http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7627135.stm

A massive bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's capital, 
Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.

The BBC's Barbara Plett, who is at the scene, says the blast created a 20ft 
(6m) deep crater, and destroyed the entire front section of the hotel.

.........

The explosion is thought to have been caused by more than a tonne of 
explosives. Police are warning that the hotel could collapse.

.........

A huge area of the 290-room hotel remains on fire hours after the explosion.

The BBC's Barbara Plett says the emergency services have been unable to 
reach the upper floors of the hotel, where more people are feared to be 
trapped.

(more)

TWP wrote:

> A massive bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's capital,
> Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.

Oh well, that's fucked my weekend dinner plans.

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"Robin T Cox"  wrote in message 
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> TWP wrote:
>
>> A massive bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's capital,
>> Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.
>
> Oh well, that's fucked my weekend dinner plans.
>

The place was known for it's good security too.  The terrorists couldn't get 
near the place, so they just used a bigger bomb.  There's ingenuity at work.

TWP

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> > TWP wrote:
> >
> >> A massive bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's
> >> capital, Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.
> >
> > Oh well, that's fucked my weekend dinner plans.
> 
> The place was known for it's good security too.  The terrorists
> couldn't get  near the place, so they just used a bigger bomb. 
> There's ingenuity at work.  

Do you think it was a bigoted strike against Mormons; an over-the-top
protest about the rates for a room; canny rival hotel employees
drumming up some lucrative business for the flocks of investigators
and the other types of seekers of truths that will all require food
and lodging whilst investigating the elimination of a competitor?


Regards,

Scott



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>> > TWP wrote:
>> >
>> >> A massive bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's
>> >> capital, Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.
>> >
>> > Oh well, that's fucked my weekend dinner plans.
>>
>> The place was known for it's good security too.  The terrorists
>> couldn't get  near the place, so they just used a bigger bomb.
>> There's ingenuity at work.
>
> Do you think it was a bigoted strike against Mormons; an over-the-top
> protest about the rates for a room; canny rival hotel employees
> drumming up some lucrative business for the flocks of investigators
> and the other types of seekers of truths that will all require food
> and lodging whilst investigating the elimination of a competitor?



Well, I think if I were a Western journalist covering this story I think 
I'd give any major hotels a miss.

I don't get why they chose the end of Ramadan when there were 200 Muslims 
having something to eat after their fast to blow the place up.

TWP

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>> wrote in message :
>>> "Robin T Cox"  wrote in message
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>>> > TWP wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> A massive bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's
>>> >> capital, Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.
>>> >
>>> > Oh well, that's fucked my weekend dinner plans.
>>>
>>> The place was known for it's good security too.  The terrorists
>>> couldn't get  near the place, so they just used a bigger bomb.
>>> There's ingenuity at work.
>>
>> Do you think it was a bigoted strike against Mormons; an over-the-top
>> protest about the rates for a room; canny rival hotel employees
>> drumming up some lucrative business for the flocks of investigators
>> and the other types of seekers of truths that will all require food
>> and lodging whilst investigating the elimination of a competitor?
>
>
>
> Well, I think if I were a Western journalist covering this story I think 
> I'd give any major hotels a miss.
>
> I don't get why they chose the end of Ramadan when there were 200 Muslims 
> having something to eat after their fast to blow the place up.
>
> TWP
>
>
>

Fox News have heard that the President and Prime Minister of Pakistan were 
due to be at the Ramadan dinner, but the plan was changed at the last 
minute.

TWP

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[...]
> > Well, I think if I were a Western journalist covering this story
> > I think  I'd give any major hotels a miss.
> >
> > I don't get why they chose the end of Ramadan when there were 200
> > Muslims  having something to eat after their fast to blow the
> > place up. 
> >
> > TWP
> >
> 
> Fox News have heard that the President and Prime Minister of
> Pakistan were  due to be at the Ramadan dinner, but the plan was
> changed at the last  minute.
> 
> TWP

Someone obviously caught wind of the nefarious plot by the Islamic
students of, "Habib's Halal Hostelry For Nervous Journalists And
Current Heads Of State."


