Hands up those who remember those probes being launched?

Hands up those who remember one of them reaching Pluto, and thinking it was
amazing?

And it's been 30 years since they were launched...   


Do you remember the buzz you felt when you were told that one of them was going
outside the orbit of Pluto?  

Did you imagine what it might find?

I did!  

Look, pretend it's not me posting, and just say what you think about this mile
marker....

Did you ever expect that you'd be hearing about these ships after all these
years?  Does it please you?

What do you think?

Ray



(BBC report follows)
Voyager probes celebrate 30 years
The US space agency's (Nasa) venerable Voyager mission is celebrating its 30th
anniversary.

Its two probes were launched within weeks of each other in 1977 to make a
detailed study of the outer planets.

The probes were then sent on trajectories that will eventually take them out of
the Solar System and into interstellar space.

Three decades on, they continue to return data from distances more than three
times farther away than Pluto.

Currently, Voyager 1 is farthest away. Launched on 5 September 1977, it is about
15.5 billion km (9.7 billion miles) from the Sun.

	The Voyager mission has opened up our Solar System in a way not possible
before the Space Age
Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist

Voyager 2, which was lofted on 20 August 1977, is about 12.5 billion km (7.8
billion miles) away from the Sun.

They are travelling in the general direction of the centre of our galaxy.
Mission managers believe the probes' power packs should maintain their working
systems until at least 2020.

Although there are no planets in their vicinity to investigate, they are helping
scientists understand the extent of the heliosphere, the huge "bubble" within
which the Sun dominates its region of space.

It contains electrically charged particles that have been blown off the Sun at
high speed and which are now pressing up against matter from other stars.

'Much to learn'

At some point in the next few years, the Voyagers will cross the "official" edge
of the Solar System - the heliopause. Past here, the probes would be in
interstellar space and, by that stage, probably some 40 years on from their
launches.

"The Voyager mission has opened up our Solar System in a way not possible before
the Space Age," said Edward Stone, the Voyager project scientist at the
California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, California.

"It revealed our neighbours in the outer Solar System and showed us how much
there is to learn and how diverse the bodies are that share the Solar System
with our own planet Earth."

Both Voyagers carry gold-plated copper discs containing sounds and images
selected to portray the diversity of life and culture on Earth. Music on the
discs includes Bach and Chuck Berry.

Glossary of terms that describe features of the heliosphere :
Solar wind : Stream of charged particles blown off the Sun and travelling at
"supersonic" speeds
Termination shock : Area where particles from the Sun begin to slow and clash
with matter from deep space
Heliosheath : A vast, turbulent expanse where the solar wind piles up as it
presses outward against interstellar matter
Heliopause : The boundary between the solar wind and the interstellar wind,
where the pressure of both are in balance
Interstellar wind : The gas and dust between the stars
Bow shock : The shock wave caused by the edge our Solar System travelling
through deep space

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/sci/tech/6979696.stm


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VIJER!

"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
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> Hands up those who remember those probes being launched?

"more chuck berry"

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:55:10 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"  wrote:

>
>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
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>> Hands up those who remember those probes being launched?
>
>"more chuck berry"
>
>Sorry (for you) you sad useless bastard, your links are usless and sad...     I'm glad!!! LOL!!!

Ray


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"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
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> >> Hands up those who remember those probes being launched?
> >
> >"more chuck berry"
> >
> >Sorry (for you) you sad useless bastard, your links are usless and sad...
I'm glad!!! LOL!!!
>
> Ray

 even for you that is a weird reply.

are you not familiar withe first star trek movie nor the famous joke?


http://www.metafilter.com/64431/Dear-Earth-Send-More-Chuck-Berry

Ray O'Hara wrote:
> 
> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> news:643ud35ocs1hg5s9stm8vf3l94tnj2upgs@4ax.com...
> 
> VIJER!


