The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at 8:30am 
(presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox covered it too, 
given the end-of-the-world component to the story.

I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want to go 
out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)

Damn....  I knew I should have gone to see Batman last week....

=============================

"BBC:  The End Is Not Nigh"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/today/tomfeilden/2008/09/the_end_of_the_world_is_not_ni.html

2. At 4:27pm on 06 Sep 2008, RoddyStickleback wrote:
Physicists do not understand the limitations of empirical science. They 
should not be entrusted with a risk assessment of this importance.
The main plank of the legal argument that this is safe is completely flawed. 
The conditions in this experiment are not the same as for cosmic 
ray/particle events which they say have been happening safely and with which 
they have been compared in the official risk assessment. For one thing, the 
cosmic particles are in free fall under a weak gravitational force and are 
effectively not in a force field. The particles in LHC are under a variety 
of intense magnetic fields, bombarded by photons of electromagnetic 
character absent from similar collisions in space. Secondly the large cosmic 
partcle collisions take place in a low density enviroment far away from 
other matter, whereas these take place surrounded by metal and within the 
earth's crust. Both of these parameters could introduce unknown particles 
and forces ( eg 1000% more gloun influnce for example). Thus to say that 
this experiment will be safe is completely reckless. The cosmic particle 
comparison is disastrously flawed.
How dangerous could this be?
If conditions are similar to a mini big bang but with an unexpected twist, 
unexpected events could occur.
Examples:
1) a singularity in space time is formed. Our region of the universe 
collapses.
2) time reverses and a big crunch is initiated.
3) a supernova like event is triggered.
4) a local event is triggered such as a meltdown of France/Switzerland/the 
Alps
5) An intense electromagnetic catastrophe is triggered leading to an event 
similar to a neutron bomb explosion.
6) The production of a new type of radiation could occur, poisoning the 
planet and our atmosphere far more than acid rain.
The probability of these events cannot be scientifically predicted. The 
naive glee of Physicists with a new toy is being allowed to risk the 
destruction of life on this planet.
Mark Jones (Science teacher and Philosophy graduate)

"TWP"  wrote in message 
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>
> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at 8:30am 
> (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox covered it too, 
> given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>
> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want to go 
> out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>
> Damn....  I knew I should have gone to see Batman last week....
>

You should go see it anyway.  It's the best one they've done.

George

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>>
>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at 8:30am 
>> (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox covered it too, 
>> given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>
>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want to 
>> go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>
>> Damn....  I knew I should have gone to see Batman last week....
>>
>
> You should go see it anyway.  It's the best one they've done.
>
> George
>

We're still here!  What a rip-off!

TWP

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>>>
>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at 8:30am 
>>> (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox covered it too, 
>>> given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>
>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want to 
>>> go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>
>>> Damn....  I knew I should have gone to see Batman last week....
>>>
>>
>> You should go see it anyway.  It's the best one they've done.
>>
>> George
>>
>
> We're still here!  What a rip-off!
>
> TWP

Wow, you sound suicidally disappointed!  lol.

I was actually referring to the new Batman movie.  You should go see it. 
It's really good.

George

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>>>
>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at 8:30am 
>>> (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox covered it too, 
>>> given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>
>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want to 
>>> go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>
>>> Damn....  I knew I should have gone to see Batman last week....
>>>
>>
>> You should go see it anyway.  It's the best one they've done.
>>
>> George
>>
>
> We're still here!  What a rip-off!
>
> TWP
>
>
>

Concentrate TWP. They plan to turn it on this morning but with a thing this 
complex it doesn't simply have an "on" button. For the next few weeks they 
are only planning to practice with introducing one beam into the circuit in 
one direction. There will be no smashing them together for ages yet. So you 
can relax and wait for the end of the world in about a month and a half.

Incidentally, I read somewhere that when these two tiny puffs of ephemeral 
particles do collide with each other, and believe me they are pretty 
ephemeral, the forces generated will be roughly equivalent to hurling a 
battleship into a mountain. Personally I think they should have stuck with 
the battleship, but there you are.

