Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholic pharmacists on Monday to use conscientious
objection to avoid dispensing drugs with "immoral purposes such as, for example,
abortion or euthanasia."

In a speech to participants at the 25th International Congress of Catholic
Pharmacists, Benedict said that conscientious objection was a right that must be
recognized by the pharmaceutical profession.

Such objector status, he said, would "enable them not to collaborate directly or
indirectly in supplying products that have clearly immoral purposes such as, for
example, abortion or euthanasia."

In his speech, the pope also said that pharmacists have an educational role
toward patients so that drugs are used in a morally and ethically correct way.

"We cannot anesthetize consciences as regards, for example, the effect of
certain molecules that have the goal of preventing the implantation of the
embryo or shortening a person's life," he said.

Emergency contraception pills, which can be taken up to 72 hours after
unprotected sex, work by preventing ovulation or by preventing the embryo from
being implanted into the womb.

The pope said pharmacists should raise people's awareness so that "all human
beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines
truly play a therapeutic role."

The issue has been debated extensively in the United States.

Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich introduced the rule more than two years ago
requiring pharmacists to fill all prescriptions. Pharmacists challenged the
rule, and a legal settlement earlier this month allowed pharmacists who object
to dispensing emergency birth control to step aside while someone else fills the
prescription.

In Washington state, pharmacists have filed a federal lawsuit over a regulation
requiring them to sell emergency contraception, saying it violates their civil
rights by forcing them into choosing between "their livelihoods and their deeply
held religious and moral beliefs."

A few states in the U.S. have passed laws that specifically allow pharmacists or
pharmacies to refuse to provide health care due to religious or moral
objections, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive rights think
tank based in New York.

Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi and South Dakota have legislation that explicitly
permits pharmacists to refuse to dispense contraceptives, according to the
Institute, and Florida, Illinois, Maine and Tennessee have broadly worded
legislation that may apply to pharmacists.

In California, on the other hand, pharmacists are required to fill all valid
prescriptions and can only refuse with employer approval and if the customer can
still access the prescription in a timely manner.

In Britain, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society has a code of ethics allowing
pharmacists who have religious objections to refuse dispensing certain drugs,
such as emergency contraception. But their objection must be stated to their
employer before they start working, and they must refer patients to other
pharmacists who can provide the requested drugs.

--

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:26 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
<rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote:

>Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholic pharmacists on Monday to use conscientious
>objection to avoid dispensing drugs with "immoral purposes such as, for example,
>abortion or euthanasia."
>
>In a speech to participants at the 25th International Congress of Catholic
>Pharmacists, Benedict said that conscientious objection was a right that must be
>recognized by the pharmaceutical profession.
>
>Such objector status, he said, would "enable them not to collaborate directly or
>indirectly in supplying products that have clearly immoral purposes such as, for
>example, abortion or euthanasia."
>
>In his speech, the pope also said that pharmacists have an educational role
>toward patients so that drugs are used in a morally and ethically correct way.
>
>"We cannot anesthetize consciences as regards, for example, the effect of
>certain molecules that have the goal of preventing the implantation of the
>embryo or shortening a person's life," he said.
>
>Emergency contraception pills, which can be taken up to 72 hours after
>unprotected sex, work by preventing ovulation or by preventing the embryo from
>being implanted into the womb.
>
>The pope said pharmacists should raise people's awareness so that "all human
>beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines
>truly play a therapeutic role."
>
>The issue has been debated extensively in the United States.
>
>Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich introduced the rule more than two years ago
>requiring pharmacists to fill all prescriptions. Pharmacists challenged the
>rule, and a legal settlement earlier this month allowed pharmacists who object
>to dispensing emergency birth control to step aside while someone else fills the
>prescription.
>
>In Washington state, pharmacists have filed a federal lawsuit over a regulation
>requiring them to sell emergency contraception, saying it violates their civil
>rights by forcing them into choosing between "their livelihoods and their deeply
>held religious and moral beliefs."
>
>A few states in the U.S. have passed laws that specifically allow pharmacists or
>pharmacies to refuse to provide health care due to religious or moral
>objections, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive rights think
>tank based in New York.
>
>Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi and South Dakota have legislation that explicitly
>permits pharmacists to refuse to dispense contraceptives, according to the
>Institute, and Florida, Illinois, Maine and Tennessee have broadly worded
>legislation that may apply to pharmacists.
>
>In California, on the other hand, pharmacists are required to fill all valid
>prescriptions and can only refuse with employer approval and if the customer can
>still access the prescription in a timely manner.
>
>In Britain, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society has a code of ethics allowing
>pharmacists who have religious objections to refuse dispensing certain drugs,
>such as emergency contraception. But their objection must be stated to their
>employer before they start working, and they must refer patients to other
>pharmacists who can provide the requested drugs.
>
>--
>