Its not "VIJER"

Its V'Ger [V---GER] from 

Star Trek - The Motion Picture or Star Trek 1

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/MOV/001/synopsis.html

And its supposedly VOYAGER VI not VOYAGER I or II

Other than that, its good to see you're awake.

Carry on.

M.

WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
> Hands up those who remember those probes being launched?
>
> Hands up those who remember one of them reaching Pluto, and thinking it was
> amazing?
>
> And it's been 30 years since they were launched...
>
>
> Do you remember the buzz you felt when you were told that one of them was going
> outside the orbit of Pluto?
>
> Did you imagine what it might find?
>
> I did!
>
> Look, pretend it's not me posting, and just say what you think about this mile
> marker....
>
> Did you ever expect that you'd be hearing about these ships after all these
> years?  Does it please you?
>
> What do you think?
>
> Ray
>

Well, Ray, you did ask: Space is curved not linear and that probe re-
enforces the notion that we can see objects in space as moving like
cars on a motorway.

Say, for instance, that I was good at statistics and you asked me:
Where in the universe would you find intelligent life?

I would have to say "the Planet Earth!".  At the centre of our galaxy
there is a black hole - a big heavy thing that warps space and time
around it. Instead of beaming signals at random, we could send a
signal via the black hole which would be slingshot back a long time in
the future, to the Earth.

Now, bear with me on this:  If there is 'intelligent' life on the
Earth then, they would receive the signal and reply - no sense in
sending a signal to the Roman Empire.

If we are to make sense of the universe with our present knowledge, we
have to assume that there is a possibility of sending signals faster
than the speed of light and even backwards in time.

I put both hands up. I'm used to being thrown out of class.

Donal

PS. I've left your sig - we are different: I'm very choosy whom I
offend.



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On Sep 6, 4:19 am, Michael O'Neill  wrote:
> Ray O'Hara wrote:
>
> > "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >news:643ud35ocs1hg5s9stm8vf3l94tnj2upgs@4ax.com...
>
> > VIJER!
>
> Its not "VIJER"
>
> Its V'Ger [V---GER] from
>
> Star Trek - The Motion Picture or Star Trek 1
>
> http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/MOV/001/synopsis.html
>
> And its supposedly VOYAGER VI not VOYAGER I or II
>
> Other than that, its good to see you're awake.
>
> Carry on.

Thank you, Sir.

OFF TOPIC

Have a look at Jerome Burne's book: "Food is Better Medicine than
Drugs". He was a friend of Mike Moorcock. Well, he had a high
tolerance of ambiguity anyway.

Donal
>
> M.

Scríobh soga1893 :
>Say, for instance, that I was good at statistics and you asked me:
>Where in the universe would you find intelligent life?
>
>I would have to say "the Planet Earth!"

The jury is still out on that

-- 
'Donegal:  Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir

On Sep 6, 2:29 pm, Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
> Scríobh soga1893 :
>
> >Say, for instance, that I was good at statistics and you asked me:
> >Where in the universe would you find intelligent life?
>
> >I would have to say "the Planet Earth!"
>
> The jury is still out on that

You optimist.  You must know by now if you are capable of the malice
and you still wait for the jury to tell you - a sort of top/down
ontology.

Why are humans naked? Is it because they walk upright and hide their
female potential? Humans, walked upright before they developed big
brains and when they did, they invented a 'god' in their own likeness!

My best guess is that the human brain is a sex organ- peacock's tail
if you like (no pun intended) and we learned to sing before we learned
to talk.

People who believe in a god and scientists are each doing the same
thing - they are looking in the mirror.
The human brain, in MY vast experience, has a vast capacity for
vanity.

