It's 8:30 AM here in Vancouver, I'm having my first of many coffees, I turn 
on the computer, and go to my email, to see what fresh threats and abuse 
have come in from terrorists and wannabes. So begins another day at the 
office.

:D

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:37:04 GMT, "Larry Hammick"
 wrote in message
<AM8Bk.767$T65.25@edtnps82>:

> It's 8:30 AM here in Vancouver, I'm having my first of many
> coffees, I turn  on the computer, and go to my email, to see what
> fresh threats and abuse  have come in from terrorists and wannabes.
> So begins another day at the  office.
> 
> :D 

Good morning, Larry!

As you're about the only remaining newsgroup participant that
actually makes regular, on-topic, posts, you have no doubt noticed
that almost all of the public traffic come from herds of wannabes,
groups of squirrels[1] and swarms of "Bridgestone bugs." 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCZbnyCnyes


Get a motorcycle! :D


Regards,

Scott

1. What is a group of squirrels called?
http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question80841.html




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"Larry Hammick"  wrote ...

> It's 8:30 AM here in Vancouver, I'm having my first of many coffees, I
turn
> on the computer, and go to my email, to see what fresh threats and abuse
> have come in from terrorists and wannabes. So begins another day at the
> office.
>
> :D

Sure, "office". As if you have any credibility as a member of the
intelligence services you'd like to portray yourself as being.

How about telling us whose office it is, who you're employed by and what
your role there is ?

It looks like you're reasonably good at maths ( I'll ignore those who say
your credentials there are weak ), so what do you reckon the odds are thet I
think you're talking out your arse and living in a self-made fantasy world ?

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:19:52 GMT, "The Happy Hippy"
 wrote in message
<YgaBk.60696$E41.17620@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
> "Larry Hammick"  wrote ...
> 
> > It's 8:30 AM here in Vancouver, I'm having my first of many
> > coffees, I turn on the computer, and go to my email, to see what
> > fresh threats and abuse have come in from terrorists and
> > wannabes. So begins another day at the office. 
> >
> > :D
> 
> Sure, "office". As if you have any credibility as a member of the
> intelligence services you'd like to portray yourself as being.  

Haps, you insist that everyone has free speech and may write and say
whatever they wish without _any_ recriminations and you are
ideologically opposed to national ID cards.

> How about telling us whose office it is, who you're employed by and
> what your role there is ?  

Erm, you are opposing your own ideology. Upon whose authority do you
or any other newsgroup participant(s) demand to see Larry's papers?

Northern Alberta Bug Study
http://xidos.ca/Bikes/RainbowLake/

> It looks like you're reasonably good at maths ( I'll ignore those
> who say your credentials there are weak ), so what do you reckon
> the odds are thet I think you're talking out your arse and living
> in a self-made fantasy world ?  

I see. Free speech only extends to speech with which you agree. Thank
you ever so much - your vigilance will keep the world safe!

Oh, by the way, there's a letter 'H' glowing right up there on your
foreheads Arnolds. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b35O8O_5ZM


Regards,

Scott



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3Phase wrote:

> Good morning, Larry!
> 
> As you're about the only remaining newsgroup participant that
> actually makes regular, on-topic, posts, you have no doubt noticed
> that almost all of the public traffic come from herds of wannabes,
> groups of squirrels[1] and swarms of "Bridgestone bugs."

Arsehole creeping will get you nowhere, 3Phase.

Larry is a very sad man, who imagines that all the world's against him.

No doubt you can sympathise, or else why would you use PGP to authenticate
your posts?

BTW apparently people who scare easily are more likely to be right wing
nuts.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nervous-people-are-likely-to-be-rightwing-935417.html
http://tinyurl.com/3kqbrq

-- 
Facts are sacred ... but comment is free

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:15:59 GMT, Robin T Cox 
wrote in message <z5bBk.60707$E41.52373@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
> 3Phase wrote:
> 
> > Good morning, Larry!
> > 
> > As you're about the only remaining newsgroup participant that
> > actually makes regular, on-topic, posts, you have no doubt
> > noticed that almost all of the public traffic come from herds of
> > wannabes, groups of squirrels[1] and swarms of "Bridgestone
> > bugs."
> 
> Arsehole creeping will get you nowhere, 3Phase.

Ah, yes, profanity. Rim^H^H^HRobin, your 'H' is glowing, but coming
from an unemployed professional defense bogsnorkeler I'll take that
as a compliment.
 
> Larry is a very sad man, who imagines that all the world's against
> him.  