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>>>>
>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at 8:30am 
>>>> (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox covered it 
>>>> too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want to 
>>>> go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Damn....  I knew I should have gone to see Batman last week....
>>>>
>>>
>>> You should go see it anyway.  It's the best one they've done.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>
>> We're still here!  What a rip-off!
>>
>> TWP
>>
>>
>>
>
> Concentrate TWP. They plan to turn it on this morning but with a thing 
> this complex it doesn't simply have an "on" button. For the next few weeks 
> they are only planning to practice with introducing one beam into the 
> circuit in one direction. There will be no smashing them together for ages 
> yet. So you can relax and wait for the end of the world in about a month 
> and a half.
>
> Incidentally, I read somewhere that when these two tiny puffs of ephemeral 
> particles do collide with each other, and believe me they are pretty 
> ephemeral, the forces generated will be roughly equivalent to hurling a 
> battleship into a mountain. Personally I think they should have stuck with 
> the battleship, but there you are.
>

Yes, I heard them say that after they fired the first beam (I had to leave 
part-way through seriously against my will).  They let everyone get ready 
for the end and they knew all along that they weren't going to do any 
colliding!

Maybe they've already screwed time up in the future - there are loads of 
time-slip stories, and they're not all from the Bermuda Triangle.  I bet 
they're all the LHC's fault!  Let's get the burning torches and pitchforks 
and kill them for what they're about to do!

What do we want?  A time paradox!  When do we want it?    Now that's a good 
question.....

TWP

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>>>>
>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at 8:30am 
>>>> (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox covered it 
>>>> too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want to 
>>>> go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Damn....  I knew I should have gone to see Batman last week....
>>>>
>>>
>>> You should go see it anyway.  It's the best one they've done.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>
>> We're still here!  What a rip-off!
>>
>> TWP
>
> Wow, you sound suicidally disappointed!  lol.
>
> I was actually referring to the new Batman movie.  You should go see it. 
> It's really good.
>
> George
>

I do intend on going, but I'd better be quick about it.

Suicidal?  No, but if the world is going to come to an end I'd hate to miss 
it.  I'd especially hate myself if I didn't have the video recorder going so 
I could watch it again later....

TWP

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> 
> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
> 
> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)




we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.   


there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.

basho007 wrote:
> "TWP"  wrote in
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> 
>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>
>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.   
> 
> 
> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.  

The radio news just claimed a girl in India has killed herself in fear 
of a black hole. We're all going to die, so the answer is to... erm...

-- 
Arthur Figgis               Down by the old maelstrom

"basho007"  wrote in message 
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> "TWP"  wrote in
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>
>>
>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>
>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>
>
>
>
> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>
>
> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>
>

Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British Navy for 
the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it happens, a 
good reason.

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>>>>>
>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at 
>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox 
>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want 
>>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn....  I knew I should have gone to see Batman last week....
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You should go see it anyway.  It's the best one they've done.
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>
>>> We're still here!  What a rip-off!
>>>
>>> TWP
>>
>> Wow, you sound suicidally disappointed!  lol.
>>
>> I was actually referring to the new Batman movie.  You should go see it. 
>> It's really good.
>>
>> George
>>
>
> I do intend on going, but I'd better be quick about it.
>
> Suicidal?  No, but if the world is going to come to an end I'd hate to 
> miss it.  I'd especially hate myself if I didn't have the video recorder 
> going so I could watch it again later....
>
> TWP
>

Oh, I never thought of that.  Hey, should the world ever end, and you get it 
on disc, could you send me a copy???

George

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>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at 
>>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox 
>>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want 
>>>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damn....  I knew I should have gone to see Batman last week....
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You should go see it anyway.  It's the best one they've done.
>>>>>
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We're still here!  What a rip-off!
>>>>
>>>> TWP
>>>
>>> Wow, you sound suicidally disappointed!  lol.
>>>
>>> I was actually referring to the new Batman movie.  You should go see it. 
>>> It's really good.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>
>> I do intend on going, but I'd better be quick about it.
>>
>> Suicidal?  No, but if the world is going to come to an end I'd hate to 
>> miss it.  I'd especially hate myself if I didn't have the video recorder 
>> going so I could watch it again later....
>>
>> TWP
>>
>
> Oh, I never thought of that.  Hey, should the world ever end, and you get 
> it on disc, could you send me a copy???
>
> George
>

No problem, but it'll probably be on YouTube within minutes anyway.

TWP

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> "TWP"  wrote in
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>>
>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>
>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>
>
>
>
> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>
>
> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>
>

Hope they're not too thorough.  If anyone puts on rubber gloves I'm hanging 
out at Saddam's place.

(That'd make a good T-shirt)

TWP

I see Sky News are now debunking all the "doomsayers" for their foolish 
concerns - even though no actual collisions were carried out within the 
accelerator.  Chernobyl didn't explode on it's first day either.

