This is just the type of shit the ultra gullible Hippyites swallow up 
whole, without even chewing - And then promptly proceed to dutifully 
regurgitate it upon others.
"1,000's dead, town brutally flattened to the ground, ETHNIC CLEANSING 
IT LOOKS LIKE STALINGRAD OH MY GOD BRING IN THE TROOPS!!"
Their mock justification of their hypocritical support of armed 
intervention on a selective basis might be going up into thin air, as 
facts and not cheap battlefield propaganda begin to emerge.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

South Ossetian city Russians claim was leveled still standing

By TOM LASSETER
McClatchy Newspapers

As Russian troops pounded through Georgia last week, the Kremlin and its 
allies repeatedly pointed to one justification above all others: The 
Georgian military had destroyed the city of Tskhinvali.

Russian politicians and their partners in Tskhinvali, the capital of the 
breakaway region South Ossetia, said that when Georgian forces tried to 
seize control of the city and the surrounding area, the physical damage 
was comparable to Stalingrad and the killings similar to the Holocaust.

But a trip to the city on Sunday, without official minders, revealed a 
very different picture. While it was clear there had been heavy fighting 
- missiles knocked holes in walls, and bombs tore away rooftops - almost 
all of the buildings seen in an afternoon driving around Tskhinvali were 
still standing.

Russian-backed leaders in South Ossetia have said that 2,100 people died 
in fighting in Tskhinvali and nearby villages. But a doctor at the 
city's main hospital, the only one open during the battles that began 
late on Aug. 7, said the facility recorded just 40 deaths.

The discrepancy between the numbers at Tskhinvali's main hospital and 
the rhetoric of Russian and South Ossetian leaders raises serious 
questions about the veracity of the Kremlin's version of events. Russian 
Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and other senior officials in Moscow have 
said the Georgians were guilty of "genocide," prompting their forces to 
push Georgia's military out of South Ossetia - in a barrage of bombing 
runs and tanks blasts - and march southeast toward the Georgian capital, 
Tbilisi, stopping only 25 miles away.

That explanation, that Russians were saving South Ossetians from total 
annihilation, undergirded Moscow's rationale for the invasion.

Georgia's leadership maintains the war was launched by the Kremlin 
because of longstanding resentment about the former Soviet republic's 
close ties with the West.

Since Russian troops occupied much of Georgia last week, Kremlin 
officials have suggested strongly that both South Ossetia and its fellow 
rebel region, Abkhazia, should gain independence from Tbilisi.

A senior member of Russia's parliament, Konstantin Zatulin, was in 
Tskhinvali on Sunday. "We need to recognize reality," he said, meaning 
that South Ossetia should secede from Georgia.

Zatulin also said that the Russian government intended to spend some 
$100 million on building a "Moscow district" in the city; he did not 
explain what that would entail.

Russian troops have kept tight control on access to Tskhinvali, often 
bringing reporters in on coordinated trips. A McClatchy Newspapers 
journalist was stopped at a checkpoint on the way out of Tskhinvali and 
directed back to a Russian outpost, where officers demanded to know 
where the journalist had been and whom he'd interviewed. In addition to 
Russian soldiers, South Ossetian militia fighters roamed the streets. 
One of them, drunk, walked up and showed off a shiny watch. "I got it 
from the body of a Georgian soldier," he said with a smile.


The difference between Russian officials' description of Tskhinvali and 
the facts on the ground are profound.

Col. Gen Anatoly Nogovitsyn, the deputy head of the Russian military's 
general staff, said last Tuesday that "Tskhinvali doesn't exist, it's 
like Stalingrad was after the war."

But in fact, the city still does exist. While there was extensive damage 
to some structures, most buildings had front doors on their hinges and 
standing walls. For every building charred by explosions - the Georgians 
are accused of using multiple rocket launcher systems - there were 
others on tree-lined streets that looked untouched.

One government center was hollowed out by blasts, but the one next to it 
teemed with workers.

While the city was still teetering from the violence, families sat on 
benches in front of their homes and ate fruit. Many talked about the 
Georgian incursion on Aug. 7, and the Russian units that then streamed 
across Georgia's border to beat them back.