Regards,

Scott



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>
> [...]
>> > Well, I think if I were a Western journalist covering this story
>> > I think  I'd give any major hotels a miss.
>> >
>> > I don't get why they chose the end of Ramadan when there were 200
>> > Muslims  having something to eat after their fast to blow the
>> > place up.
>> >
>> > TWP
>> >
>>
>> Fox News have heard that the President and Prime Minister of
>> Pakistan were  due to be at the Ramadan dinner, but the plan was
>> changed at the last  minute.
>>
>> TWP
>
> Someone obviously caught wind of the nefarious plot by the Islamic
> students of, "Habib's Halal Hostelry For Nervous Journalists And
> Current Heads Of State."
>

I'd definately be a nervous journalist!  Have you seen the crater?  30 feet 
wide and around 25 feet deep.  You could put a roof on that hole and live in 
it.

Someone must have qualified for a bulk order discount on explosives.

TWP

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:25:03 +0100, "TWP" 
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[...] 
> I'd definately be a nervous journalist!  Have you seen the crater? 
> 30 feet  wide and around 25 feet deep.  You could put a roof on
> that hole and live in  it.

Yes, I've seen the news clips off and on all morning and afternoon.
 
> Someone must have qualified for a bulk order discount on
> explosives.  
> 
> TWP

It was the taliban. Lower case; fullstop.


On a happier note, the motorcycle parts have arrived so it's off to
the garage to make some repairs!



Regards,

Scott <No longer involuntarily Sargasso'd :>



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>>
>> [...]
>>> > Well, I think if I were a Western journalist covering this story
>>> > I think  I'd give any major hotels a miss.
>>> >
>>> > I don't get why they chose the end of Ramadan when there were 200
>>> > Muslims  having something to eat after their fast to blow the
>>> > place up.
>>> >
>>> > TWP
>>> >
>>>
>>> Fox News have heard that the President and Prime Minister of
>>> Pakistan were  due to be at the Ramadan dinner, but the plan was
>>> changed at the last  minute.
>>>
>>> TWP
>>
>> Someone obviously caught wind of the nefarious plot by the Islamic
>> students of, "Habib's Halal Hostelry For Nervous Journalists And
>> Current Heads Of State."
>>
>
> I'd definately be a nervous journalist!  Have you seen the crater?  30 
> feet wide and around 25 feet deep.  You could put a roof on that hole and 
> live in it.
>
> Someone must have qualified for a bulk order discount on explosives.
>
> TWP

It was the curry! Quick nurse, the screens!

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> [...]
>> I'd definately be a nervous journalist!  Have you seen the crater?
>> 30 feet  wide and around 25 feet deep.  You could put a roof on
>> that hole and live in  it.
>
> Yes, I've seen the news clips off and on all morning and afternoon.
>
>> Someone must have qualified for a bulk order discount on
>> explosives.
>>
>> TWP
>
> It was the taliban. Lower case; fullstop.
>
>
> On a happier note, the motorcycle parts have arrived so it's off to
> the garage to make some repairs!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott <No longer involuntarily Sargasso'd :>
>
>


Ah, but you still have to get them attached without having loads of parts 
left over that shouldn't be!


TWP

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> Ah, but you still have to get them attached without having loads of
> parts  left over that shouldn't be!
> 
> 
> TWP

I do not have parts left over that should not be - ever. On a
motorcycle that will kill you quicker than a soccer mom with an SUV
and a mobile phone and I already have enough problems just keeping
the shiny side up and the rubber side down!


Regards,

Scott



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> [...]
>> Ah, but you still have to get them attached without having loads of
>> parts  left over that shouldn't be!
>>
>>
>> TWP
>
> I do not have parts left over that should not be - ever. On a
> motorcycle that will kill you quicker than a soccer mom with an SUV
> and a mobile phone and I already have enough problems just keeping
> the shiny side up and the rubber side down!
>
>

I was once in hostpital with someone who kept having parts left over when he 
did a bit of do-it-yourself... his fingers.  He'd already had to have a 
thumb re-attached on account of someone calling his name while he was using 
a power saw.