Donal

>
> --
> 'Donegal:  Up Here It's Different'
> © Féachadóir

soga1893 wrote:
> On Sep 6, 2:29 pm, Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
>> Scríobh soga1893 :
>>
>>> Say, for instance, that I was good at statistics and you asked me:
>>> Where in the universe would you find intelligent life?
>>
>>> I would have to say "the Planet Earth!"
>>
>> The jury is still out on that
>
> You optimist.  You must know by now if you are capable of the malice
> and you still wait for the jury to tell you - a sort of top/down
> ontology.
>
> Why are humans naked? Is it because they walk upright and hide their
> female potential? Humans, walked upright before they developed big
> brains and when they did, they invented a 'god' in their own likeness!
>
> My best guess is that the human brain is a sex organ- peacock's tail
> if you like (no pun intended) and we learned to sing before we learned
> to talk.
>
> People who believe in a god and scientists are each doing the same
> thing - they are looking in the mirror.
> The human brain, in MY vast experience, has a vast capacity for
> vanity.
>
> Donal

Yes indeed Donal, et anche molto bullshit!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

soga1893 wrote:
> 
> On Sep 6, 4:19 am, Michael O'Neill  wrote:
> > Ray O'Hara wrote:
> >
> > > "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> > >news:643ud35ocs1hg5s9stm8vf3l94tnj2upgs@4ax.com...
> >
> > > VIJER!
> >
> > Its not "VIJER"
> >
> > Its V'Ger [V---GER] from
> >
> > Star Trek - The Motion Picture or Star Trek 1
> >
> > http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/MOV/001/synopsis.html
> >
> > And its supposedly VOYAGER VI not VOYAGER I or II
> >
> > Other than that, its good to see you're awake.
> >
> > Carry on.
> 
> Thank you, Sir.
> 
> OFF TOPIC
> 
> Have a look at Jerome Burne's book: "Food is Better Medicine than
> Drugs". He was a friend of Mike Moorcock. Well, he had a high
> tolerance of ambiguity anyway.
> 
> Donal
> >
> > M.

Most obliged.

Mr. Moorcock was a favourite of mine and is apparently still alive and
writing today - as for hight tolerances, well, he wrote the book.

M.

On Sep 7, 9:57 am, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote:
> soga1893 wrote:
> > On Sep 6, 2:29 pm, Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
> >> Scríobh soga1893 :
>
> >>> Say, for instance, that I was good at statistics and you asked me:
> >>> Where in the universe would you find intelligent life?
>
> >>> I would have to say "the Planet Earth!"
>
> >> The jury is still out on that
>
> > You optimist.  You must know by now if you are capable of the malice
> > and you still wait for the jury to tell you - a sort of top/down
> > ontology.
>
> > Why are humans naked? Is it because they walk upright and hide their
> > female potential? Humans, walked upright before they developed big
> > brains and when they did, they invented a 'god' in their own likeness!
>
> > My best guess is that the human brain is a sex organ- peacock's tail
> > if you like (no pun intended) and we learned to sing before we learned
> > to talk.
>
> > People who believe in a god and scientists are each doing the same
> > thing - they are looking in the mirror.
> > The human brain, in MY vast experience, has a vast capacity for
> > vanity.
>
> > Donal
>
> Yes indeed Donal, et anche molto bullshit!
>
> --
> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

 I don't have the time to lock horns with you on the matter (sunny
weather, painting)

Donal

soga1893 wrote:
> On Sep 7, 9:57 am, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote:
>> soga1893 wrote:
>>> On Sep 6, 2:29 pm, Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
>>>> Scríobh soga1893 :
>>
>>>>> Say, for instance, that I was good at statistics and you asked me:
>>>>> Where in the universe would you find intelligent life?
>>
>>>>> I would have to say "the Planet Earth!"
>>
>>>> The jury is still out on that
>>
>>> You optimist.  You must know by now if you are capable of the malice
>>> and you still wait for the jury to tell you - a sort of top/down
>>> ontology.
>>
>>> Why are humans naked? Is it because they walk upright and hide their
>>> female potential? Humans, walked upright before they developed big
>>> brains and when they did, they invented a 'god' in their own
>>> likeness!
>>
>>> My best guess is that the human brain is a sex organ- peacock's tail
>>> if you like (no pun intended) and we learned to sing before we
>>> learned to talk.
>>
>>> People who believe in a god and scientists are each doing the same
>>> thing - they are looking in the mirror.
>>> The human brain, in MY vast experience, has a vast capacity for
>>> vanity.
>>
>>> Donal
>>
>> Yes indeed Donal, et anche molto bullshit!
>>
>> --
>> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
>
>  I don't have the time to lock horns with you on the matter (sunny
> weather, painting)

(SIGH!!). I "was" agreeing with you Donal, so no need to lock horns at 
all! - Oh, I see I slipped up. "et"should be "e" with a grave accent, 
Italian being what it is.

