On 24 Oct, 02:51, "William A. T. Clark" <clarknos...@masceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article ,
>
>  freeireland  wrote:
>
> Snip a lot of BS
>
> SInce you seem to think that cutting and pasting a lot of barely
> relevant nonsense is a proper substitute for actually listening to the
> discussion, let's make it simple.
>
> 1) "Due to" is an adjective (or adjectival phrase). Therefore, in the
> sentence "Payment of all fees due to OUDCE is required in full before
> the first day of the course", "due to" is an adjective describing
> "fees". This is correct usage.

Clearly this is a context in which "Due to" can be used even though it
cannot be replaced by "caused by" as you claimed.

"'Due to' is really not correct in any context in which it cannot be
replaced by 'caused by'".

Why do you lack the moral courage to simply admit you where wrong when
you typed this then.

>
> 2) "The game was cancelled due to the rain" uses "due to" as a compound
> preposition whose meaning is "because of". This is not correct.
>
> Of course, if you prefer to think that continued incorrect usage then
> justifies simply abandoning the rules of grammar, go ahead. It is at
> least consistent with your cavalier attitude to the rest of the language.

Again nearly all modern day dictionaries (I have already quoted all
the best known) clearly say its quite acceptable to use "Due to" as a
preposition. The BBC english tutor again which I quoted from actually
teaches the use of "Due to" as a prepoistion. "Due to" as a
preposition again can be found in "The Times" and is widely used by
the BBC.

Heres another from Collins English Dictionary

"The use of due to as a compound preposition (the performance has been
cancelled due to bad weather) was formerly considered incorrect, but
is now acceptable"


Even the British government uses the term "Due to" as a preposition in
government legislation and regulations.

"from £75 to £85 where the disqualification is due to excess alcohol"

"The Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations
(Northern Ireland) 2007"

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/sr/sr2007/20070435.htm


In both American and British English "Due to" is acceptable as a
preposition and is used as such by the the government in legislation,
"The Times" newspaper and even taught as such by the BBC.



>
> Now, are you willing to put your faith in your assertion that I don't
> have a degree from Oxford to the $100 test? If not, then you can
> apologize for saying so, since I doubt you are good for the money
> anyway. Or would you rather just go on weaseling?


Look first thing first how would you prove it and secondly how would
you pay me? Considering I will not give you my address, email or
anything that would give my identity away.


>
> William Clark


So how can you be critical of typos when your prone to making quite a
few of them yourself. Don't you think that makes you look like a
hypocrite and really foolish.

In article ,
 freeireland  wrote:

> On 28 Oct, 00:14, "Séimí mac Liam"  wrote:
> > freeireland  wrote 
> > innews:1193529968.938019.92590@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > > On 27 Oct, 21:46, "William A. T. Clark" 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Snip all this bullshit.
> >
> > Here's an end to this stupid 
> > argument:http://www.tms.org/Society/Honors/1999/DistService99.html
> 
> Thanks Séimí though I have already spotted this. Though clearly the
> point is I could claim to be Mickey Mouse he has noway of proving his
> identity to me other than what banks or mobile phone companies find
> acceptable. Drivers license or passport along with a utility bill from
> the same address. Also the the person appears with those documents. If
> I say hes a cat and he would have noway of proving he is not, very
> smart for a cat not so much for a human being though.

Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. There's no end to the lengths you go to to cover 
your tracks, is there?
> 
> After all how could an associate dean  make simple spelling mistakes
> and make wild incorrect claims without even correcting them. Though
> maybe thats why in student review one ex student says "I think Ohio
> University (ME department) lacks the quality research and teachers.
> Most of the research is of little importance and serves no other
> purpose but to get a degree".

"One ex student". And not even the right department, either. Please 
provide a reference to this "quote" - the author appears to have as much 
trouble with literacy as you do. I suspect it's a fake.
> 
> It would be funny though if everyone in Ohio University received a
> link to this thread!