I think he took inspiration from this guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF14UmhMPEY

TWP

TWP wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7627135.stm
> 
> A massive bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's capital, 
> Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.
> 
> The BBC's Barbara Plett, who is at the scene, says the blast created a 20ft 
> (6m) deep crater, and destroyed the entire front section of the hotel.
> 
> .........
> 
> The explosion is thought to have been caused by more than a tonne of 
> explosives. Police are warning that the hotel could collapse.
> 
> .........
> 
> A huge area of the 290-room hotel remains on fire hours after the explosion.
> 
> The BBC's Barbara Plett says the emergency services have been unable to 
> reach the upper floors of the hotel, where more people are feared to be 
> trapped.
> 
> (more)
> 
* The silence is deafening*

No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many innocent 
children were blown up, I wonder why ?

If this was a Predator attack and 18 terrorists were blown up, along 
with say 3 females and 4 children, they'd be here screaming bloody 
murder ... But muslim radicals can attack a soft civilian target with 
the sure advance knowledge that dozens of innocents will die [and they 
did..] - And all we get is an uncharacteristic wall of silence from 
Hippy, and a smart ass mocking wisecrack from Robin about his ruined 
dinner plans, which as good as says he is damn glad it happened. Just 
made your day, did it ?

Pretty damn pathetic, and if someone near and dear to you ever meets 
with a violent end, I hope you will be prepared to hear some jokes about 
it, sick motherfucker.

In the mean time, have a look around here http://www.unseenwar.com/ and 
lets see if you are still in the laughing mood.

On Sep 20, 2:03 pm, "TWP"  wrote:
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> >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:32:19 퍝, "TWP" 
> >> wrote in message :
> >>> "Robin T Cox"  wrote in message
> >>>news:r6bBk.60708$E41.13602@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> >>> > TWP wrote:
>
> >>> >> A massive bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's
> >>> >> capital, Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.
>
> >>> > Oh well, that's fucked my weekend dinner plans.
>
> >>> The place was known for it's good security too.  The terrorists
> >>> couldn't get  near the place, so they just used a bigger bomb.
> >>> There's ingenuity at work.
>
> >> Do you think it was a bigoted strike against Mormons; an over-the-top
> >> protest about the rates for a room; canny rival hotel employees
> >> drumming up some lucrative business for the flocks of investigators
> >> and the other types of seekers of truths that will all require food
> >> and lodging whilst investigating the elimination of a competitor?
>
> > Well, I think if I were a Western journalist covering this story I think
> > I'd give any major hotels a miss.
>
> > I don't get why they chose the end of Ramadan when there were 200 Muslims
> > having something to eat after their fast to blow the place up.
>
> > TWP
>
> Fox News have heard that the President and Prime Minister of Pakistan were
> due to be at the Ramadan dinner, but the plan was changed at the last
> minute.
>
> TWP

Well, it shows that the intelligence apparatus of the terrorists is
limited!  Or that their communication is limited!

Jesse wrote:

> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many innocent
> children were blown up, I wonder why ?

Let me enlighten you.

I don't expect terrorists to care about how many kids they kill.

I do expect those who claim to be the good guys, and to be operating on
behalf of the innocent, to care a great deal and take every precaution to
avoid civilian death and injury. I don't expect them to descend into the
gutter and behalf like terrorists themselves, and then turn round and claim
that they are defenders of civilisation.

And if, as you claim, you have done military service, you would know that.

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"Jesse"  wrote ...

> TWP wrote:
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7627135.stm
> >
> > A massive bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's capital,
> > Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.
> >
> > The BBC's Barbara Plett, who is at the scene, says the blast created a
20ft
> > (6m) deep crater, and destroyed the entire front section of the hotel.
> >
> > .........
> >
> > The explosion is thought to have been caused by more than a tonne of
> > explosives. Police are warning that the hotel could collapse.
> >
> > .........
> >
> > A huge area of the 290-room hotel remains on fire hours after the
explosion.
> >
> > The BBC's Barbara Plett says the emergency services have been unable to
> > reach the upper floors of the hotel, where more people are feared to be
> > trapped.
> >
> > (more)
> >
> * The silence is deafening*
>
> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many innocent
> children were blown up, I wonder why ?

