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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT,    group: uk.current-events.n-ireland        back       
Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
a film.

It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve McQueen, who
will co-write and direct the film.

He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international contemporary
resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.

Sands, 27, died in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 1981, shortly after
being elected an MP.

Political protest

McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
warfare was becoming more familiar.

"It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource for
protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.

"What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, the
ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.

"Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on what it
is like to die for a cause."

The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.

Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status for
republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to die.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/entertainment/6660999.stm

This is good news!!!  If the movie remains true the story that is!  And that
remains to be seen when the film comes out!


Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site for 3
days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No...  One
was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The other...
<sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in the past
in Ireland damn well remembers these things?  

I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here were a
damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on the
run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world to
see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right! 

I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" or
"republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They do not
seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego gratification
then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 occupied
counties of Ireland....

Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly! 

Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" has
become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting is
little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not to me,
Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!

Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican Hero!
Bobby Sands to launch this critical post? 

Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And Nationalists!
To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and to
remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to co-operate
and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!

So one final appeal!  

Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know it's an
old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you don't
get it by now...  You simply never will!

Ray
(Irish and Republican and true - how about you)

-- 
****************************************************************************************
"We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have been to lose;
to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.

fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he, just 
laying there thinking of cream cakes

>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 
> 1981, shortly after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.

It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.

Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their 
weapons.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>

>
> This is good news!!!

Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?

>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?

They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!

why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?

Because you think you are so great
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!
>
> Ray
> (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)

Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> -- 
> ****************************************************************************************
> "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have 
> been to lose;
> to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a 
> tradition to
> the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, 
> May2,1916.
> ****************************************************************************************
> Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> ****************************************************************************************
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.

we will never forget  jimmy sands
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>
>> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
>> McQueen, who
>> will co-write and direct the film.
>
>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>mul
>
>

How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)

Ray

-- 
****************************************************************************************
"We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have been to lose;
to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
****************************************************************************************
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****************************************************************************************
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:10:25 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
co-write and direct the film.
>>
>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>mul
> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>
> Ray

never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.
>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, died in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 1981, shortly 
> after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/entertainment/6660999.stm
>
> This is good news!!!  If the movie remains true the story that is!  And 
> that
> remains to be seen when the film comes out!
>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!

Your no true Republican, that IS for sure. As for Bobby Sands, he was a 
murderous wee shite totally corrupted by Republican propaganda and 
brainwashed into committing suicide for an out of date ethos, as were his 
compatriots. The RC church did it's best to stop his idiotic actions and 
failed to do so due to the Republican Movement putting undue pressure on a 
very sick man.
The ONLY racism and terror practised to real effect was by the IRA and the 
Republican Movement.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:22:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>co-write and direct the film.
>>>
>>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>>mul
>> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>>
>> Ray
>
>never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
>mul
>

ONe day... me and Telmey will meet you....  you've never been to a sci-con?

Ray
(if not Tel, at least me and you will meet - Limerick men afterall)

-- 
****************************************************************************************
"We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have been to lose;
to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
****************************************************************************************
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:26:36 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...

> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......

They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
step except you.
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100   author:   Ex_OWM

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
 wrote:

>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>a film.

Again?

http://filmshi.com/db/content/view/12/43/

David H

-- 
abend
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT   author:   (David H)

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...

<cut>

>why not, we like winding the village idiot up

The irony of it all...

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:41:09 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT, swelter@btinternet.com (David H)
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
> wrote:
>
>>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>>a film.
>
>Again?

Yes...from the perspective of non-Republicans...I will refrain from
getting terribly excited about it.

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:42:23 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
wrote:

>
>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
>> or
>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>
>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
>step except you.
>

I'm a traditional Republican....  

Ray

-- 
****************************************************************************************
"We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have been to lose;
to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:59:05 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>> "crop"
>>> or
>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>
>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>in
>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>of
>>step except you.
>>
>
> I'm a traditional Republican....
>
> Ray

Oh, a wanker, you mean!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>>> "crop"
>>>> or
>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>
>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>>in
>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>>of
>>>step except you.
>>>
>>
>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>
>> Ray
>
>Oh, a wanker, you mean!

Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Ray

-- 
****************************************************************************************
"We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have been to lose;
to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
****************************************************************************************
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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:58:52 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:rddb53pu5hur1qpong0cqo7pjpk02cb645@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>>>> "crop"
>>>>> or
>>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>>
>>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of 
>>>>republican/nationalist -
>>>>in
>>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out
>>>>of
>>>>step except you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>>Oh, a wanker, you mean!
>
> Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Not really, since I am NOT a Unionist. As per usual, your facts are quite 
wrong. Wanker!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:15:19 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> > made into
> > a film.
>
> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
just
> laying there thinking of cream cakes

always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
pathetic..
>
> >
> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> > McQueen, who
> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >
> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> > contemporary
> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >
> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> > 1981, shortly after
> > being elected an MP.
> >
> > Political protest
> >
> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
political
> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >
> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource
> > for
> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >
> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
> > the
> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions

Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >
> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
> > what it
> > is like to die for a cause."
> >
> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
> weapons.

The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >
> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
> > for
> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
> > die.
> >
>
> >
> > This is good news!!!
>
> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>
> >
> >
> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
site
> > for 3
> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
No...
> > One
> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
> > other...
> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
> > the past
> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol

Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
"Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >
> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here
> > were a
> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
on
> > the
> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world
> > to
> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >
> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
"crop"
> > or
> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They
> > do not
> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> > gratification
> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
> > occupied
> > counties of Ireland....
> >
> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >
> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
"side"
> > has
> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting
> > is
> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
Not
> > to me,
> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >
> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
Republican
> > Hero!
> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because you think you are so great
> >
> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> > Nationalists!
> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
and
> > to
> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> > co-operate
> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
Unionist
> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >
> > So one final appeal!
> >
> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know
> > it's an
> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
you
> > don't
> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >
> > Ray
> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>
> Well get back to Irealnd then

It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

> >
> > --
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have
> > been to lose;
> > to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a
> > tradition to
> > the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder,
> > May2,1916.
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> >
****************************************************************************
************
>
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:52:46 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message
news:gvrt4351pnru3o78195ino5ikasjoook4e@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
>  wrote:
>
> >"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
> <cut>
>
> >why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> The irony of it all...
>
> CB

Every time I see a post from him, the village peoples YMCA tune starts up in
my head...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:53:44 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On May 17, 4:02 pm, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" 
wrote:
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
> a film.

Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
date: 24 May 2007 17:45:51 -0700   author:   Sidheseeker

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.

fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he, just 
laying there thinking of cream cakes

>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 
> 1981, shortly after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.

It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.

Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their 
weapons.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>

>
> This is good news!!!

Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?

>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?

They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!

why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?

Because you think you are so great
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!
>
> Ray
> (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)

Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> -- 
> ****************************************************************************************
> "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have 
> been to lose;
> to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a 
> tradition to
> the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, 
> May2,1916.
> ****************************************************************************************
> Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> ****************************************************************************************
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.

we will never forget  jimmy sands
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>
>> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
>> McQueen, who
>> will co-write and direct the film.
>
>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>mul
>
>

How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)

Ray

-- 
****************************************************************************************
"We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have been to lose;
to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
****************************************************************************************
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:10:25 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
co-write and direct the film.
>>
>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>mul
> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>
> Ray

never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.
>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, died in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 1981, shortly 
> after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/entertainment/6660999.stm
>
> This is good news!!!  If the movie remains true the story that is!  And 
> that
> remains to be seen when the film comes out!
>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!

Your no true Republican, that IS for sure. As for Bobby Sands, he was a 
murderous wee shite totally corrupted by Republican propaganda and 
brainwashed into committing suicide for an out of date ethos, as were his 
compatriots. The RC church did it's best to stop his idiotic actions and 
failed to do so due to the Republican Movement putting undue pressure on a 
very sick man.
The ONLY racism and terror practised to real effect was by the IRA and the 
Republican Movement.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:22:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>co-write and direct the film.
>>>
>>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>>mul
>> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>>
>> Ray
>
>never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
>mul
>

ONe day... me and Telmey will meet you....  you've never been to a sci-con?

Ray
(if not Tel, at least me and you will meet - Limerick men afterall)

-- 
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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:26:36 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...

> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......

They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
step except you.
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100   author:   Ex_OWM

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
 wrote:

>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>a film.

Again?

http://filmshi.com/db/content/view/12/43/

David H

-- 
abend
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT   author:   (David H)

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...

<cut>

>why not, we like winding the village idiot up

The irony of it all...

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:41:09 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT, swelter@btinternet.com (David H)
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
> wrote:
>
>>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>>a film.
>
>Again?

Yes...from the perspective of non-Republicans...I will refrain from
getting terribly excited about it.

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:42:23 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
wrote:

>
>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
>> or
>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>
>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
>step except you.
>

I'm a traditional Republican....  

Ray

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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:59:05 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>> "crop"
>>> or
>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>
>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>in
>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>of
>>step except you.
>>
>
> I'm a traditional Republican....
>
> Ray

Oh, a wanker, you mean!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>>> "crop"
>>>> or
>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>
>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>>in
>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>>of
>>>step except you.
>>>
>>
>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>
>> Ray
>
>Oh, a wanker, you mean!

Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Ray

-- 
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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:58:52 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:rddb53pu5hur1qpong0cqo7pjpk02cb645@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>>>> "crop"
>>>>> or
>>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>>
>>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of 
>>>>republican/nationalist -
>>>>in
>>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out
>>>>of
>>>>step except you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>>Oh, a wanker, you mean!
>
> Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Not really, since I am NOT a Unionist. As per usual, your facts are quite 
wrong. Wanker!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:15:19 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> > made into
> > a film.
>
> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
just
> laying there thinking of cream cakes

always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
pathetic..
>
> >
> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> > McQueen, who
> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >
> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> > contemporary
> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >
> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> > 1981, shortly after
> > being elected an MP.
> >
> > Political protest
> >
> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
political
> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >
> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource
> > for
> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >
> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
> > the
> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions

Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >
> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
> > what it
> > is like to die for a cause."
> >
> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
> weapons.

