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date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:59:39 -0700,
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Re: Inaccuracies in Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth
On 29 Oct, 13:07, "William A. T. Clark"
wrote:
> In article ,
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> freeireland wrote:
> > On 29 Oct, 01:04, "William A. T. Clark"
> > wrote:
> > > In article ,
>
> > > > Well I have told you the name of the site and its "Student Review" and
> > > > thats only a sample. You mean he has the same problems with literacy
> > > > as you, is that what you mean to say? Or are you still claiming you
> > > > know more about the English language than the just about everyone else
> > > > still. I am still waiting for you to produce the definitive rules to
> > > > the English language or what gives you the authority to determine what
> > > > is or is not good or bad grammar?
>
> > > You have? All I have seen is someone who cannot separate Ohio University
> > > from The Ohio State University, or ME from MSE. Now, produce a URL or we
> > > are forced to conclude that this is yet another figment of your
> > > imagination.
>
> > What can't you goole "Student Review" or is that ability above you? Is
> > it true Ohio state university is now nickname "camp death" after a
> > student was killed in a lift.
>
> I can't "goole" anything - that's for Halloween. However, I know that if
> you actually had a URL you'd post it, so I'm not going to waste time
> looking for fictional "quotes".
lol, you do crack me up!
>
> Your sick attempt at laughing at a genuine tragedy is disgusting. I'm
> sure you laughed like a drain, too, when some of your "heroes" got blown
> up while making bombs to kill others.
>
Again how little you know me, and I certainly never laughed at it, I
just asked a genuine question. So I will take that as an affirmitive.
Not good for the old safety record is it. I have never had a any hero
make a bomb at all and thats nothing more than a lame discredit by
association flame. Yawn like thats never been tried before. The one
thing I will give you credit for is a severe lake of imagination.
>
>
> > > > Your in no position to comment on anyones literacy with your spelling
> > > > or wild untrue accusations.
>
> > > "Your" not in any position to make accusations on this score.
>
> > > Oh, you're a busy little boy, aren't you? I have no recollection of
> > > this, but if I did it in a rush to move on from replying to the kind of
> > > drivel you post, then I was clearly wrong. At least I admit it.
>
> > lol, don't worry there are a good few of them. Do you think TMS have a
> > few.
>
> TMS? Do you even know what that is? I thought not, seeing as it is a
> "professional" society with strict admission standards.
>
I certainly know what they are. You should goto the TMS web site and
in the search type "Due to". You should see all the uneducated
illiterates according to your twisted english that are post there.
Even scientific papers use "Due to" as a preposition in the title on
that website.
> > Though using your own powers of deduction this must mean you have the
> > same level of education as me and are illiterate does it not?
>
> > Its fair to assume you are illiterate and uneducated. Though again
> > clearly its not a mistake though I have without doubt proved my
> > point.
>
> In your dreams. You know, just standing on a street corner shouting
> something does not eventually make it true. Lesson one.
>
Just like somebody has been saying "Due to" is a preposition.
All was using your use of grammar to determine that. After all, isn't
that what you have have been doing not just on this threa but others..
I thought I warned you of the dangerous of spelling or grammar
flaming.
>
>
> > > > > Number one, please remember that is it "The" Ohio State University.
> > > > > Number two, I give you an address to send the $100 check to. I don't
> > > > > need your money, so I would like you to send it in my name to:
>
> > > > > The Muscular Dystrophy Association
> > > > > 960 Kingsmill Parkway
> > > > > Columbus, OH 43229
>
> > > > > (614) 436-7744
>
> > > > > Let me know when you have sent it, and I will put them on alert to
> > > > > expect it. At least this way some good will come out of this nonsense.
>
> > > > > End of story.
>
> > > > lol, what a knob and just how have you proved your identity? What
> > > > after several request you have actually not even made an attempt. How
> > > > could you expect me to believe an associate Dean could be illiterate.
>
> > > Oh, tiresome little man, go find Seimi and chat with him. He'll do for
> > > an independent third party, and I'll provide him with evidence. However,
> > > I suspect you'll find more lies to wriggle your way out with. Of
> > > course, you could simply apologize.
>
> > So you think a post from an anonymous person is proof of your
> > identity. Clearly you have noway of proving you identidy to me or
> > anyone else unless you physically meet them. As for taking you at your
> > word well its clear you full of shit and lack the literacy skills you
> > expect everyone else to display on an informal forum.
>
> > You have had ample time to prove your identidy and you have not.
