Myreader.co.uk  
uk news, chat and community
   home   |   control panel login   |   archive   |  
 
soc
community.ambulance
community.childcare
community.firefighting
community.policing
community.social-housing
community.voluntary
culture.arts.storytelling
culture.arts.theatre
culture.arts.writing
culture.lang.english
culture.museums
culture.nostalgia.1980s
cur.-events.us-bombing
current-events.general
current-events.n-ireland
current-events.terrorism
food+drink.chocolate
food+drink.indian
food+drink.misc
food+drink.real-ale
food+drink.restaurants
  
 
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:30:49 -0700,    group: uk.current-events.n-ireland        back       
Re: Inaccuracies in Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth   
On 29 Oct, 01:04, "William A. T. Clark" 
wrote:
> In article ,
>
>
>
>
>
>  freeireland  wrote:
> > On 28 Oct, 15:14, "William A. T. Clark" 
> > wrote:
> > > In article ,
>
> > >  freeireland  wrote:
> > > > On 28 Oct, 00:14, "Séimí mac Liam"  wrote:
> > > > > freeireland  wrote
> > > > > innews:1193529968.938019.92590@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > > > > On 27 Oct, 21:46, "William A. T. Clark" 
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Snip all this bullshit.
>
> > > > > Here's an end to this stupid
> > > > > argument:http://www.tms.org/Society/Honors/1999/DistService99.html
>
> > > > Thanks Séimí though I have already spotted this. Though clearly the
> > > > point is I could claim to be Mickey Mouse he has noway of proving his
> > > > identity to me other than what banks or mobile phone companies find
> > > > acceptable. Drivers license or passport along with a utility bill from
> > > > the same address. Also the the person appears with those documents. If
> > > > I say hes a cat and he would have noway of proving he is not, very
> > > > smart for a cat not so much for a human being though.
>
> > > Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. There's no end to the lengths you go to to cover
> > > your tracks, is there?
>
> > > > After all how could an associate dean  make simple spelling mistakes
> > > > and make wild incorrect claims without even correcting them. Though
> > > > maybe thats why in student review one ex student says "I think Ohio
> > > > University (ME department) lacks the quality research and teachers.
> > > > Most of the research is of little importance and serves no other
> > > > purpose but to get a degree".
>
> > > "One ex student". And not even the right department, either. Please
> > > provide a reference to this "quote" - the author appears to have as much
> > > trouble with literacy as you do. I suspect it's a fake.
>
> > Well I have told you the name of the site and its "Student Review" and
> > thats only a sample. You mean he has the same problems with literacy
> > as you, is that what you mean to say? Or are you still claiming you
> > know more about the English language than the just about everyone else
> > still. I am still waiting for you to produce the definitive rules to
> > the English language or what gives you the authority to determine what
> > is or is not good or bad grammar?
>
> You have? All I have seen is someone who cannot separate Ohio University
> from The Ohio State University, or ME from MSE. Now, produce a URL or we
> are forced to conclude that this is yet another figment of your
> imagination.
>

What can't you goole "Student Review" or is that ability above you? Is
it true Ohio state university is now nickname "camp death" after a
student was killed in a lift.

>
>
> > Your in no position to comment on anyones literacy with your spelling
> > or wild untrue accusations.
>
> "Your" not in any position to make accusations on this score.
>

you see there is a fallacy when you attempt to correct grammar. Do I
really have to point how how illiterate you are again. How the little
rules which are just a figment of your imagination are simply wrong.


>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Is it true that students actually die in elevators there?
>
> > > > It would be funny though if everyone in Ohio University received a
> > > > link to this thread!
>
> > > Ohio University? LOL. That's a totally different institution! You don't
> > > even have a clue what you are talking about, do you?
>
> > > > Even Ohio University uses "Due to" as a preposition.
>
> > > "Ohio University" again. Oh, dear, oh dear.
>
> > Don't worry Ohio and Ohio State universities both use "Due to" as a
> > preposition.
>
> Probably because they made the mistake of employing someone with the
> same education as you.
>
>
>
> > What ignoring the "Due to" as a preposition issue again. Do you think
> > you look like a fool if I posted a quote from you using "Due to" as a
> > preposition?
>
> > "K-12s in the US are much more well funded than private schools in
> > India. So, if they cannot keep pace, it's not due to a paucity of
> > funding".
>
> > Posted by "William A. T. Clark" 
>
> > Clearly you have no education or you would never have typed this?
>
> Oh, you're a busy little boy, aren't you? I have no recollection of
> this, but if I did it in a rush to move on from replying to the kind of
> drivel you post, then I was clearly wrong. At least I admit it.
>

lol, don't worry there are a good few of them. Do you think TMS have a
few.

Though using your own powers of deduction this must mean you have the
same level of education as me and are illiterate does it not?