The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >
> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
> > for
> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
> > die.
> >
>
> >
> > This is good news!!!
>
> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>
> >
> >
> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
site
> > for 3
> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
No...
> > One
> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
> > other...
> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
> > the past
> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol

Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
"Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >
> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here
> > were a
> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
on
> > the
> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world
> > to
> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >
> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
"crop"
> > or
> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They
> > do not
> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> > gratification
> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
> > occupied
> > counties of Ireland....
> >
> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >
> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
"side"
> > has
> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting
> > is
> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
Not
> > to me,
> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >
> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
Republican
> > Hero!
> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because you think you are so great
> >
> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> > Nationalists!
> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
and
> > to
> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> > co-operate
> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
Unionist
> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >
> > So one final appeal!
> >
> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know
> > it's an
> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
you
> > don't
> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >
> > Ray
> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>
> Well get back to Irealnd then

It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

> >
> > --
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have
> > been to lose;
> > to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a
> > tradition to
> > the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder,
> > May2,1916.
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> >
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************
>
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:52:46 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message
news:gvrt4351pnru3o78195ino5ikasjoook4e@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
>  wrote:
>
> >"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
> <cut>
>
> >why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> The irony of it all...
>
> CB

Every time I see a post from him, the village peoples YMCA tune starts up in
my head...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:53:44 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On May 17, 4:02 pm, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" 
wrote:
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
> a film.

Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
date: 24 May 2007 17:45:51 -0700   author:   Sidheseeker

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.

fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he, just 
laying there thinking of cream cakes

>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 
> 1981, shortly after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.

It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.

Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their 
weapons.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>

>
> This is good news!!!

Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?

>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?

They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!

why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?

Because you think you are so great
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!
>
> Ray
> (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)

Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> -- 
> ****************************************************************************************
> "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have 
> been to lose;
> to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a 
> tradition to
> the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, 
> May2,1916.
> ****************************************************************************************
> Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> ****************************************************************************************
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.

we will never forget  jimmy sands
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>
>> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
>> McQueen, who
>> will co-write and direct the film.
>
>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>mul
>
>

How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)

Ray

-- 
****************************************************************************************
"We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have been to lose;
to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
****************************************************************************************
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:10:25 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
co-write and direct the film.
>>
>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>mul
> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>
> Ray

never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.
>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, died in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 1981, shortly 
> after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/entertainment/6660999.stm
>
> This is good news!!!  If the movie remains true the story that is!  And 
> that
> remains to be seen when the film comes out!
>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!

Your no true Republican, that IS for sure. As for Bobby Sands, he was a 
murderous wee shite totally corrupted by Republican propaganda and 
brainwashed into committing suicide for an out of date ethos, as were his 
compatriots. The RC church did it's best to stop his idiotic actions and 
failed to do so due to the Republican Movement putting undue pressure on a 
very sick man.
The ONLY racism and terror practised to real effect was by the IRA and the 
Republican Movement.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:22:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>co-write and direct the film.
>>>
>>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>>mul
>> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>>
>> Ray
>
>never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
>mul
>

ONe day... me and Telmey will meet you....  you've never been to a sci-con?

Ray
(if not Tel, at least me and you will meet - Limerick men afterall)

-- 
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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:26:36 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...

> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......

They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
step except you.
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100   author:   Ex_OWM

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
 wrote:

>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>a film.

Again?

http://filmshi.com/db/content/view/12/43/

David H

-- 
abend
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT   author:   (David H)

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...

<cut>

>why not, we like winding the village idiot up

The irony of it all...

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:41:09 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT, swelter@btinternet.com (David H)
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
> wrote:
>
>>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>>a film.
>
>Again?

Yes...from the perspective of non-Republicans...I will refrain from
getting terribly excited about it.

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:42:23 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
wrote:

>
>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
>> or
>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>
>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
>step except you.
>

I'm a traditional Republican....  

Ray

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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:59:05 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>> "crop"
>>> or
>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>
>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>in
>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>of
>>step except you.
>>
>
> I'm a traditional Republican....
>
> Ray

Oh, a wanker, you mean!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>>> "crop"
>>>> or
>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>
>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>>in
>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>>of
>>>step except you.
>>>
>>
>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>
>> Ray
>
>Oh, a wanker, you mean!

Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Ray

-- 
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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:58:52 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:rddb53pu5hur1qpong0cqo7pjpk02cb645@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>>>> "crop"
>>>>> or
>>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>>
>>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of 
>>>>republican/nationalist -
>>>>in
>>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out
>>>>of
>>>>step except you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>>Oh, a wanker, you mean!
>
> Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Not really, since I am NOT a Unionist. As per usual, your facts are quite 
wrong. Wanker!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:15:19 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> > made into
> > a film.
>
> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
just
> laying there thinking of cream cakes

always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
pathetic..
>
> >
> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> > McQueen, who
> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >
> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> > contemporary
> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >
> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> > 1981, shortly after
> > being elected an MP.
> >
> > Political protest
> >
> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
political
> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >
> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource
> > for
> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >
> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
> > the
> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions

Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >
> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
> > what it
> > is like to die for a cause."
> >
> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
> weapons.

The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >
> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
> > for
> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
> > die.
> >
>
> >
> > This is good news!!!
>
> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>
> >
> >
> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
site
> > for 3
> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
No...
> > One
> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
> > other...
> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
> > the past
> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol

Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
"Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >
> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here
> > were a
> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
on
> > the
> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world
> > to
> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >
> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
"crop"
> > or
> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They
> > do not
> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> > gratification
> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
> > occupied
> > counties of Ireland....
> >
> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >
> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
"side"
> > has
> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting
> > is
> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
Not
> > to me,
> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >
> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
Republican
> > Hero!
> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because you think you are so great
> >
> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> > Nationalists!
> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
and
> > to
> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> > co-operate
> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
Unionist
> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >
> > So one final appeal!
> >
> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know
> > it's an
> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
you
> > don't
> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >
> > Ray
> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>
> Well get back to Irealnd then

It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

> >
> > --
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have
> > been to lose;
> > to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a
> > tradition to
> > the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder,
> > May2,1916.
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> >
****************************************************************************
************
>
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:52:46 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message
news:gvrt4351pnru3o78195ino5ikasjoook4e@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
>  wrote:
>
> >"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
> <cut>
>
> >why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> The irony of it all...
>
> CB

Every time I see a post from him, the village peoples YMCA tune starts up in
my head...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:53:44 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On May 17, 4:02 pm, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" 
wrote:
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
> a film.

Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
date: 24 May 2007 17:45:51 -0700   author:   Sidheseeker

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>
> "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
>> > made into
>> > a film.
>>
>> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> just
>> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>
> always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
> pathetic..
>>
>> >
>> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> > McQueen, who
>> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >
>> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> > contemporary
>> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >
>> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> > 1981, shortly after
>> > being elected an MP.
>> >
>> > Political protest
>> >
>> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> political
>> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >
>> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last 
>> > resource
>> > for
>> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >
>> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
>> > the
>> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>
>> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >
>> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
>> > what it
>> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >
>> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>
>> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
>> weapons.
>
> The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >
>> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
>> > for
>> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
>> > die.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > This is good news!!!
>>
>> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> site
>> > for 3
>> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> No...
>> > One
>> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
>> > other...
>> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
>> > the past
>> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>
>> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >
>> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on 
>> > here
>> > were a
>> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
> on
>> > the
>> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole 
>> > world
>> > to
>> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >
>> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> "crop"
>> > or
>> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so...... 
>> > They
>> > do not
>> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> > gratification
>> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
>> > occupied
>> > counties of Ireland....
>> >
>> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >
>> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> "side"
>> > has
>> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for 
>> > posting
>> > is
>> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> Not
>> > to me,
>> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>
>> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >
>> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> Republican
>> > Hero!
>> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>
>> Because you think you are so great
>> >
>> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> > Nationalists!
>> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
> and
>> > to
>> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> > co-operate
>> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> Unionist
>> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >
>> > So one final appeal!
>> >
>> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I 
>> > know
>> > it's an
>> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
> you
>> > don't
>> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >
>> > Ray
>> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>
>> Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?

ROTFL!!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:29:55 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Sidheseeker"  wrote in message
news:1180053951.051583.286660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
made into
> > a film.

> Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
> Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
> as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..

I'd expect the film to begin with a montage of all the things that led to
the hunger strikers being imprisoned, and continue with the killings that
the IRA carried out while the strikes were going on. Do you think that will
happen, or will it be a Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil
rights?


--

J/

SOTW: "A Fierce Pancake" - Stump

http://www.azcars.eu/wdfdi/index.htm
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:13:37 +0100   author:   Westprog

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.

fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he, just 
laying there thinking of cream cakes

>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 
> 1981, shortly after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.

It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.

Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their 
weapons.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>

>
> This is good news!!!

Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?

>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?

They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!

why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?

Because you think you are so great
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!
>
> Ray
> (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)

Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> -- 
> ****************************************************************************************
> "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have 
> been to lose;
> to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a 
> tradition to
> the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, 
> May2,1916.
> ****************************************************************************************
> Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> ****************************************************************************************
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.

we will never forget  jimmy sands
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>
>> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
>> McQueen, who
>> will co-write and direct the film.
>
>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>mul
>
>

How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)

Ray

-- 
****************************************************************************************
"We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have been to lose;
to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
****************************************************************************************
Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
****************************************************************************************
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:10:25 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
co-write and direct the film.
>>
>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>mul
> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>
> Ray

never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.
>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, died in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 1981, shortly 
> after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/entertainment/6660999.stm
>
> This is good news!!!  If the movie remains true the story that is!  And 
> that
> remains to be seen when the film comes out!
>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!

Your no true Republican, that IS for sure. As for Bobby Sands, he was a 
murderous wee shite totally corrupted by Republican propaganda and 
brainwashed into committing suicide for an out of date ethos, as were his 
compatriots. The RC church did it's best to stop his idiotic actions and 
failed to do so due to the Republican Movement putting undue pressure on a 
very sick man.
The ONLY racism and terror practised to real effect was by the IRA and the 
Republican Movement.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:22:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>co-write and direct the film.
>>>
>>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>>mul
>> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>>
>> Ray
>
>never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
>mul
>

ONe day... me and Telmey will meet you....  you've never been to a sci-con?

Ray
(if not Tel, at least me and you will meet - Limerick men afterall)

-- 
****************************************************************************************
"We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have been to lose;
to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
****************************************************************************************
Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
****************************************************************************************
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:26:36 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...

> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......

They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
step except you.
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100   author:   Ex_OWM

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
 wrote:

>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>a film.

Again?

http://filmshi.com/db/content/view/12/43/

David H

-- 
abend
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT   author:   (David H)

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
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<cut>

>why not, we like winding the village idiot up

The irony of it all...

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:41:09 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT, swelter@btinternet.com (David H)
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
> wrote:
>
>>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>>a film.
>
>Again?

Yes...from the perspective of non-Republicans...I will refrain from
getting terribly excited about it.

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:42:23 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
wrote:

>
>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
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>
>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
>> or
>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>
>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
>step except you.
>

I'm a traditional Republican....  

Ray

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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:59:05 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>> "crop"
>>> or
>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>
>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>in
>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>of
>>step except you.
>>
>
> I'm a traditional Republican....
>
> Ray

Oh, a wanker, you mean!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>>> "crop"
>>>> or
>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>
>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>>in
>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>>of
>>>step except you.
>>>
>>
>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>
>> Ray
>
>Oh, a wanker, you mean!

Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Ray

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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:58:52 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>>>> "crop"
>>>>> or
>>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>>
>>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of 
>>>>republican/nationalist -
>>>>in
>>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out
>>>>of
>>>>step except you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>>Oh, a wanker, you mean!
>
> Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Not really, since I am NOT a Unionist. As per usual, your facts are quite 
wrong. Wanker!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:15:19 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
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>
> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> > made into
> > a film.
>
> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
just
> laying there thinking of cream cakes

always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
pathetic..
>
> >
> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> > McQueen, who
> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >
> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> > contemporary
> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >
> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> > 1981, shortly after
> > being elected an MP.
> >
> > Political protest
> >
> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
political
> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >
> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource
> > for
> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >
> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
> > the
> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions

Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >
> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
> > what it
> > is like to die for a cause."
> >
> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
> weapons.

The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >
> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
> > for
> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
> > die.
> >
>
> >
> > This is good news!!!
>
> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>
> >
> >
> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
site
> > for 3
> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
No...
> > One
> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
> > other...
> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
> > the past
> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol

Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
"Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >
> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here
> > were a
> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
on
> > the
> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world
> > to
> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >
> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
"crop"
> > or
> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They
> > do not
> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> > gratification
> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
> > occupied
> > counties of Ireland....
> >
> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >
> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
"side"
> > has
> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting
> > is
> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
Not
> > to me,
> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >
> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
Republican
> > Hero!
> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because you think you are so great
> >
> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> > Nationalists!
> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
and
> > to
> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> > co-operate
> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
Unionist
> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >
> > So one final appeal!
> >
> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know
> > it's an
> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
you
> > don't
> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >
> > Ray
> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>
> Well get back to Irealnd then

It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

> >
> > --
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have
> > been to lose;
> > to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a
> > tradition to
> > the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder,
> > May2,1916.
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> >
****************************************************************************
************
>
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:52:46 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
>  wrote:
>
> >"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
> <cut>
>
> >why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> The irony of it all...
>
> CB

Every time I see a post from him, the village peoples YMCA tune starts up in
my head...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:53:44 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On May 17, 4:02 pm, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" 
wrote:
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
> a film.

Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
date: 24 May 2007 17:45:51 -0700   author:   Sidheseeker

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
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>
> "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
>> > made into
>> > a film.
>>
>> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> just
>> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>
> always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
> pathetic..
>>
>> >
>> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> > McQueen, who
>> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >
>> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> > contemporary
>> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >
>> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> > 1981, shortly after
>> > being elected an MP.
>> >
>> > Political protest
>> >
>> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> political
>> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >
>> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last 
>> > resource
>> > for
>> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >
>> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
>> > the
>> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>
>> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >
>> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
>> > what it
>> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >
>> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>
>> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
>> weapons.
>
> The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >
>> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
>> > for
>> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
>> > die.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > This is good news!!!
>>
>> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> site
>> > for 3
>> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> No...
>> > One
>> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
>> > other...
>> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
>> > the past
>> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>
>> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >
>> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on 
>> > here
>> > were a
>> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
> on
>> > the
>> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole 
>> > world
>> > to
>> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >
>> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> "crop"
>> > or
>> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so...... 
>> > They
>> > do not
>> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> > gratification
>> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
>> > occupied
>> > counties of Ireland....
>> >
>> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >
>> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> "side"
>> > has
>> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for 
>> > posting
>> > is
>> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> Not
>> > to me,
>> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>
>> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >
>> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> Republican
>> > Hero!
>> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>
>> Because you think you are so great
>> >
>> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> > Nationalists!
>> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
> and
>> > to
>> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> > co-operate
>> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> Unionist
>> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >
>> > So one final appeal!
>> >
>> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I 
>> > know
>> > it's an
>> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
> you
>> > don't
>> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >
>> > Ray
>> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>
>> Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?

ROTFL!!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:29:55 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Sidheseeker"  wrote in message
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> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
made into
> > a film.

> Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
> Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
> as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..

I'd expect the film to begin with a montage of all the things that led to
the hunger strikers being imprisoned, and continue with the killings that
the IRA carried out while the strikes were going on. Do you think that will
happen, or will it be a Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil
rights?


--

J/

SOTW: "A Fierce Pancake" - Stump

http://www.azcars.eu/wdfdi/index.htm
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:13:37 +0100   author:   Westprog

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Westprog"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Sidheseeker"  wrote in message
> news:1180053951.051583.286660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> made into
>> > a film.
>
>> Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
>> Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
>> as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
>
> I'd expect the film to begin with a montage of all the things that led to
> the hunger strikers being imprisoned, and continue with the killings that
> the IRA carried out while the strikes were going on. Do you think that 
> will
> happen, or will it be a Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil
> rights?
>

Hee! Hee! Such a silly question! LOL!

Of  "course" it will be the "Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil 
rights" option! Also, a "lets blame it all on Maggie Thatcher" option. 
Completely ignoring the fact that as the British Prime Minister, she could 
never allow herself to give in to blackmail.

As I said before, Sands was a Republican, and therefore a complete wanker.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:06:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
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> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> >
> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >>
> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
be
> >> > made into
> >> > a film.
> >>
> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> > just
> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
> >
> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
fucking
> > pathetic..
> >>
> >> >
> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> >> > McQueen, who
> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >> >
> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> >> > contemporary
> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >> >
> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> >> > 1981, shortly after
> >> > being elected an MP.
> >> >
> >> > Political protest
> >> >
> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> > political
> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >> >
> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
> >> > resource
> >> > for
> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >> >
> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
archive,
> >> > the
> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
> >>
> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
> >
> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >> >
> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
on
> >> > what it
> >> > is like to die for a cause."
> >> >
> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
> >>
> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
their
> >> weapons.
> >
> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >> >
> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
status
> >> > for
> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
to
> >> > die.
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > This is good news!!!
> >>
> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> > site
> >> > for 3
> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> > No...
> >> > One
> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
The
> >> > other...
> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots
in
> >> > the past
> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
> >>
> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
> >
> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >> >
> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
> >> > here
> >> > were a
> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
Loyalism
> > on
> >> > the
> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
> >> > world
> >> > to
> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >> >
> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> > "crop"
> >> > or
> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
> >> > They
> >> > do not
> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> >> > gratification
> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the
6
> >> > occupied
> >> > counties of Ireland....
> >> >
> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >> >
> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> > "side"
> >> > has
> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
> >> > posting
> >> > is
> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> > Not
> >> > to me,
> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
> >>
> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >> >
> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> > Republican
> >> > Hero!
> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
> >>
> >> Because you think you are so great
> >> >
> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> >> > Nationalists!
> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
counties
> > and
> >> > to
> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> >> > co-operate
> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> > Unionist
> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >> >
> >> > So one final appeal!
> >> >
> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
> >> > know
> >> > it's an
> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
If
> > you
> >> > don't
> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >> >
> >> > Ray
> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
> >>
> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
> >
> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
> >
> >
> >
> > James
> > aka
> > Commander Hughes
> >
> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>
> ROTFL!!

Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if you're
asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.

However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in political
terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.

Hope I've cleared this up for you.



James
aka
Commander Hughes

>
> --
> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
 wrote:

>
>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
>news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
>> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>> >
>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> >>
>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>be
>> >> > made into
>> >> > a film.
>> >>
>> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
>> > just
>> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>> >
>> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
>fucking
>> > pathetic..
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> >> > McQueen, who
>> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >> >
>> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> >> > contemporary
>> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> >> > 1981, shortly after
>> >> > being elected an MP.
>> >> >
>> >> > Political protest
>> >> >
>> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
>> > political
>> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >> >
>> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
>> >> > resource
>> >> > for
>> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >> >
>> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
>archive,
>> >> > the
>> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>> >>
>> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>> >
>> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
>on
>> >> > what it
>> >> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >> >
>> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>> >>
>> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
>their
>> >> weapons.
>> >
>> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >> >
>> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
>status
>> >> > for
>> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
>to
>> >> > die.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > This is good news!!!
>> >>
>> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
>> > site
>> >> > for 3
>> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
>> > No...
>> >> > One
>> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
>The
>> >> > other...
>> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots
>in
>> >> > the past
>> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>> >>
>> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>> >
>> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
>> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >> >
>> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
>> >> > here
>> >> > were a
>> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
>Loyalism
>> > on
>> >> > the
>> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
>> >> > world
>> >> > to
>> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >> >
>> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>> > "crop"
>> >> > or
>> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>> >> > They
>> >> > do not
>> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> >> > gratification
>> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the
>6
>> >> > occupied
>> >> > counties of Ireland....
>> >> >
>> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >> >
>> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
>> > "side"
>> >> > has
>> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
>> >> > posting
>> >> > is
>> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
>> > Not
>> >> > to me,
>> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>> >>
>> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >> >
>> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
>> > Republican
>> >> > Hero!
>> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>> >>
>> >> Because you think you are so great
>> >> >
>> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> >> > Nationalists!
>> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
>counties
>> > and
>> >> > to
>> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> >> > co-operate
>> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
>> > Unionist
>> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >> >
>> >> > So one final appeal!
>> >> >
>> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
>> >> > know
>> >> > it's an
>> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
>If
>> > you
>> >> > don't
>> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >> >
>> >> > Ray
>> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>> >>
>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>> >
>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > James
>> > aka
>> > Commander Hughes
>> >
>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>
>> ROTFL!!
>
>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if you're
>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.
>
>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in political
>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.
>
>Hope I've cleared this up for you.

Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
support his Unionist view.

There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.

CB

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date: Sat, 26 May 2007 06:47:08 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.

fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he, just 
laying there thinking of cream cakes

>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 
> 1981, shortly after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.

It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.

Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their 
weapons.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>

>
> This is good news!!!

Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?

>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?

They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!

why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?

Because you think you are so great
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!
>
> Ray
> (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)

Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> -- 
> ****************************************************************************************
> "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have 
> been to lose;
> to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a 
> tradition to
> the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, 
> May2,1916.
> ****************************************************************************************
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.

we will never forget  jimmy sands
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>
>> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
>> McQueen, who
>> will co-write and direct the film.
>
>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>mul
>
>

How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)

Ray

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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:10:25 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
co-write and direct the film.
>>
>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>mul
> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>
> Ray

never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.
>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, died in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 1981, shortly 
> after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/entertainment/6660999.stm
>
> This is good news!!!  If the movie remains true the story that is!  And 
> that
> remains to be seen when the film comes out!
>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!