As the sole, very sad, man whose first post to the public USENET
immediately following the UK's Nimrod tragedy in Afghanistan was all
about your personal wailing and moaning about almost universal
opposition to your lost contract opportunity with not a word of type
devoted to the lost crew or their families you are not in a position
to preach about anything except the relative merits of personal
amorality.

> No doubt you can sympathise, or else why would you use PGP to
> authenticate your posts?

I have already told you, personally, why I use PGP. If your memory is
as capacious as your voluminous, empty, flaming keyboard rhetoric you
will recall that it has nothing to do with your puerile suspicions
and everything to do with both long and short-term article integrity.
 
> BTW apparently people who scare easily are more likely to be right
> wing nuts.
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nervous-people-are-likely-
> to-be-rightwing-935417.html http://tinyurl.com/3kqbrq

That is fascinating and goes a long way to explain your (plural)
virtual 24/7 devotion to political rants and feeble attempts at
character assassination in a current-events newsgroup explicitly
placed by majority vote in a non-political hierarchy.

Carry on! :)


Regards,

Scott



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> 
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:15:59 GMT, Robin T Cox 
> wrote in message <z5bBk.60707$E41.52373@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
>> 3Phase wrote:
>> 
>> > Good morning, Larry!
>> > 
>> > As you're about the only remaining newsgroup participant that
>> > actually makes regular, on-topic, posts, you have no doubt
>> > noticed that almost all of the public traffic come from herds of
>> > wannabes, groups of squirrels[1] and swarms of "Bridgestone
>> > bugs."
>> 
>> Arsehole creeping will get you nowhere, 3Phase.
> 
> Ah, yes, profanity. Rim^H^H^HRobin, your 'H' is glowing, but coming
> from an unemployed professional defense bogsnorkeler I'll take that
> as a compliment.
>  

What on earth does Rim^H^H^H mean?

And since when was 'arsehole creeping' a profane expression?

Compliments must seldom come your way, obviously. Which is hardly
surprising.

>> Larry is a very sad man, who imagines that all the world's against
>> him.
> 
> As the sole, very sad, man whose first post to the public USENET
> immediately following the UK's Nimrod tragedy in Afghanistan was all
> about your personal wailing and moaning about almost universal
> opposition to your lost contract opportunity with not a word of type
> devoted to the lost crew or their families you are not in a position
> to preach about anything except the relative merits of personal
> amorality.
> 

You've been absent for a long long time, Scott, haven't you? And obviously
have a very clouded memory about the thread to which you refer.

As to my comments about Hammick, I'll match yours any day. If you seriously
think that Hammick is the 'only remaining newsgroup participant that
actually makes regular on-topic posts' then you are either arsehole
creeping or haven't been paying attention.

There now, I've said it again.

>> No doubt you can sympathise, or else why would you use PGP to
>> authenticate your posts?
> 
> I have already told you, personally, why I use PGP. If your memory is
> as capacious as your voluminous, empty, flaming keyboard rhetoric you
> will recall that it has nothing to do with your puerile suspicions
> and everything to do with both long and short-term article integrity.
>  

Since it has been quite some time since you stuck your head above the
parapet, why don't you remind the rest of the folks why you, apart form
just about everyone else on the newsgroup, chooses to use PGP to sign their
posts. After all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery isn't it?
Although I really can't think who would want to imitate you.

>> BTW apparently people who scare easily are more likely to be right
>> wing nuts.
>>
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nervous-people-are-likely-
>> to-be-rightwing-935417.html http://tinyurl.com/3kqbrq
> 
> That is fascinating and goes a long way to explain your (plural)
> virtual 24/7 devotion to political rants and feeble attempts at
> character assassination in a current-events newsgroup explicitly
> placed by majority vote in a non-political hierarchy.
> 

Not character assassination, Scott. Fair comment.

And what on earth you mean by 'a current-events newsgroup explicitly placed
by majority vote in a non-political hierarchy' perhaps, again, you would
care to explain.

> Carry on! :)
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
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"3Phase"  wrote ...

> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:19:52 GMT, "The Happy Hippy"
>  wrote in message
> <YgaBk.60696$E41.17620@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
> > "Larry Hammick"  wrote ...
> >
> > > It's 8:30 AM here in Vancouver, I'm having my first of many
> > > coffees, I turn on the computer, and go to my email, to see what
> > > fresh threats and abuse have come in from terrorists and
> > > wannabes. So begins another day at the office.
> > >
> > > :D
> >
> > Sure, "office". As if you have any credibility as a member of the
> > intelligence services you'd like to portray yourself as being.
>
> Haps, you insist that everyone has free speech and may write and say
> whatever they wish without _any_ recriminations

Where have I ever said that ? You're making this up as you go along.


