On 29 Oct, 18:17, "William A. T. Clark" 
wrote:
> In article ,
>
>  freeireland  wrote:
>
> snip, snip
>
>
>
> > > > What can't you goole "Student Review" or is that ability above you? Is
> > > > it true Ohio state university is now nickname "camp death" after a
> > > > student was killed in a lift.
>
> > > I can't "goole" anything - that's for Halloween. However, I know that if
> > > you actually had a URL you'd post it, so I'm not going to waste time
> > > looking for fictional "quotes".
>
> > lol, you do crack me up!
>
> Indeed, so we have established that either a) you made that comment up,
> or b) it is from the wrong program at the wrong university. No wonder
> you won't produce it and give us all something to laugh at.
>

Yawn.

Heres another "Be careful when choosing OSU for college. Not only does
Ohio have the most expensive instate tuition, the teachers are not
helpful at all. I am transferring to another college after 2 years. I
felt like I wasted time at OSU. Also this university has a disregard
for student safety. A student died in an dorm elevator accident. There
were many complaints about the elevator before the accident. Also,
other elevators were on campus were found to be unsafe. It's all about
profit for the university."

>
>
> > > Your sick attempt at laughing at a genuine tragedy is disgusting. I'm
> > > sure you laughed like a drain, too, when some of your "heroes" got blown
> > > up while making bombs to kill others.
>
> > Again how little you know me, and I certainly never laughed at it, I
> > just asked a genuine question. So I will take that as an affirmitive.
> > Not good for the old safety record is it.  I have never had a any hero
> > make a bomb at all and thats nothing more than a lame discredit by
> > association flame. Yawn like thats never been tried before. The one
> > thing I will give you credit for is a severe lake of imagination.
>
> Indeed, I have an enormous "lake" of imagination - it positively
> overfloweth. Yours is a miserable trickle by comparison.
>
>

lol, you think you where baited again, your like a goldfish swimming
around a bowl.

>
>
>
> > > > > > Your in no position to comment on anyones literacy with your spelling
> > > > > > or wild untrue accusations.
>
> > > > > "Your" not in any position to make accusations on this score.
>
> > > > > Oh, you're a busy little boy, aren't you? I have no recollection of
> > > > > this, but if I did it in a rush to move on from replying to the kind of
> > > > > drivel you post, then I was clearly wrong. At least I admit it.
>
> > > > lol, don't worry there are a good few of them. Do you think TMS have a
> > > > few.
>
> > > TMS? Do you even know what that is? I thought not, seeing as it is a
> > > "professional" society with strict admission standards.
>
> > I certainly know what they are. You should goto the TMS web site and
> > in the search type "Due to". You should see all the uneducated
> > illiterates according to your twisted english that are post there.
> > Even scientific papers use "Due to" as a preposition in the title on
> > that website.
>
> What "they" are? Or what "it" is? You just don't have a clue.
>
>

Maybe I will join TMS then. They are an illiterate lot after all.

>
>
>
> > > > Though using your own powers of deduction this must mean you have the
> > > > same level of education as me and are illiterate does it not?
>
> > > > Its fair to assume you are illiterate and uneducated. Though again
> > > > clearly its not a mistake though I have without doubt proved my
> > > > point.
>
> > > In your dreams. You know, just standing on a street corner shouting
> > > something does not eventually make it true. Lesson one.
>
> > Just like somebody has been saying "Due to" is a preposition.
>
> > All was using your use of grammar to determine that. After all, isn't
> > that what you have have been doing not just on this threa but others..
> > I thought I warned you of the dangerous of spelling or grammar
> > flaming.
>
> Could you repeat this paragraph in actual English, please? As it is now,
> it is incomprehensible.
>

Not too bright are you. Do you think I am doing this dilberetly! So I
can once again resurrect some of your speeling or grammatical errors.
Do you think there are any plants in this post. lol