Your no true Republican, that IS for sure. As for Bobby Sands, he was a 
murderous wee shite totally corrupted by Republican propaganda and 
brainwashed into committing suicide for an out of date ethos, as were his 
compatriots. The RC church did it's best to stop his idiotic actions and 
failed to do so due to the Republican Movement putting undue pressure on a 
very sick man.
The ONLY racism and terror practised to real effect was by the IRA and the 
Republican Movement.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:22:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>co-write and direct the film.
>>>
>>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>>mul
>> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>>
>> Ray
>
>never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
>mul
>

ONe day... me and Telmey will meet you....  you've never been to a sci-con?

Ray
(if not Tel, at least me and you will meet - Limerick men afterall)

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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:26:36 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
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> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......

They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
step except you.
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100   author:   Ex_OWM

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
 wrote:

>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>a film.

Again?

http://filmshi.com/db/content/view/12/43/

David H

-- 
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date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT   author:   (David H)

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...

<cut>

>why not, we like winding the village idiot up

The irony of it all...

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:41:09 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT, swelter@btinternet.com (David H)
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
> wrote:
>
>>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>>a film.
>
>Again?

Yes...from the perspective of non-Republicans...I will refrain from
getting terribly excited about it.

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:42:23 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
wrote:

>
>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
>> or
>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>
>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
>step except you.
>

I'm a traditional Republican....  

Ray

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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:59:05 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>> "crop"
>>> or
>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>
>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>in
>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>of
>>step except you.
>>
>
> I'm a traditional Republican....
>
> Ray

Oh, a wanker, you mean!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>>> "crop"
>>>> or
>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>
>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>>in
>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>>of
>>>step except you.
>>>
>>
>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>
>> Ray
>
>Oh, a wanker, you mean!

Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Ray

-- 
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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:58:52 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:rddb53pu5hur1qpong0cqo7pjpk02cb645@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>>>> "crop"
>>>>> or
>>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>>
>>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of 
>>>>republican/nationalist -
>>>>in
>>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out
>>>>of
>>>>step except you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>>Oh, a wanker, you mean!
>
> Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Not really, since I am NOT a Unionist. As per usual, your facts are quite 
wrong. Wanker!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:15:19 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> > made into
> > a film.
>
> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
just
> laying there thinking of cream cakes

always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
pathetic..
>
> >
> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> > McQueen, who
> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >
> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> > contemporary
> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >
> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> > 1981, shortly after
> > being elected an MP.
> >
> > Political protest
> >
> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
political
> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >
> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource
> > for
> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >
> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
> > the
> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions

Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >
> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
> > what it
> > is like to die for a cause."
> >
> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
> weapons.

The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >
> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
> > for
> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
> > die.
> >
>
> >
> > This is good news!!!
>
> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>
> >
> >
> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
site
> > for 3
> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
No...
> > One
> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
> > other...
> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
> > the past
> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol

Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
"Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >
> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here
> > were a
> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
on
> > the
> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world
> > to
> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >
> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
"crop"
> > or
> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They
> > do not
> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> > gratification
> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
> > occupied
> > counties of Ireland....
> >
> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >
> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
"side"
> > has
> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting
> > is
> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
Not
> > to me,
> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >
> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
Republican
> > Hero!
> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because you think you are so great
> >
> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> > Nationalists!
> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
and
> > to
> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> > co-operate
> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
Unionist
> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >
> > So one final appeal!
> >
> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know
> > it's an
> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
you
> > don't
> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >
> > Ray
> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>
> Well get back to Irealnd then

It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

> >
> > --
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have
> > been to lose;
> > to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a
> > tradition to
> > the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder,
> > May2,1916.
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> >
****************************************************************************
************
>
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:52:46 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message
news:gvrt4351pnru3o78195ino5ikasjoook4e@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
>  wrote:
>
> >"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
> <cut>
>
> >why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> The irony of it all...
>
> CB

Every time I see a post from him, the village peoples YMCA tune starts up in
my head...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:53:44 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On May 17, 4:02 pm, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" 
wrote:
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
> a film.

Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
date: 24 May 2007 17:45:51 -0700   author:   Sidheseeker

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>
> "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
>> > made into
>> > a film.
>>
>> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> just
>> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>
> always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
> pathetic..
>>
>> >
>> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> > McQueen, who
>> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >
>> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> > contemporary
>> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >
>> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> > 1981, shortly after
>> > being elected an MP.
>> >
>> > Political protest
>> >
>> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> political
>> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >
>> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last 
>> > resource
>> > for
>> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >
>> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
>> > the
>> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>
>> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >
>> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
>> > what it
>> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >
>> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>
>> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
>> weapons.
>
> The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >
>> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
>> > for
>> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
>> > die.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > This is good news!!!
>>
>> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> site
>> > for 3
>> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> No...
>> > One
>> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
>> > other...
>> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
>> > the past
>> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>
>> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >
>> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on 
>> > here
>> > were a
>> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
> on
>> > the
>> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole 
>> > world
>> > to
>> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >
>> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> "crop"
>> > or
>> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so...... 
>> > They
>> > do not
>> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> > gratification
>> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
>> > occupied
>> > counties of Ireland....
>> >
>> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >
>> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> "side"
>> > has
>> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for 
>> > posting
>> > is
>> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> Not
>> > to me,
>> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>
>> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >
>> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> Republican
>> > Hero!
>> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>
>> Because you think you are so great
>> >
>> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> > Nationalists!
>> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
> and
>> > to
>> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> > co-operate
>> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> Unionist
>> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >
>> > So one final appeal!
>> >
>> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I 
>> > know
>> > it's an
>> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
> you
>> > don't
>> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >
>> > Ray
>> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>
>> Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?

ROTFL!!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:29:55 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Sidheseeker"  wrote in message
news:1180053951.051583.286660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
made into
> > a film.

> Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
> Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
> as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..

I'd expect the film to begin with a montage of all the things that led to
the hunger strikers being imprisoned, and continue with the killings that
the IRA carried out while the strikes were going on. Do you think that will
happen, or will it be a Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil
rights?


--

J/

SOTW: "A Fierce Pancake" - Stump

http://www.azcars.eu/wdfdi/index.htm
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:13:37 +0100   author:   Westprog

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Westprog"  wrote in message 
news:f369go$5dn$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> "Sidheseeker"  wrote in message
> news:1180053951.051583.286660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> made into
>> > a film.
>
>> Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
>> Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
>> as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
>
> I'd expect the film to begin with a montage of all the things that led to
> the hunger strikers being imprisoned, and continue with the killings that
> the IRA carried out while the strikes were going on. Do you think that 
> will
> happen, or will it be a Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil
> rights?
>

Hee! Hee! Such a silly question! LOL!

Of  "course" it will be the "Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil 
rights" option! Also, a "lets blame it all on Maggie Thatcher" option. 
Completely ignoring the fact that as the British Prime Minister, she could 
never allow herself to give in to blackmail.

As I said before, Sands was a Republican, and therefore a complete wanker.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:06:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> >
> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >>
> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
be
> >> > made into
> >> > a film.
> >>
> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> > just
> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
> >
> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
fucking
> > pathetic..
> >>
> >> >
> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> >> > McQueen, who
> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >> >
> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> >> > contemporary
> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >> >
> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> >> > 1981, shortly after
> >> > being elected an MP.
> >> >
> >> > Political protest
> >> >
> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> > political
> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >> >
> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
> >> > resource
> >> > for
> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >> >
> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
archive,
> >> > the
> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
> >>
> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
> >
> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >> >
> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
on
> >> > what it
> >> > is like to die for a cause."
> >> >
> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
> >>
> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
their
> >> weapons.
> >
> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >> >
> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
status
> >> > for
> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
to
> >> > die.
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > This is good news!!!
> >>
> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> > site
> >> > for 3
> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> > No...
> >> > One
> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
The
> >> > other...
> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots
in
> >> > the past
> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
> >>
> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
> >
> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >> >
> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
> >> > here
> >> > were a
> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
Loyalism
> > on
> >> > the
> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
> >> > world
> >> > to
> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >> >
> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> > "crop"
> >> > or
> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
> >> > They
> >> > do not
> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> >> > gratification
> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the
6
> >> > occupied
> >> > counties of Ireland....
> >> >
> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >> >
> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> > "side"
> >> > has
> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
> >> > posting
> >> > is
> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> > Not
> >> > to me,
> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
> >>
> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >> >
> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> > Republican
> >> > Hero!
> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
> >>
> >> Because you think you are so great
> >> >
> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> >> > Nationalists!
> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
counties
> > and
> >> > to
> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> >> > co-operate
> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> > Unionist
> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >> >
> >> > So one final appeal!
> >> >
> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
> >> > know
> >> > it's an
> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
If
> > you
> >> > don't
> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >> >
> >> > Ray
> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
> >>
> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
> >
> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
> >
> >
> >
> > James
> > aka
> > Commander Hughes
> >
> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>
> ROTFL!!

Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if you're
asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.

However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in political
terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.

Hope I've cleared this up for you.



James
aka
Commander Hughes

>
> --
> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
 wrote:

>
>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
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>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
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>> >
>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> >>
>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>be
>> >> > made into
>> >> > a film.
>> >>
>> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
>> > just
>> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>> >
>> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
>fucking
>> > pathetic..
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> >> > McQueen, who
>> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >> >
>> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> >> > contemporary
>> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> >> > 1981, shortly after
>> >> > being elected an MP.
>> >> >
>> >> > Political protest
>> >> >
>> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
>> > political
>> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >> >
>> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
>> >> > resource
>> >> > for
>> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >> >
>> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
>archive,
>> >> > the
>> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>> >>
>> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>> >
>> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
>on
>> >> > what it
>> >> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >> >
>> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>> >>
>> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
>their
>> >> weapons.
>> >
>> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >> >
>> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
>status
>> >> > for
>> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
>to
>> >> > die.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > This is good news!!!
>> >>
>> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
>> > site
>> >> > for 3
>> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
>> > No...
>> >> > One
>> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
>The
>> >> > other...
>> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots
>in
>> >> > the past
>> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>> >>
>> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>> >
>> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
>> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >> >
>> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
>> >> > here
>> >> > were a
>> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
>Loyalism
>> > on
>> >> > the
>> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
>> >> > world
>> >> > to
>> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >> >
>> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>> > "crop"
>> >> > or
>> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>> >> > They
>> >> > do not
>> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> >> > gratification
>> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the
>6
>> >> > occupied
>> >> > counties of Ireland....
>> >> >
>> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >> >
>> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
>> > "side"
>> >> > has
>> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
>> >> > posting
>> >> > is
>> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
>> > Not
>> >> > to me,
>> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>> >>
>> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >> >
>> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
>> > Republican
>> >> > Hero!
>> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>> >>
>> >> Because you think you are so great
>> >> >
>> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> >> > Nationalists!
>> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
>counties
>> > and
>> >> > to
>> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> >> > co-operate
>> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
>> > Unionist
>> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >> >
>> >> > So one final appeal!
>> >> >
>> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
>> >> > know
>> >> > it's an
>> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
>If
>> > you
>> >> > don't
>> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >> >
>> >> > Ray
>> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>> >>
>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>> >
>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > James
>> > aka
>> > Commander Hughes
>> >
>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>
>> ROTFL!!
>
>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if you're
>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.
>
>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in political
>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.
>
>Hope I've cleared this up for you.

Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
support his Unionist view.

There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.

CB

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date: Sat, 26 May 2007 06:47:08 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
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>
> "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
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>>
>> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
>> > made into
>> > a film.
>>
>> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> just
>> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>
> always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
> pathetic..
No not at all jimmy, sands was a convicted criminal who decided the best way 
out was to top himself,
ie suicide....the cowards way out and if I am led to believe a really 
naughty thing to do if you are a catholic.

Sands was the one that was pathetic.


>>
>> >
>> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> > McQueen, who
>> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >
>> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> > contemporary
>> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >
>> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> > 1981, shortly after
>> > being elected an MP.
>> >
>> > Political protest
>> >
>> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> political
>> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >
>> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last 
>> > resource
>> > for
>> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >
>> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
>> > the
>> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>
>> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >
>> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
>> > what it
>> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >
>> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>
>> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
>> weapons.
>
> The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >
>> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
>> > for
>> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
>> > die.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > This is good news!!!
>>
>> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> site
>> > for 3
>> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> No...
>> > One
>> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
>> > other...
>> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
>> > the past
>> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>
>> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >
>> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on 
>> > here
>> > were a
>> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
> on
>> > the
>> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole 
>> > world
>> > to
>> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >
>> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> "crop"
>> > or
>> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so...... 
>> > They
>> > do not
>> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> > gratification
>> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
>> > occupied
>> > counties of Ireland....
>> >
>> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >
>> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> "side"
>> > has
>> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for 
>> > posting
>> > is
>> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> Not
>> > to me,
>> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>
>> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >
>> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> Republican
>> > Hero!
>> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>
>> Because you think you are so great
>> >
>> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> > Nationalists!
>> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
> and
>> > to
>> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> > co-operate
>> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> Unionist
>> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >
>> > So one final appeal!
>> >
>> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I 
>> > know
>> > it's an
>> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
> you
>> > don't
>> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >
>> > Ray
>> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>
>> Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...

I know jimmy
>
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
>> >
>> > --
>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> ************
>> > "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have
>> > been to lose;
>> > to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a
>> > tradition to
>> > the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder,
>> > May2,1916.
>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> ************
>> > Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> ************
>>
>>
>
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:43:34 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
>>news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
>>> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>> >
>>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>>> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> >>
>>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>>be
>>> >> > made into
>>> >> > a film.
>>> >>
>>> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was 
>>> >> he,
>>> > just
>>> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>>> >
>>> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
>>fucking
>>> > pathetic..
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>>> >> > McQueen, who
>>> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>>> >> > contemporary
>>> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in 
>>> >> > May
>>> >> > 1981, shortly after
>>> >> > being elected an MP.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Political protest
>>> >> >
>>> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
>>> > political
>>> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
>>> >> > resource
>>> >> > for
>>> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
>>archive,
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>> >>
>>> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>>> >
>>> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
>>on
>>> >> > what it
>>> >> > is like to die for a cause."
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>> >>
>>> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
>>their
>>> >> weapons.
>>> >
>>> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
>>status
>>> >> > for
>>> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
>>to
>>> >> > die.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > This is good news!!!
>>> >>
>>> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the 
>>> >> > BBC
>>> > site
>>> >> > for 3
>>> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
>>> > No...
>>> >> > One
>>> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
>>The
>>> >> > other...
>>> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real 
>>> >> > roots
>>in
>>> >> > the past
>>> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>> >>
>>> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>>> >
>>> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out 
>>> > there.
>>> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
>>> >> > here
>>> >> > were a
>>> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
>>Loyalism
>>> > on
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
>>> >> > world
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>> > "crop"
>>> >> > or
>>> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>> >> > They
>>> >> > do not
>>> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form 
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>>> >> > gratification
>>> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in 
>>> >> > the
>>6
>>> >> > occupied
>>> >> > counties of Ireland....
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
>>> > "side"
>>> >> > has
>>> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
>>> >> > posting
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
>>> > Not
>>> >> > to me,
>>> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>> >>
>>> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
>>> > Republican
>>> >> > Hero!
>>> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>> >>
>>> >> Because you think you are so great
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>>> >> > Nationalists!
>>> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
>>counties
>>> > and
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>>> >> > co-operate
>>> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
>>> > Unionist
>>> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So one final appeal!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
>>> >> > know
>>> >> > it's an
>>> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
>>If
>>> > you
>>> >> > don't
>>> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Ray
>>> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>> >>
>>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>>> >
>>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > James
>>> > aka
>>> > Commander Hughes
>>> >
>>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>>
>>> ROTFL!!
>>
>>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if 
>>you're
>>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.
>>
>>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in 
>>political
>>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.
>>
>>Hope I've cleared this up for you.
>
> Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
> I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
> it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
> support his Unionist view.
>
> There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
> Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.

Kettle...black call springs to mind boy
>
> CB
>
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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:44:44 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
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> "The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
>>  wrote:
>>
>> >"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
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>>
>> <cut>
>>
>> >why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>>
>> The irony of it all...
>>
>> CB
>
> Every time I see a post from him, the village peoples YMCA tune starts up 
> in
> my head...
> See i told you so jimmy, you really are a nonce, you keep harping on about 
> it.
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:45:37 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
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>>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
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>>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
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>>> >>
>>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>>be
>>> >> > made into
>>> >> > a film.
>>> >>

.........."SNIP"...................

>>> >>
>>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>>> >
>>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > James
>>> > aka
>>> > Commander Hughes
>>> >
>>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>>
>>> ROTFL!!
>>
>>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if 
>>you're
>>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.

Thought so on both points.

>>
>>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in 
>>political
>>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.

Well? So are we all.

>>
>>Hope I've cleared this up for you.

Yes.
>
> Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
> I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
> it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
> support his Unionist view.

ROTFL!! I am nothing if not consistant in fact. As for contradicting myself, 
Oh Really? - I don't think so!  I cannot be responsible for your bad 
understanding of the Queen's English, and sadly, I cannot speak Maori!

Oh, and yet again, I am NOT a Unionist. I am a Democrat and a Capitalist. 
Note the capitals!

>
> There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
> Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.

HMM! Irrational eh? I don't believe so. You are, supposedly and claimed as 
such by yourself, a highly qualified person and very logical. Both, in my 
experience, completly incorrect. And "I" never tell lies either! You are 
indulging in ad hominem. TUT! TUT!

Far be it for me to gloat! BUT In the Irish election it seems Sinn Fein so 
far tonight have only got TWO seats! They are forecast to only end up with 
five seats! So much for progress, so much for over confidence. As I said in 
another post, the Irish people have far too much common sense to put in Sinn 
Fein even by mistake!

ROTFLMAO!!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 21:55:07 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 25 May 2007 19:43:34 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
>news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>
>> "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>> news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>
>>> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
>>> > made into
>>> > a film.
>>>
>>> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
>> just
>>> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>>
>> always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
>> pathetic..

>No not at all jimmy, sands was a convicted criminal who decided the best way 
>out was to top himself, ie suicide....the cowards way out

If done quickly...maybe...one could hardly sensibly suggest that this
was the case with Bobby Sands.

> and if I am led to believe a really naughty thing to do if you are a catholic.

Bobby Sands was Irish before he was Catholic...this is an important
point that you need to grasp. Sadly, I am not confident that you will
manage this feat due to your demonstrably low intellect.

Have a nice day
CB

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date: Sat, 26 May 2007 16:51:19 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 25 May 2007 19:44:44 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>
>"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message 
>news:1mbe53t2rcju9hspirqu5qpjfnnkgo468h@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
>>>news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
>>>> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>>> >
>>>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>>>> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>>>be
>>>> >> > made into
>>>> >> > a film.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was 
>>>> >> he,
>>>> > just
>>>> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>>>> >
>>>> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
>>>fucking
>>>> > pathetic..
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>>>> >> > McQueen, who
>>>> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>>>> >> > contemporary
>>>> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in 
>>>> >> > May
>>>> >> > 1981, shortly after
>>>> >> > being elected an MP.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Political protest
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
>>>> > political
>>>> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
>>>> >> > resource
>>>> >> > for
>>>> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
>>>archive,
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>>>> >
>>>> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
>>>on
>>>> >> > what it
>>>> >> > is like to die for a cause."
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
>>>their
>>>> >> weapons.
>>>> >
>>>> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
>>>status
>>>> >> > for
>>>> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
>>>to
>>>> >> > die.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > This is good news!!!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the 
>>>> >> > BBC
>>>> > site
>>>> >> > for 3
>>>> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
>>>> > No...
>>>> >> > One
>>>> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
>>>The
>>>> >> > other...
>>>> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real 
>>>> >> > roots
>>>in
>>>> >> > the past
>>>> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>>>> >
>>>> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out 
>>>> > there.
>>>> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
>>>> >> > here
>>>> >> > were a
>>>> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
>>>Loyalism
>>>> > on
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
>>>> >> > world
>>>> >> > to
>>>> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>>> > "crop"
>>>> >> > or
>>>> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>> >> > They
>>>> >> > do not
>>>> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form 
>>>> >> > a
>>>> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>>>> >> > gratification
>>>> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in 
>>>> >> > the
>>>6
>>>> >> > occupied
>>>> >> > counties of Ireland....
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
>>>> > "side"
>>>> >> > has
>>>> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
>>>> >> > posting
>>>> >> > is
>>>> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
>>>> > Not
>>>> >> > to me,
>>>> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
>>>> > Republican
>>>> >> > Hero!
>>>> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Because you think you are so great
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>>>> >> > Nationalists!
>>>> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
>>>counties
>>>> > and
>>>> >> > to
>>>> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>>>> >> > co-operate
>>>> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
>>>> > Unionist
>>>> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > So one final appeal!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
>>>> >> > know
>>>> >> > it's an
>>>> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
>>>If
>>>> > you
>>>> >> > don't
>>>> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Ray
>>>> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>>>> >
>>>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > James
>>>> > aka
>>>> > Commander Hughes
>>>> >
>>>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL!!
>>>
>>>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if 
>>>you're
>>>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.
>>>
>>>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in 
>>>political
>>>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.
>>>
>>>Hope I've cleared this up for you.
>>
>> Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
>> I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
>> it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
>> support his Unionist view.
>>
>> There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
>> Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.
>
>Kettle...black call springs to mind boy

Au contraire. 