Enjoy the sunny weather and the painting. I presume you do mean landscape 
and not house?

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

On Sep 9, 5:15 am, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote:
> soga1893 wrote:
> > On Sep 7, 9:57 am, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote:
> >> soga1893 wrote:
> >>> On Sep 6, 2:29 pm, Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
> >>>> Scríobh soga1893 :
>
> >>>>> Say, for instance, that I was good at statistics and you asked me:
> >>>>> Where in the universe would you find intelligent life?
>
> >>>>> I would have to say "the Planet Earth!"
>
> >>>> The jury is still out on that
>
> >>> You optimist.  You must know by now if you are capable of the malice
> >>> and you still wait for the jury to tell you - a sort of top/down
> >>> ontology.
>
> >>> Why are humans naked? Is it because they walk upright and hide their
> >>> female potential? Humans, walked upright before they developed big
> >>> brains and when they did, they invented a 'god' in their own
> >>> likeness!
>
> >>> My best guess is that the human brain is a sex organ- peacock's tail
> >>> if you like (no pun intended) and we learned to sing before we
> >>> learned to talk.
>
> >>> People who believe in a god and scientists are each doing the same
> >>> thing - they are looking in the mirror.
> >>> The human brain, in MY vast experience, has a vast capacity for
> >>> vanity.
>
> >>> Donal
>
> >> Yes indeed Donal, et anche molto bullshit!
>
> >> --
> >> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
>
> >  I don't have the time to lock horns with you on the matter (sunny
> > weather, painting)
>
> (SIGH!!). I "was" agreeing with you Donal, so no need to lock horns at
> all! - Oh, I see I slipped up. "et"should be "e" with a grave accent,
> Italian being what it is.

I'm running away with my tail between my legs.

>
> Enjoy the sunny weather and the painting. I presume you do mean landscape
> and not house?

The fecking house.

>
> --
> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
>
> --
> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

On Sep 8, 11:41 am, Michael O'Neill  wrote:
> soga1893 wrote:
>
> > On Sep 6, 4:19 am, Michael O'Neill  wrote:
> > > Ray O'Hara wrote:
>
> > > > "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> > > >news:643ud35ocs1hg5s9stm8vf3l94tnj2upgs@4ax.com...
>
> > > > VIJER!
>
> > > Its not "VIJER"
>
> > > Its V'Ger [V---GER] from
>
> > > Star Trek - The Motion Picture or Star Trek 1
>
> > >http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/MOV/001/synopsis.html
>
> > > And its supposedly VOYAGER VI not VOYAGER I or II
>
> > > Other than that, its good to see you're awake.
>
> > > Carry on.
>
> > Thank you, Sir.
>
> > OFF TOPIC
>
> > Have a look at Jerome Burne's book: "Food is Better Medicine than
> > Drugs". He was a friend of Mike Moorcock. Well, he had a high
> > tolerance of ambiguity anyway.
>
> > Donal
>
> > > M.
>
> Most obliged.
>
> Mr. Moorcock was a favourite of mine and is apparently still alive and
> writing today - as for hight tolerances, well, he wrote the book.
>
> M.

Jon Trux came into my office (petty cash department) and invited me to
a 'gig'.

"What's a gig?" I asked

"Well, it's a sort of a party"

I arrived with the address on the piece of paper and found myself in a
long queue. Some fucking party? Then a guy, whom I didn't know, came
down the queue checking people and picked out my wife and I and told
me to come with him. I had joined the wrong queue. Stupid me.