>
> Well, unlike you, I don't really feel the need to hide like a schoolboy
> behind some phony moniker. It's there for all to see. You are simply
> wiggling again. But I can see why you would want to.
>
lol, no instead you hide behind a another persons id!.
>
>
> > > Well, at least we have established that you are a welsher, pure and
> > > simple.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > The term welsher I think is pretty derogatory and many welsh people
> > would be severally insulted by it. Maybe you should appolgise to all
> > the Welsh people though I doubt to have any moral courage for that
> > either.
>
> Oh, dear, you seem to have run into an etymological problem again. Let
> me help you with the OED:
>
> "welsh, welch, v.i. & t. (Of loser of bet, esp. bookmaker) decamp
> without paying; hence ~ER n. [19th. c.; orig. unkn]
>
> Nothing to do with Wales or the Welsh. Sorry.
>
tut tut I would have expected you to have at least sought the origins
of the word. Do you think you where baited again.
The term comes from a group of English bookmakers who absconded over
to Wales to avoid having to pay out on a lot of long shots who came
in. This term became popular later when Edward Prince of Wales refused
to pay a few outstanding gambling debts. The english used many terms
that the Welsh find offensive such as "Welsh Rabbit" etc. Welsh
language magazine in the early 90s started a campaign in the US to get
the term "Welsher" banned as racist.
>
>
> > Clearly you cannot prove your identidy to me, I named my terms of the
> > wager and you failed to meet them. Now just pay up.
>
> Bluster, bluster, bluster. Like I say, set up any independent third
> party to verify identity (seeing as you are so determined to welsh on
> the bet). Loser to pay his/her costs.
>
> The MDA is really looking forward to your donation.
>
> William Clark
So can you quote me where I agreed to those terms!
You know its only $100 how can you refuse to pay upto the Foyle
Hospice. tut tut tut.
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:59:39 -0700
author: freeireland
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Re: Inaccuracies in Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth
In article ,
freeireland wrote:
> On 6 Nov, 17:54, "William A. T. Clark" wrote:
> > In article ,
> > > > > You also believed it was about another university. I have already
> > > > > posted the web site I quoted from and the quote is in its full
> > > > > context.
> >
> > > > No, you didn't know the difference between Ohio University and The Ohio
> > > > State University - that was the problem, and it was all yours. Now, you
> > > > have NOT posted the web site, in my opinion because it does not exist
> > > > outside your imagination. If it does, then post the URL and we can all
> > > > look at it. Otherwise own up to the fact that this is a complete
> > > > fabrication, and you have been caught in a lie. Why am I not surprised?
> >
> > > Yawn, I have named the site and the quote is clearly in regards to
> > > OSU. I don't care if you think its a fabrication and the quote is
> > > available on the website I named previously for all wh are interested
> > > to go and look at.
> >
> > No, you have not "named" any website for this quotation. You, of course,
> > will not give a traceable reference because this particular "quotation"
> > is something you made up (or else refers to Ohio University). I'm not
> > surprised you will not give it, given the magnitude of the gaffe you
> > made. Too bad for you.
> >
> >
>
>
> "Well I have told you the name of the site and its "Student Review"
> and
> thats only a sample."
>
> This is me clearly naming the web site last week and clearly the quote
> refers to OSU and the elevator incident.
>
> Please now have the denceny to retract your statement "No, you have
> not 'named' any website for this quotation".
OK, so it is settled. There is no such site, unless you are taking about
"Student"s"" Review. That totally worthless chat forum contains five
negative comments about OSU, compared to over 70 positive ones. FIVE
negative one - do you have a clue how many students there are on this
campus, and what fraction FIVE represents? There is no URL in existence,
and you made the post up just to denigrate an institution you know
absolutely nothing about (and cannot even distinguish from Ohio
University). You are, pure and simple, a bare faced liar. Case proven
and closed.
>
>
> > > > > > > "Like I say, set up any independent third party to verify
> > > > > > > identity"
> > > > > > > thats what you said and I have set up my independent third party
> > > > > > > arbitrator as you stated. Still using the racist remarks I see,
> > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > you can't play the ignorance card as I have already pointed out
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > many welsh people find it offensive. What have you got against
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Welsh. I am from Northern Ireland, raised in the bogside in Derry
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > sorry if I laugh at your pathetic Cleveland Browns lineman man
> > > > > > > thinly
> > > > > > > veiled threat.