In actuality, and after considerable empirical investigation by a
panel of sociological and psychological consultants at the behest of
the United Nations Usenet Moderation committee, the counterfactual has
been established. With the further finding that not only is Harry
Merrick the most mindlessly irrational and prejudiced person in
soc.culture.irish but that David Jones is likewise the penultimate.

Have a nice day
CB

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date: Sat, 26 May 2007 17:07:20 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.

fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he, just 
laying there thinking of cream cakes

>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 
> 1981, shortly after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.

It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.

Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their 
weapons.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>

>
> This is good news!!!

Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?

>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?

They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!

why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?

Because you think you are so great
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!
>
> Ray
> (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)

Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> -- 
> ****************************************************************************************
> "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have 
> been to lose;
> to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a 
> tradition to
> the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, 
> May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.

we will never forget  jimmy sands
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>
>> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
>> McQueen, who
>> will co-write and direct the film.
>
>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>mul
>
>

How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)

Ray

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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:10:25 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
co-write and direct the film.
>>
>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>mul
> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>
> Ray

never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.
>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, died in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 1981, shortly 
> after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/entertainment/6660999.stm
>
> This is good news!!!  If the movie remains true the story that is!  And 
> that
> remains to be seen when the film comes out!
>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!

Your no true Republican, that IS for sure. As for Bobby Sands, he was a 
murderous wee shite totally corrupted by Republican propaganda and 
brainwashed into committing suicide for an out of date ethos, as were his 
compatriots. The RC church did it's best to stop his idiotic actions and 
failed to do so due to the Republican Movement putting undue pressure on a 
very sick man.
The ONLY racism and terror practised to real effect was by the IRA and the 
Republican Movement.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:22:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>co-write and direct the film.
>>>
>>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>>mul
>> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>>
>> Ray
>
>never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
>mul
>

ONe day... me and Telmey will meet you....  you've never been to a sci-con?

Ray
(if not Tel, at least me and you will meet - Limerick men afterall)

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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:26:36 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
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> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......

They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
step except you.
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100   author:   Ex_OWM

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
 wrote:

>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>a film.

Again?

http://filmshi.com/db/content/view/12/43/

David H

-- 
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date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT   author:   (David H)

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...

<cut>

>why not, we like winding the village idiot up

The irony of it all...

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:41:09 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT, swelter@btinternet.com (David H)
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
> wrote:
>
>>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>>a film.
>
>Again?

Yes...from the perspective of non-Republicans...I will refrain from
getting terribly excited about it.

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:42:23 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
wrote:

>
>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
>> or
>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>
>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
>step except you.
>

I'm a traditional Republican....  

Ray

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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:59:05 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>> "crop"
>>> or
>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>
>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>in
>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>of
>>step except you.
>>
>
> I'm a traditional Republican....
>
> Ray

Oh, a wanker, you mean!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>>> "crop"
>>>> or
>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>
>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>>in
>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>>of
>>>step except you.
>>>
>>
>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>
>> Ray
>
>Oh, a wanker, you mean!

Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Ray

-- 
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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:58:52 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:rddb53pu5hur1qpong0cqo7pjpk02cb645@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>>>> "crop"
>>>>> or
>>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>>
>>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of 
>>>>republican/nationalist -
>>>>in
>>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out
>>>>of
>>>>step except you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>>Oh, a wanker, you mean!
>
> Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Not really, since I am NOT a Unionist. As per usual, your facts are quite 
wrong. Wanker!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:15:19 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> > made into
> > a film.
>
> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
just
> laying there thinking of cream cakes

always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
pathetic..
>
> >
> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> > McQueen, who
> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >
> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> > contemporary
> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >
> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> > 1981, shortly after
> > being elected an MP.
> >
> > Political protest
> >
> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
political
> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >
> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource
> > for
> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >
> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
> > the
> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions

Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >
> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
> > what it
> > is like to die for a cause."
> >
> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
> weapons.

The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >
> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
> > for
> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
> > die.
> >
>
> >
> > This is good news!!!
>
> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>
> >
> >
> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
site
> > for 3
> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
No...
> > One
> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
> > other...
> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
> > the past
> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol

Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
"Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >
> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here
> > were a
> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
on
> > the
> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world
> > to
> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >
> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
"crop"
> > or
> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They
> > do not
> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> > gratification
> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
> > occupied
> > counties of Ireland....
> >
> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >
> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
"side"
> > has
> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting
> > is
> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
Not
> > to me,
> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >
> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
Republican
> > Hero!
> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because you think you are so great
> >
> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> > Nationalists!
> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
and
> > to
> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> > co-operate
> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
Unionist
> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >
> > So one final appeal!
> >
> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know
> > it's an
> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
you
> > don't
> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >
> > Ray
> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>
> Well get back to Irealnd then

It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

> >
> > --
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have
> > been to lose;
> > to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a
> > tradition to
> > the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder,
> > May2,1916.
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> >
****************************************************************************
************
>
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:52:46 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message
news:gvrt4351pnru3o78195ino5ikasjoook4e@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
>  wrote:
>
> >"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
> <cut>
>
> >why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> The irony of it all...
>
> CB

Every time I see a post from him, the village peoples YMCA tune starts up in
my head...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:53:44 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On May 17, 4:02 pm, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" 
wrote:
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
> a film.

Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
date: 24 May 2007 17:45:51 -0700   author:   Sidheseeker

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>
> "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
>> > made into
>> > a film.
>>
>> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> just
>> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>
> always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
> pathetic..
>>
>> >
>> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> > McQueen, who
>> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >
>> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> > contemporary
>> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >
>> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> > 1981, shortly after
>> > being elected an MP.
>> >
>> > Political protest
>> >
>> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> political
>> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >
>> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last 
>> > resource
>> > for
>> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >
>> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
>> > the
>> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>
>> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >
>> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
>> > what it
>> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >
>> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>
>> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
>> weapons.
>
> The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >
>> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
>> > for
>> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
>> > die.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > This is good news!!!
>>
>> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> site
>> > for 3
>> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> No...
>> > One
>> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
>> > other...
>> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
>> > the past
>> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>
>> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >
>> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on 
>> > here
>> > were a
>> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
> on
>> > the
>> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole 
>> > world
>> > to
>> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >
>> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> "crop"
>> > or
>> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so...... 
>> > They
>> > do not
>> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> > gratification
>> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
>> > occupied
>> > counties of Ireland....
>> >
>> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >
>> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> "side"
>> > has
>> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for 
>> > posting
>> > is
>> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> Not
>> > to me,
>> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>
>> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >
>> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> Republican
>> > Hero!
>> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>
>> Because you think you are so great
>> >
>> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> > Nationalists!
>> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
> and
>> > to
>> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> > co-operate
>> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> Unionist
>> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >
>> > So one final appeal!
>> >
>> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I 
>> > know
>> > it's an
>> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
> you
>> > don't
>> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >
>> > Ray
>> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>
>> Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?

ROTFL!!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:29:55 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Sidheseeker"  wrote in message
news:1180053951.051583.286660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
made into
> > a film.

> Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
> Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
> as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..

I'd expect the film to begin with a montage of all the things that led to
the hunger strikers being imprisoned, and continue with the killings that
the IRA carried out while the strikes were going on. Do you think that will
happen, or will it be a Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil
rights?


--

J/

SOTW: "A Fierce Pancake" - Stump

http://www.azcars.eu/wdfdi/index.htm
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:13:37 +0100   author:   Westprog

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Westprog"  wrote in message 
news:f369go$5dn$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> "Sidheseeker"  wrote in message
> news:1180053951.051583.286660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> made into
>> > a film.
>
>> Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
>> Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
>> as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
>
> I'd expect the film to begin with a montage of all the things that led to
> the hunger strikers being imprisoned, and continue with the killings that
> the IRA carried out while the strikes were going on. Do you think that 
> will
> happen, or will it be a Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil
> rights?
>

Hee! Hee! Such a silly question! LOL!

Of  "course" it will be the "Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil 
rights" option! Also, a "lets blame it all on Maggie Thatcher" option. 
Completely ignoring the fact that as the British Prime Minister, she could 
never allow herself to give in to blackmail.

As I said before, Sands was a Republican, and therefore a complete wanker.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:06:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> >
> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >>
> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
be
> >> > made into
> >> > a film.
> >>
> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> > just
> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
> >
> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
fucking
> > pathetic..
> >>
> >> >
> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> >> > McQueen, who
> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >> >
> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> >> > contemporary
> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >> >
> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> >> > 1981, shortly after
> >> > being elected an MP.
> >> >
> >> > Political protest
> >> >
> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> > political
> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >> >
> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
> >> > resource
> >> > for
> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >> >
> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
archive,
> >> > the
> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
> >>
> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
> >
> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >> >
> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
on
> >> > what it
> >> > is like to die for a cause."
> >> >
> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
> >>
> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
their
> >> weapons.
> >
> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >> >
> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
status
> >> > for
> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
to
> >> > die.
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > This is good news!!!
> >>
> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> > site
> >> > for 3
> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> > No...
> >> > One
> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
The
> >> > other...
> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots
in
> >> > the past
> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
> >>
> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
> >
> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >> >
> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
> >> > here
> >> > were a
> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
Loyalism
> > on
> >> > the
> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
> >> > world
> >> > to
> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >> >
> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> > "crop"
> >> > or
> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
> >> > They
> >> > do not
> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> >> > gratification
> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the
6
> >> > occupied
> >> > counties of Ireland....
> >> >
> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >> >
> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> > "side"
> >> > has
> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
> >> > posting
> >> > is
> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> > Not
> >> > to me,
> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
> >>
> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >> >
> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> > Republican
> >> > Hero!
> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
> >>
> >> Because you think you are so great
> >> >
> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> >> > Nationalists!
> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
counties
> > and
> >> > to
> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> >> > co-operate
> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> > Unionist
> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >> >
> >> > So one final appeal!
> >> >
> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
> >> > know
> >> > it's an
> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
If
> > you
> >> > don't
> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >> >
> >> > Ray
> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
> >>
> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
> >
> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
> >
> >
> >
> > James
> > aka
> > Commander Hughes
> >
> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>
> ROTFL!!

Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if you're
asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.

However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in political
terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.

Hope I've cleared this up for you.