> and you are ideologically opposed to national ID cards.

WTF has that to do with the price of fish ?


> > How about telling us whose office it is, who you're employed by and
> > what your role there is ?
>
> Erm, you are opposing your own ideology.

And what ideology would that be ?


> Upon whose authority do you
> or any other newsgroup participant(s) demand to see Larry's papers?

No "demand" there at all, just a request which Larry is free to take up or
not, and everyone else is free to draw their conclusions from however it
pans out.


> Northern Alberta Bug Study
> http://xidos.ca/Bikes/RainbowLake/
>
> > It looks like you're reasonably good at maths ( I'll ignore those
> > who say your credentials there are weak ), so what do you reckon
> > the odds are thet I think you're talking out your arse and living
> > in a self-made fantasy world ?
>
> I see. Free speech only extends to speech with which you agree. Thank
> you ever so much - your vigilance will keep the world safe!

How am I denying free speech ?


> Oh, by the way, there's a letter 'H' glowing right up there on your
> foreheads Arnolds.

You're off your meds again arn't you.

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:59:41 GMT, Robin T Cox 
wrote in message <1vdBk.60769$E41.39050@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
> 3Phase wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:15:59 GMT, Robin T Cox 
> > wrote in message
> > <z5bBk.60707$E41.52373@text.news.virginmedia.com>: 
> >> 3Phase wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Good morning, Larry!
> >> > 
> >> > As you're about the only remaining newsgroup participant that
> >> > actually makes regular, on-topic, posts, you have no doubt
> >> > noticed that almost all of the public traffic come from herds
> >> > of wannabes, groups of squirrels[1] and swarms of "Bridgestone
> >> > bugs."
> >> 
> >> Arsehole creeping will get you nowhere, 3Phase.
> > 
> > Ah, yes, profanity. Rim^H^H^HRobin, your 'H' is glowing, but
> > coming from an unemployed professional defense bogsnorkeler I'll
> > take that as a compliment.
> >  
> 
> What on earth does Rim^H^H^H mean?

Arnold Judas Rimmer, or "Rimmah!". I was attempting to be polite but
humourous.

> And since when was 'arsehole creeping' a profane expression?

'Arsehole creeping' is profane in any company but your own. As you
have chosen profanity you may have the full measure in return,
bogsnorkeler.
 
> Compliments must seldom come your way, obviously. Which is hardly
> surprising.

I both receive and return sincere compliments all the time.
 
> >> Larry is a very sad man, who imagines that all the world's
> >> against him.
> > 
> > As the sole, very sad, man whose first post to the public USENET
> > immediately following the UK's Nimrod tragedy in Afghanistan was
> > all about your personal wailing and moaning about almost
> > universal opposition to your lost contract opportunity with not a
> > word of type devoted to the lost crew or their families you are
> > not in a position to preach about anything except the relative
> > merits of personal amorality.
> 
> You've been absent for a long long time, Scott, haven't you? And
> obviously have a very clouded memory about the thread to which you
> refer.

Don't try to hop up on your 'longstanding poster' platform in front
of me or I shall be forced to pelt thee with sleeping parrots,
cretin!

I do read and catch up on the 'group but most of the time it's
same-same for months and I have no comment. If it will make you feel
better you may imagine for yourself my followups to the flame-bait
you post as news and fair comment.

Please insert the standard disingenuous pithy followup about
profanity, ad homs, ambassadors, Yanks and Canadians in this space
 ---> []

If they're new and particularly witty you may use the long form
 ---> [ ]

> As to my comments about Hammick, I'll match yours any day. If you
> seriously think that Hammick is the 'only remaining newsgroup
> participant that actually makes regular on-topic posts' then you
> are either arsehole creeping or haven't been paying attention.
> 
> There now, I've said it again.

As expectorated.
 
> >> No doubt you can sympathise, or else why would you use PGP to
> >> authenticate your posts?
> > 
> > I have already told you, personally, why I use PGP. If your
> > memory is as capacious as your voluminous, empty, flaming
> > keyboard rhetoric you will recall that it has nothing to do with
> > your puerile suspicions and everything to do with both long and
> > short-term article integrity. 
> 
> Since it has been quite some time since you stuck your head above
> the parapet, why don't you remind the rest of the folks why you,
> apart form just about everyone else on the newsgroup, chooses to
> use PGP to sign their posts. After all, imitation is the sincerest
> form of flattery isn't it? Although I really can't think who would
> want to imitate you.

Why don't you look it up for yourself. It will give you something to
do besides moaning through your hat.