Its fair to assume you are illiterate and uneducated. Though again
clearly its not a mistake though I have without doubt proved my
point.

>
>
>
>
>
> > > Number one, please remember that is it "The" Ohio State University.
> > > Number two, I give you an address to send the $100 check to. I don't
> > > need your money, so I would like you to send it in my name to:
>
> > > The Muscular Dystrophy Association
> > > 960 Kingsmill Parkway
> > > Columbus, OH 43229
>
> > > (614) 436-7744
>
> > > Let me know when you have sent it, and I will put them on alert to
> > > expect it. At least this way some good will come out of this nonsense.
>
> > > End of story.
>
> > lol, what a knob and just how have you proved your identity?  What
> > after several request you have actually not even made an attempt. How
> > could you expect me to believe an associate Dean could be illiterate.
>
> Oh, tiresome little man, go find Seimi and chat with him. He'll do for
> an independent third party, and I'll provide him with evidence. However,
> I suspect you'll find more lies to wriggle your way out with.  Of
> course, you could simply apologize.

So you think a post from an anonymous person is proof of your
identity. Clearly you have noway of proving you identidy to me or
anyone else unless you physically meet them. As for taking you at your
word well its clear you full of shit and lack the literacy skills you
expect everyone else to display on an informal forum.

You have had ample time to prove your identidy and you have not.


>
> Well, at least we have established that you are a welsher, pure and
> simple.- Hide quoted text -

I have established you are illiterate and uneducated according to your
own twisted reasoning.

I have shown you make typing and spelling mistakes just like everyone
else.

I have shown you do not know how "Due to" can be used in English
despite making two wild claims both of which you have had ample time
to correct but have not? Clearly you are avoiding this so I will take
that as subtle admittance you are wrong.

Again I challenge you to show me these magical rules of the English
language and who maintains it. Again I have proven the English
language is evolutionary and you are simply a fossil way out of his
time.


The term welsher I think is pretty derogatory and many welsh people
would be severally insulted by it. Maybe you should appolgise to all
the Welsh people though I doubt to have any moral courage for that
either.

Clearly you cannot prove your identidy to me, I named my terms of the
wager and you failed to meet them. Now just pay up.



>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:30:49 -0700   author:   freeireland

Re: Inaccuracies in Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth   
In article ,
 freeireland  wrote:

> On 6 Nov, 14:29, "William A. T. Clark"  wrote:
> > In article ,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  freeireland  wrote:
> > > On 4 Nov, 08:07, "William A. T. Clark" <clarknos...@masceng.ohio-
> > > state.edu> wrote:
> > > > In article ,
> >
> > > >  freeireland  wrote:
> > > > > > > > By the way, you are as ignorant about college tuition in Ohio 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > US
> > > > > > > > as you are about everything else, and as is this genius you 
> > > > > > > > quote.
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > suggest you go look up the actual figures before spouting off - 
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > makes you look dumb.
> >
> > > > > > > figures can be manipulated to say whatever you want. You had a 
> > > > > > > prime
> > > > > > > chance to put a case forward to show how good Ohio State 
> > > > > > > University
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > though instead revert to childish name calling about some person 
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > clearly know nothing about. Clearly a associate Dean would have 
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > intelligence and not be so obtuse. If by some chance you where I
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > that would be clearly put some weight behind the student I 
> > > > > > > quoted.
> >
> > > > > > I don't need a case, since you have provided absolutely nothing to
> > > > > > answer! Again, give me the citation, and I will then give you the
> > > > > > correct data in return. And whatever I "where", I notice that you 
> > > > > > made
> > > > > > sure to snip your original absurd claim, just in case anyone had so
> > > > > > much
> > > > > > time on their hands that they might think it worth trying to 
> > > > > > verify.
> >
> > > > > What drugs are you on, you have been trying to make a case in several
> > > > > regards. First you attempt to dismiss the student as "some eighteen
> > > > > year old idiot" then you try do discredit the post by  discrediting
> > > > > the web site. The next position you take is to claim the post is 
> > > > > about
> > > > > another university which clearly is preposterous since it refers to
> > > > > the lift incident and OSU directly.
> >
> > > > OK, then just provide the citation so we can all share it. Otherwise it
> > > > is seen for what it is, something you simply made up and passed off as
> > > > real. Wow, strange world you live in. If you can;t put your source up
> > > > for examination and discussion, then it is clearly phony.
> >
> > > > But I don't believe it exists.
> >
> > > You also believed it was about another university. I have already
> > > posted the web site I quoted from and the quote is in its full
> > > context.
> >
> > No, you didn't know the difference between Ohio University and The Ohio
> > State University - that was the problem, and it was all yours. Now, you
> > have NOT posted the web site, in my opinion because it does not exist
> > outside your imagination. If it does, then post the URL and we can all
> > look at it. Otherwise own up to the fact that this is a complete
> > fabrication, and you have been caught in a lie. Why am I not surprised?
> >
> >
> 
> Yawn, I have named the site and the quote is clearly in regards to
> OSU. I don't care if you think its a fabrication and the quote is
> available on the website I named previously for all wh are interested
> to go and look at.