James
aka
Commander Hughes

>
> --
> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
 wrote:

>
>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
>news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
>> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>> >
>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> >>
>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>be
>> >> > made into
>> >> > a film.
>> >>
>> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
>> > just
>> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>> >
>> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
>fucking
>> > pathetic..
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> >> > McQueen, who
>> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >> >
>> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> >> > contemporary
>> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> >> > 1981, shortly after
>> >> > being elected an MP.
>> >> >
>> >> > Political protest
>> >> >
>> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
>> > political
>> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >> >
>> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
>> >> > resource
>> >> > for
>> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >> >
>> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
>archive,
>> >> > the
>> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>> >>
>> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>> >
>> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
>on
>> >> > what it
>> >> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >> >
>> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>> >>
>> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
>their
>> >> weapons.
>> >
>> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >> >
>> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
>status
>> >> > for
>> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
>to
>> >> > die.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > This is good news!!!
>> >>
>> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
>> > site
>> >> > for 3
>> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
>> > No...
>> >> > One
>> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
>The
>> >> > other...
>> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots
>in
>> >> > the past
>> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>> >>
>> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>> >
>> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
>> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >> >
>> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
>> >> > here
>> >> > were a
>> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
>Loyalism
>> > on
>> >> > the
>> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
>> >> > world
>> >> > to
>> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >> >
>> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>> > "crop"
>> >> > or
>> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>> >> > They
>> >> > do not
>> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> >> > gratification
>> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the
>6
>> >> > occupied
>> >> > counties of Ireland....
>> >> >
>> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >> >
>> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
>> > "side"
>> >> > has
>> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
>> >> > posting
>> >> > is
>> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
>> > Not
>> >> > to me,
>> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>> >>
>> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >> >
>> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
>> > Republican
>> >> > Hero!
>> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>> >>
>> >> Because you think you are so great
>> >> >
>> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> >> > Nationalists!
>> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
>counties
>> > and
>> >> > to
>> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> >> > co-operate
>> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
>> > Unionist
>> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >> >
>> >> > So one final appeal!
>> >> >
>> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
>> >> > know
>> >> > it's an
>> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
>If
>> > you
>> >> > don't
>> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >> >
>> >> > Ray
>> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>> >>
>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>> >
>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > James
>> > aka
>> > Commander Hughes
>> >
>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>
>> ROTFL!!
>
>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if you're
>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.
>
>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in political
>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.
>
>Hope I've cleared this up for you.

Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
support his Unionist view.

There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.

CB

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date: Sat, 26 May 2007 06:47:08 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>
> "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
>> > made into
>> > a film.
>>
>> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> just
>> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>
> always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
> pathetic..
No not at all jimmy, sands was a convicted criminal who decided the best way 
out was to top himself,
ie suicide....the cowards way out and if I am led to believe a really 
naughty thing to do if you are a catholic.

Sands was the one that was pathetic.


>>
>> >
>> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> > McQueen, who
>> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >
>> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> > contemporary
>> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >
>> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> > 1981, shortly after
>> > being elected an MP.
>> >
>> > Political protest
>> >
>> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> political
>> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >
>> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last 
>> > resource
>> > for
>> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >
>> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
>> > the
>> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>
>> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >
>> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
>> > what it
>> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >
>> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>
>> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
>> weapons.
>
> The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >
>> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
>> > for
>> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
>> > die.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > This is good news!!!
>>
>> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> site
>> > for 3
>> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> No...
>> > One
>> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
>> > other...
>> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
>> > the past
>> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>
>> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >
>> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on 
>> > here
>> > were a
>> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
> on
>> > the
>> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole 
>> > world
>> > to
>> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >
>> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> "crop"
>> > or
>> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so...... 
>> > They
>> > do not
>> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> > gratification
>> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
>> > occupied
>> > counties of Ireland....
>> >
>> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >
>> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> "side"
>> > has
>> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for 
>> > posting
>> > is
>> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> Not
>> > to me,
>> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>
>> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >
>> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> Republican
>> > Hero!
>> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>
>> Because you think you are so great
>> >
>> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> > Nationalists!
>> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
> and
>> > to
>> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> > co-operate
>> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> Unionist
>> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >
>> > So one final appeal!
>> >
>> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I 
>> > know
>> > it's an
>> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
> you
>> > don't
>> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >
>> > Ray
>> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>
>> Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...

I know jimmy
>
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
>> >
>> > --
>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> ************
>> > "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have
>> > been to lose;
>> > to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a
>> > tradition to
>> > the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder,
>> > May2,1916.
>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> ************
>> > Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> ************
>>
>>
>
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:43:34 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
>>news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
>>> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>> >
>>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>>> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> >>
>>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>>be
>>> >> > made into
>>> >> > a film.
>>> >>
>>> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was 
>>> >> he,
>>> > just
>>> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>>> >
>>> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
>>fucking
>>> > pathetic..
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>>> >> > McQueen, who
>>> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>>> >> > contemporary
>>> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in 
>>> >> > May
>>> >> > 1981, shortly after
>>> >> > being elected an MP.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Political protest
>>> >> >
>>> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
>>> > political
>>> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
>>> >> > resource
>>> >> > for
>>> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
>>archive,
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>> >>
>>> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>>> >
>>> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
>>on
>>> >> > what it
>>> >> > is like to die for a cause."
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>> >>
>>> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
>>their
>>> >> weapons.
>>> >
>>> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
>>status
>>> >> > for
>>> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
>>to
>>> >> > die.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > This is good news!!!
>>> >>
>>> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the 
>>> >> > BBC
>>> > site
>>> >> > for 3
>>> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
>>> > No...
>>> >> > One
>>> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
>>The
>>> >> > other...
>>> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real 
>>> >> > roots
>>in
>>> >> > the past
>>> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>> >>
>>> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>>> >
>>> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out 
>>> > there.
>>> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
>>> >> > here
>>> >> > were a
>>> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
>>Loyalism
>>> > on
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
>>> >> > world
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>> > "crop"
>>> >> > or
>>> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>> >> > They
>>> >> > do not
>>> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form 
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>>> >> > gratification
>>> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in 
>>> >> > the
>>6
>>> >> > occupied
>>> >> > counties of Ireland....
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
>>> > "side"
>>> >> > has
>>> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
>>> >> > posting
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
>>> > Not
>>> >> > to me,
>>> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>> >>
>>> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
>>> > Republican
>>> >> > Hero!
>>> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>> >>
>>> >> Because you think you are so great
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>>> >> > Nationalists!
>>> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
>>counties
>>> > and
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>>> >> > co-operate
>>> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
>>> > Unionist
>>> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So one final appeal!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
>>> >> > know
>>> >> > it's an
>>> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
>>If
>>> > you
>>> >> > don't
>>> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Ray
>>> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>> >>
>>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>>> >
>>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > James
>>> > aka
>>> > Commander Hughes
>>> >
>>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>>
>>> ROTFL!!
>>
>>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if 
>>you're
>>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.
>>
>>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in 
>>political
>>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.
>>
>>Hope I've cleared this up for you.
>
> Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
> I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
> it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
> support his Unionist view.
>
> There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
> Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.

Kettle...black call springs to mind boy
>
> CB
>
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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:44:44 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
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> "The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
>>  wrote:
>>
>> >"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
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>>
>> <cut>
>>
>> >why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>>
>> The irony of it all...
>>
>> CB
>
> Every time I see a post from him, the village peoples YMCA tune starts up 
> in
> my head...
> See i told you so jimmy, you really are a nonce, you keep harping on about 
> it.
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:45:37 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
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>>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
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>>> >
>>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>>> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> >>
>>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>>be
>>> >> > made into
>>> >> > a film.
>>> >>

.........."SNIP"...................

>>> >>
>>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>>> >
>>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > James
>>> > aka
>>> > Commander Hughes
>>> >
>>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>>
>>> ROTFL!!
>>
>>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if 
>>you're
>>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.

Thought so on both points.

>>
>>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in 
>>political
>>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.

Well? So are we all.

>>
>>Hope I've cleared this up for you.

Yes.
>
> Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
> I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
> it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
> support his Unionist view.

ROTFL!! I am nothing if not consistant in fact. As for contradicting myself, 
Oh Really? - I don't think so!  I cannot be responsible for your bad 
understanding of the Queen's English, and sadly, I cannot speak Maori!

Oh, and yet again, I am NOT a Unionist. I am a Democrat and a Capitalist. 
Note the capitals!

>
> There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
> Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.

HMM! Irrational eh? I don't believe so. You are, supposedly and claimed as 
such by yourself, a highly qualified person and very logical. Both, in my 
experience, completly incorrect. And "I" never tell lies either! You are 
indulging in ad hominem. TUT! TUT!

Far be it for me to gloat! BUT In the Irish election it seems Sinn Fein so 
far tonight have only got TWO seats! They are forecast to only end up with 
five seats! So much for progress, so much for over confidence. As I said in 
another post, the Irish people have far too much common sense to put in Sinn 
Fein even by mistake!

ROTFLMAO!!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 21:55:07 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 25 May 2007 19:43:34 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
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>> news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>
>>> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
>>> > made into
>>> > a film.
>>>
>>> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
>> just
>>> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>>
>> always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
>> pathetic..

>No not at all jimmy, sands was a convicted criminal who decided the best way 
>out was to top himself, ie suicide....the cowards way out

If done quickly...maybe...one could hardly sensibly suggest that this
was the case with Bobby Sands.

> and if I am led to believe a really naughty thing to do if you are a catholic.

Bobby Sands was Irish before he was Catholic...this is an important
point that you need to grasp. Sadly, I am not confident that you will
manage this feat due to your demonstrably low intellect.