>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > Number one, please remember that is it "The" Ohio State University.
> > > > > > > Number two, I give you an address to send the $100 check to. I
> > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > need your money, so I would like you to send it in my name to:
>
> > > > > > > The Muscular Dystrophy Association
> > > > > > > 960 Kingsmill Parkway
> > > > > > > Columbus, OH 43229
>
> > > > > > > (614) 436-7744
>
> > > > > > > Let me know when you have sent it, and I will put them on alert to
> > > > > > > expect it. At least this way some good will come out of this
> > > > > > > nonsense.
>
> > > > > > > End of story.
>
> > > > > > lol, what a knob and just how have you proved your identity?  What
> > > > > > after several request you have actually not even made an attempt. How
> > > > > > could you expect me to believe an associate Dean could be illiterate.
>
> > > > > Oh, tiresome little man, go find Seimi and chat with him. He'll do for
> > > > > an independent third party, and I'll provide him with evidence.
> > > > > However,
> > > > > I suspect you'll find more lies to wriggle your way out with.  Of
> > > > > course, you could simply apologize.
>
> > > > So you think a post from an anonymous person is proof of your
> > > > identity. Clearly you have noway of proving you identidy to me or
> > > > anyone else unless you physically meet them. As for taking you at your
> > > > word well its clear you full of shit and lack the literacy skills you
> > > > expect everyone else to display on an informal forum.
>
> > > > You have had ample time to prove your identidy and you have not.
>
> > > Well, unlike you, I don't really feel the need to hide like a schoolboy
> > > behind some phony moniker. It's there for all to see. You are simply
> > > wiggling again. But I can see why you would want to.
>
> > lol, no instead you hide behind a another persons id!.
>
> Really. Is that the best you can do to weasel out of this? Pathetic.
>
>

Well you claim you could prove it. So where is your drivers license or
passport with a utility bill.  I think we should call you illiterate
boy from now on.  The grammar flamer who clearly does not even know
that "Due to" can be used as a preposition. The claims and spelling
mistakes you have made still crack me up. I really shouldn't keep
bringing this up though your reaction is just so funny.

>
>
>
> > > > > Well, at least we have established that you are a welsher, pure and
> > > > > simple.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > The term welsher I think is pretty derogatory and many welsh people
> > > > would be severally insulted by it. Maybe you should appolgise to all
> > > > the Welsh people though I doubt to have any moral courage for that
> > > > either.
>
> > > Oh, dear, you seem to have run into an etymological problem again. Let
> > > me help you with the OED:
>
> > > "welsh, welch, v.i. & t. (Of loser of bet, esp. bookmaker) decamp
> > > without paying; hence ~ER n. [19th. c.; orig. unkn]
>
> > > Nothing to do with Wales or the Welsh. Sorry.
>
> > tut tut I would have expected you to have at least sought the origins
> > of the word. Do you think you where baited again.
>
> > The term comes from a group of English bookmakers who absconded over
> > to Wales to avoid having to pay out on a lot of long shots who came
> > in. This term became popular later when Edward Prince of Wales refused
> > to pay a few outstanding gambling debts.  The english used many terms
> > that the Welsh find offensive such as "Welsh Rabbit" etc. Welsh
> > language magazine in the early 90s started a campaign in the US to get
> > the term "Welsher" banned as racist.
>
> Sorry, but no. Sometimes relying on over hasty Googling can get you in
> trouble. And it is "Welsh Rarebit", not Welsh Rabbit", FYI. Finally, no
> one ever said the Welsh language brigade were particularly smart, or had
> a sense of humour.

tut tut tut, another howler, do you not have any common sense at all.
Its so easy to bait you its not even a challenge anymore.  Clearly you
have no idea of the origins of "Welsh rabbit" and just as with grammar
are in no position to comment. So I would kindly ask you to keep your
racist slurs to yourself please.