Because no one is trying to sell this bombing and murder as a "good thing"
and everyone except those behind it can see that it isn't.

That is in contrast to American actions where it seems you are entirely
happy to see innocent children murdered because I don't hear a peep out of
you when they are, and you and others cheer on that American murder
regardless of how many innocent people are killed.

For comparitative purposes; how many innocents were killed in the Marriott
Hotel murder ( seems to be somewhere between 40 and 60, possibly higher )
and how many innocents have been killed in US attacks carried out on
Pakistani territory ?

I look forward to your answer as it will show whether you actually care
about murdered innocents or were just angling for some cheap point scoring.

Robin T Cox wrote:
> Jesse wrote:
> 
>> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many innocent
>> children were blown up, I wonder why ?
> 
> Let me enlighten you.
> 
> I don't expect terrorists to care about how many kids they kill.

Oh fuck you right there you sanctimonious little bastard - You 
personally mocked the death of innocents, has nothing to do with who 
killed who.
You more than gave yourself away by crudely poking fun at victims of 
muslim extremists - You have evolved into the biggest fan boy of 
terrorists on this board, and now you make a cheap attempt to cover your 
tracks.

Had you any shame or conscience, you would feel lower than whale shit 
for what you said, and now you just try to stutter your way out of it.

Dozens of people brutally murdered, no doubt dozens more terribly maimed 
and perhaps clinging to life as we speak - Hundreds of concerned family 
members and friends, some perhaps could even reading here, grieving and 
praying.
And your thoughts about all of this ?
Well gee, there goes my breakfast plans, ha ha !

Remarkably heartless and intentionally crude, by any standards - And I 
request that you man up and either admit that you fucked up by not 
thinking before you post and make light of mass murder, or admit that 
you are in fact glad that they are dead.

Jesse wrote:

> Robin T Cox wrote:
>> Jesse wrote:
>> 
>>> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many innocent
>>> children were blown up, I wonder why ?
>> 
>> Let me enlighten you.
>> 
>> I don't expect terrorists to care about how many kids they kill.
> 
> Oh fuck you right there you sanctimonious little bastard - You
> personally mocked the death of innocents, has nothing to do with who
> killed who.
> You more than gave yourself away by crudely poking fun at victims of
> muslim extremists - You have evolved into the biggest fan boy of
> terrorists on this board, and now you make a cheap attempt to cover your
> tracks.
> 
> Had you any shame or conscience, you would feel lower than whale shit
> for what you said, and now you just try to stutter your way out of it.
> 
> Dozens of people brutally murdered, no doubt dozens more terribly maimed
> and perhaps clinging to life as we speak - Hundreds of concerned family
> members and friends, some perhaps could even reading here, grieving and
> praying.
> And your thoughts about all of this ?
> Well gee, there goes my breakfast plans, ha ha !
> 
> Remarkably heartless and intentionally crude, by any standards - And I
> request that you man up and either admit that you fucked up by not
> thinking before you post and make light of mass murder, or admit that
> you are in fact glad that they are dead.

Such an outburst of self-righteous indignation on behalf of dead Muslims is
very welcome, dear boy.

I do hope we shall hear more of you in this vein when your US drones kill a
few more. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