I think the Pope was telling the pharmacists a load of stuff that they
already know. As all the pharmacists were catholics already and
probably well aware of their morals regarding dispensing drugs, why
was the Pope there at all ? Of course if some kind of ballot by
pharmacists on the issue was imminent then I could understand.

max.it (the orange cage)

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:37:25 GMT, max.it@teatime (max.it) wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:26 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
><rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote:
>
>>Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholic pharmacists on Monday to use conscientious
>>objection to avoid dispensing drugs with "immoral purposes such as, for example,
>>abortion or euthanasia."
>>
>>In a speech to participants at the 25th International Congress of Catholic
>>Pharmacists, Benedict said that conscientious objection was a right that must be
>>recognized by the pharmaceutical profession.
>>
>>Such objector status, he said, would "enable them not to collaborate directly or
>>indirectly in supplying products that have clearly immoral purposes such as, for
>>example, abortion or euthanasia."
>>
>>In his speech, the pope also said that pharmacists have an educational role
>>toward patients so that drugs are used in a morally and ethically correct way.
>>
>>"We cannot anesthetize consciences as regards, for example, the effect of
>>certain molecules that have the goal of preventing the implantation of the
>>embryo or shortening a person's life," he said.
>>
>>Emergency contraception pills, which can be taken up to 72 hours after
>>unprotected sex, work by preventing ovulation or by preventing the embryo from
>>being implanted into the womb.
>>
>>The pope said pharmacists should raise people's awareness so that "all human
>>beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines
>>truly play a therapeutic role."
>>
>>The issue has been debated extensively in the United States.
>>
>>Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich introduced the rule more than two years ago
>>requiring pharmacists to fill all prescriptions. Pharmacists challenged the
>>rule, and a legal settlement earlier this month allowed pharmacists who object
>>to dispensing emergency birth control to step aside while someone else fills the
>>prescription.
>>
>>In Washington state, pharmacists have filed a federal lawsuit over a regulation
>>requiring them to sell emergency contraception, saying it violates their civil
>>rights by forcing them into choosing between "their livelihoods and their deeply
>>held religious and moral beliefs."
>>
>>A few states in the U.S. have passed laws that specifically allow pharmacists or
>>pharmacies to refuse to provide health care due to religious or moral
>>objections, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive rights think
>>tank based in New York.
>>
>>Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi and South Dakota have legislation that explicitly
>>permits pharmacists to refuse to dispense contraceptives, according to the
>>Institute, and Florida, Illinois, Maine and Tennessee have broadly worded
>>legislation that may apply to pharmacists.
>>
>>In California, on the other hand, pharmacists are required to fill all valid
>>prescriptions and can only refuse with employer approval and if the customer can
>>still access the prescription in a timely manner.
>>
>>In Britain, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society has a code of ethics allowing
>>pharmacists who have religious objections to refuse dispensing certain drugs,
>>such as emergency contraception. But their objection must be stated to their
>>employer before they start working, and they must refer patients to other
>>pharmacists who can provide the requested drugs.
>>
>>--
>>
>
>I think the Pope was telling the pharmacists a load of stuff that they
>already know. As all the pharmacists were catholics already and
>probably well aware of their morals regarding dispensing drugs, why
>was the Pope there at all ? Of course if some kind of ballot by
>pharmacists on the issue was imminent then I could understand.
>
>max.it (the orange cage) 

To reinforce their beliefs and to show them they were at one with the Church....

