of a fruit fly than I do for them.

When the age of artificial politically correct tolerance falls by the 
wayside, there is going to be hell to pay, and I trust & pray that I 
will live to see that day and, indeed, play an active part in the 
redemption of my countries heart and soul.

"Chris H"  wrote in message 
news:HQIHSvN8dxyKFAD+@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...


>>It seemed to connect, then just put loads of scrambled
>>ASCII characters all over the screen, like someone typing really fast, but
>>not caring which button they pressed.
>
> Usually parity error.... Yes in those days you had to set word length
> and parity. Odd, eve, mark, space or No Parity.... 5,6,7,8 bit words.

I came to think that too.  Pity it didn't occur to me at the time, I think 
I'd have really got something out of it if it had worked.



>
>>  Things got really crazy when it tried
>>to type bell and clear screen characters.   I got fed up with fighting 
>>with
>>it and traded up for a ZX Spectrum +.
>
> :-) I had one of those.... some what modified. It had 3 parallel BIOS +
> a RAM bank. One of the Bios's was the original, one modified and  one of
> my own. There was a set of debounced switches on the case to swap. SO I
> could start games on the Origional BIOS and then swap to one of mine,.


Why did you do that?

Have you seen the new modifications for Spectrums and BBC B's?   People are 
selling modification kits to connect flash memory cards to them as hard 
drives!

I wish I could take a few of those with me back in time! :-)



> Serial and parallel ports and a proper keyboard, also too flooy drives
> and a prestel adapter.... that was when I still had time to do
> electronics.
>
> Mind you I worked for a communications  company in Malvern at the
> time:-)

I was working for school teachers at the time! :-)



TWP

In message , TWP
 writes
>
>"Chris H"  wrote in message
>news:HQIHSvN8dxyKFAD+@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>
>
>>>It seemed to connect, then just put loads of scrambled
>>>ASCII characters all over the screen, like someone typing really fast, but
>>>not caring which button they pressed.
>>
>> Usually parity error.... Yes in those days you had to set word length
>> and parity. Odd, eve, mark, space or No Parity.... 5,6,7,8 bit words.
>
>I came to think that too.  Pity it didn't occur to me at the time, I think
>I'd have really got something out of it if it had worked.
>
>
>
>>
>>>  Things got really crazy when it tried
>>>to type bell and clear screen characters.   I got fed up with fighting
>>>with
>>>it and traded up for a ZX Spectrum +.
>>
>> :-) I had one of those.... some what modified. It had 3 parallel BIOS +
>> a RAM bank. One of the Bios's was the original, one modified and  one of
>> my own. There was a set of debounced switches on the case to swap. SO I
>> could start games on the Origional BIOS and then swap to one of mine,.
>
>
>Why did you do that?

Because I could :-)

I wanted to correct some of the known bugs in the BIOS, add a few ideas
of my own also it was a way of getting inside some games.


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