Ohio University? LOL. That's a totally different institution! You don't 
even have a clue what you are talking about, do you?
> 
> 
> Even Ohio University uses "Due to" as a preposition.
> 
"Ohio University" again. Oh, dear, oh dear.

Number one, please remember that is it "The" Ohio State University. 
Number two, I give you an address to send the $100 check to. I don't 
need your money, so I would like you to send it in my name to:

The Muscular Dystrophy Association
960 Kingsmill Parkway
Columbus, OH 43229

(614) 436-7744

Let me know when you have sent it, and I will put them on alert to 
expect it. At least this way some good will come out of this nonsense.

End of story.

William Clark

freeireland  wrote in
news:1193538717.813828.47990@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com: 

> On 28 Oct, 00:14, "Séimí mac Liam"  wrote:
>> freeireland  wrote
>> innews:1193529968.938019.92590@5 
> 7g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On 27 Oct, 21:46, "William A. T. Clark" 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Snip all this bullshit.
>>
>> Here's an end to this stupid
>> argument:http://www.tms.org/Society/Honors/1 
> 999/DistService99.html
> 
> Thanks Séimí though I have already spotted this. Though clearly the
> point is I could claim to be Mickey Mouse he has noway of proving his
> identity to me other than what banks or mobile phone companies find
> acceptable. Drivers license or passport along with a utility bill from
> the same address. Also the the person appears with those documents. If
> I say hes a cat and he would have noway of proving he is not, very
> smart for a cat not so much for a human being though.
> 
> After all how could an associate dean  make simple spelling mistakes
> and make wild incorrect claims without even correcting them. Though
> maybe thats why in student review one ex student says "I think Ohio
> University (ME department) lacks the quality research and teachers.
> Most of the research is of little importance and serves no other
> purpose but to get a degree".
> 
> It would be funny though if everyone in Ohio University received a
> link to this thread!
> 
> 
> Even Ohio University uses "Due to" as a preposition.
> 
> "Dr. William A.T. Clark, Associate Dean of the Graduate School is the
> primary contact for ETD Questions."
> 
> "If you have difficulty accessing any portions of this site due to
> incompatibility with adaptive technology or need the information in an
> alternative format, please contact Larry Allen."
> 
> - http://library.osu.edu/sites/cataloging/etd.php
> 
> 
>>
>> --
>> Saint Séimí mac Liam
>> Carriagemaker to the  court of Queen Maeve
>> Prophet of The Great Tagger
>> Canonized December '99
> 
> 
> 

I didn't say I thought him intelligent, just that he is who he says he 
is. :-)

-- 
Saint Séimí mac Liam 
Carriagemaker to the  court of Queen Maeve 
Prophet of The Great Tagger 
Canonized December '99

In article ,
 freeireland  wrote:

> On 28 Oct, 15:14, "William A. T. Clark" 
> wrote:
> > In article ,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  freeireland  wrote:
> > > On 28 Oct, 00:14, "Séimí mac Liam"  wrote:
> > > > freeireland  wrote
> > > > innews:1193529968.938019.92590@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > > > > On 27 Oct, 21:46, "William A. T. Clark" 
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Snip all this bullshit.
> >
> > > > Here's an end to this stupid
> > > > argument:http://www.tms.org/Society/Honors/1999/DistService99.html
> >
> > > Thanks Séimí though I have already spotted this. Though clearly the
> > > point is I could claim to be Mickey Mouse he has noway of proving his
> > > identity to me other than what banks or mobile phone companies find
> > > acceptable. Drivers license or passport along with a utility bill from
> > > the same address. Also the the person appears with those documents. If
> > > I say hes a cat and he would have noway of proving he is not, very
> > > smart for a cat not so much for a human being though.
> >
> > Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. There's no end to the lengths you go to to cover
> > your tracks, is there?
> >
> >
> >
> > > After all how could an associate dean  make simple spelling mistakes
> > > and make wild incorrect claims without even correcting them. Though
> > > maybe thats why in student review one ex student says "I think Ohio
> > > University (ME department) lacks the quality research and teachers.
> > > Most of the research is of little importance and serves no other
> > > purpose but to get a degree".
> >
> > "One ex student". And not even the right department, either. Please
> > provide a reference to this "quote" - the author appears to have as much
> > trouble with literacy as you do. I suspect it's a fake.
> 
> 
> Well I have told you the name of the site and its "Student Review" and
> thats only a sample. You mean he has the same problems with literacy
> as you, is that what you mean to say? Or are you still claiming you
> know more about the English language than the just about everyone else
> still. I am still waiting for you to produce the definitive rules to
> the English language or what gives you the authority to determine what
> is or is not good or bad grammar?