Ray

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"max.it" <max.it@teatime> wrote in message 
news:47264928.45534234@news.btinternet.com...
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:26 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
>
>
>   why was the Pope there at all ?



He was a Nazi and he was head of the Inquisition, this is a guy who likes to 
control what other people think and do. Fortunately there are more than 
enough rational professional pharmacists to ensure that the daft old 
gobshite's ramblings will have no effect on peoples lives.

Mens sana.

"Mens sana"  wrote in message
news:O0tVi.22877$j7.433437@news.indigo.ie...
>
> "max.it" <max.it@teatime> wrote in message
> news:47264928.45534234@news.btinternet.com...
> > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:26 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
> >
> >
> >   why was the Pope there at all ?
>
>
>
> He was a Nazi and he was head of the Inquisition, this is a guy who likes
to
> control what other people think and do. Fortunately there are more than
> enough rational professional pharmacists to ensure that the daft old
> gobshite's ramblings will have no effect on peoples lives.
>
> Mens sana.

 he just makes the church more irrelevent.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:42:31 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
<rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:37:25 GMT, max.it@teatime (max.it) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:26 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
>><rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote:
>>
>>>Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholic pharmacists on Monday to use conscientious
>>>objection to avoid dispensing drugs with "immoral purposes such as, for example,
>>>abortion or euthanasia."
>>>
>>>In a speech to participants at the 25th International Congress of Catholic
>>>Pharmacists, Benedict said that conscientious objection was a right that must be
>>>recognized by the pharmaceutical profession.
>>>
>>>Such objector status, he said, would "enable them not to collaborate directly or
>>>indirectly in supplying products that have clearly immoral purposes such as, for
>>>example, abortion or euthanasia."
>>>
>>>In his speech, the pope also said that pharmacists have an educational role
>>>toward patients so that drugs are used in a morally and ethically correct way.
>>>
>>>"We cannot anesthetize consciences as regards, for example, the effect of
>>>certain molecules that have the goal of preventing the implantation of the
>>>embryo or shortening a person's life," he said.
>>>
>>>Emergency contraception pills, which can be taken up to 72 hours after
>>>unprotected sex, work by preventing ovulation or by preventing the embryo from
>>>being implanted into the womb.
>>>
>>>The pope said pharmacists should raise people's awareness so that "all human
>>>beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines
>>>truly play a therapeutic role."
>>>
>>>The issue has been debated extensively in the United States.
>>>
>>>Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich introduced the rule more than two years ago
>>>requiring pharmacists to fill all prescriptions. Pharmacists challenged the
>>>rule, and a legal settlement earlier this month allowed pharmacists who object
>>>to dispensing emergency birth control to step aside while someone else fills the
>>>prescription.
>>>
>>>In Washington state, pharmacists have filed a federal lawsuit over a regulation
>>>requiring them to sell emergency contraception, saying it violates their civil
>>>rights by forcing them into choosing between "their livelihoods and their deeply
>>>held religious and moral beliefs."
>>>
>>>A few states in the U.S. have passed laws that specifically allow pharmacists or
>>>pharmacies to refuse to provide health care due to religious or moral
>>>objections, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive rights think
>>>tank based in New York.
>>>
>>>Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi and South Dakota have legislation that explicitly
>>>permits pharmacists to refuse to dispense contraceptives, according to the
>>>Institute, and Florida, Illinois, Maine and Tennessee have broadly worded
>>>legislation that may apply to pharmacists.
>>>
>>>In California, on the other hand, pharmacists are required to fill all valid
>>>prescriptions and can only refuse with employer approval and if the customer can
>>>still access the prescription in a timely manner.
>>>
>>>In Britain, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society has a code of ethics allowing
>>>pharmacists who have religious objections to refuse dispensing certain drugs,
>>>such as emergency contraception. But their objection must be stated to their
>>>employer before they start working, and they must refer patients to other
>>>pharmacists who can provide the requested drugs.
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>
>>I think the Pope was telling the pharmacists a load of stuff that they
>>already know. As all the pharmacists were catholics already and
>>probably well aware of their morals regarding dispensing drugs, why
>>was the Pope there at all ? Of course if some kind of ballot by
>>pharmacists on the issue was imminent then I could understand.
>>
>>max.it (the orange cage) 
>
>To reinforce their beliefs and to show them they were at one with the Church....
>
>Ray

No Ray. If someone takes the time to join the catholic pharmacists
association, and then attend the lecture. It seems to me that they
would be regular visitors to Mass and know full well their moral
obligations regarding their chosen faith and profession. They might
well have had their faith before qualifying, so it would be safe to
asssume that they had already come to terms with the issue of
dispensing drugs.

