Re: Inaccuracies in Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth
On 8 Nov, 20:34, "William A. T. Clark" wrote:
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> > > > > Indeed, it took all that effort to force you to post the URL, when most
> > > > > people include it immediately. As it happens, there was clearly a
> > > > > reason
> > > > > you were reluctant to do so - your miserable "quote" was overwhelmed by
> > > > > the positive ones on that forum, and so showing the URL totally
> > > > > deflates
> > > > > your petty insults on the university. Too bad for you, but at least you
> > > > > might have learned the difference between Ohio University and The Ohio
> > > > > State University, si it was not a total loss for you.
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> > > > > By the way, what do you think of the other student's view that I
> > > > > posted?
> > > > > Sounds like OSU didn't lose anything when your lone, and ill informed,
> > > > > malcontent transferred.
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> > > > Again I ask you to retract your wild and clearly incorrect accusation
> > > > "There is no URL in existence, and you made the post up just to
> > > > denigrate an institution you know absolutely nothing about (and cannot
> > > > even distinguish from Ohio University). You are, pure and simple, a
> > > > bare faced liar. Case proven and closed".
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> > > Oh, we are playing the "hurt and insulted" card now, are we? Look, you
> > > refused to provide this URL until you were backed into this corner, and
> > > now you want an "apology"? In your dreams. Now, instead of blathering on
> > > about how offended you are, how about YOU retracting your insults heaped
> > > on an institution you know nothing about, beyond what you dredged up on
> > > Google? How about responding to this comment, which you have taken great
> > > pains to ignore, form a student clearly far ore academically able (by
> > > their own description) than the inaccurate absurdity you hung your hat
> > > on?
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> > Again I ask you to retract your wild and clearly incorrect accusation
> > "There is no URL in existence, and you made the post up just to
> > denigrate an institution you know absolutely nothing about (and
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> > even distinguish from Ohio University). You are, pure and simple, a
> > bare faced liar. Case proven and closed".
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> > There is a URL in existence, I did not make the post up and clearly
> > you do not have the integrity to correct yet another wild accusation.
> > If you where the associate dean in any university this would be more
> > of a slur on that institution than I ever could even if I wanted to.
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> Fine, so if that's what it took to make you adhere to the standard
> usenet etiquette for citing, then so be it. Too bad it was necessary to
> go to such lengths, but when I look at the site, I can see why you
> wanted to keep it quiet.
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Again I ask you to retract your statement "There is no URL in
existence, and you made the post up just to denigrate an institution
you know absolutely nothing about (and cannot even distinguish from
Ohio University). You are, pure and simple, a bare faced liar. Case
proven and closed".
Its also clear that I posted how to find the quote I made. If you had
even put the first sentence of the quote into google you would have
found it. I have never tried to hide the source for this quote as you
suggest. I have no obligation to give any link to another site when
quoting.
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> > > Here it is:
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> > > "I can not think of any other place that is more ideal for a college
> > > education. Ohio State has offered me unboundless opportunities on a
> > > beautiful campus, in a great city. I have not met (nor heard of) one
> > > student that dislikes going here. Each and every one of the students
> > > here is incredibly friendly and approachable. Even though the students
> > > are aplenty, the class sizes remain small (only one or two major lecture
> > > classes in first year). The academics are stimulating and interesting,
> > > something I did not especially expect coming into a university of this
> > > size. Ohio State offers incredible academic support...I have never gone
> > > into a class not understanding any of the material. The professors here
> > > are top-notch and truly care about their students.
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> > > The school spirit here and the tradition are contagious, as people are
> > > overflowing with spirit for the Buckeyes. The athletic programs are
> > > great, with a beautiful RPAC (recreation center) and a newly built
> > > McCorkle Aquatic Center. The Horseshoe is one of the most exciting
> > > venues in all of college football. With everything that this school has
> > > to offer both inside and outside the classroom, I cannot fathom any
> > > parent who would be ashamed if their child chose to attend The Ohio
> > > State University, one of the fastest rising and finest universities
> > > this country has to offer. This truly is a special place."
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> > > I await your comments on this statement with interest.
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> > I find it really amusing that your quoting from a website that you
> > yourself claimed was a "totally worthless chat forum". So tell me
> > what is it a totally worthless chat forum or not?
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> > Though this is just another example of trying to avoid correcting yet
> > another wild incorrect accusation based on nohing but assumption.
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> Indeed, so against your worthless post I set many more contrary posts.