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The Happy Hippy wrote:
> "Jesse"  wrote ...
> 
>> TWP wrote:
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7627135.stm
>>>
>>> A massive bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's capital,
>>> Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.
>>>
>>> The BBC's Barbara Plett, who is at the scene, says the blast created a
> 20ft
>>> (6m) deep crater, and destroyed the entire front section of the hotel.
>>>
>>> .........
>>>
>>> The explosion is thought to have been caused by more than a tonne of
>>> explosives. Police are warning that the hotel could collapse.
>>>
>>> .........
>>>
>>> A huge area of the 290-room hotel remains on fire hours after the
> explosion.
>>> The BBC's Barbara Plett says the emergency services have been unable to
>>> reach the upper floors of the hotel, where more people are feared to be
>>> trapped.
>>>
>>> (more)
>>>
>> * The silence is deafening*
>>
>> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many innocent
>> children were blown up, I wonder why ?
> 
> Because no one is trying to sell this bombing and murder as a "good thing"
> and everyone except those behind it can see that it isn't.
> 
> That is in contrast to American actions where it seems you are entirely
> happy to see innocent children murdered because I don't hear a peep out of
> you when they are, and you and others cheer on that American murder
> regardless of how many innocent people are killed.

You couldn't find a post of mine expressing glee over dead children if 
your life depended on it, so you might as well stop that angle - 
Particularly since your idealogical soul mate Robin is guilty of just 
that in this very thread.

> For comparitative purposes; how many innocents were killed in the Marriott
> Hotel murder ( seems to be somewhere between 40 and 60, possibly higher )
> and how many innocents have been killed in US attacks carried out on
> Pakistani territory ?
> 
> I look forward to your answer as it will show whether you actually care
> about murdered innocents or were just angling for some cheap point scoring.

I suppose if you knew the answer you would have posted it, and you 
expect me to know ... Why ?

In any case, we would first have to agree on a definition of "innocents".
I could issue a disingenuous blanket condemnation as per your style " I 
condemn the death of all innocents" blah blah, but I prefer to be a 
little more precise than that.

Robin T Cox wrote:
> Jesse wrote:
> 
>> Robin T Cox wrote:
>>> Jesse wrote:
>>>
>>>> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many innocent
>>>> children were blown up, I wonder why ?
>>> Let me enlighten you.
>>>
>>> I don't expect terrorists to care about how many kids they kill.
>> Oh fuck you right there you sanctimonious little bastard - You
>> personally mocked the death of innocents, has nothing to do with who
>> killed who.
>> You more than gave yourself away by crudely poking fun at victims of
>> muslim extremists - You have evolved into the biggest fan boy of
>> terrorists on this board, and now you make a cheap attempt to cover your
>> tracks.
>>
>> Had you any shame or conscience, you would feel lower than whale shit
>> for what you said, and now you just try to stutter your way out of it.
>>
>> Dozens of people brutally murdered, no doubt dozens more terribly maimed
>> and perhaps clinging to life as we speak - Hundreds of concerned family
>> members and friends, some perhaps could even reading here, grieving and
>> praying.
>> And your thoughts about all of this ?
>> Well gee, there goes my breakfast plans, ha ha !
>>
>> Remarkably heartless and intentionally crude, by any standards - And I
>> request that you man up and either admit that you fucked up by not
>> thinking before you post and make light of mass murder, or admit that
>> you are in fact glad that they are dead.
> 
> Such an outburst of self-righteous indignation on behalf of dead Muslims is
> very welcome, dear boy.
> 
> I do hope we shall hear more of you in this vein when your US drones kill a
> few more. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

I'm doubting that they were all muslims ... In any case, your refusal to 
man up is no surprise, the shameless obviously have no shame.
I wish you would try holding your breath, about 40 minutes would do.

"Jesse"  wrote ...

> >> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many
innocent
> >> children were blown up, I wonder why ?
> >
> > Because no one is trying to sell this bombing and murder as a "good
thing"
> > and everyone except those behind it can see that it isn't.
> >
> > That is in contrast to American actions where it seems you are entirely
> > happy to see innocent children murdered because I don't hear a peep out
of
> > you when they are, and you and others cheer on that American murder
> > regardless of how many innocent people are killed.
>
> You couldn't find a post of mine expressing glee over dead children if
> your life depended on it, so you might as well stop that angle -

I never said you made such posts but a brave attempt to go off at a tangent.

The point is that you never complain of any deaths of innocent children by
US forces and yet you complain that others do not criticise the deaths of
innocent children here. You're a hypocrite Jesse, always have been, always
will be.


> In any case, we would first have to agree on a definition of "innocents".

