Yeah, I know the Krays were white and there have been plenty of white
footie holligans, but I thought that in
enriched multicult Britian ethnics lived in harmony together?

Allright i'll cut the bullshit, my monies on the asians even though
the black gangsters have had more recent battle experience - Notting
Hill riots and all the knife crime.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/04/article-0-0284C95300000578-...

Armed with metal poles, sticks, a screwdriver and even Wellington
boots, two gangs of black and Asian youths fight it out in broad
daylight on the streets of London.


The terrifying scenes were captured by a photographer who had been
waiting in the street to take a photo of the actress Julie Christie,
who lives nearby.


Instead he was faced with a brutal illustration of life in modern
Britain as gang warfare erupted around him in broad daylight.


In one picture, a gang member threatens another with a screwdriver,
while in another, even a Wellington boot is used as a makeshift
weapon.


Some of the gang members wear masks as they charge down the street
waving sticks and other assorted weapons.


The dramatic confrontation took place yesterday afternoon in streets
near Columbia Road, in East London, home to the popular Sunday
morning
flower market.


The battle lasted around 20 minutes and involved at least 10 youths.


According to reports the fight appeared to have its origins in a
dispute between a local Asian man and some youths who he had accused
of vandalising his property.


While the area lies in the heart of London's East End, its terraced
houses sell for up to a million pounds each and it is surrounded by
fashionable cafes and shops which have sprung up around the flower
market.


Scotland Yard said it had received numerous calls about the battle
and
officers were investigating.

jonah@robbiekeane.zzn.com wrote:

> Allright i'll cut the bullshit

That would make a change.

Obviously you are too young to remember that this kind of thing has been
going on since time immemorial. E.g. in more recent times (but probably
when you were a baby) one remembers the Mods and the Rockers having a go,
and before them the Teds (who became the Rockers).

But then, your memory is probably selective because you approve of white
minority and racist gang violence, being an Ulster white boy.

So let's hope that you'll cut the bullshit in future, too, although I'm not
holding my breath.

-- 
Facts are sacred ... but comment is free

jonah@robbiekeane.zzn.com wrote:
> Yeah, I know the Krays were white and there have been plenty of white
> footie holligans, but I thought that in
> enriched multicult Britian ethnics lived in harmony together?
> 
> Allright i'll cut the bullshit, my monies on the asians even though
> the black gangsters have had more recent battle experience - Notting
> Hill riots and all the knife crime.
> 
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/04/article-0-0284C95300000578-...
> 
> Armed with metal poles, sticks, a screwdriver and even Wellington
> boots, two gangs of black and Asian youths fight it out in broad
> daylight on the streets of London.
> 
> 
> The terrifying scenes were captured by a photographer who had been
> waiting in the street to take a photo of the actress Julie Christie,
> who lives nearby.

The Mail is probably terrified by the existence of blacks, Asians and 
youths, rather than the violence. Good to see there was a house price 
angle though.



-- 
Arthur Figgis               Surrey, UK

jonah@robbiekeane.zzn.com wrote:
> Yeah, I know the Krays were white and there have been plenty of white
> footie holligans, but I thought that in
> enriched multicult Britian ethnics lived in harmony together?
> 
> Allright i'll cut the bullshit, my monies on the asians even though
> the black gangsters have had more recent battle experience - Notting
> Hill riots and all the knife crime.
> 
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/04/article-0-0284C95300000578-...
> 
> Armed with metal poles, sticks, a screwdriver and even Wellington
> boots, two gangs of black and Asian youths fight it out in broad
> daylight on the streets of London.
> 
> 
> The terrifying scenes were captured by a photographer who had been
> waiting in the street to take a photo of the actress Julie Christie,
> who lives nearby.
> 
> 
> Instead he was faced with a brutal illustration of life in modern
> Britain as gang warfare erupted around him in broad daylight.
> 
> 
> In one picture, a gang member threatens another with a screwdriver,
> while in another, even a Wellington boot is used as a makeshift
> weapon.
> 
> 
> Some of the gang members wear masks as they charge down the street
> waving sticks and other assorted weapons.
> 
> 
> The dramatic confrontation took place yesterday afternoon in streets
> near Columbia Road, in East London, home to the popular Sunday
> morning
> flower market.
> 
> 
> The battle lasted around 20 minutes and involved at least 10 youths.
> 
> 
> According to reports the fight appeared to have its origins in a
> dispute between a local Asian man and some youths who he had accused
> of vandalising his property.
> 
> 
> While the area lies in the heart of London's East End, its terraced
> houses sell for up to a million pounds each and it is surrounded by
> fashionable cafes and shops which have sprung up around the flower
> market.
> 
> 
> Scotland Yard said it had received numerous calls about the battle
> and
> officers were investigating.
> 
> 
Wow, sounds like these savage little monkeys can use a serious upgrade 
in armaments, the better to slay themselves with.

In message 
, 
jonah@robbiekeane.zzn.com writes
>Yeah, I know the Krays were white

And gay.