> >
> > > > > > Like I said, your buddy does not qualify as "independent". Nothing
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > with racism (oh, what a martyr you are), just a suspicion that he
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > biased. Pick a lawyer or notary - someone whose neutrality can be
> > > > > > relied
> > > > > > upon - loser to pay. And don't think you can make me nervous with
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > this blather about the Bogside. I know what it is, I've been there
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > times than you care to think. Whoopee.
> >
> > > > > Marty is a solictor and highly respected at that. Its time you had a
> > > > > reality check, you cannot prove your identity never mind anything
> > > > > else. Can you imagine sending somebody else down to the bank as
> > > > > third
> > > > > party proof of idenity. Catch yourself on.
> >
> > > > I'm not sure you can prove that you actually live on this planet.
> > > > Doesn't seem so from your ramblings.
> >
> > > Well I am not foolish enough to start making wagers which involve
> > > proving my identity.
> >
> > But you are dumb enough to go around making up "quotations" purporting
> > to criticize a university whose identity you cannot even get right. Yes,
> > that is really smart.
> >
> > Oh, and telling people what academic qualifications they do and don't
> > have, and then having to find every weasel device on earth to wriggle
> > out of your blunder. Smarter still.
> >
> >
>
> I have every right to doubt anyone posts in these forums and if you
> want to prove otherwise then feel free. Though only a moron would even
> attempt to make a wager with someone on here.
>
> "Oh, and telling people what academic qualifications they do and don't
> have", maybe you should have thought of that before you started to
> post your assumptions about me.
>
>
Only a moron would be stupid enough to persist in questioning someone's
qualifications when Google exists. That is REALLY dumb. I could care
less about who or what you are.
> >
> >
> > > Though I noticed you snipped your Welsh insults. Though i am still
> > > waiting for your retraction of "And it is 'Welsh Rarebit', not 'Welsh
> > > Rabbit', FYI".
> >
> > > You then went further claiming "There - my turn to catch you! Done -
> > > see 'Fowler's Modern English Usage' for the correct explanation,
> > > under 'True and False Etymology'".
> >
> > > Its clear why you did not provide this quote because its clear Fowler
> > > claims "Welsh
> > > Rabbit is amusing and right," and "and Welsh Rarebit is stupid and
> > > wrong". You verified this with "Yes, that's on page 114 - check it
> > > for yourself"
> >
> > > This is dishonesty of the highest order. If Fowler is spinnning in his
> > > grave I am sure its more likely at your dishonest use of his name, to
> > > try and claim "And it is 'Welsh Rarebit', not 'Welsh Rabbit', FYI".
> >
> > > You should retract your original statement and aplogise for your
> > > racist Welsh slurs.
> >
> > Now you cannot even read. You are the one that carefully snipped the
> > piece about "rabbit" and "rarebit", and why I put that in. Do you think
> > I would really be dumb enough to quote this without looking it up? Now
> > that I am in the correct place, go look up Fowler, page 651 and 652 -
> > that's where I got the information to bait MY little trap, which you
> > greedily took. How you have not yet seen the joke is beyond me.
>
> Where is your quote then? Go on I challenge you to post it here!
> Clearly I have posted what Fowler and Burchfield actually said on the
> matter below. Clearly this statement you made is wrong "And it is
> 'Welsh Rarebit', not 'Welsh Rabbit', FYI" and clearly Fowler said that
> it is wrong.
Go to Fowler, page 651 and 652. I assume you CAN read. It is right
there, as it was when I read it before making that post.
>
>
> "Welsh rarebit (first recorded in 1785 as 'an etymologizing
> alteration' of the earlier Welsh rabbit)"
>
> The New Fowler's Modern English Usage - Revised 1998 - Burchfield RW.
> page 305
>
> "rabbit (noun). For Welsh rabbit (or rarebit), See WELSH RABBIT."
>
> The New Fowler's Modern English Usage - Revised 1998 - Burchfield RW.
> page 649
>
> "Welsh rabbit, not rare bit nor rarebit"
Silly waste of bandwidth snipped - it has already been established that
this was a sprat to catch a mackerel, and, boy, did you bite.>
> >
> > Now, give me your solicitor pal's contact information, and I will
> > arrange to get him whatever he thinks is appropriate.
>
> So you want me to give you a friends contact information when I would
> not give you my own. Marty said he will met you and since you have
> been to the bogside what better place than the Bogside Inn.
OK, then give me his web site. If he has any professional credentials at
all, then he will have one. Unless, of course, this is another fiction.
I'd be happy to meet at the Bogside Inn - I assume, since you are
prescribing these conditions, that you will therefore provide the
airfare.
William Clark
date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:51:05 -0500
author: William A. T. Clark
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