On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:47:58 +0100, "eugene" <eugene@home.com.invalid> wrote:

>Just for Ray
>
>http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/1411937644_a945d8046f_o.jpg 
>


That sort of thing might get your rocks off, but see me, i'm NORMAL!  See a
doctor if sympthoms continue...  

Ray

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WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:47:58 +0100, "eugene"
> <eugene@home.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Just for Ray
>>
>> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/1411937644_a945d8046f_o.jpg
>>
>
>
> That sort of thing might get your rocks off, but see me, i'm NORMAL!
> See a doctor if sympthoms continue...

Ray? Catch yourself on!! You most certainly are NOT normal!! - IMO, it is 
you who should be seeing a doctor, nobody else.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:32:37 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
wrote:

>WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:47:58 +0100, "eugene"
>> <eugene@home.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Just for Ray
>>>
>>> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/1411937644_a945d8046f_o.jpg
>>>
>>
>>
>> That sort of thing might get your rocks off, but see me, i'm NORMAL!
>> See a doctor if sympthoms continue...
>
>Ray? Catch yourself on!! You most certainly are NOT normal!! - IMO, it is 
>you who should be seeing a doctor, nobody else.

Did you read the BBC report that child molesters might be findable by a test...
and suggesting anti-schizo drug as a cure for child molesting desires...  Coming
next, a cure for homos...  Question... if they found one...  Would the queers
actually take it or are they too busy being martyrs and too used to the leftist
media attention to take the cure and become a normal person?

Ray

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WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:32:37 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."
>  wrote:
>
>> WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:47:58 +0100, "eugene"
>>> <eugene@home.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just for Ray
>>>>
>>>> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/1411937644_a945d8046f_o.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That sort of thing might get your rocks off, but see me, i'm NORMAL!
>>> See a doctor if sympthoms continue...
>>
>> Ray? Catch yourself on!! You most certainly are NOT normal!! - IMO,
>> it is you who should be seeing a doctor, nobody else.
>
> Did you read the BBC report that child molesters might be findable by
> a test... and suggesting anti-schizo drug as a cure for child
> molesting desires...  Coming next, a cure for homos...  Question...
> if they found one...  Would the queers actually take it or are they
> too busy being martyrs and too used to the leftist media attention to
> take the cure and become a normal person?

Ray, you are a very sick person. Go get some help.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message 
news:5lqnedF60kikU1@mid.individual.net...
> WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:

> Ray, you are a very sick person. Go get some help.

It's not often i agree with you, harry, but I certainly do this time - he's 
a *very* sick person.

WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:32:37 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."
>  wrote:
>
>> WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:47:58 +0100, "eugene"
>>> <eugene@home.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just for Ray
>>>>
>>>> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/1411937644_a945d8046f_o.jpg
>>>
>>> That sort of thing might get your rocks off, but see me, i'm NORMAL!
>>> See a doctor if sympthoms continue...
>>
>> Ray? Catch yourself on!! You most certainly are NOT normal!! - IMO, it is
>> you who should be seeing a doctor, nobody else.
>
> Did you read the BBC report that child molesters might be findable by a
> test... and suggesting anti-schizo drug as a cure for child molesting
> desires...

No-one has suggested that Paedophilia is related to Schizophrenia - and as 
far as I'm aware there is no miracle cure for that either.

The idea of pre-diagnosis is fascinating: I can't help wondering if we're 
heading for a "Minority Report" style world in which a Department of 
Pre-Crime takes people off the streets (or medicates the potentially 
perverted) with no recourse to appeal their decisions - because no crime 
exists. You'd just better hope and pray they make damned sure the science is 
right.

> Coming next, a cure for homos...  Question... if they found
> one...  Would the queers actually take it or are they too busy being
> martyrs and too used to the leftist media attention to take the cure and
> become a normal person?

I've searched and searched for this mythical homosexual propaganda 
offensive, but the 'leftist' media seems to be ignoring them. Curious 
though. I thought your view was that homosexuality was a lifestyle choice? 
Are we to assume that you've backed off from that ridiculous position?

