New London terror warning

Christina Lamb and Michael Smith
The Sunday Times
September 14, 2008 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749196.ece

AMERICAN raids on Taliban and Al-Qaeda targets in Pakistan could provoke
terror attacks in London,Pakistan’s high commissioner to the UK warned
yesterday. 

Wajid Shamsul Hasan said the US bombings had killed hundreds of civilians
but had failed to eliminate any Al-Qaeda leader. 

“This will infuriate Muslims in this country and make the streets of London
less safe,” he said. “There are 1m Pakistanis in the diaspora here and
resentment is mounting. I’m being flooded by text messages from community
leaders saying we must organise our anger. 

“The Americans’ trigger-happy actions will radicalise young Muslims. They’re
playing into the hands of the very militants we’re supposed to be
fighting.” 

His remarks followed outrage in Pakistan over five attacks in the past 10
days, including a ground assault in the village of Angoor Adda in which 20
people were killed. US officials say all were Al-Qaeda supporters but
Pakistan insists they were civilians, including women and children. 

Pakistan’s newly elected president, Asif Ali Zardari, arrives in Britain
today on what was to have been a private visit to see his daughter off to
university in Edinburgh. Instead he will hold crisis talks with Gordon
Brown and David Miliband, the foreign secretary. He will appeal to them to
exert their influence to halt the unauthorised bombings. 

“We hope they will help convince the Americans to stop it, to give space to
our fledgling democracy and revive our economy,” Hasan said. “Otherwise the
army will take over. Is that what they want?”

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"Robin T Cox"  wrote ...

> New London terror warning
>
> Christina Lamb and Michael Smith
> The Sunday Times
> September 14, 2008
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749196.ece
>
> AMERICAN raids on Taliban and Al-Qaeda targets in Pakistan could provoke
> terror attacks in London,Pakistan's high commissioner to the UK warned
> yesterday.
>
> Wajid Shamsul Hasan said the US bombings had killed hundreds of civilians
> but had failed to eliminate any Al-Qaeda leader.
>
> "This will infuriate Muslims in this country and make the streets of
London
> less safe," he said. "There are 1m Pakistanis in the diaspora here and
> resentment is mounting. I'm being flooded by text messages from community
> leaders saying we must organise our anger.
>
> "The Americans' trigger-happy actions will radicalise young Muslims. They'
re
> playing into the hands of the very militants we're supposed to be
> fighting." [snip]

Can't say I'd blame them for being unfuriated or worse, even wanting
revenge. I'd feel the same way if US forces were attacking my own town and
killing innocent neighbours in their so-called war on terror ( quite a joke
as they run a war of terror ).

The risk of supporting and accepting US murder of innocent people - and
doing the same ourselves - is that someone will be pissed-off enough to give
us a dose of "this is what it feels like" in a repeat run of 7/7. That's the
blood price Blair said we'd all have to accept.

While I cannot entirely approve of anyone giving us a taste of our own
medicine I cannot really criticise those who would want to. I'd likely want
to do the same in their position. I believe most people would and
retaliation is a natural urge but most these days are too hypocritical or
frightened to say so. As soon as one accepts such retaliation has any
validity one has to accept that this 'terrorism' is legitimate and we cannot
have that can we, oh no; it's okay when we do it to others, but not when
they do it to us.

The so-called war on terror is nothing short of kicking the shit out of
those the US don't like and killing those who feel they have some right to
kick the shit back before they can. It's a simple war of agression.

"Robin T Cox"  wrote in message 
news:M74zk.57417$E41.26353@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> New London terror warning
>
> Christina Lamb and Michael Smith
> The Sunday Times
> September 14, 2008
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749196.ece
>
> AMERICAN raids on Taliban and Al-Qaeda targets in Pakistan could provoke
> terror attacks in London,Pakistan’s high commissioner to the UK warned
> yesterday.
>
> Wajid Shamsul Hasan said the US bombings had killed hundreds of civilians
> but had failed to eliminate any Al-Qaeda leader.
>
> “This will infuriate Muslims in this country and make the streets of 
> London
> less safe,” he said. “There are 1m Pakistanis in the diaspora here and
> resentment is mounting. I’m being flooded by text messages from community
> leaders saying we must organise our anger.

Funny that ... I thought most people of the Pakistani origin here were 
"loyal British citizens owing allegiance to the Crown" ;-)

Of course, those getting worked up could go back to Pakistan and take turns 
doing guard duty on the Afghan border, firing warning shots at dastardly 
Americans trying to cross the border !

In message <48d03d53$1@newsgate.x-privat.org>, Richard <?@?.?.invalid> 
writes
>
>"Robin T Cox"  wrote in message 
>news:M74zk.57417$E41.26353@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> New London terror warning
>>
>> Christina Lamb and Michael Smith
>> The Sunday Times
>> September 14, 2008
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749196.ece
>>
>> AMERICAN raids on Taliban and Al-Qaeda targets in Pakistan could provoke
>> terror attacks in London,Pakistan’s high commissioner to the UK warned
>> yesterday.
>>
>> Wajid Shamsul Hasan said the US bombings had killed hundreds of civilians
>> but had failed to eliminate any Al-Qaeda leader.
>>
>> “This will infuriate Muslims in this country and make the streets 
>>of London
>> less safe,” he said. “There are 1m Pakistanis in the diaspora here and
>> resentment is mounting. I’m being flooded by text messages from community
>> leaders saying we must organise our anger.
>
>Funny that ... I thought most people of the Pakistani origin here were 
>"loyal British citizens owing allegiance to the Crown" ;-)

They are. They like most of the old labour party will fight for a cause. 
Many of the old Labour were Mercenaries who fought in the international 
brigade in Spain

>Of course, those getting worked up could go back to Pakistan and take 
>turns doing guard duty on the Afghan border, firing warning shots at 
>dastardly Americans trying to cross the border !

No need the Pakistan government is doing that to stop the illegal 
attacks on their country by the US

The US is no different to AQ in attacking another sovereign country and 
killing civilians.

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>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749196.ece
>>
>> AMERICAN raids on Taliban and Al-Qaeda targets in Pakistan could provoke
>> terror attacks in London, Pakistan's high commissioner to the UK warned
>> yesterday.

It's true that the war in South Waziristan might spill into their colonies, 
such as the West Midlands. Thus the British are prudent to start blaming it 
on the Americans /before/ rather than /after/ the British Taliban blows 
anything up.

In message <NN1Ak.252$Pv5.72@edtnps83>, Larry Hammick 
 writes
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749196.ece
>>>
>>> AMERICAN raids on Taliban and Al-Qaeda targets in Pakistan could provoke
>>> terror attacks in London, Pakistan's high commissioner to the UK warned
>>> yesterday.
>
>It's true that the war in South Waziristan might spill into their colonies,
>such as the West Midlands. Thus the British are prudent to start blaming it
>on the Americans /before/ rather than /after/ the British Taliban blows
>anything up.

The Americans ARE to blame. They are attacking civilians in Pakistan 
without any permission to cross the border.

If the Mexican government started blowing up houses of "suspected 
terrorists" or drugs dealers in the US I am sure the US would get a 
little upset to.
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