It must just be a great big platform to spread his message, even if it
does sniff like a control move.

max.it (the orange cage)

>
>-- 
>****************************************************************************************
>When anyone asks me about the Irish character, I say look at the trees.
>Maimed, stark and misshapen, but ferociously tenacious - Edna O'Brien
>****************************************************************************************
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>
>  he just makes the church more irrelevent.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

For centuries the Church banned the study of anatomy. Anaesthetics
were condemned in the 19th century as pain and suffering were God's
punishment for the sin of Adam.

Cormac.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:05:16 GMT, max.it@teatime (max.it) wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:42:31 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
><rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:37:25 GMT, max.it@teatime (max.it) wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:26 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
>>><rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholic pharmacists on Monday to use conscientious
>>>>objection to avoid dispensing drugs with "immoral purposes such as, for example,
>>>>abortion or euthanasia."
>>>>
>>>>In a speech to participants at the 25th International Congress of Catholic
>>>>Pharmacists, Benedict said that conscientious objection was a right that must be
>>>>recognized by the pharmaceutical profession.
>>>>
>>>>Such objector status, he said, would "enable them not to collaborate directly or
>>>>indirectly in supplying products that have clearly immoral purposes such as, for
>>>>example, abortion or euthanasia."
>>>>
>>>>In his speech, the pope also said that pharmacists have an educational role
>>>>toward patients so that drugs are used in a morally and ethically correct way.
>>>>
>>>>"We cannot anesthetize consciences as regards, for example, the effect of
>>>>certain molecules that have the goal of preventing the implantation of the
>>>>embryo or shortening a person's life," he said.
>>>>
>>>>Emergency contraception pills, which can be taken up to 72 hours after
>>>>unprotected sex, work by preventing ovulation or by preventing the embryo from
>>>>being implanted into the womb.
>>>>
>>>>The pope said pharmacists should raise people's awareness so that "all human
>>>>beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines
>>>>truly play a therapeutic role."
>>>>
>>>>The issue has been debated extensively in the United States.
>>>>
>>>>Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich introduced the rule more than two years ago
>>>>requiring pharmacists to fill all prescriptions. Pharmacists challenged the
>>>>rule, and a legal settlement earlier this month allowed pharmacists who object
>>>>to dispensing emergency birth control to step aside while someone else fills the
>>>>prescription.
>>>>
>>>>In Washington state, pharmacists have filed a federal lawsuit over a regulation
>>>>requiring them to sell emergency contraception, saying it violates their civil
>>>>rights by forcing them into choosing between "their livelihoods and their deeply
>>>>held religious and moral beliefs."
>>>>
>>>>A few states in the U.S. have passed laws that specifically allow pharmacists or
>>>>pharmacies to refuse to provide health care due to religious or moral
>>>>objections, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive rights think
>>>>tank based in New York.
>>>>
>>>>Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi and South Dakota have legislation that explicitly
>>>>permits pharmacists to refuse to dispense contraceptives, according to the
>>>>Institute, and Florida, Illinois, Maine and Tennessee have broadly worded
>>>>legislation that may apply to pharmacists.
>>>>
>>>>In California, on the other hand, pharmacists are required to fill all valid
>>>>prescriptions and can only refuse with employer approval and if the customer can
>>>>still access the prescription in a timely manner.
>>>>
>>>>In Britain, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society has a code of ethics allowing
>>>>pharmacists who have religious objections to refuse dispensing certain drugs,
>>>>such as emergency contraception. But their objection must be stated to their
>>>>employer before they start working, and they must refer patients to other
>>>>pharmacists who can provide the requested drugs.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>
>>>I think the Pope was telling the pharmacists a load of stuff that they
>>>already know. As all the pharmacists were catholics already and
>>>probably well aware of their morals regarding dispensing drugs, why
>>>was the Pope there at all ? Of course if some kind of ballot by
>>>pharmacists on the issue was imminent then I could understand.
>>>
>>>max.it (the orange cage) 
>>
>>To reinforce their beliefs and to show them they were at one with the Church....
>>
>>Ray
>
>No Ray. If someone takes the time to join the catholic pharmacists
>association, and then attend the lecture. It seems to me that they
>would be regular visitors to Mass and know full well their moral
>obligations regarding their chosen faith and profession. They might
>well have had their faith before qualifying, so it would be safe to
>asssume that they had already come to terms with the issue of
>dispensing drugs.
>
>It must just be a great big platform to spread his message, even if it
>does sniff like a control move.
>
>max.it (the orange cage)
>

