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date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:23:37 GMT,
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Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.09.24
The target was a house adjacent to one of the Haqqani network's madrassas.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/11-suspected-drone-strike-kills-three-in-n-waziristan--il--01
date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:23:37 GMT
author: Larry Hammick
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.09.24
"Larry Hammick" wrote ...
> The target was a house adjacent to one of the Haqqani network's madrassas.
> http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/11-suspected-drone-strike-kills-three-in-n-waziristan--il--01
"The identities of the dead were not known".
So perhaps another three more innocents dead ? Maybe children ? Who knows ?
Who cares ?
The tragedy is that most people simply don't care because it doesn't affect
them. Until those so fed up with the slaughter become radicalised and turn
to terrorism as a tool of retaliation.
Nearly every terrorist I've heard justify their action on the west has put
it down to such slaughter. We'd not stand for it if the American military
were doing the same to our countres. Nor would America stand for it if
another country were doing the same to them. Why should they be any
different ?
It's easy to play armchair-commander, not care if the target were
legitimate, not care who dies. Easy to lose sight of morality and what's
right and what's wrong. Easy to not see the hatred and desire for revenge we
are breeding.
date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:28:09 GMT
author: The Happy Hippy
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.09.24
/The News/, Pakistan:
0330 PST, Friday, September 25, 2009
US drone strike claims 10 in NWA
MIRANSHAH: A US drone attack on Thursday killed 10 militants from a network
fighting Western troops in Afghanistan at their compound in the tribal belt,
officials said.
The strike from a suspected US spy plane was the fourth this month in North
Waziristan, where militants linked to Taliban and Al-Qaeda who are fighting
against 100,000 US and NATO troops in Afghanistan are said to be hiding.
"Ten dead bodies were recovered from the debris of the house and two
militants were wounded in the attack," a Pakistani security official told
media on condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to speak
publicly.
Another official and residents confirmed the same toll, but one official in
the semi-autonomous North Waziristan district said seven people were killed.
"The target was a compound of Haqqani's men. According to our reports all of
the dead belong to the Haqqani network," the official said.
The Haqqani network is a powerful group based in northwest Pakistan closely
linked to Al-Qaeda and known for its ruthless and sophisticated attacks,
including an assassination attempt on Afghan President Hamid Karzai in 2008.
"One missile fired by a US drone hit the house of Afghan national Ahmad
Afghani," said a security official.
There were unconfirmed reports that one the sons of former Soviet resistance
commander in Afghanistan, Jalaluddin Haqqani, is called Ahmad.
"We are investigating whether it was the son or not," a security official
told media after the attack in Dandy Darpa Khel area, five kilometres (three
miles) northwest of Miranshah in the North Waziristan tribal district.
The targeted building acted as an office where militants would come to
receive orders and rest between bouts of fighting across the border in
Afghanistan, local residents and intelligence officials said.
It was not clear whether Ahmad Afghani was present at the time of the
attack. Five other people were injured but the identities of the casualties
were not clear given the remote location and late hour of the attack.
date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:20:48 GMT
author: Larry Hammick
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.09.24
Dawn Media:
MIRANSHAH: Eight people were killed and two others injured when two missiles
fired by a drone hit the Markaz of Afghan commander Ahmad Haqqani, son of
Jalaluddin Haqqani, in Dandi Derpakhel area of North Waziristan on Thursday
night.
The area is a stronghold of the Taliban and Jalaluddin Haqqani is believed
to be living here.Jalaluddin Haqqani, it may be mentioned, was a minister in
the Taliban government of Afghanistan.
date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:46:38 GMT
author: Larry Hammick
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.09.24
In message <dgTum.98054$OO7.83335@text.news.virginmedia.com>, The Happy
Hippy writes
>
>"Larry Hammick" wrote ...
>
>> The target was a house adjacent to one of the Haqqani network's madrassas.
>> http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pa
>>kistan/11-suspected-drone-strike-kills-three-in-n-waziristan--il--01
>
>"The identities of the dead were not known".
>
>So perhaps another three more innocents dead ? Maybe children ? Who knows ?
>Who cares ?
I do bnecause it has probably generated half a dozen more terrorists who
hate the USA (and by implication the UK) who are prepared to bomb and
kill. Can you blame them?
>The tragedy is that most people simply don't care because it doesn't affect
>them. Until those so fed up with the slaughter become radicalised and turn
>to terrorism as a tool of retaliation.
Which is what 9/11 was
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date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:36:57 +0100
author: Chris H
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.09.24
"Chris H" wrote ...
> In message <dgTum.98054$OO7.83335@text.news.virginmedia.com>, The Happy
> Hippy writes
>>
>>"Larry Hammick" wrote ...
>>
>>> The target was a house adjacent to one of the Haqqani network's
>>> madrassas.
>>> http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pa
>>>kistan/11-suspected-drone-strike-kills-three-in-n-waziristan--il--01
>>
>>"The identities of the dead were not known".
>>
>>So perhaps another three more innocents dead ? Maybe children ? Who knows
>>?
>>Who cares ?
>
> I do bnecause it has probably generated half a dozen more terrorists who
> hate the USA (and by implication the UK) who are prepared to bomb and
> kill. Can you blame them?
I'm quite sure that almost anyone who is a victim of unprovoked attack and
their relatives and friends would feel pangs for revenge and retaliation,
and more so if their complaints on such were casually dismissed as
'justified and right'.
Killing innocent people can and does create numerous enemies.
>>The tragedy is that most people simply don't care because it doesn't
>>affect
>>them. Until those so fed up with the slaughter become radicalised and turn
>>to terrorism as a tool of retaliation.
>
> Which is what 9/11 was
It's relatively easy to see much of the 'driven by ideology / religion'
claims tagged on to terrorists as a way to avoid facing up to the reality
that their action is retaliatory and revengeful in nature. It's easier to
call them irrational, dangerous, nutters than accept 'we' might have played
a significant part in bringing about what they do. It's easier to call
others 'wrong' than ourselves.
date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:38:21 GMT
author: The Happy Hippy
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.09.24
Pakistan is putting some effort into identifying all the 10 killed in this
attack. Sirajuddin Haqqani is the de facto head of the network that was
targeted. His father was a "cabinet minister" in the Saudi-backed Taliban
regime of Afghanistan before NATO blew it to hell.
date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:15:21 GMT
author: Larry Hammick
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Re: Drone strike in N. Waziristan 2009.09.24
In message <JJgwm.45765$Db2.22298@edtnps83>, Larry Hammick
writes
>Pakistan is putting some effort into identifying all the 10 killed in this
>attack.
Now that says it all! The US is murdering civilians and identifying them
later...
If any civilians are killed the drone operators should be on a murder
charge.
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date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:25:29 +0100
author: Chris H
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