TWProphet of Doom

Bill Again wrote:
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>>
>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>
>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>
>>
>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>
>>
> 
> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British Navy for 
> the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it happens, a 
> good reason. 

Avoiding infection in any wounds?

-- 
Arthur Figgis               Surrey, UK

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>> "TWP"  wrote in
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>>
>>>
>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>
>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>
>>
>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>
>>
>
> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British Navy 
> for the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it 
> happens, a good reason.
>

Using them as a white flag?

In message <86KdnUhkYt6AXVXVnZ2dnUVZ8sXinZ2d@posted.plusnet>, Arthur 
Figgis <afiggis@example.com.invalid> writes
>Bill Again wrote:
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>>>
>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>
>>>
>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>
>>>
>>  Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British 
>>Navy for  the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, 
>>as it happens, a  good reason.
>
>Avoiding infection in any wounds?

Yes.... The tradition probably dates back to the time when people bathed 
twice a year when changing from winter clothes to summer ones and v-v 
:-)

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In message , TWP 
 writes
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>>>>
>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>
>>>
>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British Navy
>> for the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it
>> happens, a good reason.
>>
>
>Using them as a white flag?

The UK has won most of the wars it has been involved in whilst creating 
the largest empire the world has ever seen......

Remind me what has the US military actually won on it's own?

It's not the war of independence as that was, at least, a three way 
fight.
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   Chris H  enlightened us thusly:
[Snippety snip]

> Remind me what has the US military actually won on it's own?

Loads of own goals? ;-)

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> Figgis <afiggis@example.com.invalid> writes
>>Bill Again wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>  Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British 
>>> Navy for  the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as 
>>> it happens, a  good reason.
>>
>>Avoiding infection in any wounds?
>
> Yes.... The tradition probably dates back to the time when people bathed 
> twice a year when changing from winter clothes to summer ones and v-v :-)
>
> -- 
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Crumbs, did you have summer clothes as well?

"Arthur Figgis" <afiggis@example.com.invalid> wrote in message 
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> Bill Again wrote:
>> "basho007"  wrote in message 
>> news:Xns9B15AE3447DC7basho@69.16.176.253...
>>> "TWP"  wrote in
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>>>
>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>
>>>
>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British Navy 
>> for the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it 
>> happens, a good reason.
>
> Avoiding infection in any wounds?
>
> -- 
> Arthur Figgis               Surrey, UK

Exactly. As the Grey Funnel Line was once all TB and Navy Cake then I 
suppose it was the best that they could do...

"Chris H"  wrote in message 
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> In message , TWP 
>  writes
>>
>>"Bill Again"  wrote in message
>>news:ga9ab3$cio$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>
>>> "basho007"  wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9B15AE3447DC7basho@69.16.176.253...
>>>> "TWP"  wrote in
>>>> news:VIGdnXxRxeBky1rVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British Navy
>>> for the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it
>>> happens, a good reason.
>>>
>>
>>Using them as a white flag?
>
> The UK has won most of the wars it has been involved in whilst creating 
> the largest empire the world has ever seen......

I know!  I was just kidding!
There's not a lot of that empire left though is there.

>
> Remind me what has the US military actually won on it's own?
>
> It's not the war of independence as that was, at least, a three way fight.

What has underwear got to do with the US?
The US didn't fight that war alone anyway.  The French helped.

TWP

In message , TWP 
 writes
>
>"Chris H"  wrote in message
>news:JuhkNxEYENyIFAob@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>> In message , TWP
>>  writes
>>>
>>>"Bill Again"  wrote in message
>>>news:ga9ab3$cio$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>>
>>>> "basho007"  wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9B15AE3447DC7basho@69.16.176.253...
>>>>> "TWP"  wrote in
>>>>> news:VIGdnXxRxeBky1rVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British Navy
>>>> for the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it
>>>> happens, a good reason.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Using them as a white flag?
>>
>> The UK has won most of the wars it has been involved in whilst creating
>> the largest empire the world has ever seen......
>
>I know!  I was just kidding!
>There's not a lot of that empire left though is there.

No empire at all. However there is a Commonwealth... The Brits are the 
only empire that has managed a move like this. All other empires have 
usually completely disappeared and the main controlling country had 
disappeared too.