"There were Georgian tanks on each street," said Givi Tsekhov, who was 
walking in front of his apartment building. "But then the Russians came."

Down the road from Tskhinvali, in Georgian areas now occupied by Russian 
troops, entire towns were almost completely empty and a few bodies were 
splayed on the side of the road, bloated and cooked by the sun.

Not only was the destruction in Tskhinvali a far cry from Stalingrad 
after World War II, it was well short of what happened in the southern 
Beirut suburbs during Israel's war with Hezbollah in the summer of 2006, 
or the Iraqi city of Fallujah during U.S. fighting against insurgents in 
November 2004.

In short, the city was scarred but still standing.

The doctor at the Tskhinvali hospital, Tina Zakharova, said she wanted 
to clarify that she wasn't disagreeing with the South Ossetian 
officials' numbers, adding that many bodies had been buried in gardens 
and cemeteries in outlying villages. She could not, however, explain how 
more than 2,000 dead - the difference between her hospital's count and 
the Kremlin-backed officials' tally - were buried in a relatively small 
area without any evidence such as stacks of coffins or mass funerals.


Researchers for Human Rights Watch, an international advocacy group, had 
similar findings as McClatchy about casualty numbers in Tskhinvali. A 
doctor at the city's hospital told the group's researchers that 44 
bodies were brought by and was "adamant" that they represented the 
majority of deaths there because the city's morgue was not functioning 
at the time.

"Obviously there's a discrepancy there, a big discrepancy," Rachel 
Denber, deputy director for Europe and Central Asia at Human Rights 
Watch, said about the apparently inflated casualty figures. "It's not 
clear to us at all where those numbers are coming from."

http://www.kansascity.com/451/story/752960.html

"Jesse"  wrote ...

> This is just the type of shit the ultra gullible Hippyites swallow up
> whole, without even chewing - And then promptly proceed to dutifully
> regurgitate it upon others.

ROTFLMAO.

You really are grasping at straws and lying through your back teeth. Where
have I even mentioned any claims of "genocide", let alone regurgitate what
anyone else said about that ? I haven't.

Jesse, you're a LIAR.

Where have I made any reference to Stalingrad ? I haven't.

Jesse, you're a LIAR.


> "1,000's dead, town brutally flattened to the ground, ETHNIC CLEANSING
> IT LOOKS LIKE STALINGRAD OH MY GOD BRING IN THE TROOPS!!"
> Their mock justification of their hypocritical support of armed
> intervention on a selective basis might be going up into thin air, as
> facts and not cheap battlefield propaganda begin to emerge.

Funnily enough we can say exactly the same about the US's response.

And what "mock justification" are you talking about ?  I haven't claimed
"Ethnic cleansing" nor cities "flattened" as a justification, I don't recall
anyone else in this group claiming that either.

Jesse, you're a LIAR and a FUCKIN' IDIOT.

The Happy Hippy wrote:
> "Jesse"  wrote ...
> 
>> This is just the type of shit the ultra gullible Hippyites swallow up
>> whole, without even chewing - And then promptly proceed to dutifully
>> regurgitate it upon others.
> 
> ROTFLMAO.
> 
> You really are grasping at straws and lying through your back teeth. Where
> have I even mentioned any claims of "genocide", let alone regurgitate what
> anyone else said about that ? I haven't.
> 
> Jesse, you're a LIAR.
> 
> Where have I made any reference to Stalingrad ? I haven't.
> 
> Jesse, you're a LIAR.
> 
> 
>> "1,000's dead, town brutally flattened to the ground, ETHNIC CLEANSING
>> IT LOOKS LIKE STALINGRAD OH MY GOD BRING IN THE TROOPS!!"
>> Their mock justification of their hypocritical support of armed
>> intervention on a selective basis might be going up into thin air, as
>> facts and not cheap battlefield propaganda begin to emerge.
> 
> Funnily enough we can say exactly the same about the US's response.
> 
> And what "mock justification" are you talking about ?  I haven't claimed
> "Ethnic cleansing" nor cities "flattened" as a justification, I don't recall
> anyone else in this group claiming that either.
> 
> Jesse, you're a LIAR and a FUCKIN' IDIOT.