No, you have not "named" any website for this quotation. You, of course, 
will not give a traceable reference because this particular "quotation" 
is something you made up (or else refers to Ohio University). I'm not 
surprised you will not give it, given the magnitude of the gaffe you 
made. Too bad for you.
> 

> >
> > > > > "Like I say, set up any independent third party to verify identity"
> > > > > thats what you said and I have set up my independent  third party
> > > > > arbitrator as you stated. Still using the racist remarks I see, now
> > > > > you can't play the ignorance card as I have already pointed out how
> > > > > many welsh people find it offensive. What have you got against the
> > > > > Welsh. I am from Northern Ireland, raised in the bogside in Derry so
> > > > > sorry if I laugh at your pathetic Cleveland Browns lineman man thinly
> > > > > veiled threat.
> >
> > > > Like I said, your buddy does not qualify as "independent". Nothing to 
> > > > do
> > > > with racism (oh, what a martyr you are), just a suspicion that he is
> > > > biased. Pick a lawyer or notary - someone whose neutrality can be 
> > > > relied
> > > > upon - loser to pay. And don't think you can make me nervous with all
> > > > this blather about the Bogside. I know what it is, I've been there more
> > > > times than you care to think. Whoopee.
> >
> > > Marty is a solictor and highly respected at that. Its time you had a
> > > reality check, you cannot prove your identity never mind anything
> > > else. Can you imagine sending somebody else down to the bank as  third
> > > party proof of idenity. Catch yourself on.
> >
> > I'm not sure you can prove that you actually live on this planet.
> > Doesn't seem so from your ramblings.
> >
> 
> Well I am not foolish enough to start making wagers which involve
> proving my identity.

But you are dumb enough to go around making up "quotations" purporting 
to criticize a university whose identity you cannot even get right. Yes, 
that is really smart.

Oh, and telling people what academic qualifications they do and don't 
have, and then having to find every weasel device on earth to wriggle 
out of your blunder. Smarter still.
> 
> >
> >
> > > You have had weeks to prove your identity and still you cannot even
> > > resulted to thinly veiled threats.
> >
> > Fine. Give me his name and (professional)  address, and I will be happy
> > communicate with him and let him have all the information he needs. Done
> > deal.
> >
> > Otherwise just withdraw the claim and apologize. It's that easy.
> 
> Sorry proof of identity means appearing in person, though I would not
> give you mine or anyones address after your threats.
> 
> Clearly this is nonesense of the highest order.

It is, is it? Banks can do it, governments can do it, everyone in the 
world can do it, but for you still trapped in your 1920's world, you 
cannot (will not?) confirm an identity. Of course not, because once that 
is done you lose - so you must keep creating impossible conditions to 
save your rear end from the consequences of your stupidity.
> 
> 
> Though I noticed you snipped your Welsh insults.  Though i am still
> waiting for your retraction of  "And it is 'Welsh Rarebit', not 'Welsh
> Rabbit', FYI".
> 
> You then went further claiming "There - my turn to catch you! Done -
> see 'Fowler's Modern English  Usage'  for the correct explanation,
> under 'True and False Etymology'".
> 
> Its clear why you did not provide this quote because its clear Fowler
> claims "Welsh
> Rabbit is amusing and right," and "and Welsh Rarebit is stupid and
> wrong".  You verified this with "Yes, that's on page 114 - check it
> for yourself"
> 
> This is dishonesty of the highest order. If Fowler is spinnning in his
> grave I am sure its more likely at your dishonest use of his name, to
> try and claim "And it is 'Welsh Rarebit', not 'Welsh Rabbit', FYI".
> 
> You should retract your original statement and aplogise for your
> racist Welsh slurs.

Now you cannot even read. You are the one that carefully snipped the 
piece about "rabbit" and "rarebit", and why I put that in. Do you think 
I would really be dumb enough to quote this without looking it up? Now 
that I am in the correct place, go look up Fowler, page 651 and 652 - 
that's where I got the information to bait MY little trap, which you 
greedily took. How you have not yet seen the joke is beyond me.

Now, give me your solicitor pal's contact information, and I will 
arrange to get him whatever he thinks is appropriate.

If he exists.

William Clark
date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:54:04 -0500   author:   William A. T. Clark

Google
 
Web myreader.co.uk


    COPYRIGHT 2007, YARDI TECHNOLOGY LIMITED, ALL RIGHT RESERVE  |   contact us