Not sure if the Commonwealth was by luck or judgement.  Some one 
(probably completely unrecognised in history) must have thought up the 
idea

>> Remind me what has the US military actually won on it's own?
>>
>> It's not the war of independence as that was, at least, a three way fight.
>
>What has underwear got to do with the US?
?

>The US didn't fight that war alone anyway.  The French helped.

Quite... French and the Indians on various sides.  When you say the 
French "helped" I suppose it depends on your view :-)

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"TWP"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Chris H"  wrote in message 
> news:JuhkNxEYENyIFAob@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>> In message , TWP 
>>  writes
>>>
>>>"Bill Again"  wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "basho007"  wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9B15AE3447DC7basho@69.16.176.253...
>>>>> "TWP"  wrote in
>>>>> news:VIGdnXxRxeBky1rVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British 
>>>> Navy
>>>> for the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it
>>>> happens, a good reason.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Using them as a white flag?
>>
>> The UK has won most of the wars it has been involved in whilst creating 
>> the largest empire the world has ever seen......
>
> I know!  I was just kidding!
> There's not a lot of that empire left though is there.

Yes, there is an enormous amount left. Nowadays it is called the 
Commonwealth.

"TWP"  wrote ...

> I see Sky News are now debunking all the "doomsayers" for their foolish
> concerns - even though no actual collisions were carried out within the
> accelerator.  Chernobyl didn't explode on it's first day either.
>
> TWProphet of Doom

Sky have a programme which puts Y2K as the greatest 'hoax' ever on the
grounds that the dangers predicted never materialised. Despite the fact that
was because because people spent billions and years ensuring the threat was
eradicated ahaead of time.

Chris H  wrote in
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> In message , TWP 
>  writes
>>
>>"Chris H"  wrote in message
>>news:JuhkNxEYENyIFAob@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>>> In message , TWP
>>>  writes
>>>>
>>>>"Bill Again"  wrote in message
>>>>news:ga9ab3$cio$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "basho007"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns9B15AE3447DC7basho@69.16.176.253...
>>>>>> "TWP"  wrote in
>>>>>> news:VIGdnXxRxeBky1rVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the
>>>>>>> story. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't
>>>>>>> want to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face!
>>>>>>> :-) 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the
>>>>>> day. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the
>>>>> British Navy for the matelots to don clean underwear before a
>>>>> battle? With, as it happens, a good reason.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Using them as a white flag?
>>>
>>> The UK has won most of the wars it has been involved in whilst
>>> creating the largest empire the world has ever seen......
>>
>>I know!  I was just kidding!
>>There's not a lot of that empire left though is there.
> 
> No empire at all. However there is a Commonwealth... The Brits are the
> only empire that has managed a move like this. All other empires have 
> usually completely disappeared and the main controlling country had 
> disappeared too.
> 
> Not sure if the Commonwealth was by luck or judgement.  Some one 
> (probably completely unrecognised in history) must have thought up the
> idea



there was a competing plan in the 20s for the major Dominions in the 
Empire to form a single federal entity.   


This is described in "Studies in the Evolution of Dominion Status" by G. 
Neuendorf. (Allen & Unwin: London), 1942

"Bill Again"  wrote in message 
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>
> "TWP"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "Chris H"  wrote in message 
>> news:JuhkNxEYENyIFAob@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>>> In message , TWP 
>>>  writes
>>>>
>>>>"Bill Again"  wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "basho007"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns9B15AE3447DC7basho@69.16.176.253...
>>>>>> "TWP"  wrote in
>>>>>> news:VIGdnXxRxeBky1rVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>>>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British 
>>>>> Navy
>>>>> for the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it
>>>>> happens, a good reason.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Using them as a white flag?
>>>
>>> The UK has won most of the wars it has been involved in whilst creating 
>>> the largest empire the world has ever seen......
>>
>> I know!  I was just kidding!
>> There's not a lot of that empire left though is there.
>
> Yes, there is an enormous amount left. Nowadays it is called the 
> Commonwealth.
>
>
>
>

It's a greatly depleted empire from what it was, and it keeps trying to get 
smaller.  I thought Australia would have left ages ago.