You have? All I have seen is someone who cannot separate Ohio University 
from The Ohio State University, or ME from MSE. Now, produce a URL or we 
are forced to conclude that this is yet another figment of your 
imagination.

> 
> Your in no position to comment on anyones literacy with your spelling
> or wild untrue accusations.

"Your" not in any position to make accusations on this score.
> 
> Is it true that students actually die in elevators there?
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > > It would be funny though if everyone in Ohio University received a
> > > link to this thread!
> >
> > Ohio University? LOL. That's a totally different institution! You don't
> > even have a clue what you are talking about, do you?
> >
> > > Even Ohio University uses "Due to" as a preposition.
> >
> > "Ohio University" again. Oh, dear, oh dear.
> 
> Don't worry Ohio and Ohio State universities both use "Due to" as a
> preposition.

Probably because they made the mistake of employing someone with the 
same education as you.
> 
> What ignoring the "Due to" as a preposition issue again. Do you think
> you look like a fool if I posted a quote from you using "Due to" as a
> preposition?
> 
> "K-12s in the US are much more well funded than private schools in
> India. So, if they cannot keep pace, it's not due to a paucity of
> funding".
> 
> Posted by "William A. T. Clark" 
> 
> Clearly you have no education or you would never have typed this?

Oh, you're a busy little boy, aren't you? I have no recollection of 
this, but if I did it in a rush to move on from replying to the kind of 
drivel you post, then I was clearly wrong. At least I admit it.
> 
> >
> > Number one, please remember that is it "The" Ohio State University.
> > Number two, I give you an address to send the $100 check to. I don't
> > need your money, so I would like you to send it in my name to:
> >
> > The Muscular Dystrophy Association
> > 960 Kingsmill Parkway
> > Columbus, OH 43229
> >
> > (614) 436-7744
> >
> > Let me know when you have sent it, and I will put them on alert to
> > expect it. At least this way some good will come out of this nonsense.
> >
> > End of story.
> >
> 
> lol, what a knob and just how have you proved your identity?  What
> after several request you have actually not even made an attempt. How
> could you expect me to believe an associate Dean could be illiterate.

Oh, tiresome little man, go find Seimi and chat with him. He'll do for 
an independent third party, and I'll provide him with evidence. However, 
I suspect you'll find more lies to wriggle your way out with.  Of 
course, you could simply apologize.

Well, at least we have established that you are a welsher, pure and 
simple.

