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date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:21:33 GMT,    group: uk.current-events.terrorism        back       
3 British Muslims convicted of trying to bring down civilian airliners   
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8242238.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/6024663/Airlines-gang-guilty.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6824884.ece

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/07/plane-bomb-plot-trial-verdicts
date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:21:33 GMT   author:   Larry Hammick

Re: 3 British Muslims convicted of trying to bring down civilian airliners   
On Sep 7, 1:21 pm, "Larry Hammick"  wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8242238.stm
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/6024663/Ai...
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6824884.ece
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/07/plane-bomb-plot-trial-verdicts

The Biggie here was in the last article:

"The arrest in Pakistan, also at the urging of the US, of the plot's
alleged mastermind, Birmingham-born Rashid Rauf, led UK police to
bring their own arrests forward. Scotland Yard and MI5 feared if the
UK cell learned of Rauf's arrest they would either try to escape or
rush forward their attack, fearing imminent capture."

According to Rachael Maddow, Cheney was the one who forced the Brits
hands by having the mastermind arrested in Pakistan!  They then had to
arrest those who they could and were implicated!  The Brits were very
mad at Cheney for forcing their hand!  They wanted to continue
survellance until everyone involved could be rounded up!

So, Cheney by his rash actions, may have let terrorist involved here
pull back and regroup for further action!
date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:52:06 -0700 (PDT)   author:   chatnoir

Re: 3 British Muslims convicted of trying to bring down civilian airliners   
On Sep 9, 11:52 am, chatnoir  wrote:
> On Sep 7, 1:21 pm, "Larry Hammick"  wrote:
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8242238.stm
>
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/6024663/Ai...
>
> >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6824884.ece
>
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/07/plane-bomb-plot-trial-verdicts
>
> The Biggie here was in the last article:
>
> "The arrest in Pakistan, also at the urging of the US, of the plot's
> alleged mastermind, Birmingham-born Rashid Rauf, led UK police to
> bring their own arrests forward. Scotland Yard and MI5 feared if the
> UK cell learned of Rauf's arrest they would either try to escape or
> rush forward their attack, fearing imminent capture."
>
> According to Rachael Maddow, Cheney was the one who forced the Brits
> hands by having the mastermind arrested in Pakistan!  They then had to
> arrest those who they could and were implicated!  The Brits were very
> mad at Cheney for forcing their hand!  They wanted to continue
> survellance until everyone involved could be rounded up!
>
> So, Cheney by his rash actions, may have let terrorist involved here
> pull back and regroup for further action!

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/cheneys-sabotage-of-counter-terrorism/
date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:46:09 -0700 (PDT)   author:   chatnoir

Re: 3 British Muslims convicted of trying to bring down civilian airliners   
In message <04f2b855-a77b-49fe-b7bd-dea7f66be92e@d15g2000prc.googlegroup
s.com>, chatnoir  writes
>On Sep 7, 1:21 pm, "Larry Hammick"  wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8242238.stm
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/6024663/Ai...
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6824884.ece
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/07/plane-bomb-plot-trial-verdicts
>
>The Biggie here was in the last article:
>
>"The arrest in Pakistan, also at the urging of the US, of the plot's
>alleged mastermind, Birmingham-born Rashid Rauf, led UK police to
>bring their own arrests forward. Scotland Yard and MI5 feared if the
>UK cell learned of Rauf's arrest they would either try to escape or
>rush forward their attack, fearing imminent capture."
>
>According to Rachael Maddow, Cheney was the one who forced the Brits
>hands by having the mastermind arrested in Pakistan!  They then had to
>arrest those who they could and were implicated!  The Brits were very
>mad at Cheney for forcing their hand!  They wanted to continue
>survellance until everyone involved could be rounded up!
>
>So, Cheney by his rash actions, may have let terrorist involved here
>pull back and regroup for further action!


Situation normal. The US has completely screwed up several
investigations in the UK.

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\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
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date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 22:38:09 +0100   author:   Chris H

Re: 3 British Muslims convicted of trying to bring down civilian airliners   
A possibility of a third trial of three other guys on whom the previous two 
juries were hung:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32806140/ns/world_news-europe/ (from AP)
date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:42:29 GMT   author:   Larry Hammick

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