-- 
Falcon:
fide, sed cui vide. (L)

Falcon wrote:
...
> No-one has suggested that Paedophilia is related to Schizophrenia -
> and as far as I'm aware there is no miracle cure for that either.

> The idea of pre-diagnosis is fascinating: I can't help wondering if
> we're heading for a "Minority Report" style world in which a
> Department of Pre-Crime takes people off the streets (or medicates
> the potentially perverted) with no recourse to appeal their decisions
> - because no crime exists. You'd just better hope and pray they make
> damned sure the science is right.

I find the idea of forced treatment based on impulses that may never be
acted on deeply disturbing. Everybody has wishes and desires which cannot or
should not be gratified. It's the ability to control oneself that is
important. The most depraved criminals in Dublin and Limerick are a threat
to everyone not because they have perverted impulses - it's because they
feel no restraint in indulging themselves, whether it's stealing a car or
raping a young relative.

-- 



J/

SOTW: "When Under Ether" - P.J.Harvey

Westprog wrote:

> Falcon wrote:
> ...
>> No-one has suggested that Paedophilia is related to Schizophrenia -
>> and as far as I'm aware there is no miracle cure for that either.
>
>> The idea of pre-diagnosis is fascinating: I can't help wondering if
>> we're heading for a "Minority Report" style world in which a
>> Department of Pre-Crime takes people off the streets (or medicates
>> the potentially perverted) with no recourse to appeal their decisions
>> - because no crime exists. You'd just better hope and pray they make
>> damned sure the science is right.
>
> I find the idea of forced treatment based on impulses that may never be
> acted on deeply disturbing. Everybody has wishes and desires which cannot
> or should not be gratified. It's the ability to control oneself that is
> important. The most depraved criminals in Dublin and Limerick are a threat
> to everyone not because they have perverted impulses - it's because they
> feel no restraint in indulging themselves, whether it's stealing a car or
> raping a young relative.

Well, as you are undoubtedly aware, science fiction writers have that base 
covered too. Lack of self control is the key to most things. Assert that 
amongst the great and not-so-good and you solve society's problems at a 
stroke. How much better would it be to simply medicate everyone with a daily 
dose of "Prozium" to achieve a state of "Equilibrium"? Policed by "Clerics", 
perhaps?

Add a universal DNA database that makes us all "suspects" and you have a 
vision of the future few of us would have dared to dream.

PS. Can't find anything in the New Scientist about this research, although 
someone has suggested that political affiliation could be a mental 
condition. Be afraid?...
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12614-political-affiliation-could-be-all-in-the-brain-.html

-- 
Falcon:
fide, sed cui vide. (L)

Scríobh "Falcon" :
>
>WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:

Please do not feed the troll.

-- 
'Donegal:  Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir

Féachadóir wrote:

> Scríobh "Falcon" :
>>
>> WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>
> Please do not feed the troll.

Who, me? Are you sure?

Read the first two lists of words and pause for a few minutes. Then read 
list 3 and put a mental tick against the words that were in the first two.

List 1:

apple, vegetable, orange, kiwi, citrus, ripe, pear, banana, berry, cherry, 
basket, juice, salad, bowl, cocktail

List 2:

web, insect, bug, fright, fly, arachnid, crawl, tarantula, poison, bite, 
creepy, animal, ugly, feelers, small

Now pause for a few minutes then scroll down...















List 3:

happy, woman, winter, circus, spider, feather, citrus, ugly, robber, piano, 
goat, ground, cherry, bitter, insect, fruit, suburb, kiwi, quick, mouse, 
pile, fish

Now go back and check your answers...

How spooky is that?

OK. So what were you saying?

