Re: Inaccuracies in Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth
On 9 Nov, 01:43, "William A. T. Clark" <clarknos...@masceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article ,
>
> freeireland wrote:
>
> > Again I ask you to retract your statement "There is no URL in
> > existence, and you made the post up just to denigrate an institution
> > you know absolutely nothing about (and cannot even distinguish from
> > Ohio University). You are, pure and simple, a bare faced liar. Case
> > proven and closed".
>
> > Its also clear that I posted how to find the quote I made. If you had
> > even put the first sentence of the quote into google you would have
> > found it. I have never tried to hide the source for this quote as you
> > suggest. I have no obligation to give any link to another site when
> > quoting.
>
> Oh, so there is a URL after all? Well, good, as I say if you hadn't
> refused to follow even the simplest Usenet etiquette, it would not have
> been necessary to provoke you into finally revealing this "source" that
> does more to disprove the point you were trying to make than to help it.
> I am not going to apologize to anyone who lacks even the simplest
> inkling of appropriate behavior of this forum.>
>
Again complete and utter nonsense you assumed there was no URL and
made very clear allegations that have now been proven to be incorrect.
Now please retract your slur.
You have no right to determine what is or what is not proper or
inproper usenet etiquette.
>
>
> > > > > Here it is:
>
> > > > > "I can not think of any other place that is more ideal for a college
> > > > > education. Ohio State has offered me unboundless opportunities on a
> > > > > beautiful campus, in a great city. I have not met (nor heard of) one
> > > > > student that dislikes going here. Each and every one of the students
> > > > > here is incredibly friendly and approachable. Even though the students
> > > > > are aplenty, the class sizes remain small (only one or two major
> > > > > lecture
> > > > > classes in first year). The academics are stimulating and interesting,
> > > > > something I did not especially expect coming into a university of this
> > > > > size. Ohio State offers incredible academic support...I have never gone
> > > > > into a class not understanding any of the material. The professors here
> > > > > are top-notch and truly care about their students.
>
> > > > > The school spirit here and the tradition are contagious, as people are
> > > > > overflowing with spirit for the Buckeyes. The athletic programs are
> > > > > great, with a beautiful RPAC (recreation center) and a newly built
> > > > > McCorkle Aquatic Center. The Horseshoe is one of the most exciting
> > > > > venues in all of college football. With everything that this school has
> > > > > to offer both inside and outside the classroom, I cannot fathom any
> > > > > parent who would be ashamed if their child chose to attend The Ohio
> > > > > State University, one of the fastest rising and finest universities
> > > > > this country has to offer. This truly is a special place."
>
> > > > > I await your comments on this statement with interest.
>
> > > > I find it really amusing that your quoting from a website that you
> > > > yourself claimed was a "totally worthless chat forum". So tell me
> > > > what is it a totally worthless chat forum or not?
>
> > > > Though this is just another example of trying to avoid correcting yet
> > > > another wild incorrect accusation based on nohing but assumption.
>
> > > Indeed, so against your worthless post I set many more contrary posts.
> > > Either the site is valid (you seem to think so), in which case your
> > > attempt to put a university down blows up in your face, or else we can
> > > agree that such sites are worthless, and you therefore acknowledge your
> > > post as a meaningless attempt to denigrate the university. Either way
> > > your original pose comes up way short, and looks petty and dumb.
>
> > Again more assumution, I have never claimed the web site is valid or
> > invalid. Also I have never attempted to put any university down as you
> > claim, I have quoted a student on a website which I have every right
> > to do.
>
> No, no "assumution", just the obvious that no one would invoke a web
> site to try to put a university down and then claim that they "never
> claimed it was valid or invalid". Yeah, right. Have a chat with your
> "solicitor" friend Marty about rules of evidence and hearsay.
>
Again I did not put any university down I postd a quote from a single
student.
"Yeah, right. Have a chat with your 'solicitor friend Marty about
rules of evidence and hearsay". So sue me!
>
>
> > Yet again resorting to playground name calling.
>
> > I clearly posted this particular post to see how you would respond,
> > testing to see if you would respond like an associate Dean. This is
> > what I clearly was refering to when I posted.
>
> No, you didn't - you thought it was a major slap in the face, when it
> turned out to be exactly the opposite. Oops.
>
>
>
> > "You had a prime chance to put a case forward to show how good Ohio
> > State University is though instead revert to childish name calling
> > about some person you clearly know nothing about. Clearly a associate
> > Dean would have more
> > intelligence and not be so obtuse".
>
> I have neither the interest nor the time to " put a case forward to show
> how good (The) Ohio State University is" to some one who has
> demonstrated he doesn't know the first thing about it or higher
> education. What on earth would be the point?
>
Well you have been putting a fair bit of effort into making a case as
I previously pointed out.
>
>
> > I would expect more of any offical at any university than to call a
> > student an idiot, or dismiss a website without looking at it, being
> > unable to find a website despite being informed how too and finally
> > resorting to wild assumuptions leading to directly calling a person a
> > liar when infact they where telling the truth. Even then having to be
> > asked several times to retract their assumption and correcting their
> > slur did not even have the deceny to apologise.