"Welsh rabbit and Welsh rarebit are both Standard English names for a
dish of melted cheese and beer served on toast or crackers, presumably
so-called as an insult to the impoverished or uncivilized Welsh, who
were said to eat it instead of the rabbit meat they lacked; hence
Welsh rabbit is almost certainly an ethnic slur. Welsh rarebit is a
folk etymology apparently either contrived to avoid offending the
Welsh or caused by a misunderstanding of the intended noun, since
perhaps some couldn't see a connection between cheese and rabbits."

http://www.bartleby.com/68/69/6469.html

>
>
>
>
>
> > > > Clearly you cannot prove your identidy to me, I named my terms of the
> > > > wager and you failed to meet them. Now just pay up.
>
> > > Bluster, bluster, bluster. Like I say, set up any independent third
> > > party to verify identity (seeing as you are so determined to welsh on
> > > the bet). Loser to pay his/her costs.
>
> > > The MDA is really looking forward to your donation.
>
> > > William Clark
>
> > So can you quote me where I agreed to those terms!
>
> > You know its only $100 how can you refuse to pay upto the Foyle
> > Hospice. tut tut tut.
>
> Aah, so now you are trying to deny the challenge in the first place.
> Very innovative, but entirely predictable. Oh, and how come you excised
> the bit about the third party arbitrator? Getting a little too warm for
> you, is it? Let's do that - loser pays the abitrator's costs.

lol,  well terms have to be agreed before they can be excised and
clearly I will accept a third party arbitrator when he/she gives me
his drivers license/passport along with a utility bill and of course
with your  drivers license/passport and a utility bill. This is
standard proof of identity and proof of address. These are clearly the
terms I put before you before so why have you as of yet failed to
prove your identity?

Are you really so niave to think an anonymous poster here proves
anything. How can you prove you attented Oxford if you cannot even
prove your identity.



>
> William Clark

Well I am currently in an airport of on a buisness trip so i will be
away a few days at least. There are a few baits in here, since you
keep falling for them I will warn you in advance this time. Though I
hope to be entertained by the performing monkey when I return.

Though one serious question, do you think your posts on this thread
could in anyway be a good advert for OSU? If you had any intelligence
and actually are the person you claim to be, I think you should be
ashamed as these post would clearly reflect quite poorly on OSU.
Though it would explain why the modern education system in the states
and UK have gove to the dogs. I suppose they just can't get the staff.
Maybe thats why the Alan Sugars, Richard Bransons and Bill Gates where
succesful, no shitty education system to hold them back.

In article ,
 freeireland  wrote:

> On 7 Nov, 00:51, "William A. T. Clark" <clarknos...@masceng.ohio-
> state.edu> wrote:
> > In article ,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  freeireland  wrote:
> > > On 6 Nov, 17:54, "William A. T. Clark"  wrote:
> > > > In article ,
> > > > > > > You also believed it was about another university. I have already
> > > > > > > posted the web site I quoted from and the quote is in its full
> > > > > > > context.
> >
> > > > > > No, you didn't know the difference between Ohio University and The 
> > > > > > Ohio
> > > > > > State University - that was the problem, and it was all yours. Now, 
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > have NOT posted the web site, in my opinion because it does not 
> > > > > > exist
> > > > > > outside your imagination. If it does, then post the URL and we can 
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > look at it. Otherwise own up to the fact that this is a complete
> > > > > > fabrication, and you have been caught in a lie. Why am I not 
> > > > > > surprised?
> >
> > > > > Yawn, I have named the site and the quote is clearly in regards to
> > > > > OSU. I don't care if you think its a fabrication and the quote is
> > > > > available on the website I named previously for all wh are interested
> > > > > to go and look at.
> >
> > > > No, you have not "named" any website for this quotation. You, of 
> > > > course,
> > > > will not give a traceable reference because this particular "quotation"
> > > > is something you made up (or else refers to Ohio University). I'm not
> > > > surprised you will not give it, given the magnitude of the gaffe you
> > > > made. Too bad for you.
> >
> > > "Well I have told you the name of the site and its "Student Review"
> > > and
> > > thats only a sample."
> >
> > > This is me clearly naming the web site last week and clearly the quote
> > > refers to OSU and the elevator incident.
> >
> > > Please now have the denceny to retract your statement "No, you have
> > > not 'named' any website for this quotation".
> >
> > OK, so it is settled. There is no such site, unless you are taking about
> > "Student"s"" Review. That totally worthless chat forum contains five
> > negative comments about OSU, compared to over 70 positive ones. FIVE
> > negative one - do you have a clue how many students there are on this
> > campus, and what fraction FIVE represents? There is no URL in existence,
> > and you made the post up just to denigrate an institution you know
> > absolutely nothing about (and cannot even distinguish from Ohio
> > University). You are, pure and simple, a bare faced liar. Case proven
> > and closed.
> >
> 
> Typing "Student Review" into google puts the web site top of the
> list.  If you searched even for the first line of the quote I made it
> would have brought you directly to the post in question.
> 
> Finally here is the link to the post since you are incapable of
> finding it. Now I ask you to retract your comment "There is no URL in
> existence, and you made the post up just to denigrate an institution
> you know absolutely nothing about (and cannot even distinguish from
> Ohio  University). You are, pure and simple, a bare faced liar. Case
> proven and closed". Yet more wild accusations based on assumptions.
> 
> http://www.studentsreview.com/OH/OSUC_comments.html?page=2&d_school=Ohio%20Sta
> te%20University%20Columbus