-- 
Falcon:
fide, sed cui vide. (L)

"Falcon"  wrote in message 
news:fdb2bl$q93$1@aioe.org...
>
> Féachadóir wrote:
>
>> Scríobh "Falcon" :
>>>
>>> WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>> Please do not feed the troll.
>
> Who, me? Are you sure?
>
> Read the first two lists of words and pause for a few minutes. Then read 
> list 3 and put a mental tick against the words that were in the first two.
>
> List 1:
>
> apple, vegetable, orange, kiwi, citrus, ripe, pear, banana, berry, cherry, 
> basket, juice, salad, bowl, cocktail
>
> List 2:
>
> web, insect, bug, fright, fly, arachnid, crawl, tarantula, poison, bite, 
> creepy, animal, ugly, feelers, small
>
> Now pause for a few minutes then scroll down...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> List 3:
>
> happy, woman, winter, circus, spider, feather, citrus, ugly, robber, 
> piano, goat, ground, cherry, bitter, insect, fruit, suburb, kiwi, quick, 
> mouse, pile, fish
>
> Now go back and check your answers...
>
> How spooky is that?
>
> OK. So what were you saying?
>
> -- 
> Falcon:
> fide, sed cui vide. (L)
>

I only got citrus and insect....I imagined spider.........what was the point 
of that?
>
>

eugene wrote:

> "Falcon"  wrote in message
> news:fdb2bl$q93$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> Féachadóir wrote:
>>
>>> Scríobh "Falcon" :
>>>>
>>>> WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>> Please do not feed the troll.
>>
>> Who, me? Are you sure?
>>
>> Read the first two lists of words and pause for a few minutes. Then read
>> list 3 and put a mental tick against the words that were in the first
>> two. List 1:
>>
>> apple, vegetable, orange, kiwi, citrus, ripe, pear, banana, berry,
>> cherry, basket, juice, salad, bowl, cocktail
>>
>> List 2:
>>
>> web, insect, bug, fright, fly, arachnid, crawl, tarantula, poison, bite,
>> creepy, animal, ugly, feelers, small
>>
>> Now pause for a few minutes then scroll down...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> List 3:
>>
>> happy, woman, winter, circus, spider, feather, citrus, ugly, robber,
>> piano, goat, ground, cherry, bitter, insect, fruit, suburb, kiwi, quick,
>> mouse, pile, fish
>>
>> Now go back and check your answers...
>>
>> How spooky is that?
>>
>> OK. So what were you saying?
>>
>> --
>> Falcon:
>> fide, sed cui vide. (L)
>>
>
> I only got citrus and insect....I imagined spider.........what was the
> point of that?


No point at all. It's supposed to be a simple example of something called 
false memory syndrome, or the Deese-Roediger-McDermott paradigm. I 
remembered 'spider' too.

Apparently, a few years ago, the actor Alan Alda visited a group of memory 
researchers at the University of California, for a TV show he was making. 
During lunch, one of the scientists offered Alda a hard-boiled egg. He 
turned it down, explaining that as a child he had made himself sick eating 
too many eggs. In fact, this had never happened; the incident was a false 
memory planted by one of UC's researchers, Elizabeth Loftus.

Before the visit, Loftus had sent Alda a questionnaire about his food 
preferences and personality. She later told him that a computer analysis of 
his answers had revealed some facts about his childhood, including that he 
once made himself sick eating too many eggs. There was no such analysis but 
it was enough to convince him.

And I haven't fed the troll. Honestly.

-- 
Falcon:
fide, sed cui vide. (L)

WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:32:37 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."
>  wrote:
>
>> WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:47:58 +0100, "eugene"
>>> <eugene@home.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just for Ray
>>>>
>>>> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/1411937644_a945d8046f_o.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That sort of thing might get your rocks off, but see me, i'm NORMAL!
>>> See a doctor if sympthoms continue...
>>
>> Ray? Catch yourself on!! You most certainly are NOT normal!! - IMO,
>> it is you who should be seeing a doctor, nobody else.
>
> Did you read the BBC report that child molesters might be findable by
> a test... and suggesting anti-schizo drug as a cure for child
> molesting desires...  Coming next, a cure for homos...  Question...
> if they found one...  Would the queers actually take it or are they
> too busy being martyrs and too used to the leftist media attention to
> take the cure and become a normal person?
>
> Ray

Ray, have a look at this? Dr Kinsey is well known in this field:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey

It will go some way to prove your ideas are very foolish ones. Had he been 
alive, I would suggest you go see him. Since he is long dead, I suggest you 
see a modern equivalent.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:10:56 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
wrote:

>WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:32:37 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:47:58 +0100, "eugene"
>>>> <eugene@home.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just for Ray
>>>>>
>>>>> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/1411937644_a945d8046f_o.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That sort of thing might get your rocks off, but see me, i'm NORMAL!
>>>> See a doctor if sympthoms continue...
>>>
>>> Ray? Catch yourself on!! You most certainly are NOT normal!! - IMO,
>>> it is you who should be seeing a doctor, nobody else.
>>
>> Did you read the BBC report that child molesters might be findable by
>> a test... and suggesting anti-schizo drug as a cure for child
>> molesting desires...  Coming next, a cure for homos...  Question...
>> if they found one...  Would the queers actually take it or are they
>> too busy being martyrs and too used to the leftist media attention to
>> take the cure and become a normal person?
>
>Ray, you are a very sick person. Go get some help.

It's called Conservativism!  and it needs no cure!  What's needed is the world
to see things as we do!  Then things will be fine!  

Ray

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:00:21 +0100, "Falcon"  wrote:

>
>WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:32:37 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:47:58 +0100, "eugene"
>>>> <eugene@home.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just for Ray
>>>>>
>>>>> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/1411937644_a945d8046f_o.jpg
>>>>
>>>> That sort of thing might get your rocks off, but see me, i'm NORMAL!
>>>> See a doctor if sympthoms continue...
>>>
>>> Ray? Catch yourself on!! You most certainly are NOT normal!! - IMO, it is
>>> you who should be seeing a doctor, nobody else.
>>
>> Did you read the BBC report that child molesters might be findable by a
>> test... and suggesting anti-schizo drug as a cure for child molesting
>> desires...
>
>No-one has suggested that Paedophilia is related to Schizophrenia - and as 
>far as I'm aware there is no miracle cure for that either.
>

More's the pity!

>The idea of pre-diagnosis is fascinating: I can't help wondering if we're 
>heading for a "Minority Report" style world in which a Department of 
>Pre-Crime takes people off the streets (or medicates the potentially 
>perverted) with no recourse to appeal their decisions - because no crime 
>exists. You'd just better hope and pray they make damned sure the science is 
>right.
>

I agree... 

>> Coming next, a cure for homos...  Question... if they found
>> one...  Would the queers actually take it or are they too busy being
>> martyrs and too used to the leftist media attention to take the cure and
>> become a normal person?
>
>I've searched and searched for this mythical homosexual propaganda 
>offensive, but the 'leftist' media seems to be ignoring them. Curious 
>though. I thought your view was that homosexuality was a lifestyle choice? 
>Are we to assume that you've backed off from that ridiculous position?

Did you see the new SanFan poster advertising the new gay pride march?  It's a
murder of the Last Supper with Jesus...  Only in this one...  It's queers
dressed in leather and the Host is replaced with sex toys...  And this is what
queers do to try and convince us Christians they are not evil... Yes...
wonderful!  Now if it had been Mohammad... They'd be fatwah...  and... and you
get the picture...

Ray

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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:21:38 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
wrote:

>WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:32:37 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:47:58 +0100, "eugene"
>>>> <eugene@home.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just for Ray
>>>>>
>>>>> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/1411937644_a945d8046f_o.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That sort of thing might get your rocks off, but see me, i'm NORMAL!
>>>> See a doctor if sympthoms continue...
>>>
>>> Ray? Catch yourself on!! You most certainly are NOT normal!! - IMO,
>>> it is you who should be seeing a doctor, nobody else.
>>
>> Did you read the BBC report that child molesters might be findable by
>> a test... and suggesting anti-schizo drug as a cure for child
>> molesting desires...  Coming next, a cure for homos...  Question...
>> if they found one...  Would the queers actually take it or are they
>> too busy being martyrs and too used to the leftist media attention to
>> take the cure and become a normal person?
>>
>> Ray
>
>Ray, have a look at this? Dr Kinsey is well known in this field:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey
>
>It will go some way to prove your ideas are very foolish ones. Had he been 
>alive, I would suggest you go see him. Since he is long dead, I suggest you 
>see a modern equivalent.

What read some sex-"expert"(read pervert)... NO thanks!

Ray

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