The Richardson gang were also white.
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On 4 Sep, 18:35, Robin T Cox  wrote:
> jo...@robbiekeane.zzn.com wrote:
> > Allright i'll cut the bullshit
>
> That would make a change.
>
> Obviously you are too young to remember that this kind of thing has been
> going on since time immemorial. E.g. in more recent times (but probably
> when you were a baby) one remembers the Mods and the Rockers having a go,
> and before them the Teds (who became the Rockers).
>
> But then, your memory is probably selective because you approve of white
> minority and racist gang violence, being an Ulster white boy.

I don't approve of any violence other than that to protect your person
and property.
Apparently the trouble in the east end was concerning the damaging of
an asians family's
property by some black youths, note how the fighting was split along
ethnic lines. Race is a reality
always have been alway will be, regardless of what the fluffy liberal
social engineers try to pretend. And those of one
race and culture will always tend to and prefer to associate and live
amongst there own kind, just as nature intended.
No one can fight against nature, not even Carl Marx or Harriet harman,
nature always wins.

Credos to them asians for sticking together and protecting themselves
and there property. But if they were whites doing the same
think they would be called racist by the liberal sicko's





>
> So let's hope that you'll cut the bullshit in future, too, although I'm not
> holding my breath.
>
> --
> Facts are sacred ... but comment is free

The link to the Daily Mail article got truncated somehow. Here it is in 3 
pieces:
...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1052344/Gang-
warfare-streets-London-Asian-black-youths-battle-
outside-Julie-Christies-house.html

Somebody got some pretty good pics of the battle.

For a laugh, Google on the phrase "French youths" and see what comes up. :D

Arthur Figgis wrote:

> The Mail is probably terrified by the existence of blacks, Asians and 
> youths, rather than the violence. Good to see there was a house price 
> angle though.

"The ideal Daily Mail story," a former Mail journalist told me, "should 
leave you hating someone or something" - this, at least, was the advice 
he was given by his sub-editor at the time.

see http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/aug/20/mydailyhell

anyone that takes anything in the Daily Mail as a starting point for 
debate should seriously consider their position...

T

jonah@robbiekeane.zzn.com wrote:

> On 4 Sep, 18:35, Robin T Cox  wrote:
>> jo...@robbiekeane.zzn.com wrote:
>> > Allright i'll cut the bullshit
>>
>> That would make a change.
>>
>> Obviously you are too young to remember that this kind of thing has been
>> going on since time immemorial. E.g. in more recent times (but probably
>> when you were a baby) one remembers the Mods and the Rockers having a go,
>> and before them the Teds (who became the Rockers).
>>
>> But then, your memory is probably selective because you approve of white
>> minority and racist gang violence, being an Ulster white boy.
> 
> I don't approve of any violence other than that to protect your person
> and property.
> Apparently the trouble in the east end was concerning the damaging of
> an asians family's
> property by some black youths, note how the fighting was split along
> ethnic lines. Race is a reality
> always have been alway will be, regardless of what the fluffy liberal
> social engineers try to pretend. And those of one
> race and culture will always tend to and prefer to associate and live
> amongst there own kind, just as nature intended.
> No one can fight against nature, not even Carl Marx or Harriet harman,
> nature always wins.
> 
> Credos to them asians for sticking together and protecting themselves
> and there property. But if they were whites doing the same
> think they would be called racist by the liberal sicko's
> 
> 

So by your own admission, the issue was not race as such but culture, and
the colour of the participants' skins was irrelevant.

-- 
Facts are sacred ... but comment is free

On 5 Sep, 17:29, Tony B  wrote:
> Arthur Figgis wrote:
> > The Mail is probably terrified by the existence of blacks, Asians and
> > youths, rather than the violence. Good to see there was a house price
> > angle though.
>
> "The ideal Daily Mail story," a former Mail journalist told me, "should
> leave you hating someone or something" - this, at least, was the advice
> he was given by his sub-editor at the time.
>
> seehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/aug/20/mydailyhell
>
> anyone that takes anything in the Daily Mail as a starting point for
> debate should seriously consider their position...
>
> T

From the Guardian!! The tory mail is bad enough but in comparison the
guardian makes it look respectable.
Didn't they have a poll once were 80% of it's readers said they vote
labour and also supported the iraq war?
Crackpots

"jonah"  wrote in message 
news:780558f4-03af-44af-8e20-090e339b6d94@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On 5 Sep, 17:29, Tony B  wrote:
>> Arthur Figgis wrote:
>> > The Mail is probably terrified by the existence of blacks, Asians and
>> > youths, rather than the violence. Good to see there was a house price
>> > angle though.
>>
>> "The ideal Daily Mail story," a former Mail journalist told me, "should
>> leave you hating someone or something" - this, at least, was the advice
>> he was given by his sub-editor at the time.
>>
>> seehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/aug/20/mydailyhell
>>
>> anyone that takes anything in the Daily Mail as a starting point for
>> debate should seriously consider their position...
>>
>> T
>
> From the Guardian!! The tory mail is bad enough but in comparison the
> guardian makes it look respectable.
> Didn't they have a poll once were 80% of it's readers said they vote
> labour and also supported the iraq war?
> Crackpots

No. Remind me...