Oh, I've seen the quote - didn't you even read the paragraph above that 
refers to it? Obviously not. Good, well you finally found it, although I 
see why you were reluctant to do so, since there are close to 80 
positive comments and only five negative ones. Hardly convincing 
evidence for your case, even if you believe that such unregulated chat 
forums are of any real value in measuring anything. Apparently you do. 
It is also the case that write was not an ME major, but in the Business 
School.

Right below this idiots incorrect remarks, is this one, form another 
Business major:

"I can not think of any other place that is more ideal for a college 
education. Ohio State has offered me unboundless opportunities on a 
beautiful campus, in a great city. I have not met (nor heard of) one 
student that dislikes going here. Each and every one of the students 
here is incredibly friendly and approachable. Even though the students 
are aplenty, the class sizes remain small (only one or two major lecture 
classes in first year). The academics are stimulating and interesting, 
something I did not especially expect coming into a university of this 
size. Ohio State offers incredible academic support...I have never gone 
into a class not understanding any of the material. The professors here 
are top-notch and truly care about their students.

The school spirit here and the tradition are contagious, as people are 
overflowing with spirit for the Buckeyes. The athletic programs are 
great, with a beautiful RPAC (recreation center) and a newly built 
McCorkle Aquatic Center. The Horseshoe is one of the most exciting 
venues in all of college football. With everything that this school has 
to offer both inside and outside the classroom, I cannot fathom any 
parent who would be ashamed if their child chose to attend The Ohio 
State University, one of the fastest rising and finest universities this 
country has to offer. This truly is a special place."

Game. set, and match.
> 
> > > > > > > > Like I said, your buddy does not qualify as "independent". 
> > > > > > > > Nothing
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > with racism (oh, what a martyr you are), just a suspicion that 
> > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > biased. Pick a lawyer or notary - someone whose neutrality can 
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > relied
> > > > > > > > upon - loser to pay. And don't think you can make me nervous 
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > this blather about the Bogside. I know what it is, I've been 
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > times than you care to think. Whoopee.
> >
> > > > > > > Marty is a solictor and highly respected at that. Its time you 
> > > > > > > had a
> > > > > > > reality check, you cannot prove your identity never mind anything
> > > > > > > else. Can you imagine sending somebody else down to the bank as  
> > > > > > > third
> > > > > > > party proof of idenity. Catch yourself on.
> >
> > > > > > I'm not sure you can prove that you actually live on this planet.
> > > > > > Doesn't seem so from your ramblings.
> >
> > > > > Well I am not foolish enough to start making wagers which involve
> > > > > proving my identity.
> >
> > > > But you are dumb enough to go around making up "quotations" purporting
> > > > to criticize a university whose identity you cannot even get right. 
> > > > Yes,
> > > > that is really smart.
> >
> > > > Oh, and telling people what academic qualifications they do and don't
> > > > have, and then having to find every weasel device on earth to wriggle
> > > > out of your blunder. Smarter still.
> >
> > > I have every right to doubt anyone posts in these forums and if you
> > > want to prove otherwise then feel free. Though only a moron would even
> > > attempt to make a wager with someone on here.
> >
> > > "Oh, and telling people what academic qualifications they do and don't
> > > have", maybe you should have thought of that before you started to
> > > post your assumptions about me.
> >
> > Only a moron would be stupid enough to persist in questioning someone's
> > qualifications when Google exists. That is REALLY dumb. I could care
> > less about who or what you are.
> >
> >
> 
> Then why did you make a foolish wager you cannot win?