The Commies ARE claiming that, King Sped - And you are backing up their 
power play in Georgia on the basis of it being some kind of self defense 
against the rampaging Georgians ... Do I really have to explain your own 
positions from 3 days ago to you ?

Did you read the article, Hippycrit ?
If true, would you continue to back Russia, Hippycrit ?

"Jesse"  wrote ....

> >> "1,000's dead, town brutally flattened to the ground, ETHNIC CLEANSING
> >> IT LOOKS LIKE STALINGRAD OH MY GOD BRING IN THE TROOPS!!"

> > Jesse, you're a LIAR and a FUCKIN' IDIOT.
>
> The Commies ARE claiming that

But I'm not, which makes you a LIAR when you say I'm regurgitating such
claims. Are you going for Olympic Gold in lying and stupidity ?

Jesse wrote:
> The Happy Hippy wrote:
>> "Jesse"  wrote ...
>>
>>> This is just the type of shit the ultra gullible Hippyites swallow up
>>> whole, without even chewing - And then promptly proceed to dutifully
>>> regurgitate it upon others.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO.
>>
>> You really are grasping at straws and lying through your back teeth. 
>> Where
>> have I even mentioned any claims of "genocide", let alone regurgitate 
>> what
>> anyone else said about that ? I haven't.
>>
>> Jesse, you're a LIAR.
>>
>> Where have I made any reference to Stalingrad ? I haven't.
>>
>> Jesse, you're a LIAR.
>>
>>
>>> "1,000's dead, town brutally flattened to the ground, ETHNIC CLEANSING
>>> IT LOOKS LIKE STALINGRAD OH MY GOD BRING IN THE TROOPS!!"
>>> Their mock justification of their hypocritical support of armed
>>> intervention on a selective basis might be going up into thin air, as
>>> facts and not cheap battlefield propaganda begin to emerge.
>>
>> Funnily enough we can say exactly the same about the US's response.
>>
>> And what "mock justification" are you talking about ?  I haven't claimed
>> "Ethnic cleansing" nor cities "flattened" as a justification, I don't 
>> recall
>> anyone else in this group claiming that either.
>>
>> Jesse, you're a LIAR and a FUCKIN' IDIOT.
> 
> The Commies ARE claiming that, King Sped - And you are backing up their 
> power play in Georgia on the basis of it being some kind of self defense 
> against the rampaging Georgians ... Do I really have to explain your own 
> positions from 3 days ago to you ?
> 
> Did you read the article, Hippycrit ?
> If true, would you continue to back Russia, Hippycrit ?

Afraid of simple questions, little man ?

"Jesse"  wrote ...

> > Did you read the article, Hippycrit ?
> > If true, would you continue to back Russia, Hippycrit ?
>
> Afraid of simple questions, little man ?

No. Try some civility, American ass wipe.

The Happy Hippy wrote:
> "Jesse"  wrote ...
> 
>>> Did you read the article, Hippycrit ?  No
>>> If true, would you continue to back Russia, Hippycrit ?  Yes
>> Afraid of simple questions, little man ?
> 
> No. Try some civility, American ass wipe.

If the shoe fits, wear it bitch.

The Happy Hippy wrote:
> "Jesse"  wrote ...
> 
>>> Did you read the article, Hippycrit ?
>>> If true, would you continue to back Russia, Hippycrit ?
>> Afraid of simple questions, little man ?
> 
> No. Try some civility, American ass wipe.


Hippys idea of civility, threatening with death the wife of another poster:

  Thur, 03 Aug 2006 14:38:08 GMT
  the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.com wrote:

"I can slaughter Jews if you want, and I can do it far nearer to home. I 
can deliver you a veritable bloodbath of dead Jews if you want; men, 
women and children,. Even their pets too, if that's what you want. How 
about we start with your wife ?

Or maybe you are hoping that Israel will be your proxy killing machine ?

Well fuck you George. I know you are sick in mind and body and maybe 
that's because the God you don't believe in has chosen to lay you low 
like the worthless piece of shit you are. You want to see blood flowing 
? That can be arranged. Maybe I should come round and wipe the whole 
sickening stain of the Yates family away, and show you and your Zionist 
war-mongering buddies exactly what this death and destruction you are 
cheer-leading for really means ? What do you think Ron ? "

http://tinyurl.com/57z4wk


Nice blast from the past, huh ?
Any more lessons, Hippycrit ?