freeireland  wrote in news:1193615475.367776.163250
@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> On 28 Oct, 15:14, "William A. T. Clark" 
> wrote:
>> In article ,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  freeireland  wrote:
>> > On 28 Oct, 00:14, "Séimí mac Liam"  wro
> te:
>> > > freeireland  wrote
>> > > innews:1193529968.938019.92590@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > > > On 27 Oct, 21:46, "William A. T. Clark" 
>> > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > Snip all this bullshit.
>>
>> > > Here's an end to this stupid
>> > > argument:http://www.tms.org/Society/Honors/1999/DistService99.html
>>
>> > Thanks Séimí though I have already spotted this. Though clearly the
>> > point is I could claim to be Mickey Mouse he has noway of proving 
his
>> > identity to me other than what banks or mobile phone companies find
>> > acceptable. Drivers license or passport along with a utility bill 
from
>> > the same address. Also the the person appears with those documents. 
If
>> > I say hes a cat and he would have noway of proving he is not, very
>> > smart for a cat not so much for a human being though.
>>
>> Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. There's no end to the lengths you go to to 
cover
>> your tracks, is there?
>>
>>
>>
>> > After all how could an associate dean  make simple spelling mistakes
>> > and make wild incorrect claims without even correcting them. Though
>> > maybe thats why in student review one ex student says "I think Ohio
>> > University (ME department) lacks the quality research and teachers.
>> > Most of the research is of little importance and serves no other
>> > purpose but to get a degree".
>>
>> "One ex student". And not even the right department, either. Please
>> provide a reference to this "quote" - the author appears to have as 
much
>> trouble with literacy as you do. I suspect it's a fake.
> 
> 
> Well I have told you the name of the site and its "Student Review" and
> thats only a sample. You mean he has the same problems with literacy
> as you, is that what you mean to say? Or are you still claiming you
> know more about the English language than the just about everyone else
> still. I am still waiting for you to produce the definitive rules to
> the English language or what gives you the authority to determine what
> is or is not good or bad grammar?
> 
> Your in no position to comment on anyones literacy with your spelling
> or wild untrue accusations.
> 
> Is it true that students actually die in elevators there?
> 
>>
>>
>>
>> > It would be funny though if everyone in Ohio University received a
>> > link to this thread!
>>
>> Ohio University? LOL. That's a totally different institution! You 
don't
>> even have a clue what you are talking about, do you?
>>
>> > Even Ohio University uses "Due to" as a preposition.
>>
>> "Ohio University" again. Oh, dear, oh dear.
> 
> Don't worry Ohio and Ohio State universities both use "Due to" as a
> preposition.
> 
> What ignoring the "Due to" as a preposition issue again. Do you think
> you look like a fool if I posted a quote from you using "Due to" as a
> preposition?
> 
> "K-12s in the US are much more well funded than private schools in
> India. So, if they cannot keep pace, it's not due to a paucity of
> funding".
> 
> Posted by "William A. T. Clark" 
> 
> Clearly you have no education or you would never have typed this?
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Number one, please remember that is it "The" Ohio State University.
>> Number two, I give you an address to send the $100 check to. I don't
>> need your money, so I would like you to send it in my name to:
>>
>> The Muscular Dystrophy Association
>> 960 Kingsmill Parkway
>> Columbus, OH 43229
>>
>> (614) 436-7744
>>
>> Let me know when you have sent it, and I will put them on alert to
>> expect it. At least this way some good will come out of this nonsense.
>>
>> End of story.
>>
> 
> lol, what a knob and just how have you proved your identity?  What
> after several request you have actually not even made an attempt. How
> could you expect me to believe an associate Dean could be illiterate.
> 
> 
> you can send your $100 to the Foyle Hospice.
> 
> you can donate online at http://www.foylehospice.com/.
> 
> 
>> William Clark- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> 
> 

Not sure what an associate dean is, but my father-in-law was an assistant 
dean at Toledo U and has much the same attitude as our anal friend. 
Thinks because he has a fud and a key his shit don't stink and anyone 
without is an ignorant redneck.

-- 
Saint Séimí mac Liam 
Carriagemaker to the  court of Queen Maeve 
Prophet of The Great Tagger 
Canonized December '99

In article ,
 "Séimí mac Liam"  wrote:

