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date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:31:07 GMT,    group: uk.current-events.terrorism        back       
Saddam Hussein 'more scared of Iran than the US'   
Saddam Hussein 'more scared of Iran than the US'

Times Online
July 2, 2009

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article6621982.ece

Saddam Hussein let the world believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction
because he did not want to appear weak to Iran, according to the Washington
Post.

In interviews with the FBI before he was hanged, the former Iraqi president
also denounced Osama bin Laden as "a zealot" and said the United States was
not Iraq's enemy, the Post reports.

In fact, he claimed, he felt so vulnerable to the threat from "fanatic"
leaders in Tehran that he would have been prepared to seek a "security
agreement with the United States to protect [Iraq] from threats in the
region," according to declassified accounts of the interviews released on
Wednesday and published in the Washington Post

Former president George W Bush, supported by former Prime Minister tony
Blair, ordered the invasion of Iraq six years ago on the grounds that
Saddam's regime possessed weapons of mass destruction, despite the failure
of UN weapons inspectors to uncover any such weapons.

During his interviews - 20 formal interrogations and five 'casual
conversations' which were carried out in 2004, Saddam admitted that he
should have allowed the United Nations to witness the destruction of his
country's weapons stockpile after the 1991 Gulf War.

The FBI summaries of the interviews were obtained under the Freedom of
Information Act by the National Security Archive, an independent
non-governmental research institute, and posted on its Web site on
Wednesday. The last formal interview, held on May 1 was completely redacted
but the others had few deletions, the Washington Post reports.

The formal interviews, held from February 7 to May 1, covered Saddam's rise
to power, the Kuwait invasion, and the crackdown on the Shiite uprising in
extensive detail, while the subject of the weapons of mass destruction and
al-Qaeda were raised in the casual conversations, held after the formal
interviews from May 10 to June 28.

George Piro, the agent who conducted the interviews, raised Iraq's alleged
links with al Queda in his last conversation with Saddam but Saddam's
replies negated the Bush administration's efforts to link him with Osama
bin Laden.

Saddam told Mr Piro that he had never met bin Laden and that the two men did
not share "the same belief or vision". He said that "he was a believer in
God but was not a zealot . . . that religion and government should not
mix."

When the FBI agent said there were reasons why Saddam and al-Qaeda should
have cooperated, as they had the same enemies in the United States and
Saudi Arabia, Saddam replied that the United States was not Iraq's enemy,
and that he simply opposed its policies.

He also made it clear that he considered Iran a greater threat than the
United States, saying that he was convinced Iran was trying to annex the
largely Shiite southern Iraq.

"The threat from Iran was the major factor as to why he did not allow the
return of UN inspectors," Mr Piro wrote. "Hussein stated he was more
concerned about Iran discovering Iraq's weaknesses and vulnerabilities than
the repercussions of the United States for his refusal to allow UN
inspectors back into Iraq."

Saddam was later transferred to Iraqi custody, and he was hanged in December
2006. 

-- 
Facts are sacred ... but comment is free
date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:31:07 GMT   author:   Robin T Cox

Re: Saddam Hussein 'more scared of Iran than the US'   
In message <v7%2m.50341$OO7.35408@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Robin T
Cox  writes
>
>Saddam Hussein 'more scared of Iran than the US'
>
>Times Online
>July 2, 2009
>
>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article6621982.ece
>
>Saddam Hussein let the world believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction
>because he did not want to appear weak to Iran, according to the Washington
>Post.

I thought everyone knew that... see my posts of 2002 onwards.

>In interviews with the FBI before he was hanged, the former Iraqi president
>also denounced Osama bin Laden as "a zealot" and said the United States was
>not Iraq's enemy, the Post reports.

That was well known and one of Al-Qeada's main aims was the removal of
Saddam  as I said see my posts from 2001 onwards.


>In fact, he claimed, he felt so vulnerable to the threat from "fanatic"
>leaders in Tehran that he would have been prepared to seek a "security
>agreement with the United States to protect [Iraq] from threats in the
>region," according to declassified accounts of the interviews released on
>Wednesday and published in the Washington Post

This is why Iran offered to talk to the US in 2003... now Iran is a lot
stronger and the US a hell of a lot weaker Iran does not have to worry
about the US

>He also made it clear that he considered Iran a greater threat than the
>United States, saying that he was convinced Iran was trying to annex the
>largely Shiite southern Iraq.