"Jesse"  went into a wanking spasm with ...

> The Happy Hippy wrote:
> > "Jesse"  wrote ...
> >
> >>> Did you read the article, Hippycrit ?
> >>> If true, would you continue to back Russia, Hippycrit ?
> >> Afraid of simple questions, little man ?
> >
> > No. Try some civility, American ass wipe.
>
>
> Hippys idea of civility, threatening with death the wife of another
poster:
>
>   Thur, 03 Aug 2006 14:38:08 GMT
>   the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.com wrote:
>
> "I can slaughter Jews if you want, and I can do it far nearer to home. I
> can deliver you a veritable bloodbath of dead Jews if you want; men,
> women and children,. Even their pets too, if that's what you want. How
> about we start with your wife ?
>
> Or maybe you are hoping that Israel will be your proxy killing machine ?
>
> Well fuck you George. I know you are sick in mind and body and maybe
> that's because the God you don't believe in has chosen to lay you low
> like the worthless piece of shit you are. You want to see blood flowing
> ? That can be arranged. Maybe I should come round and wipe the whole
> sickening stain of the Yates family away, and show you and your Zionist
> war-mongering buddies exactly what this death and destruction you are
> cheer-leading for really means ? What do you think Ron ? "
>
> http://tinyurl.com/57z4wk
>
>
> Nice blast from the past, huh ?
> Any more lessons, Hippycrit ?

FFS, Jesse; your comprehension is no better now than it was then. It's not
my fault you Americans are too stupid to be able to distinguish hyperbole
and scenario from threat.

I recall it was said my ISP was going to cut me off and I'd be in prsion by
the end of the week. Unsurprisingly the Net Cops were wrong.

Oh yes; you forgot to mention that was in response to George expressing his
hope that I'd been killed by Israelis.

The Happy Hippy wrote:
> "Jesse"  went into a wanking spasm with ...
> 
>> The Happy Hippy wrote:
>>> "Jesse"  wrote ...
>>>
>>>>> Did you read the article, Hippycrit ?
>>>>> If true, would you continue to back Russia, Hippycrit ?
>>>> Afraid of simple questions, little man ?
>>> No. Try some civility, American ass wipe.
>>
>> Hippys idea of civility, threatening with death the wife of another
> poster:
>>   Thur, 03 Aug 2006 14:38:08 GMT
>>   the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.com wrote:
>>
>> "I can slaughter Jews if you want, and I can do it far nearer to home. I
>> can deliver you a veritable bloodbath of dead Jews if you want; men,
>> women and children,. Even their pets too, if that's what you want. How
>> about we start with your wife ?
>>
>> Or maybe you are hoping that Israel will be your proxy killing machine ?
>>
>> Well fuck you George. I know you are sick in mind and body and maybe
>> that's because the God you don't believe in has chosen to lay you low
>> like the worthless piece of shit you are. You want to see blood flowing
>> ? That can be arranged. Maybe I should come round and wipe the whole
>> sickening stain of the Yates family away, and show you and your Zionist
>> war-mongering buddies exactly what this death and destruction you are
>> cheer-leading for really means ? What do you think Ron ? "
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/57z4wk
>>
>>
>> Nice blast from the past, huh ?
>> Any more lessons, Hippycrit ?
> 
> FFS, Jesse; your comprehension is no better now than it was then. It's not
> my fault you Americans are too stupid to be able to distinguish hyperbole
> and scenario from threat.

Horse shit - A clear case of net rage, and you damn well know it.
Sheesh, what a loser, trying to deny that you were even mad or serious.
You blew your stack & drastically over-reacted hippy, time to admit it 
and move on.

BTW, your over-use of the word "comprehension" is getting pretty 
noticeable, you might want to think of another synonym, if possible ... 
If only for the sake of variety.

http://tinyurl.com/5m7vd8

> I recall it was said my ISP was going to cut me off and I'd be in prsion by
> the end of the week. Unsurprisingly the Net Cops were wrong.
> 
> Oh yes; you forgot to mention that was in response to George expressing his
> hope that I'd been killed by Israelis.