I think it's a wonderful move myself...   

Ray

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:20:30 -0000, "Mens sana"  wrote:

>
>"max.it" <max.it@teatime> wrote in message 
>news:47264928.45534234@news.btinternet.com...
>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:26 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
>>
>>
>>   why was the Pope there at all ?
>
>
>
>He was a Nazi and he was head of the Inquisition, this is a guy who likes to 
>control what other people think and do. Fortunately there are more than 
>enough rational professional pharmacists to ensure that the daft old 
>gobshite's ramblings will have no effect on peoples lives.
>
>Mens sana.
>
>

Atheist...?

Ray

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high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:49:13 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
<rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:05:16 GMT, max.it@teatime (max.it) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:42:31 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
>><rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:37:25 GMT, max.it@teatime (max.it) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:26 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
>>>><rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholic pharmacists on Monday to use conscientious
>>>>>objection to avoid dispensing drugs with "immoral purposes such as, for example,
>>>>>abortion or euthanasia."
>>>>>
>>>>>In a speech to participants at the 25th International Congress of Catholic
>>>>>Pharmacists, Benedict said that conscientious objection was a right that must be
>>>>>recognized by the pharmaceutical profession.
>>>>>
>>>>>Such objector status, he said, would "enable them not to collaborate directly or
>>>>>indirectly in supplying products that have clearly immoral purposes such as, for
>>>>>example, abortion or euthanasia."
>>>>>
>>>>>In his speech, the pope also said that pharmacists have an educational role
>>>>>toward patients so that drugs are used in a morally and ethically correct way.
>>>>>
>>>>>"We cannot anesthetize consciences as regards, for example, the effect of
>>>>>certain molecules that have the goal of preventing the implantation of the
>>>>>embryo or shortening a person's life," he said.
>>>>>
>>>>>Emergency contraception pills, which can be taken up to 72 hours after
>>>>>unprotected sex, work by preventing ovulation or by preventing the embryo from
>>>>>being implanted into the womb.
>>>>>
>>>>>The pope said pharmacists should raise people's awareness so that "all human
>>>>>beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines
>>>>>truly play a therapeutic role."
>>>>>
>>>>>The issue has been debated extensively in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>>Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich introduced the rule more than two years ago
>>>>>requiring pharmacists to fill all prescriptions. Pharmacists challenged the
>>>>>rule, and a legal settlement earlier this month allowed pharmacists who object
>>>>>to dispensing emergency birth control to step aside while someone else fills the
>>>>>prescription.
>>>>>
>>>>>In Washington state, pharmacists have filed a federal lawsuit over a regulation
>>>>>requiring them to sell emergency contraception, saying it violates their civil
>>>>>rights by forcing them into choosing between "their livelihoods and their deeply
>>>>>held religious and moral beliefs."
>>>>>
>>>>>A few states in the U.S. have passed laws that specifically allow pharmacists or
>>>>>pharmacies to refuse to provide health care due to religious or moral
>>>>>objections, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive rights think
>>>>>tank based in New York.
>>>>>
>>>>>Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi and South Dakota have legislation that explicitly
>>>>>permits pharmacists to refuse to dispense contraceptives, according to the
>>>>>Institute, and Florida, Illinois, Maine and Tennessee have broadly worded
>>>>>legislation that may apply to pharmacists.
>>>>>
>>>>>In California, on the other hand, pharmacists are required to fill all valid
>>>>>prescriptions and can only refuse with employer approval and if the customer can
>>>>>still access the prescription in a timely manner.
>>>>>
>>>>>In Britain, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society has a code of ethics allowing
>>>>>pharmacists who have religious objections to refuse dispensing certain drugs,
>>>>>such as emergency contraception. But their objection must be stated to their
>>>>>employer before they start working, and they must refer patients to other
>>>>>pharmacists who can provide the requested drugs.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think the Pope was telling the pharmacists a load of stuff that they
>>>>already know. As all the pharmacists were catholics already and
>>>>probably well aware of their morals regarding dispensing drugs, why
>>>>was the Pope there at all ? Of course if some kind of ballot by
>>>>pharmacists on the issue was imminent then I could understand.
>>>>
>>>>max.it (the orange cage) 
>>>
>>>To reinforce their beliefs and to show them they were at one with the Church....
>>>
>>>Ray
>>
>>No Ray. If someone takes the time to join the catholic pharmacists
>>association, and then attend the lecture. It seems to me that they
>>would be regular visitors to Mass and know full well their moral
>>obligations regarding their chosen faith and profession. They might
>>well have had their faith before qualifying, so it would be safe to
>>asssume that they had already come to terms with the issue of
>>dispensing drugs.
>>
>>It must just be a great big platform to spread his message, even if it
>>does sniff like a control move.
>>
>>max.it (the orange cage)
>>
>
>I think it's a wonderful move myself...   
>
>Ray