TWP

"TWP"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Bill Again"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "TWP"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "Chris H"  wrote in message 
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>>>> In message , TWP 
>>>>  writes
>>>>>
>>>>>"Bill Again"  wrote in message
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> news:Xns9B15AE3447DC7basho@69.16.176.253...
>>>>>>> "TWP"  wrote in
>>>>>>> news:VIGdnXxRxeBky1rVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't 
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British 
>>>>>> Navy
>>>>>> for the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it
>>>>>> happens, a good reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Using them as a white flag?
>>>>
>>>> The UK has won most of the wars it has been involved in whilst creating 
>>>> the largest empire the world has ever seen......
>>>
>>> I know!  I was just kidding!
>>> There's not a lot of that empire left though is there.
>>
>> Yes, there is an enormous amount left. Nowadays it is called the 
>> Commonwealth.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> It's a greatly depleted empire from what it was, and it keeps trying to 
> get smaller.  I thought Australia would have left ages ago.
>
> TWP

There are some 53 countries in it... Pakistan once left but rejoined a few 
years later. There are many advantages to being a member. Drinky poos once a 
year at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and the occasional dinner with 
Brenda. In a fast paced changing world these things are not to be lightly 
dismissed.

TWP wrote:
> "Bill Again"  wrote in message 
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>> "TWP"  wrote in message 
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>>> "Chris H"  wrote in message 
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>>>> In message , TWP 
>>>>  writes
>>>>> "Bill Again"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:ga9ab3$cio$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>>>> "basho007"  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Xns9B15AE3447DC7basho@69.16.176.253...
>>>>>>> "TWP"  wrote in
>>>>>>> news:VIGdnXxRxeBky1rVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't want
>>>>>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British 
>>>>>> Navy
>>>>>> for the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it
>>>>>> happens, a good reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Using them as a white flag?
>>>> The UK has won most of the wars it has been involved in whilst creating 
>>>> the largest empire the world has ever seen......
>>> I know!  I was just kidding!
>>> There's not a lot of that empire left though is there.
>> Yes, there is an enormous amount left. Nowadays it is called the 
>> Commonwealth.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> It's a greatly depleted empire from what it was, and it keeps trying to get 
> smaller.  I thought Australia would have left ages ago.

There are some different concepts here.

There is the Commonwealth, most of the former pink bits except 
rebel-controlled North America, Ireland and some sandy places, plus also 
Cameroon and Mozambique;

There are the dependencies which still are pink bits: Bermuda, 
Falklands, Neverheardofit Island, British Middleofnowhereland, etc;

Then there are the realms: the Commonwealth countries which are 
independent of each other, but share a monarch with each other 
(Australia, NZ, PNG, Canada, UK, Jamaica, etc etc).


Australia looked at becoming a republic (like, say, India), but not at 
leaving the Commonwealth.

-- 
Arthur Figgis               Surrey, UK

Bill Again wrote:

> 
> "TWP"  wrote in message
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>>
>> "Bill Again"  wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "TWP"  wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Chris H"  wrote in message
>>>> news:JuhkNxEYENyIFAob@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
>>>>> In message , TWP
>>>>>  writes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Bill Again"  wrote in message
>>>>>>news:ga9ab3$cio$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "basho007"  wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Xns9B15AE3447DC7basho@69.16.176.253...
>>>>>>>> "TWP"  wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:VIGdnXxRxeBky1rVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Large Hadron Accelerator is turned on live on BBC Radio 4 at
>>>>>>>>> 8:30am (presumably BST).  I wouldn't be surprised if Sky or Fox
>>>>>>>>> covered it too, given the end-of-the-world component to the story.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll be watching/listening.  If I'm going to evapourate I don't
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> to go out with an embarrasing surprised look on my face! :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we better make sure we are all wearing clean underwear on the day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> there are now thorough security checks at the pearly gates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good point! Did you know that it was official orders in the British
>>>>>>> Navy
>>>>>>> for the matelots to don clean underwear before a battle? With, as it
>>>>>>> happens, a good reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Using them as a white flag?
>>>>>
>>>>> The UK has won most of the wars it has been involved in whilst
>>>>> creating the largest empire the world has ever seen......
>>>>
>>>> I know!  I was just kidding!
>>>> There's not a lot of that empire left though is there.
>>>
>>> Yes, there is an enormous amount left. Nowadays it is called the
>>> Commonwealth.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It's a greatly depleted empire from what it was, and it keeps trying to
>> get smaller.  I thought Australia would have left ages ago.
>>
>> TWP
> 
> There are some 53 countries in it... Pakistan once left but rejoined a few
> years later. There are many advantages to being a member. Drinky poos once
> a year at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and the occasional dinner
> with Brenda. In a fast paced changing world these things are not to be
> lightly dismissed.

In fact, you might even call it a coalition of the willing.

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