Olmert: Israel should pull out of West Bank
"The time has come to say these things" Olmert
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JERUSALEM Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said in an interview published on
Monday that Israel must withdraw from nearly all the West Bank as well as
East Jerusalem to attain peace with the Palestinians and that any
occupied land it held onto would have to be exchanged for the same
quantity of Israeli territory.
He also dismissed as megalomania any thought that Israel would or
should attack Iran on its own to stop it from developing nuclear weapons,
saying the international community and not Israel alone was charged with
handling the issue.
In an unusually frank and soul-searching interview granted after he
resigned to fight corruption charges he remains interim prime minister
until a new government is sworn in Mr. Olmert discarded longstanding
Israeli defense doctrine and called for radical new thinking in words
that are sure to stir controversy as his expected successor, Foreign
Minister Tzipi Livni, tries to build a coalition.
What I am saying to you now has not been said by any Israeli leader
before me, Mr. Olmert told Yediot Aharonot newspaper in the interview to
mark the Jewish new year that runs from Monday night till Wednesday
night. The time has come to say these things.
He said traditional Israeli defense strategists had learned nothing from
past experiences and seemed stuck in the considerations of the 1948
Independence War.
With them, it is all about tanks and land and controlling territories
and controlled territories and this hilltop and that hilltop, he said.
All these things are worthless.
He added, Who thinks seriously that if we sit on another hilltop, on
another hundred meters, that this is what will make the difference for
the State of Israels basic security?
Over the last year, Mr. Olmert has publicly castigated himself for his
earlier right-wing views and he did so again in this interview. On
Jerusalem, for example, he said, I am the first who wanted to enforce
Israeli sovereignty on the entire city. I admit it. I am not trying to
justify retroactively what I did for 35 years. For a large portion of
these years, I was unwilling to look at reality in all its depth.
He said that maintaining sovereignty over an undivided Jerusalem,
Israels official policy, would involve bringing 270,000 Palestinians
inside Israels security barrier. It would mean an ongoing risk of
terrorist attacks against civilians like those carried out earlier this
year by Jerusalem Palestinian residents with a bulldozer and earth mover.
A decision has to be made, he said. This decision is difficult,
terrible, a decision that contradicts our natural instincts, our
innermost desires, our collective memories, the prayers of the Jewish
people for 2,000 years.
The governments public stand on Jerusalem until now has been to assert
that the status of the city was not under discussion. But Mr. Olmert made
clear that the eastern, predominantly Arab, sector had to be yielded
with special solutions for the holy sites.
On peace with the Palestinians, Mr. Olmert said in the interview: We
face the need to decide but are not willing to tell ourselves, yes, this
is what we have to do. We have to reach an agreement with the
Palestinians, the meaning of which is that in practice we will withdraw
from almost all the territories, if not all the territories. We will
leave a percentage of these territories in our hands, but will have to
give the Palestinians a similar percentage, because without that there
will be no peace.
Elsewhere in the interview, when discussing a land swap with the
Palestinians, he said the exchange would have to be more or less one to
one.
Mr. Olmert also addressed the question of Syria, saying that Israel had
to be prepared to give up the Golan Heights but that in turn Damascus
knew it had to change the nature of its relationship with Iran and its
support for Hezbollah, the Lebanese militia.
On Iran, Mr. Olmert said Israel would act within the international
system, adding, Part of our megalomania and our loss of proportions is
the things that are said here about Iran. We are a country that has lost
a sense of proportion about itself.
Reaction from the Israeli right was swift. Avigdor Lieberman, who heads
the Yisrael Beiteinu party, said on the radio that Mr. Olmert was
endangering the existence of the State of Israel irresponsibly.
He added that those who thought Israels problem was a lack of defined
borders as Mr. Olmert stated in the interview are ignoramuses who
dont understand anything and they invite war.
As they reacted to Mr. Olmerts remarks, Palestinian negotiators said it
was satisfying to hear Mr. Olmerts words but they said the words did not
match what he had offered them so far. Yasser Abed Rabbo, a senior
Palestinian official, told Palestinian Radio that it would have been
better if Mr. Olmert had taken this position while in office rather than
while leaving it and that Mr. Olmert had not yet presented a detailed
plan for a border between Israel and a Palestinian state.
In theory, Mr. Olmert will continue peace negotiations while awaiting the
new government. But most analysts believe that, having been forced to
resign his post, he will not be able to close a deal.
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date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:12:26 GMT
author: basho007
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Re: Olmert: Israel should pull out of West Bank
"basho007"
>
> "The time has come to say these things" Olmert
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/world/middleeast/30olmert.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
>
>
> JERUSALEM - Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said in an interview published on
> Monday that Israel must withdraw from nearly all the West Bank as well as
> East Jerusalem to attain peace with the Palestinians and that any
> occupied land it held onto would have to be exchanged for the same
> quantity of Israeli territory.
Just some brief notes of my own ...
Personally I have never "recognized" any of the so-called settlements in the
West Bank or (formerly) the Gaza Strip.
The real reason why all the neighbouring Arab countries want to see a
Palestinian state, is that they want some place into which to dump their
pseudo-Palestinian pseudo-refugees. I don't blame them.
If the Israel military simply evacuates the West Bank overnight, Muslim
terrorists and aggressors of all shapes and sizes will immediately pour in
from all directions. It was different is Gaza, where Egypt and Israel now
collaborate in caging the Palestinians in, and keeping Iran-backed and
Arabian-backed terrorists out. Everybody knows that Palestinian self-rule is
a sick joke. Look at Gaza today. So an international policing force would be
needed in the West Bank, like the one that has been in Lebanon south of the
Litani River since Hizbullah's "victory" in 2006.
But ultimately the problem with the Pallies is the Pallies: Their whole
mentality and society are those of professional victims, wallowing in
self-pity, contributing nothing but hate and random violence to every place
they go.
date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:10:15 GMT
author: Larry Hammick
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Re: Olmert: Israel should pull out of West Bank
"Larry Hammick" wrote in message
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> "basho007"
>>
>> "The time has come to say these things" Olmert
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/world/middleeast/30olmert.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
>>
>>
>> JERUSALEM - Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said in an interview published on
>> Monday that Israel must withdraw from nearly all the West Bank as well as
>> East Jerusalem to attain peace with the Palestinians and that any
>> occupied land it held onto would have to be exchanged for the same
>> quantity of Israeli territory.
>
> Just some brief notes of my own ...
>
> Personally I have never "recognized" any of the so-called settlements in
> the West Bank or (formerly) the Gaza Strip.
>
> The real reason why all the neighbouring Arab countries want to see a
> Palestinian state, is that they want some place into which to dump their
> pseudo-Palestinian pseudo-refugees. I don't blame them.
>
> If the Israel military simply evacuates the West Bank overnight, Muslim
> terrorists and aggressors of all shapes and sizes will immediately pour in
> from all directions. It was different is Gaza, where Egypt and Israel now
> collaborate in caging the Palestinians in, and keeping Iran-backed and
> Arabian-backed terrorists out. Everybody knows that Palestinian self-rule
> is a sick joke. Look at Gaza today. So an international policing force
> would be needed in the West Bank, like the one that has been in Lebanon
> south of the Litani River since Hizbullah's "victory" in 2006.
>
> But ultimately the problem with the Pallies is the Pallies: Their whole
> mentality and society are those of professional victims, wallowing in
> self-pity, contributing nothing but hate and random violence to every
> place they go.
"Professional victims" ? Now who does that remind me of?
>
>
date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 01:26:34 +0200
author: Bill Again
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