> Either the site is valid (you seem to think so), in which case your
> attempt to put a university down blows up in your face, or else we can
> agree that such sites are worthless, and you therefore acknowledge your
> post as a meaningless attempt to denigrate the university. Either way
> your original pose comes up way short, and looks petty and dumb.
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Again more assumution, I have never claimed the web site is valid or
invalid. Also I have never attempted to put any university down as you
claim, I have quoted a student on a website which I have every right
to do.
Yet again resorting to playground name calling.
I clearly posted this particular post to see how you would respond,
testing to see if you would respond like an associate Dean. This is
what I clearly was refering to when I posted.
"You had a prime chance to put a case forward to show how good Ohio
State University is though instead revert to childish name calling
about some person you clearly know nothing about. Clearly a associate
Dean would have more
intelligence and not be so obtuse".
I would expect more of any offical at any university than to call a
student an idiot, or dismiss a website without looking at it, being
unable to find a website despite being informed how too and finally
resorting to wild assumuptions leading to directly calling a person a
liar when infact they where telling the truth. Even then having to be
asked several times to retract their assumption and correcting their
slur did not even have the deceny to apologise.
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> > > > > > > > Then why did you make a foolish wager you cannot win?
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> > > > > > > The wager is already won - it's getting you to pay up that is the
> > > > > > > problem.
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> > > > > > Remind me have you proven your identidy never mind that you went to
> > > > > > Oxford?
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> > > > > I prove it to myself every day. I prove it to every financial and
> > > > > governmental institution you can name, to their satisfaction, every
> > > > > day.
> > > > > You, on the other hand, seem to want to hold to a higher, nay absurd,
> > > > > standard. I assume this is like not wanting to publish that URL - once
> > > > > you accept any reasonable proof of identity, the MDA will be $100
> > > > > richer. Too bad for you.
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> > > > Maybe then you should try and make a wager with every financial and
> > > > governmental institution I can name or with yourself. You have have
> > > > not provided any proof of identity which cannot be faked especially on
> > > > a forum like this. You have had ample time to do so and have failed.
> > > > Now back up your foolish wager and donate $100 to the Foyle Hospice as
> > > > your squirming is now becoming dull.
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> > > More weaseling and welshing. Still wriggling as hard as you can go.
> > > Pretty funny from here, I must say.
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> > > Once again, give me a URL for "Marty's" web site, and we will start the
> > > "identity" process. The MDA needs the money for sick children. Otherwise
> > > just admit you were wrong, apologize, and get on with your life.
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> > Who said Marty has a web site. What makes you think I would give you
> > his contact details when I will not give you my own!
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> Oh, Marty doesn't have a web site? Hmmm, why am I not surprised. If he
> had one, then it is out there for the entire world to access, so it
> would be really foolish to suppose that he would somehow come to harm if
> I saw it, now wouldn't it? Does he do business out of the back of a
> truck, or does he even exist (as a solicitor) at all? My guess is that
> he does not.
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Well why would he have a web site, I don't have one and I bet the vast
majority of people on the planet don't either. So your assumution is
because he does not have a web site he does business out of the back
of a truck. Why would a solicitor in Derry need a web site.
Though I am not surprised you don't really have a good record of
making assumptions do you.
So you want me to put a direct contact to a friend on a public forum!
Sorry I would not put my own up so why would you think I would put the
address of my friends place of work! I would not be much of a friend
if I did that would I.
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> > Who makes a wager without defining any winning conditions, something
> > pointed out by me a while ago. Its clear you cannot even prove your
> > identity never mind anything else so to make a wager that depends on
> > it was foolish.
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> > I have now shown you making spelling errors and making wild
> > accusations about grammar that are simply incorrect. Clearly you are
> > no expert on grammar. I have also shown the length you are willing to
> > go to save what little credibility you have left, from childish name
> > calling, racial insults to thinly veiled threats. You do not even
> > have the integrity to retract wild accusations that you made which
> > have now been proven wrong.
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> Bluster, bluster, bluster all you will, the simple fact remains that you
> stuck your neck out, rose to a challenge, got royally caught, and ever
> since have been tying yourself in knots trying to find ways to weasel
> out of something you should never have said in the first place. All this
> other twaddle is just your feeble attempt at a smokescreen.
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> The MDA is waiting.
More nonsense, ok what terms of the wager show you as winning?
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date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:58:53 -0800
author: freeireland
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