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date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:12:35 -0400,    group: uk.current-events.terrorism        back       
Warning: Don't argue with muslims in the UK   
Christian hoteliers charged after argument with Muslim guest

By John Fahey, Press Association

Monday, 21 September 2009


A pair of Christian hoteliers who argued with a Muslim guest have been 
charged with a racist offence.

The couple, Ben and Sharon Vogelenzang, run the Bounty House Hotel but 
claim takings are 80 per cent down because of the row, which has forced 
them to sell the business.

Trouble started at the hotel in Aintree, Merseyside, over breakfast one 
morning in March.

The unnamed guest, who was staying at the hotel while being treated at a 
nearby hospital, came down to breakfast wearing a hijab - the 
traditional Muslim head-dress.

The couple had never seen her wear the religious clothing before and a 
discussion ensued.

It is alleged Dutch-born Mr Vogelenzang said Mohammed, the founder of 
Islam, was a warlord.

He denies the claims.

It is also claimed that Mrs Vogelenzang, 54, who has run the hotel with 
her husband for six years, described the hijab as a form of bondage.

The guest complained to police and the couple were charged under the 
1986 Public Order Act - with using "threatening, abusive or insulting 
words" which were "religiously aggravated".

They will stand trial at Liverpool Magistrates' Court on 8 December.

The Vogelenzangs were unavailable for comment but are being backed by 
The Christian Institute.

Spokesman Mike Judge said: "Important issues of religious liberty and 
free speech are at stake.

"We have detected a worrying tendency for public bodies to misapply the 
law in a way that seems to sideline Christianity more than other faiths.

"Nobody was being threatened and while the Vogelenzangs were fully aware 
that a robust exchange had taken place and the woman had been perhaps a 
little offended, they were shocked when the police became involved.

"We feel their treatment has been heavy-handed and it is not in the 
public interest to go ahead with this prosecution.

"People see the police standing by when Muslims demonstrate holding some 
pretty bloodthirsty placards, but at the same time come down hard on two 
Christians having a debate over breakfast at a hotel.

"We are just hoping the magistrates use their common sense and find them 
not guilty."

He added the couple were "absolutely distressed by it".


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date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:12:35 -0400   author:   Jesse

Re: Warning: Don't argue with muslims in the UK   
For that matter you cant say anything about the Jews either which they dont 
approve of, as that is "Anti-Semitic".
date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:12:31 GMT   author:   Nobody

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