Yup. The Catholic pharmacists have a missionary job to do now.

max.it (the orange cage)

>
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>high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche
>****************************************************************************************
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"Der Weiße Wolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in
news:t3jhi3tbrvrd418d8s5c7fi00ogpo2cs2s@4ax.com: 

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:20:30 -0000, "Mens sana" 
> wrote: 
> 
>>
>>"max.it" <max.it@teatime> wrote in message 
>>news:47264928.45534234@news.btinternet.com...
>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:26 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
>>>
>>>
>>>   why was the Pope there at all ?
>>
>>
>>
>>He was a Nazi and he was head of the Inquisition, this is a guy who
>>likes to control what other people think and do. Fortunately there are
>>more than enough rational professional pharmacists to ensure that the
>>daft old gobshite's ramblings will have no effect on peoples lives.
>>
>>Mens sana.
>>
>>
> 
> Atheist...?

No, I'm pretty sure he's a catholic. Either that, or he shits in the woods. 
I can never remember which.

"Der Weiße Wolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
news:1dfci3p7st1kr5k6reuca9orridqb2fos7@4ax.com...
> Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholic pharmacists on Monday to use
conscientious
> objection to avoid dispensing drugs with "immoral purposes such as, for
example,
> abortion or euthanasia."
>

if a customer comes in with a presciption from a physician and a pharmacy
refuses to fill it he should lose license.
the pope would be well advised to put his own house in order. but he'd
rather put child molesters into the priesthood and who put a molester in
charge of the 2nd most prestigious church in the religion.

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:42:04 GMT, Ilas  wrote:

>"Der Weiße Wolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in
>news:t3jhi3tbrvrd418d8s5c7fi00ogpo2cs2s@4ax.com: 
>
>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:20:30 -0000, "Mens sana" 
>> wrote: 
>> 
>>>
>>>"max.it" <max.it@teatime> wrote in message 
>>>news:47264928.45534234@news.btinternet.com...
>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:13:26 -0400, "Der Weiße Wolf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   why was the Pope there at all ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>He was a Nazi and he was head of the Inquisition, this is a guy who
>>>likes to control what other people think and do. Fortunately there are
>>>more than enough rational professional pharmacists to ensure that the
>>>daft old gobshite's ramblings will have no effect on peoples lives.
>>>
>>>Mens sana.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> Atheist...?
>
>No, I'm pretty sure he's a catholic. Either that, or he shits in the woods. 
>I can never remember which.

I was asking if Mens sana was an aithiest...  I guess he is and your one two...
Go find a room!  LOL!

Ray

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