> >> BTW apparently people who scare easily are more likely to be
> >> right wing nuts.
> >>
> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nervous-people-are-like
> >> ly- to-be-rightwing-935417.html http://tinyurl.com/3kqbrq
> > 
> > That is fascinating and goes a long way to explain your (plural)
> > virtual 24/7 devotion to political rants and feeble attempts at
> > character assassination in a current-events newsgroup explicitly
> > placed by majority vote in a non-political hierarchy.
> 
> Not character assassination, Scott. Fair comment.

Only to you is it fair comment. I say you're profane, obsessed, and
you would have no life without your 'net connection so you're a
self-addled addict to boot. Fortunately, other than in your own mind
over the years, you have not managed to assassinate any character but
your own.
 
> And what on earth you mean by 'a current-events newsgroup
> explicitly placed by majority vote in a non-political hierarchy'
> perhaps, again, you would care to explain.

You have been informed on several occasions how and why this group
was created. Even 'gandalf' was there, so where were you? Again, it's
your memory failing, not mine, and you and anyone else are perfectly
free to read the 'group charter and search the UNNA and UNNC archives
for the discussion of how and why and the votes.

To summarize: You have spent seven years in a explicitly
non-political newsgroup posting hierarchically off-topic articles and
imagining personal attacks against yourself whilst slinging profane
and vitriolic comments at people you have not and to your good
fortune never will meet. It keeps you out of the parks at night and
the malls during the afternoon so there is some net positive benefit
to both mankind and 'netkind.

Again, carry on!
 


Regards,

Scott



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"3Phase"

> ... you have no doubt noticed
> that almost all of the public traffic come from herds of wannabes,
> groups of squirrels[1] and swarms of "Bridgestone bugs."

Lots and lots of wannabes, each of whom has several online ID's as a rule. 
It takes time to learn how to identify the serious players and the serious 
material. For every guy who makes a video, there are hundreds of guys who 
copy it, or copy links to it. A good portion of the "terrorist underclass" 
is just the usual local rabble who -- while the fashion lasts -- are wearing 
beards and speaking Arabic paternosters in the hope that it makes them look 
like a global menace.

LH

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:28:11 GMT, "The Happy Hippy"
 wrote in message
<LVdBk.60774$E41.42447@text.news.virginmedia.com>:

[...] 
> You're off your meds again arn't you.

I have never been on any medication, but thank you for your concern.
Frankly, were I to even pretend to threaten a man and his entire
family in any public medium I would be medicated in mere
milliseconds, feeble protestations of innocence and pseudo-legal
babbling about mens rea notwithstanding.

You used to have your head screwed on backwards but at least it
looked O.E.M. and the threads were clean and usually well-oiled. You
deteriorated to netcopping and now you're demanding credentials from
other posters.

Yes, demanding. And belittling. You positively preened and burbled
when you wrote about causing petty problems for the police in one of
your most recent articles and you seem to believe it is an admirable
trait in an adult.

You cannot blame your behavior on outside or recent influences
because in your own posts you have stated and confirmed that you are
a petty activist that causes petty problems during petty
demonstrations and that you have been this way long before this
newsgroup was created.

Now, if you and Jesse don't stop snogging I'm going to be ill. As it
is I have to get up at the crack of dawn and make sure the sun still
rises in the east!


Regards,

Scott



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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:21:52 GMT, "Larry Hammick"
 wrote in message
<kAfBk.1031$Pv5.741@edtnps83>:
> "3Phase"
> 
> > ... you have no doubt noticed
> > that almost all of the public traffic come from herds of
> > wannabes, groups of squirrels[1] and swarms of "Bridgestone
> > bugs."
> 
> Lots and lots of wannabes, each of whom has several online ID's as
> a rule.  It takes time to learn how to identify the serious players
> and the serious  material. For every guy who makes a video, there
> are hundreds of guys who  copy it, or copy links to it. A good
> portion of the "terrorist underclass"  is just the usual local
> rabble who -- while the fashion lasts -- are wearing  beards and
> speaking Arabic paternosters in the hope that it makes them look 
> like a global menace.
> 
> LH 

Most of them are just stupid, some of them are generating noise to
cover  their fellow travelers.

What little the terrorists have actually said has come in dribs and
drabs from their own orifices and not from the voluminous flow of
useful idiots.

Have a good night, Larry, and good hunting.


Regards,

Scott


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> Now, if you and Jesse don't stop snogging I'm going to be ill. As it
> is I have to get up at the crack of dawn and make sure the sun still
> rises in the east!
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott


My God, I'll hand it to all you guys, you all are pretty damn hilarious 
when you bicker.
"Snogging" is a new one on me, and I perceive its meaning.