In message 
, 
jonah  writes
>On 5 Sep, 17:29, Tony B  wrote:
>> Arthur Figgis wrote:
>> > The Mail is probably terrified by the existence of blacks, Asians and
>> > youths, rather than the violence. Good to see there was a house price
>> > angle though.
>>
>> "The ideal Daily Mail story," a former Mail journalist told me, "should
>> leave you hating someone or something" - this, at least, was the advice
>> he was given by his sub-editor at the time.
>>
>> seehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/aug/20/mydailyhell
>>
>> anyone that takes anything in the Daily Mail as a starting point for
>> debate should seriously consider their position...
>>
>> T
>
>From the Guardian!! The tory mail is bad enough but in comparison the
>guardian makes it look respectable.
>Didn't they have a poll once were 80% of it's readers said they vote
>labour and also supported the iraq war?
>Crackpots

I think you will find it was 80% supported Labour  but did NOT support 
the Iraq war.

At no time has more than 20% of the UK EVER supported the invasion of 
Iraq.

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\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
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"Robin T Cox"  wrote in message 
news:30Vvk.53065$E41.13304@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> jonah@robbiekeane.zzn.com wrote:
>
>> Allright i'll cut the bullshit
>
> That would make a change.
>
> Obviously you are too young to remember that this kind of thing has been
> going on since time immemorial. E.g. in more recent times (but probably
> when you were a baby) one remembers the Mods and the Rockers having a go,
> and before them the Teds (who became the Rockers).

You sound proud of the fact, Cox.  Why is that?

George

On 6 Sep, 08:47, Chris H  wrote:
> In message
> ,
> jonah  writes
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 5 Sep, 17:29, Tony B  wrote:
> >> Arthur Figgis wrote:
> >> > The Mail is probably terrified by the existence of blacks, Asians and
> >> > youths, rather than the violence. Good to see there was a house price
> >> > angle though.
>
> >> "The ideal Daily Mail story," a former Mail journalist told me, "should
> >> leave you hating someone or something" - this, at least, was the advice
> >> he was given by his sub-editor at the time.
>
> >> seehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/aug/20/mydailyhell
>
> >> anyone that takes anything in the Daily Mail as a starting point for
> >> debate should seriously consider their position...
>
> >> T
>
> >From the Guardian!! The tory mail is bad enough but in comparison the
> >guardian makes it look respectable.
> >Didn't they have a poll once were 80% of it's readers said they vote
> >labour and also supported the iraq war?
> >Crackpots
>
> I think you will find it was 80% supported Labour  but did NOT support
> the Iraq war.

So they did not support the iraq war, but supported those who started
the iraq war?


>
> At no time has more than 20% of the UK EVER supported the invasion of
> Iraq.
>
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jonah wrote:

> So they did not support the iraq war, but supported those who started
> the iraq war?

New Labour did not start the war; they merely hung onto Bush's coat 
tails like compliant puppy dogs looking for approval (which has still 
not been forthcoming).

New Labour supporters outside of parliament were critical of UK 
involvement (there were millions on marches protesting against it) but 
the toadying bastards in the parliamentary party were easily whipped 
into line by der Fuhrer and are thus complicit in all subsequent crimes.

Here in the UK politics is nominally inclusive. Policy in the Labour 
party has traditionally been implemented from the bottom up; the party 
was formed by grassroots organisations who wanted a voice. I think this 
goes some way towards explaining your incredulity that someone could 
support the party but not the policy - perhaps you are more used to 
Presidential diktats that are to be heeded and party lines that are to 
be towed, no matter what... it seems we in the UK (or at least, 
England..) are headed your way fast but ordinary voters/supporters still 
seem keen to hang on to that pretence of involvement and are thus able 
to support the party on the understanding that their involvement could 
actually, like, you know, make a difference.

Hopefully our best people will not be under such illusions for very long.

T

In message 
, 
jonah  writes
>On 6 Sep, 08:47, Chris H  wrote:
>> In message
>> ,
>> jonah  writes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On 5 Sep, 17:29, Tony B  wrote:
>> >> Arthur Figgis wrote:
>> >> > The Mail is probably terrified by the existence of blacks, Asians and
>> >> > youths, rather than the violence. Good to see there was a house price
>> >> > angle though.
>>
>> >> "The ideal Daily Mail story," a former Mail journalist told me, "should
>> >> leave you hating someone or something" - this, at least, was the advice
>> >> he was given by his sub-editor at the time.
>>
>> >> seehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/aug/20/mydailyhell
>>
>> >> anyone that takes anything in the Daily Mail as a starting point for
>> >> debate should seriously consider their position...
>>
>> >> T
>>
>> >From the Guardian!! The tory mail is bad enough but in comparison the
>> >guardian makes it look respectable.
>> >Didn't they have a poll once were 80% of it's readers said they vote
>> >labour and also supported the iraq war?
>> >Crackpots
>>
>> I think you will find it was 80% supported Labour  but did NOT support
>> the Iraq war.
>
>So they did not support the iraq war, but supported those who started
>the iraq war?

No.  I said 80% were labour supporters. Not that they supported Blair.
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