The wager is already won - it's getting you to pay up that is the 
problem.
> >
> >
> > > Where is your quote then? Go on I challenge you to post it here!
> > > Clearly I have posted what Fowler and Burchfield actually said on the
> > > matter below. Clearly this statement you made is wrong "And it is
> > > 'Welsh Rarebit', not 'Welsh Rabbit', FYI" and clearly Fowler said that
> > > it is wrong.
> >
> > Go to Fowler, page 651 and 652. I assume you CAN read. It is right
> > there, as it was when I read it before making that post.
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Welsh rarebit (first recorded in 1785 as 'an etymologizing
> > > alteration' of the earlier Welsh rabbit)"
> >
> > > The New Fowler's Modern English Usage - Revised 1998 - Burchfield RW.
> > > page 305
> >
> > > "rabbit (noun). For Welsh rabbit (or rarebit), See WELSH RABBIT."
> >
> > > The New Fowler's Modern English Usage - Revised 1998 - Burchfield RW.
> > > page 649
> >
> > > "Welsh rabbit, not rare bit nor rarebit"
> >
> > Silly waste of bandwidth snipped - it has already been established that
> > this was a sprat to catch a mackerel, and, boy, did you bite.>
> >
> 
> lol, you have established nothing you claimed "And it is 'Welsh
> Rarebit', not 'Welsh Rabbit', FYI".  Thats a wild and incorrect
> statement of which I have clearly proven wrong. As of yet you still
> have not admitted as such and retracted it.
> 
> Lets say you where baiting for a moment, this means when you posted
> "And it is 'Welsh Rarebit', not 'Welsh Rabbit', FYI".  you would have
> known it was incorrect.  If so that means you lied!   So if you think
> a successful bait is when someone corrects a statement you made, which
> is incorrect you are a bigger fool than I even thought.
> 
> Clearly the statement you made is incorrect and clearly you did not
> look it up in Fowler before making such a wild accusation. This bait
> claim is a lame attempt to cover up the fact that you used Fowler to
> try and certify your original statement and that was seriously
> dishonest.

You missed the whole point, didn't you? Why am I not surprised.
> 
> >
> >
> > > > Now, give me your solicitor pal's contact information, and I will
> > > > arrange to get him whatever he thinks is appropriate.
> >
> > > So you want me to give you a friends contact information when I would
> > > not give you my own. Marty said he will met you and since you have
> > > been to the bogside what better place than the Bogside Inn.
> >
> > OK, then give me his web site. If he has any professional credentials at
> > all, then he will have one. Unless, of course, this is another fiction.
> > I'd be happy to meet at the Bogside Inn - I assume, since you are
> > prescribing these conditions, that you will therefore provide the
> > airfare.
> 
> Wait a second you want me to give the address of a friend, or the
> address where he works to someone who has threatened me?
> 
> I will be home next week for a few days, I will be pleased to meet you
> at the bogside Inn on Monday or Tuesday.  I have already posted
> documents I regard as proof so don't forget any. You wanted the wager
> so sorry you pay for your own airfare.> 

No, just his publicly available web site that he puts out there for 
anyone that wishes to do business with him. Strictly professional. Of 
course, if "Marty" isn't really a solicitor (surprise, surprise), then 
he won't have one, will he? 

No, you lost, you welshed. Game over.

William Clark