Don't worry about me & Hip, these "get along" cycles never last long, never.

Russia is perhaps thee 1 area we are close to agreement about, and 
though me and hip are idealogical natural enemies, I see no shame or 
harm in rooting out thoughts and opinions from all different sources on 
this matter.
I'm not looking for my opinion to be reinforced, I am looking to expand 
it - Therefore, one must trot down some unused back roads in order to do 
that.
After all, if another cold war starts ... Or maybe even a hot one, it is 
going to universally affect all of us, and our children, in a very large 
manner ... No matter what our other gripes on various issues may be.

3Phase wrote:

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> 
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:59:41 GMT, Robin T Cox 
> wrote in message <1vdBk.60769$E41.39050@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
>> 3Phase wrote:
>> > On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:15:59 GMT, Robin T Cox 
>> > wrote in message
>> > <z5bBk.60707$E41.52373@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
>> >> 3Phase wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > Good morning, Larry!
>> >> > 
>> >> > As you're about the only remaining newsgroup participant that
>> >> > actually makes regular, on-topic, posts, you have no doubt
>> >> > noticed that almost all of the public traffic come from herds
>> >> > of wannabes, groups of squirrels[1] and swarms of "Bridgestone
>> >> > bugs."
>> >> 
>> >> Arsehole creeping will get you nowhere, 3Phase.
>> > 
>> > Ah, yes, profanity. Rim^H^H^HRobin, your 'H' is glowing, but
>> > coming from an unemployed professional defense bogsnorkeler I'll
>> > take that as a compliment.
>> >  
>> 
>> What on earth does Rim^H^H^H mean?
> 
> Arnold Judas Rimmer, or "Rimmah!". I was attempting to be polite but
> humourous.
> 

You should also get out more.

>> And since when was 'arsehole creeping' a profane expression?
> 
> 'Arsehole creeping' is profane in any company but your own. As you
> have chosen profanity you may have the full measure in return,
> bogsnorkeler.
>  

Profanity is treating disrespectfully that which is sacred. So what's sacred
about you or Hammick, pray?

>> Compliments must seldom come your way, obviously. Which is hardly
>> surprising.
> 
> I both receive and return sincere compliments all the time.
>  

As you demonstrate in this thread. My compliments to you are also quite
sincere, believe me.

>> >> Larry is a very sad man, who imagines that all the world's
>> >> against him.
>> > 
>> > As the sole, very sad, man whose first post to the public USENET
>> > immediately following the UK's Nimrod tragedy in Afghanistan was
>> > all about your personal wailing and moaning about almost
>> > universal opposition to your lost contract opportunity with not a
>> > word of type devoted to the lost crew or their families you are
>> > not in a position to preach about anything except the relative
>> > merits of personal amorality.
>> 
>> You've been absent for a long long time, Scott, haven't you? And
>> obviously have a very clouded memory about the thread to which you
>> refer.
> 
> Don't try to hop up on your 'longstanding poster' platform in front
> of me or I shall be forced to pelt thee with sleeping parrots,
> cretin!
> 

More compliments, I see.

> I do read and catch up on the 'group but most of the time it's
> same-same for months and I have no comment. If it will make you feel
> better you may imagine for yourself my followups to the flame-bait
> you post as news and fair comment.
> 
> Please insert the standard disingenuous pithy followup about
> profanity, ad homs, ambassadors, Yanks and Canadians in this space
>  ---> []
> 
> If they're new and particularly witty you may use the long form
>  ---> [ ]
> 
>> As to my comments about Hammick, I'll match yours any day. If you
>> seriously think that Hammick is the 'only remaining newsgroup
>> participant that actually makes regular on-topic posts' then you
>> are either arsehole creeping or haven't been paying attention.
>> 
>> There now, I've said it again.
> 
> As expectorated.
>  

Whimsicality upon whimsicality. When will it ever end?

>> >> No doubt you can sympathise, or else why would you use PGP to
>> >> authenticate your posts?
>> > 
>> > I have already told you, personally, why I use PGP. If your
>> > memory is as capacious as your voluminous, empty, flaming
>> > keyboard rhetoric you will recall that it has nothing to do with
>> > your puerile suspicions and everything to do with both long and
>> > short-term article integrity.
>> 
>> Since it has been quite some time since you stuck your head above
>> the parapet, why don't you remind the rest of the folks why you,
>> apart form just about everyone else on the newsgroup, chooses to
>> use PGP to sign their posts. After all, imitation is the sincerest
>> form of flattery isn't it? Although I really can't think who would
>> want to imitate you.
> 
> Why don't you look it up for yourself. It will give you something to
> do besides moaning through your hat.
> 

It's not my job to explain to others why you do what you do. If you can't be
bothered to do it, then you must accept that people will draw their own
conclusions.