> freeireland  wrote in news:1193615475.367776.163250
> @o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
> 
> > On 28 Oct, 15:14, "William A. T. Clark" 
> > wrote:
> >> In article ,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  freeireland  wrote:
> >> > On 28 Oct, 00:14, "Séimí mac Liam"  wro
> > te:
> >> > > freeireland  wrote
> >> > > innews:1193529968.938019.92590@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > > > On 27 Oct, 21:46, "William A. T. Clark" 
> >> > > > wrote:
> >>
> >> > > Snip all this bullshit.
> >>
> >> > > Here's an end to this stupid
> >> > > argument:http://www.tms.org/Society/Honors/1999/DistService99.html
> >>
> >> > Thanks Séimí though I have already spotted this. Though clearly the
> >> > point is I could claim to be Mickey Mouse he has noway of proving 
> his
> >> > identity to me other than what banks or mobile phone companies find
> >> > acceptable. Drivers license or passport along with a utility bill 
> from
> >> > the same address. Also the the person appears with those documents. 
> If
> >> > I say hes a cat and he would have noway of proving he is not, very
> >> > smart for a cat not so much for a human being though.
> >>
> >> Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. There's no end to the lengths you go to to 
> cover
> >> your tracks, is there?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > After all how could an associate dean  make simple spelling mistakes
> >> > and make wild incorrect claims without even correcting them. Though
> >> > maybe thats why in student review one ex student says "I think Ohio
> >> > University (ME department) lacks the quality research and teachers.
> >> > Most of the research is of little importance and serves no other
> >> > purpose but to get a degree".
> >>
> >> "One ex student". And not even the right department, either. Please
> >> provide a reference to this "quote" - the author appears to have as 
> much
> >> trouble with literacy as you do. I suspect it's a fake.
> > 
> > 
> > Well I have told you the name of the site and its "Student Review" and
> > thats only a sample. You mean he has the same problems with literacy
> > as you, is that what you mean to say? Or are you still claiming you
> > know more about the English language than the just about everyone else
> > still. I am still waiting for you to produce the definitive rules to
> > the English language or what gives you the authority to determine what
> > is or is not good or bad grammar?
> > 
> > Your in no position to comment on anyones literacy with your spelling
> > or wild untrue accusations.
> > 
> > Is it true that students actually die in elevators there?
> > 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > It would be funny though if everyone in Ohio University received a
> >> > link to this thread!
> >>
> >> Ohio University? LOL. That's a totally different institution! You 
> don't
> >> even have a clue what you are talking about, do you?
> >>
> >> > Even Ohio University uses "Due to" as a preposition.
> >>
> >> "Ohio University" again. Oh, dear, oh dear.
> > 
> > Don't worry Ohio and Ohio State universities both use "Due to" as a
> > preposition.
> > 
> > What ignoring the "Due to" as a preposition issue again. Do you think
> > you look like a fool if I posted a quote from you using "Due to" as a
> > preposition?
> > 
> > "K-12s in the US are much more well funded than private schools in
> > India. So, if they cannot keep pace, it's not due to a paucity of
> > funding".
> > 
> > Posted by "William A. T. Clark" 
> > 
> > Clearly you have no education or you would never have typed this?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> Number one, please remember that is it "The" Ohio State University.
> >> Number two, I give you an address to send the $100 check to. I don't
> >> need your money, so I would like you to send it in my name to:
> >>
> >> The Muscular Dystrophy Association
> >> 960 Kingsmill Parkway
> >> Columbus, OH 43229
> >>
> >> (614) 436-7744
> >>
> >> Let me know when you have sent it, and I will put them on alert to
> >> expect it. At least this way some good will come out of this nonsense.
> >>
> >> End of story.
> >>
> > 
> > lol, what a knob and just how have you proved your identity?  What
> > after several request you have actually not even made an attempt. How
> > could you expect me to believe an associate Dean could be illiterate.
> > 
> > 
> > you can send your $100 to the Foyle Hospice.
> > 
> > you can donate online at http://www.foylehospice.com/.
> > 
> > 
> >> William Clark- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Not sure what an associate dean is, but my father-in-law was an assistant 
> dean at Toledo U and has much the same attitude as our anal friend. 
> Thinks because he has a fud and a key his shit don't stink and anyone 
> without is an ignorant redneck.

You need to learn the difference between associate and assistant deans. 
Besides, I am not an associate dean. However, at least you know who I 
am, so please tell our little friend that claiming he can't verify my 
identity as a means of getting out of paying up on the wager is just a 
crock.

Thank you

William Clark