You are talking of "innocent children" and that's not really hard to define.


> I could issue a disingenuous blanket condemnation as per your style " I
> condemn the death of all innocents" blah blah, but I prefer to be a
> little more precise than that.

No, you prefer not to say anything at all. How can anything be more precise
than, "I condemn the death of all innocents" ?

You are explicitly saying there are deaths of innocents you won't condemn.
That's precisely my point. You have no worry or concern over the death of
innocent people, that's fine in your book. Just like it is in the
terrorists' book. You are exactly the same as they are Jesse.

The Happy Hippy wrote:
> "Jesse"  wrote ...
> 
>>>> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many
> innocent
>>>> children were blown up, I wonder why ?
>>> Because no one is trying to sell this bombing and murder as a "good
> thing"
>>> and everyone except those behind it can see that it isn't.
>>>
>>> That is in contrast to American actions where it seems you are entirely
>>> happy to see innocent children murdered because I don't hear a peep out
> of
>>> you when they are, and you and others cheer on that American murder
>>> regardless of how many innocent people are killed.
>> You couldn't find a post of mine expressing glee over dead children if
>> your life depended on it, so you might as well stop that angle -
> 
> I never said you made such posts but a brave attempt to go off at a tangent.

You said that I am entirely happy to see innocent children murdered, 
either prove it with my past words or STFU

> The point is that you never complain of any deaths of innocent children by
> US forces and yet you complain that others do not criticise the deaths of
> innocent children here. You're a hypocrite Jesse, always have been, always
> will be.

Fair enough, then by your very own definition you are a hypocrite as 
well, and a world class one.
But we already knew that.


>> In any case, we would first have to agree on a definition of "innocents".
> 
> You are talking of "innocent children" and that's not really hard to define.

I said "innocents", moron.
Do try to work on your reading comprehension, especially if you are quoting.

>> I could issue a disingenuous blanket condemnation as per your style " I
>> condemn the death of all innocents" blah blah, but I prefer to be a
>> little more precise than that.
> 
> No, you prefer not to say anything at all. How can anything be more precise
> than, "I condemn the death of all innocents" ?

Very precise - For those not familiar with your word play, bullshit 
tactics and past history.
To those of us who are, its nothing but a disingenuous blanket 
condemnation as per your style, as already stated.
Merely your cheap attempt to claim some form of impartiality with 0 
commitment, nothing more, nothing less.

> You are explicitly saying there are deaths of innocents you won't condemn.

Yes.
Aren't you going to ask who, and why ?
Seems you are getting a bit wary, sense some kind of snare coming up ?

"Jesse"  wrote ...

> The Happy Hippy wrote:
> > "Jesse"  wrote ...
> >
> >>>> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many
> > innocent
> >>>> children were blown up, I wonder why ?
> >>> Because no one is trying to sell this bombing and murder as a "good
> > thing"
> >>> and everyone except those behind it can see that it isn't.
> >>>
> >>> That is in contrast to American actions where it seems you are
entirely
> >>> happy to see innocent children murdered because I don't hear a peep
out
> > of
> >>> you when they are, and you and others cheer on that American murder
> >>> regardless of how many innocent people are killed.
> >> You couldn't find a post of mine expressing glee over dead children if
> >> your life depended on it, so you might as well stop that angle -
> >
> > I never said you made such posts but a brave attempt to go off at a
tangent.
>
> You said that I am entirely happy to see innocent children murdered,
> either prove it with my past words or STFU

I said, "it seems you are entirely happy to see innocent children murdered",
it's in the paragraph above. Perhaps you'd STFU but keep digging your hole
if you want to. You seem determined to prove your lack of comprehension
skills today.



> > You are explicitly saying there are deaths of innocents you won't
condemn.
>
> Yes.
> Aren't you going to ask who, and why ?

Which deaths of innocents will you not condemn ? Which innocents do you
believe are deserving of death ?

Or if you're going to pedantic, yes, "who and why".


> Seems you are getting a bit wary, sense some kind of snare coming up ?