>> >> BTW apparently people who scare easily are more likely to be
>> >> right wing nuts.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nervous-people-are-like
>> >> ly- to-be-rightwing-935417.html http://tinyurl.com/3kqbrq
>> > 
>> > That is fascinating and goes a long way to explain your (plural)
>> > virtual 24/7 devotion to political rants and feeble attempts at
>> > character assassination in a current-events newsgroup explicitly
>> > placed by majority vote in a non-political hierarchy.
>> 
>> Not character assassination, Scott. Fair comment.
> 
> Only to you is it fair comment. I say you're profane, obsessed, and
> you would have no life without your 'net connection so you're a
> self-addled addict to boot. Fortunately, other than in your own mind
> over the years, you have not managed to assassinate any character but
> your own.
>  

I don't assassinate characters. Nor do I put up with bullshit.

>> And what on earth you mean by 'a current-events newsgroup
>> explicitly placed by majority vote in a non-political hierarchy'
>> perhaps, again, you would care to explain.
> 
> You have been informed on several occasions how and why this group
> was created. Even 'gandalf' was there, so where were you? Again, it's
> your memory failing, not mine, and you and anyone else are perfectly
> free to read the 'group charter and search the UNNA and UNNC archives
> for the discussion of how and why and the votes.
> 

Spare me the history lesson. How and why this group was created does not
determine how it will evolve, since in a democracy no forum can bind its
successors. Just don't expect to pop in from time to time and tell everyone
else how to carry on, when you contribute so little yourself.

> To summarize: You have spent seven years in a explicitly
> non-political newsgroup posting hierarchically off-topic articles and
> imagining personal attacks against yourself whilst slinging profane
> and vitriolic comments at people you have not and to your good
> fortune never will meet. It keeps you out of the parks at night and
> the malls during the afternoon so there is some net positive benefit
> to both mankind and 'netkind.
> 

More compliments and ad hominem stuff.

Gosh, you and Hammick must really have a thing going. My few remarks about
his behaviour have really got you riled, haven't they?

> Again, carry on!
>  

I'll leave the carrying on to you.

> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
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Chin chin, old bean. Or should I call you:

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Facts are sacred ... but comment is free

"3Phase"  wrote ...

> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:28:11 GMT, "The Happy Hippy"
>  wrote in message
> <LVdBk.60774$E41.42447@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
>
> [...]
> > You're off your meds again arn't you.
>
> I have never been on any medication, but thank you for your concern.
> Frankly, were I to even pretend to threaten a man and his entire
> family in any public medium I would be medicated in mere
> milliseconds, feeble protestations of innocence and pseudo-legal
> babbling about mens rea notwithstanding.

Looks like you're another who believes in punishment and corrective
treatment before the establishment of guilt, and dismissing all defences as
invalid or to be ignored in order to give such punishment. Doesn't surprise
me.


> You used to have your head screwed on backwards but at least it
> looked O.E.M. and the threads were clean and usually well-oiled. You
> deteriorated to netcopping and now you're demanding credentials from
> other posters.
>
> Yes, demanding.

If you cannot see the difference between challenging or asking and demanding
it's not suprising you're such an arsehole.


> And belittling. You positively preened and burbled
> when you wrote about causing petty problems for the police in one of
> your most recent articles and you seem to believe it is an admirable
> trait in an adult.
>
> You cannot blame your behavior on outside or recent influences
> because in your own posts you have stated and confirmed that you are
> a petty activist that causes petty problems during petty
> demonstrations and that you have been this way long before this
> newsgroup was created.

I've done no such thing.

That's your second outright LIE in as many posts.


> Now, if you and Jesse don't stop snogging I'm going to be ill. As it
> is I have to get up at the crack of dawn and make sure the sun still
> rises in the east!

Whatever.

Your accusations of netcopping are quite laughable given your own move
towards getting this group moderated and your ridiculous and false
accusations of my "incessant, one-sided, vigilante moderation" when no such
moderation was occuring ( another of your lies ).

"Jesse"  wrote ...

> 3Phase wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>
> > Now, if you and Jesse don't stop snogging I'm going to be ill. As it
> > is I have to get up at the crack of dawn and make sure the sun still
> > rises in the east!
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Scott
>
>
> My God, I'll hand it to all you guys, you all are pretty damn hilarious
> when you bicker.
> "Snogging" is a new one on me, and I perceive its meaning.
>
> Don't worry about me & Hip, these "get along" cycles never last long,
never.
>
> Russia is perhaps thee 1 area we are close to agreement about, and
> though me and hip are idealogical natural enemies, I see no shame or
> harm in rooting out thoughts and opinions from all different sources on
> this matter.
> I'm not looking for my opinion to be reinforced, I am looking to expand
> it - Therefore, one must trot down some unused back roads in order to do
> that.