That was known from the mid 1980's (saw that myself first hand)

>"The threat from Iran was the major factor as to why he did not allow the
>return of UN inspectors," Mr Piro wrote. "Hussein stated he was more
>concerned about Iran discovering Iraq's weaknesses and vulnerabilities than
>the repercussions of the United States for his refusal to allow UN
>inspectors back into Iraq."

I recall several people saying that at the time.....



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\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
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date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:13:15 +0100   author:   Chris H

Re: Saddam Hussein 'more scared of Iran than the US'   
Robin T Cox wrote:
> Saddam Hussein 'more scared of Iran than the US'
> 
> Times Online
> July 2, 2009
> 
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article6621982.ece
> 
> Saddam Hussein let the world believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction
> because he did not want to appear weak to Iran, according to the Washington
> Post.
> 
> In interviews with the FBI before he was hanged, the former Iraqi president
> also denounced Osama bin Laden as "a zealot" and said the United States was
> not Iraq's enemy, the Post reports.
> 
> In fact, he claimed, he felt so vulnerable to the threat from "fanatic"
> leaders in Tehran that he would have been prepared to seek a "security
> agreement with the United States to protect [Iraq] from threats in the
> region," according to declassified accounts of the interviews released on
> Wednesday and published in the Washington Post

Old news, I remember this coming out before he was hanged.

Anything Saddam said in the shadow of the gallows should be viewed with 
suspicion, since he was obviously going for posterity and not much else 
,,, But I think everyone knows there was some long time tension between 
the two countries, is this a news flash or something ?

If he indeed wanted a "security agreement with the United States to 
protect [Iraq] from threats in the region,", a good place to have 
started, one would think, would have been to comply with UN security 
resolutions.
date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:09:44 -0400   author:   Jesse

Re: Saddam Hussein 'more scared of Iran than the US'   
Robin T Cox wrote in
news:v7%2m.50341$OO7.35408@text.news.virginmedia.com: 

> Saddam Hussein let the world believe Iraq had weapons of mass
> destruction because he did not want to appear weak to Iran, according
> to the Washington Post.
> 

So you finally agree that Saddam misled the world to believe he had WMD, 
thus justifying the actions of the coalition.
date: 04 Jul 2009 14:45:17 GMT   author:   Sydney of Astatula

Re: Saddam Hussein 'more scared of Iran than the US'   
Sydney of Astatula wrote:

> Robin T Cox wrote in
> news:v7%2m.50341$OO7.35408@text.news.virginmedia.com:
> 
>> Saddam Hussein let the world believe Iraq had weapons of mass
>> destruction because he did not want to appear weak to Iran, according
>> to the Washington Post.
>> 
> 
> So you finally agree that Saddam misled the world to believe he had WMD,
> thus justifying the actions of the coalition.

No. I drew attention to the article in which it states that it is the
Washington Post's view. 

Of course, as a US organ, the Post might be quite keen to justify
the 'coalition's' actions in this way.

But the point is worth discussion.

-- 
Facts are sacred ... but comment is free
date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:18:03 GMT   author:   Robin T Cox

Re: Saddam Hussein 'more scared of Iran than the US'   
In message , Sydney of Astatula
 writes
>Robin T Cox wrote in
>news:v7%2m.50341$OO7.35408@text.news.virginmedia.com:
>
>> Saddam Hussein let the world believe Iraq had weapons of mass
>> destruction because he did not want to appear weak to Iran, according
>> to the Washington Post.
>>
>
>So you finally agree that Saddam misled the world to believe he had WMD,
>thus justifying the actions of the coalition.

No.

-- 
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:46:09 +0100   author:   Chris H

Re: Saddam Hussein 'more scared of Iran than the US'   
Chris H  wrote in news:wr96MeAx2ZUKFAX2
@phaedsys.demon.co.uk:

> In message , Sydney of Astatula
>  writes
>>Robin T Cox wrote in
>>news:v7%2m.50341$OO7.35408@text.news.virginmedia.com:
>>
>>> Saddam Hussein let the world believe Iraq had weapons of mass
>>> destruction because he did not want to appear weak to Iran, according
>>> to the Washington Post.
>>>
>>
>>So you finally agree that Saddam misled the world to believe he had WMD,
>>thus justifying the actions of the coalition.
> 
> No.

T-shirt for Mr. Hills!

All the best,

John.
-- 
In what method shall we implement the matrix of this government display 
picnic?
-- Bill Bailey
date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:13:06 -0500   author:   John D Salt jdsalt_AT_gotadsl.co.uk

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