Seems to be your over-active imagination at work. I'm not wary of anything
( except your usual shenanigans of deliberately twisting things and knowing
your lack of comprehension skills means that even the simplest most obvious
statement can be or will be misinterpreted when you read it ). I don't sense
any kind of snare coming up. Perhaps you'll enlighten me, maybe even
surprise or impress me, with such a snare but I doubt it.

The Happy Hippy wrote:
> "Jesse"  wrote ...
> 
>> The Happy Hippy wrote:
>>> "Jesse"  wrote ...
>>>
>>>>>> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many
>>> innocent
>>>>>> children were blown up, I wonder why ?
>>>>> Because no one is trying to sell this bombing and murder as a "good
>>> thing"
>>>>> and everyone except those behind it can see that it isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is in contrast to American actions where it seems you are
> entirely
>>>>> happy to see innocent children murdered because I don't hear a peep
> out
>>> of
>>>>> you when they are, and you and others cheer on that American murder
>>>>> regardless of how many innocent people are killed.
>>>> You couldn't find a post of mine expressing glee over dead children if
>>>> your life depended on it, so you might as well stop that angle -
>>> I never said you made such posts but a brave attempt to go off at a
> tangent.
>> You said that I am entirely happy to see innocent children murdered,
>> either prove it with my past words or STFU
> 
> I said, "it seems you are entirely happy to see innocent children murdered",
> it's in the paragraph above. Perhaps you'd STFU but keep digging your hole
> if you want to. You seem determined to prove your lack of comprehension
> skills today.

"Digging holes" "no comprehension" *BORING BORING BORING* If that is all 
you can stammer on about, why even bother ?
> 
> 
> 
>>> You are explicitly saying there are deaths of innocents you won't
> condemn.
>> Yes.
>> Aren't you going to ask who, and why ?
> 
> Which deaths of innocents will you not condemn ? Which innocents do you
> believe are deserving of death ?
> 
> Or if you're going to pedantic, yes, "who and why".
> 
> 
>> Seems you are getting a bit wary, sense some kind of snare coming up ?
> 
> Seems to be your over-active imagination at work. I'm not wary of anything
> ( except your usual shenanigans of deliberately twisting things and knowing
> your lack of comprehension skills means that even the simplest most obvious
> statement can be or will be misinterpreted when you read it ). I don't sense
> any kind of snare coming up. Perhaps you'll enlighten me, maybe even
> surprise or impress me, with such a snare but I doubt it.

Sorry hip, not in the mood for your childish hijinks today.
Sometimes I actually am, not today though.
You are proving yourself perfectly incapable of an adult debate, I will 
not be the one to indulge you.

"Jesse"  realising he'd really got in the shit ducked and dived
with ...

> >>> You are explicitly saying there are deaths of innocents you won't
> > condemn.
> >> Yes.
> >> Aren't you going to ask who, and why ?
> >
> > Which deaths of innocents will you not condemn ? Which innocents do you
> > believe are deserving of death ?
> >
> > Or if you're going to pedantic, yes, "who and why".
> >
> >
> >> Seems you are getting a bit wary, sense some kind of snare coming up ?
> >
> > Seems to be your over-active imagination at work. I'm not wary of
anything
> > ( except your usual shenanigans of deliberately twisting things and
knowing
> > your lack of comprehension skills means that even the simplest most
obvious
> > statement can be or will be misinterpreted when you read it ). I don't
sense
> > any kind of snare coming up. Perhaps you'll enlighten me, maybe even
> > surprise or impress me, with such a snare but I doubt it.
>
> Sorry hip, not in the mood for your childish hijinks today.
> Sometimes I actually am, not today though.
> You are proving yourself perfectly incapable of an adult debate, I will
> not be the one to indulge you.

Seems you've belatedly realised if there are any snares you have set them
for yourself and have decided to bale out. You're a joke Jesse.

Not that it matters; your views are a matter of public record now.