We went down to the flat with relief. It was a very big flat and the
guys who owned it were putting on make up. They used to sweep the
stairs where I worked and I wondered how they could afford it. Then I
saw that the floor was concrete and their flat was right next to  the
Wembly Football Stadium and the noise was terrible. I understood. Lots
of dope, as expected.

Jon, that sensitive and couragous man (it was my job to evaluate such
things), came over to us and guided us to a door and we went in. There
was a huge roar of approval and we were in Wembly Stadium and there
was a stage and the floor sweepers came out on it and started to play.
Jon was hitting a bottle with stick into a mike and the guy sitting on
the grass next to me was high on acid and every molocule of his being
was at one with the universe. Hawkwind entered my soul.

After that, nothing surprised me, and when, back at work, Jon
introduced me to 'Mike', then Mike Moocock, I was only interested in
the insolent way he looked at me: Like I was an object.

Years later, when I read 'Dancers at the End of Time', I recognised
Cornelius. Love is the great personality robbery.

Donal

On Sep 9, 5:15 am, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote:
> soga1893 wrote:
> > On Sep 7, 9:57 am, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote:
> >> soga1893 wrote:
> >>> On Sep 6, 2:29 pm, Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
> >>>> Scríobh soga1893 :
>
> >>>>> Say, for instance, that I was good at statistics and you asked me:
> >>>>> Where in the universe would you find intelligent life?
>
> >>>>> I would have to say "the Planet Earth!"
>
> >>>> The jury is still out on that
>
> >>> You optimist.  You must know by now if you are capable of the malice
> >>> and you still wait for the jury to tell you - a sort of top/down
> >>> ontology.
>
> >>> Why are humans naked? Is it because they walk upright and hide their
> >>> female potential? Humans, walked upright before they developed big
> >>> brains and when they did, they invented a 'god' in their own
> >>> likeness!
>
> >>> My best guess is that the human brain is a sex organ- peacock's tail
> >>> if you like (no pun intended) and we learned to sing before we
> >>> learned to talk.
>
> >>> People who believe in a god and scientists are each doing the same
> >>> thing - they are looking in the mirror.
> >>> The human brain, in MY vast experience, has a vast capacity for
> >>> vanity.
>
> >>> Donal
>
> >> Yes indeed Donal, et anche molto bullshit!
>
> >> --
> >> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
>
> >  I don't have the time to lock horns with you on the matter (sunny
> > weather, painting)
>
> (SIGH!!). I "was" agreeing with you Donal, so no need to lock horns at
> all! - Oh, I see I slipped up. "et"should be "e" with a grave accent,
> Italian being what it is.
>
> Enjoy the sunny weather and the painting. I presume you do mean landscape
> and not house?
>
> --
> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
>
> --
> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

There was a poem by Milton. He was a Republican - that should quieten
the mob - and a line of his poem about the happy man; and the gifted
and generous lassie in the castle:

"The cynasure of the neighbouring eyes"

'Kyna Shura' or 'dog's tail' in the Greek refers to a constellation of
stars in the sky. The official story goes that sailors used to be
guided by it. I don't believe that. When a bitch is on heat, her tail
goes straight up. Kyna Shura.

Believe it or not.

DONAL

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:44:19 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"  wrote:

>
>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>news:1haud3hvf9m0tfr70nfi22rnmf1erbmrq6@4ax.com...
>> >> Hands up those who remember those probes being launched?
>> >
>> >"more chuck berry"
>> >
>> >Sorry (for you) you sad useless bastard, your links are usless and sad...
>I'm glad!!! LOL!!!
>>
>> Ray
>
> even for you that is a weird reply.
>
>are you not familiar withe first star trek movie nor the famous joke?
>
>
>http://www.metafilter.com/64431/Dear-Earth-Send-More-Chuck-Berry
>

The joke I might have missed, but the link you provided me gives me no clue,
could you be a bit more speciffic?

Ray

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