>
> Oh, dear, now we are playing the wounded martyr again. Boo hoo. What
> utter and total drivel.
>
A personal attack, I see originality is not one of your redeeming
characteristics.
>
>
> > > > > > > > > > Then why did you make a foolish wager you cannot win?
>
> > > > > > > > > The wager is already won - it's getting you to pay up that is
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > problem.
>
> > > > > > > > Remind me have you proven your identidy never mind that you went
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > Oxford?
>
> > > > > > > I prove it to myself every day. I prove it to every financial and
> > > > > > > governmental institution you can name, to their satisfaction, every
> > > > > > > day.
> > > > > > > You, on the other hand, seem to want to hold to a higher, nay
> > > > > > > absurd,
> > > > > > > standard. I assume this is like not wanting to publish that URL -
> > > > > > > once
> > > > > > > you accept any reasonable proof of identity, the MDA will be $100
> > > > > > > richer. Too bad for you.
>
> > > > > > Maybe then you should try and make a wager with every financial and
> > > > > > governmental institution I can name or with yourself. You have have
> > > > > > not provided any proof of identity which cannot be faked especially
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > a forum like this. You have had ample time to do so and have failed.
> > > > > > Now back up your foolish wager and donate $100 to the Foyle Hospice
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > your squirming is now becoming dull.
>
> > > > > More weaseling and welshing. Still wriggling as hard as you can go.
> > > > > Pretty funny from here, I must say.
>
> > > > > Once again, give me a URL for "Marty's" web site, and we will start the
> > > > > "identity" process. The MDA needs the money for sick children.
> > > > > Otherwise
> > > > > just admit you were wrong, apologize, and get on with your life.
>
> > > > Who said Marty has a web site. What makes you think I would give you
> > > > his contact details when I will not give you my own!
>
> > > Oh, Marty doesn't have a web site? Hmmm, why am I not surprised. If he
> > > had one, then it is out there for the entire world to access, so it
> > > would be really foolish to suppose that he would somehow come to harm if
> > > I saw it, now wouldn't it? Does he do business out of the back of a
> > > truck, or does he even exist (as a solicitor) at all? My guess is that
> > > he does not.
>
> > Well why would he have a web site, I don't have one and I bet the vast
> > majority of people on the planet don't either. So your assumution is
> > because he does not have a web site he does business out of the back
> > of a truck. Why would a solicitor in Derry need a web site.
>
> Any business or professional would have one if he existed in the 21st
> century.
>
lol, Again complete and utter assumption and nonsense. Though it is
ironic that you post this considering you use a book published in 1926
as a style guide for your English gramar.
>
>
> > Though I am not surprised you don't really have a good record of
> > making assumptions do you.
>
> Oh, I have done pretty well in assuming that you will come up with an
> infinite variety of tricks and devices to avoid facing the obvious
> consequences of your rashness on this one. Batting 100% so far.
>
>
>
> > So you want me to put a direct contact to a friend on a public forum!
> > Sorry I would not put my own up so why would you think I would put the
> > address of my friends place of work! I would not be much of a friend
> > if I did that would I.
>
> Here we go again - weasel, weasel, weasel. He is supposedly a
> professional, so I will contact him through his professional offices. He
> should be paid, too, by the loser of the wager, That's only fair, isn't
> it? He doesn't work for free, does he? If he is actually a solicitor at
> all.
>
yawn, look I will not hand out my own contact details on here and I
will certainly not be handing out a friends. You can make all the
assumptions you want we know how good at that you are. Now if you want
to prove your identity then do so! Though again you and I both know
you cannot this is why your posting all this nonsense, to avoid paying
a measly $100 dollars to a terminal illness charity.
>
>
> > > > Who makes a wager without defining any winning conditions, something
> > > > pointed out by me a while ago. Its clear you cannot even prove your
> > > > identity never mind anything else so to make a wager that depends on
> > > > it was foolish.
>
> > > > I have now shown you making spelling errors and making wild
> > > > accusations about grammar that are simply incorrect. Clearly you are
> > > > no expert on grammar. I have also shown the length you are willing to
> > > > go to save what little credibility you have left, from childish name
> > > > calling, racial insults to thinly veiled threats. You do not even
> > > > have the integrity to retract wild accusations that you made which
> > > > have now been proven wrong.
>
> > > Bluster, bluster, bluster all you will, the simple fact remains that you
> > > stuck your neck out, rose to a challenge, got royally caught, and ever
> > > since have been tying yourself in knots trying to find ways to weasel
> > > out of something you should never have said in the first place. All this
> > > other twaddle is just your feeble attempt at a smokescreen.
>
> > > The MDA is waiting.
>
> > More nonsense, ok what terms of the wager show you as winning?
>
> Everything - the facts, the details, Seimi, etc. All, in fact, but your
> refusal to see the obvious.
I have yet to see any terms that say Seimi etc decide who wins the
wager, so again I challenge you to show me the terms of the wager
which show you have won.
>
> William Clark
date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:14:41 -0800
author: freeireland
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