Hear, hear. Which is why I objected to Scott's floating of the idea of
moderating this group and his sated belief that it would be best for it (
"At this time I believe moderation is preferable to status quo" - Dec
2007 ).

Voltaire said the appropriate things in this respect, and it seems to me it
is Scott who has the problem with what should be allowed in this group or
not. That he says we are "snogging" can hardly be read as anything other
than it not being acceptable, that he finds it unacceptable, and seeks to
discourge it. So much for free speech and the right to free engagement.


> After all, if another cold war starts ... Or maybe even a hot one, it is
> going to universally affect all of us, and our children, in a very large
> manner ... No matter what our other gripes on various issues may be.

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:44:51 GMT, Robin T Cox 
wrote in message <TXmBk.60860$E41.27945@text.news.virginmedia.com>:


"Error: Buffer Overflow Detected"

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm glad to see you too, Robin!

Get off my leg....
:)


Regards,

Scott




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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 06:00:24 GMT, Jesse  wrote in message
<YplBk.767683$3p2.91408@fe10.news.easynews.com>:
> 3Phase wrote:
> 
> > Now, if you and Jesse don't stop snogging I'm going to be ill. As
> > it is I have to get up at the crack of dawn and make sure the sun
> > still rises in the east!
> 
> My God, I'll hand it to all you guys, you all are pretty damn
> hilarious  when you bicker.
> "Snogging" is a new one on me, and I perceive its meaning.
> 
> Don't worry about me & Hip, these "get along" cycles never last
> long, never.  

Oh, I know!

This group is like flypaper for f'wits. We knew this would happen
when we created a 'group with the word 'terrorism' in its name but I,
personally, never really believed it would be this successful. At the
time, I believed the British had more sense than the blathering
terrorists.

As it turned out on the whole they do, but if you leave some of them
alone for too long in a group they're like infants in a nursery. They
will scream and cry louder and louder in concert until, eventually, a
Yank shows up. Then they throw everything out of the pram to play,
"Daddy pick up!" and spew the most vile substances out of every
conceivable orifice all over you and themselves; grinning ear-to-ear
and looking for attention and approval. 

Just leave the toys on the floor, clean them up, change their
diapers, give them a warm bottle and a nice cuddle while telling them
a bedtime story and they'll be fine for a while.

Some peoples' kids....

> Russia is perhaps thee 1 area we are close to agreement about, and 
> though me and hip are idealogical natural enemies, I see no shame
> or  harm in rooting out thoughts and opinions from all different
> sources on  this matter.
> I'm not looking for my opinion to be reinforced, I am looking to
> expand  it - Therefore, one must trot down some unused back roads
> in order to do  that.
> After all, if another cold war starts ... Or maybe even a hot one,
> it is  going to universally affect all of us, and our children, in
> a very large  manner ... No matter what our other gripes on various
> issues may be.  

Yes, this is deadly serious so I'll have to agree and snog along.
Move over. 

I've been waiting for this particular shoe to drop since we put
troops into former-Soviet territory before we went into Afghanistan.
I never in my life imagined that could happen without nukes flying
and it's still sort of surreal even seven years later....


Regards,

Scott



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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:28:45 GMT, "The Happy Hippy"
 wrote in message
<xlpBk.60901$E41.10029@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
> "Jesse"  wrote ...
> > 3Phase wrote:
> > > Now, if you and Jesse don't stop snogging I'm going to be ill.
> > > As it is I have to get up at the crack of dawn and make sure
> > > the sun still rises in the east!
> >
> >
> > My God, I'll hand it to all you guys, you all are pretty damn
> > hilarious when you bicker.
> > "Snogging" is a new one on me, and I perceive its meaning.
> >
> > Don't worry about me & Hip, these "get along" cycles never last
> > long, never.
> >
> > Russia is perhaps thee 1 area we are close to agreement about,
> > and though me and hip are idealogical natural enemies, I see no
> > shame or harm in rooting out thoughts and opinions from all
> > different sources on this matter.
> > I'm not looking for my opinion to be reinforced, I am looking to
> > expand it - Therefore, one must trot down some unused back roads
> > in order to do that.
> 
> Hear, hear. Which is why I objected to Scott's floating of the idea
> of moderating this group and his sated belief that it would be best
> for it ( "At this time I believe moderation is preferable to status
> quo" - Dec 2007 ).