His comment which provoked you in to net rage, of:

"Maybe he took up our challenge, and joined his Hezbullah friends on the
front lines.  One can only hope. "

Was clearly ridiculous jest, and expressed no such hope.
Simply a teasing was of saying that maybe you had finally put your money 
where your mouth is, and joined those whom you have been rooting for for 
years.
Who knows, maybe you would be legend by now, if you did ?
Couldn't be that many jew fighting hippy terrorists in action around.

In message <9NZqk.546867$fz6.199030@fe08.news.easynews.com>, Jesse 
 writes
>The Happy Hippy wrote:
>> "Jesse"  went into a wanking spasm with ...
>>
>>> The Happy Hippy wrote:
>>>> "Jesse"  wrote ...
>>>>
>>>>>> Did you read the article, Hippycrit ?
>>>>>> If true, would you continue to back Russia, Hippycrit ?
>>>>> Afraid of simple questions, little man ?
>>>> No. Try some civility, American ass wipe.
>>>
>>> Hippys idea of civility, threatening with death the wife of another
>> poster:
>>>   Thur, 03 Aug 2006 14:38:08 GMT
>>>   the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.com wrote:
>>>
>>> "I can slaughter Jews if you want, and I can do it far nearer to home. I
>>> can deliver you a veritable bloodbath of dead Jews if you want; men,
>>> women and children,. Even their pets too, if that's what you want. How
>>> about we start with your wife ?
>>>
>>> Or maybe you are hoping that Israel will be your proxy killing machine ?
>>>
>>> Well fuck you George. I know you are sick in mind and body and maybe
>>> that's because the God you don't believe in has chosen to lay you low
>>> like the worthless piece of shit you are. You want to see blood flowing
>>> ? That can be arranged. Maybe I should come round and wipe the whole
>>> sickening stain of the Yates family away, and show you and your Zionist
>>> war-mongering buddies exactly what this death and destruction you are
>>> cheer-leading for really means ? What do you think Ron ? "
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/57z4wk
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice blast from the past, huh ?
>>> Any more lessons, Hippycrit ?
>>  FFS, Jesse; your comprehension is no better now than it was then. 
>>It's not
>> my fault you Americans are too stupid to be able to distinguish hyperbole
>> and scenario from threat.
>
>Horse shit - A clear case of net rage, and you damn well know it.
>Sheesh, what a loser, trying to deny that you were even mad or serious.
>You blew your stack & drastically over-reacted hippy, time to admit it 
>and move on.
>
>BTW, your over-use of the word "comprehension" is getting pretty 
>noticeable, you might want to think of another synonym, if possible ... 
>If only for the sake of variety.

Ok Jesse is stupid.


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"Jesse"  wrote ..

> His comment which provoked you in to net rage, of:
>
> "Maybe he took up our challenge, and joined his Hezbullah friends on the
> front lines.  One can only hope. "
>
> Was clearly ridiculous jest, and expressed no such hope.

As always, you apply one rule for those you agree with and another for
everyone else, and let's not forget your own threats shall we.

Sure, I was fucked off with Yates and his desire to see me die, and more
than fucked off when that was thrown back in his face, to illustrate what it
was he was in glee over, he went crying to my ISP's abuse dpartment like the
spineless tosser he is. He's just another USian usenet rambo who likes to
dish it out but cannot take it in return. Why do you think I haven't
responded to his posts of the last two years ? He's a waste of space and
you're no better.

If you want to keep arguing the toss, you can do so with yourself because
I'm borded of your childish games, ultra-facism, racism and kindergarten
mentality. Grow up for fuck's sake. You're an embarassment to the image of
America.

The Happy Hippy wrote:
> "Jesse"  wrote ..
> 
>> His comment which provoked you in to net rage, of:
>>
>> "Maybe he took up our challenge, and joined his Hezbullah friends on the
>> front lines.  One can only hope. "
>>
>> Was clearly ridiculous jest, and expressed no such hope.
> 
> As always, you apply one rule for those you agree with and another for
> everyone else, and let's not forget your own threats shall we.