Jesse  wrote in
news:NgfCk.160979$DI2.156526@fe02.news.easynews.com: 

> The Happy Hippy wrote:
>> "Jesse"  wrote ...
>> 
>>> The Happy Hippy wrote:
>>>> "Jesse"  wrote ...
>>>>
>>>>>>> No Robin or Hippy popping up here to cynically inquire how many
>>>> innocent
>>>>>>> children were blown up, I wonder why ?
>>>>>> Because no one is trying to sell this bombing and murder as a "good
>>>> thing"
>>>>>> and everyone except those behind it can see that it isn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is in contrast to American actions where it seems you are
>> entirely
>>>>>> happy to see innocent children murdered because I don't hear a peep
>> out
>>>> of
>>>>>> you when they are, and you and others cheer on that American murder
>>>>>> regardless of how many innocent people are killed.
>>>>> You couldn't find a post of mine expressing glee over dead children
>>>>> if your life depended on it, so you might as well stop that angle -
>>>> I never said you made such posts but a brave attempt to go off at a
>> tangent.
>>> You said that I am entirely happy to see innocent children murdered,
>>> either prove it with my past words or STFU
>> 
>> I said, "it seems you are entirely happy to see innocent children
>> murdered", it's in the paragraph above. Perhaps you'd STFU but keep
>> digging your hole if you want to. You seem determined to prove your
>> lack of comprehension skills today.
> 
> "Digging holes" "no comprehension" *BORING BORING BORING* If that is all
> you can stammer on about, why even bother ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> You are explicitly saying there are deaths of innocents you won't
>> condemn.
>>> Yes.
>>> Aren't you going to ask who, and why ?
>> 
>> Which deaths of innocents will you not condemn ? Which innocents do you
>> believe are deserving of death ?
>> 
>> Or if you're going to pedantic, yes, "who and why".
>> 
>> 
>>> Seems you are getting a bit wary, sense some kind of snare coming up ?
>> 
>> Seems to be your over-active imagination at work. I'm not wary of
>> anything ( except your usual shenanigans of deliberately twisting
>> things and knowing your lack of comprehension skills means that even
>> the simplest most obvious statement can be or will be misinterpreted
>> when you read it ). I don't sense any kind of snare coming up. Perhaps
>> you'll enlighten me, maybe even surprise or impress me, with such a
>> snare but I doubt it. 
> 
> Sorry hip, not in the mood for your childish hijinks today.
> Sometimes I actually am, not today though.
> You are proving yourself perfectly incapable of an adult debate, I will 
> not be the one to indulge you.

Sorry to intrude, I am a long time lurker, names Joe USA.
I cannot help but to comment on the level of intellegence and patience, 
common sense and righteous patriotism that Jesse consistantly shows.
He is by far the best poster here, his posts are always accurate and make 
perfect sense, unlike the majority of muslim loving, leftist whining trash 
here.

I cannot see, Jesse, how you lower yourself to attempt debate with a gutter 
dweller like Hippy, but I give you much credit for trying to enlighten this 
common, lowly, mentally challenged knave.
He seems the type of guy that would need step by step instructions on how 
to leave his bed if it was on fire [And thats assuming that he even has a 
bed!] ... But your constant efforts to enlighten the weak of heart and 
criminally naive don't go unnoticed, I can assure you.

If you ever write a book or, better yet, run for public office, be sure to 
post your intentions, I am very sure of your success.
A man of your intellect and charactor can pick and chose - And that you 
chose to apply your efforts here on hopeless metal basket cases is greater 
than Mother Theresa feeding the destitute masses of 3rd world refuse, and 
speaks volumes of your kind heart, superior mind and benevolent, 
enlightening personality !

THREE CHEERS FOR JESSE  HURRAH !! HURRAH!! HURRAH!!
NO MAKE THAT FOUR HURRAAAHHH !!! 

For he's a jolly good fellow,
For he's a jolly good fellow,
For he's a jolly good fellow,
Which nob'dy can deny.
Which nob'dy can deny.
Which nob'dy can deny.
For he's a jolly good fellow,
For he's a jolly good fellow,
For he's a jolly good fellowwwwwww,
Which nob'dy can deny.

Joe USA