Hear what? After doing my own research almost a year ago into many
unsavory options sated my initial appetite for moderation I did not
feel the need to post a followup mentioning that I had changed my
mind.

You, on the other hand, always have been and remain petty.

> Voltaire said the appropriate things in this respect, and it seems
> to me it is Scott who has the problem with what should be allowed
> in this group or not. That he says we are "snogging" can hardly be
> read as anything other than it not being acceptable, that he finds
> it unacceptable, and seeks to discourge it. So much for free speech
> and the right to free engagement.  

It figures you would quote Voltaire in a vain attempt to validate
your position, not... that there's anything wrong with that!

I have not tried to censor you. In fact, I have explicitly written,
"Carry on!"
 
> > After all, if another cold war starts ... Or maybe even a hot
> > one, it is going to universally affect all of us, and our
> > children, in a very large manner ... No matter what our other
> > gripes on various issues may be.  

Yes, upon reflection I agree with you and Jesse.

C'mere, you cute little Hologram, you....


Regards,

Scott



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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:17:31 GMT, "The Happy Hippy"
 wrote in message
<%apBk.60899$E41.38541@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
> "3Phase"  wrote ...
> > On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:28:11 GMT, "The Happy Hippy"
> >  wrote in message
> > <LVdBk.60774$E41.42447@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
> >
> > [...]
> > > You're off your meds again arn't you.
> >
> > I have never been on any medication, but thank you for your
> > concern. Frankly, were I to even pretend to threaten a man and
> > his entire family in any public medium I would be medicated in
> > mere milliseconds, feeble protestations of innocence and
> > pseudo-legal babbling about mens rea notwithstanding. 
> 
> Looks like you're another who believes in punishment and corrective
> treatment before the establishment of guilt, and dismissing all
> defences as invalid or to be ignored in order to give such
> punishment. Doesn't surprise me.  

Looks like you're still trying to dodge and hide; doesn't surprise
me, either, ferret.
 
> > You used to have your head screwed on backwards but at least it
> > looked O.E.M. and the threads were clean and usually well-oiled.
> > You deteriorated to netcopping and now you're demanding
> > credentials from other posters.
> >
> > Yes, demanding.
> 
> If you cannot see the difference between challenging or asking and
> demanding it's not suprising you're such an arsehole.

See, the difference is -  I know I am at times an ass. You have been
talking out of your backside since birth and it has, apparently, come
as a bit of a shock to you.

If you cannot maintain a discussion without belittling and demanding
credentials to which you are in no way entitled in any newsgroup -
you have lost.
 
> > And belittling. You positively preened and burbled
> > when you wrote about causing petty problems for the police in one
> > of your most recent articles and you seem to believe it is an
> > admirable trait in an adult.
> >
> > You cannot blame your behavior on outside or recent influences
> > because in your own posts you have stated and confirmed that you
> > are a petty activist that causes petty problems during petty
> > demonstrations and that you have been this way long before this
> > newsgroup was created.
> 
> I've done no such thing.
> 
> That's your second outright LIE in as many posts.

Oh, dear, there you go demanding proof uppercase when it's just
up the list.  

This is tiresome and is partly why I still believe you're an open
email account down the pub or the local mosque and not a real,
single, entity.
 
> > Now, if you and Jesse don't stop snogging I'm going to be ill. As
> > it is I have to get up at the crack of dawn and make sure the sun
> > still rises in the east!
> 
> Whatever.
> 
> Your accusations of netcopping are quite laughable given your own
> move towards getting this group moderated and your ridiculous and
> false accusations of my "incessant, one-sided, vigilante
> moderation" when no such moderation was occuring ( another of your
> lies ).

It's not an accusation, it's what you posted as a matter of record.
You were netcopping. I see you're slinging the 'L' word around a
great deal today; rash or is the bottle cold?


Regards,

Scott



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"3Phase"  wrote ..

> > > You cannot blame your behavior on outside or recent influences
> > > because in your own posts you have stated and confirmed that you
> > > are a petty activist that causes petty problems during petty
> > > demonstrations and that you have been this way long before this
> > > newsgroup was created.
> >
> > I've done no such thing.
> >
> > That's your second outright LIE in as many posts.
>
> Oh, dear, there you go demanding proof uppercase when it's just
> up the list.

No. what's up there is what I wrote. What you interpret that as is what you
state here evern though I never said it. That's whay it's a lie. It's what
you want to believe I said, not what I did.


> This is tiresome and is partly why I still believe you're an open
> email account down the pub or the local mosque and not a real,
> single, entity.

Whatever.