Not really.
I think George is a flying dingbat, and have said so many times.
I even sent him my phone number one time via private email and dared him 
to call, he never did.
He, like you, cannot take the heat and has girlishly kill-filed me, or 
so he claims ... I would have a hard time to pick which of you two is 
more the complete ass, not sure why you think I'd show any special 
preference to him, of all people.
FACE is another pure jackass whom I've had issues with - Unlike you, I 
don't snuggle up with someone just because we happen to reside within 
the same country, or even because a majority of our views may happen to 
be the same. I do not look at excessive partisanship as a virtue.
I am merely being objective, as is usually the case.

You were wrong to react the way you did, I respectfully said so at the 
time, and not so respectfully say so now.
Once spoken [written], you become a prisoner of your words - And the 
only ones who get free passes on that are the very young, the very old, 
and those of unsound mind.
I don't presume you in any of those categories.

> Why do you think I haven't
> responded to his posts of the last two years ? 

Not sure.
You usually do that when you get successively punked, and have the 
choice of either acting like a childish jackass, or say nothing.

If pressed, I would have to guess that you feel shame deep down inside 
for your vile words, and rather than admit you were wrong like a man, 
you take refuge in silence and ignorance ... As if he does not exist, 
and as if you have never said what you did.

> If you want to keep arguing the toss, you can do so with yourself

There you go again, running away.
I am truly discerning a pattern here.
If you are intent on running, I'd say much better just to go without 
your typical fanfare.

> because
> I'm borded of your childish games, ultra-facism, racism and kindergarten
> mentality. Grow up for fuck's sake. You're an embarassment to the image of
> America.

Oh yes, I point out your blatant, well known hypocrisy by showing that 
you are not quite the person to be offering lessons in civility ... And 
its all my fault.

Chris H wrote:
> In message <9NZqk.546867$fz6.199030@fe08.news.easynews.com>, Jesse 
>  writes
>> The Happy Hippy wrote:
>>> "Jesse"  went into a wanking spasm with ...
>>>
>>>> The Happy Hippy wrote:
>>>>> "Jesse"  wrote ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you read the article, Hippycrit ?
>>>>>>> If true, would you continue to back Russia, Hippycrit ?
>>>>>> Afraid of simple questions, little man ?
>>>>> No. Try some civility, American ass wipe.
>>>>
>>>> Hippys idea of civility, threatening with death the wife of another
>>> poster:
>>>>   Thur, 03 Aug 2006 14:38:08 GMT
>>>>   the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "I can slaughter Jews if you want, and I can do it far nearer to 
>>>> home. I
>>>> can deliver you a veritable bloodbath of dead Jews if you want; men,
>>>> women and children,. Even their pets too, if that's what you want. How
>>>> about we start with your wife ?
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe you are hoping that Israel will be your proxy killing 
>>>> machine ?
>>>>
>>>> Well fuck you George. I know you are sick in mind and body and maybe
>>>> that's because the God you don't believe in has chosen to lay you low
>>>> like the worthless piece of shit you are. You want to see blood flowing
>>>> ? That can be arranged. Maybe I should come round and wipe the whole
>>>> sickening stain of the Yates family away, and show you and your Zionist
>>>> war-mongering buddies exactly what this death and destruction you are
>>>> cheer-leading for really means ? What do you think Ron ? "
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/57z4wk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice blast from the past, huh ?
>>>> Any more lessons, Hippycrit ?
>>>  FFS, Jesse; your comprehension is no better now than it was then. 
>>> It's not
>>> my fault you Americans are too stupid to be able to distinguish 
>>> hyperbole
>>> and scenario from threat.
>>
>> Horse shit - A clear case of net rage, and you damn well know it.
>> Sheesh, what a loser, trying to deny that you were even mad or serious.
>> You blew your stack & drastically over-reacted hippy, time to admit it 
>> and move on.
>>
>> BTW, your over-use of the word "comprehension" is getting pretty 
>> noticeable, you might want to think of another synonym, if possible 
>> ... If only for the sake of variety.
> 
> Ok Jesse is stupid.
> 
> 
Lol,,, Hippy doesn't even have to hint for you to jump now, you do it as 
a matter of routine - Chrissy, the trained attack poodle !