Have a nice day
CB

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date: Sat, 26 May 2007 16:51:19 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 25 May 2007 19:44:44 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>
>"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message 
>news:1mbe53t2rcju9hspirqu5qpjfnnkgo468h@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
>>>news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
>>>> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>>> >
>>>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>>>> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>>>be
>>>> >> > made into
>>>> >> > a film.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was 
>>>> >> he,
>>>> > just
>>>> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>>>> >
>>>> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
>>>fucking
>>>> > pathetic..
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>>>> >> > McQueen, who
>>>> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>>>> >> > contemporary
>>>> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in 
>>>> >> > May
>>>> >> > 1981, shortly after
>>>> >> > being elected an MP.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Political protest
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
>>>> > political
>>>> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
>>>> >> > resource
>>>> >> > for
>>>> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
>>>archive,
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>>>> >
>>>> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
>>>on
>>>> >> > what it
>>>> >> > is like to die for a cause."
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
>>>their
>>>> >> weapons.
>>>> >
>>>> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
>>>status
>>>> >> > for
>>>> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
>>>to
>>>> >> > die.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > This is good news!!!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the 
>>>> >> > BBC
>>>> > site
>>>> >> > for 3
>>>> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
>>>> > No...
>>>> >> > One
>>>> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
>>>The
>>>> >> > other...
>>>> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real 
>>>> >> > roots
>>>in
>>>> >> > the past
>>>> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>>>> >
>>>> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out 
>>>> > there.
>>>> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
>>>> >> > here
>>>> >> > were a
>>>> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
>>>Loyalism
>>>> > on
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
>>>> >> > world
>>>> >> > to
>>>> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>>> > "crop"
>>>> >> > or
>>>> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>> >> > They
>>>> >> > do not
>>>> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form 
>>>> >> > a
>>>> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>>>> >> > gratification
>>>> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in 
>>>> >> > the
>>>6
>>>> >> > occupied
>>>> >> > counties of Ireland....
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
>>>> > "side"
>>>> >> > has
>>>> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
>>>> >> > posting
>>>> >> > is
>>>> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
>>>> > Not
>>>> >> > to me,
>>>> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
>>>> > Republican
>>>> >> > Hero!
>>>> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Because you think you are so great
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>>>> >> > Nationalists!
>>>> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
>>>counties
>>>> > and
>>>> >> > to
>>>> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>>>> >> > co-operate
>>>> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
>>>> > Unionist
>>>> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > So one final appeal!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
>>>> >> > know
>>>> >> > it's an
>>>> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
>>>If
>>>> > you
>>>> >> > don't
>>>> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Ray
>>>> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>>>> >
>>>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > James
>>>> > aka
>>>> > Commander Hughes
>>>> >
>>>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL!!
>>>
>>>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if 
>>>you're
>>>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.
>>>
>>>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in 
>>>political
>>>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.
>>>
>>>Hope I've cleared this up for you.
>>
>> Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
>> I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
>> it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
>> support his Unionist view.
>>
>> There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
>> Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.
>
>Kettle...black call springs to mind boy

Au contraire. 

In actuality, and after considerable empirical investigation by a
panel of sociological and psychological consultants at the behest of
the United Nations Usenet Moderation committee, the counterfactual has
been established. With the further finding that not only is Harry
Merrick the most mindlessly irrational and prejudiced person in
soc.culture.irish but that David Jones is likewise the penultimate.

Have a nice day
CB

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date: Sat, 26 May 2007 17:07:20 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.

fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he, just 
laying there thinking of cream cakes

>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 
> 1981, shortly after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.

It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.

Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their 
weapons.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>

>
> This is good news!!!

Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?

>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?

They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!

why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?

Because you think you are so great
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!
>
> Ray
> (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)

Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> -- 
> ****************************************************************************************
> "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have 
> been to lose;
> to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a 
> tradition to
> the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, 
> May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.

we will never forget  jimmy sands
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:40 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>
>> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
>> McQueen, who
>> will co-write and direct the film.
>
>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>mul
>
>

How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)

Ray

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to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a tradition to
the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder, May2,1916.
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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:10:25 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
co-write and direct the film.
>>
>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>mul
> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>
> Ray

never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
mul
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100   author:   mul

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be 
> made into
> a film.
>
> It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve 
> McQueen, who
> will co-write and direct the film.
>
> He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international 
> contemporary
> resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>
> Sands, 27, died in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May 1981, shortly 
> after
> being elected an MP.
>
> Political protest
>
> McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in political
> warfare was becoming more familiar.
>
> "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource 
> for
> protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>
> "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive, 
> the
> ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on 
> what it
> is like to die for a cause."
>
> The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status 
> for
> republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to 
> die.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/entertainment/6660999.stm
>
> This is good news!!!  If the movie remains true the story that is!  And 
> that
> remains to be seen when the film comes out!
>
>
> Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC site 
> for 3
> days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...   No... 
> One
> was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The 
> other...
> <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in 
> the past
> in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here 
> were a
> damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism on 
> the
> run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world 
> to
> see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>
> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They 
> do not
> seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego 
> gratification
> then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6 
> occupied
> counties of Ireland....
>
> Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>
> Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican "side" 
> has
> become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting 
> is
> little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?   Not 
> to me,
> Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish Republican 
> Hero!
> Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And 
> Nationalists!
> To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties and 
> to
> remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to 
> co-operate
> and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose Unionist
> racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>
> So one final appeal!
>
> Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know 
> it's an
> old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If you 
> don't
> get it by now...  You simply never will!

Your no true Republican, that IS for sure. As for Bobby Sands, he was a 
murderous wee shite totally corrupted by Republican propaganda and 
brainwashed into committing suicide for an out of date ethos, as were his 
compatriots. The RC church did it's best to stop his idiotic actions and 
failed to do so due to the Republican Movement putting undue pressure on a 
very sick man.
The ONLY racism and terror practised to real effect was by the IRA and the 
Republican Movement.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:22:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:12 +0100, "mul"  wrote:

>
>co-write and direct the film.
>>>
>>>we will never forget  jimmy sands
>>>mul
>> How much is Tel paying you to write this anyway?  ;-)
>>
>> Ray
>
>never met  any person in this forum,,ye is  all mad
>mul
>

ONe day... me and Telmey will meet you....  you've never been to a sci-con?

Ray
(if not Tel, at least me and you will meet - Limerick men afterall)

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date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:26:36 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
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> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
> or
> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......

They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
step except you.
date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100   author:   Ex_OWM

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
 wrote:

>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>a film.

Again?

http://filmshi.com/db/content/view/12/43/

David H

-- 
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date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT   author:   (David H)

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
 wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...

<cut>

>why not, we like winding the village idiot up

The irony of it all...

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:41:09 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 21:51:57 GMT, swelter@btinternet.com (David H)
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:02:45 GMT, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"
> wrote:
>
>>The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
>>a film.
>
>Again?

Yes...from the perspective of non-Republicans...I will refrain from
getting terribly excited about it.

CB

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date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:42:23 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
wrote:

>
>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current "crop" 
>> or
>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>
>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - in 
>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out of 
>step except you.
>

I'm a traditional Republican....  

Ray

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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:59:05 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>> "crop"
>>> or
>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>
>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>in
>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>of
>>step except you.
>>
>
> I'm a traditional Republican....
>
> Ray

Oh, a wanker, you mean!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
wrote:

>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current 
>>>> "crop"
>>>> or
>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>
>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of republican/nationalist - 
>>>in
>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out 
>>>of
>>>step except you.
>>>
>>
>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>
>> Ray
>
>Oh, a wanker, you mean!

Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Ray

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date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:58:52 GMT   author:   WhiteWolf rayhspam@iol.ie

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message 
news:rddb53pu5hur1qpong0cqo7pjpk02cb645@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:09 +0100, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>news:oo5b539313i4prtfncvefvpm931jbtpcb5@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 10:18:59 +0100, "Ex_OWM" 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>>>news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>>>> "crop"
>>>>> or
>>>>> "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>>>
>>>>They/we don't measure up to *your* definition of 
>>>>republican/nationalist -
>>>>in
>>>>Raybo land where Raybo is always right, that means everybody else is out
>>>>of
>>>>step except you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a traditional Republican....
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>>Oh, a wanker, you mean!
>
> Only in the sense that you'd be a Unionist Wanker... if that helps?

Not really, since I am NOT a Unionist. As per usual, your facts are quite 
wrong. Wanker!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:15:19 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> > made into
> > a film.
>
> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
just
> laying there thinking of cream cakes

always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
pathetic..
>
> >
> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> > McQueen, who
> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >
> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> > contemporary
> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >
> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> > 1981, shortly after
> > being elected an MP.
> >
> > Political protest
> >
> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
political
> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >
> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last resource
> > for
> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >
> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
> > the
> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>
> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions

Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >
> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
> > what it
> > is like to die for a cause."
> >
> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>
> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
> weapons.

The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >
> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
> > for
> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
> > die.
> >
>
> >
> > This is good news!!!
>
> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>
> >
> >
> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
site
> > for 3
> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
No...
> > One
> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
> > other...
> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
> > the past
> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>
> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol

Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
"Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >
> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on here
> > were a
> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
on
> > the
> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole world
> > to
> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >
> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
"crop"
> > or
> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......  They
> > do not
> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> > gratification
> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
> > occupied
> > counties of Ireland....
> >
> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >
> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
"side"
> > has
> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for posting
> > is
> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
Not
> > to me,
> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>
> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >
> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
Republican
> > Hero!
> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>
> Because you think you are so great
> >
> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> > Nationalists!
> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
and
> > to
> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> > co-operate
> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
Unionist
> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >
> > So one final appeal!
> >
> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I know
> > it's an
> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
you
> > don't
> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >
> > Ray
> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>
> Well get back to Irealnd then

It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

> >
> > --
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have
> > been to lose;
> > to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a
> > tradition to
> > the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder,
> > May2,1916.
> >
****************************************************************************
************
> > Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
> >
****************************************************************************
************
>
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:52:46 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
>  wrote:
>
> >"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>
> <cut>
>
> >why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>
> The irony of it all...
>
> CB

Every time I see a post from him, the village peoples YMCA tune starts up in
my head...



James
aka
Commander Hughes

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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:53:44 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On May 17, 4:02 pm, "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" 
wrote:
> The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be made into
> a film.

Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
date: 24 May 2007 17:45:51 -0700   author:   Sidheseeker

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>
> "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
>> > made into
>> > a film.
>>
>> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> just
>> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>
> always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
> pathetic..
>>
>> >
>> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> > McQueen, who
>> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >
>> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> > contemporary
>> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >
>> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> > 1981, shortly after
>> > being elected an MP.
>> >
>> > Political protest
>> >
>> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> political
>> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >
>> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last 
>> > resource
>> > for
>> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >
>> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
>> > the
>> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>
>> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >
>> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
>> > what it
>> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >
>> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>
>> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
>> weapons.
>
> The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >
>> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
>> > for
>> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
>> > die.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > This is good news!!!
>>
>> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> site
>> > for 3
>> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> No...
>> > One
>> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
>> > other...
>> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
>> > the past
>> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>
>> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >
>> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on 
>> > here
>> > were a
>> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
> on
>> > the
>> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole 
>> > world
>> > to
>> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >
>> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> "crop"
>> > or
>> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so...... 
>> > They
>> > do not
>> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> > gratification
>> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
>> > occupied
>> > counties of Ireland....
>> >
>> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >
>> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> "side"
>> > has
>> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for 
>> > posting
>> > is
>> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> Not
>> > to me,
>> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>
>> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >
>> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> Republican
>> > Hero!
>> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>
>> Because you think you are so great
>> >
>> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> > Nationalists!
>> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
> and
>> > to
>> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> > co-operate
>> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> Unionist
>> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >
>> > So one final appeal!
>> >
>> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I 
>> > know
>> > it's an
>> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
> you
>> > don't
>> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >
>> > Ray
>> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>
>> Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?

ROTFL!!

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:29:55 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Sidheseeker"  wrote in message
news:1180053951.051583.286660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
made into
> > a film.

> Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
> Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
> as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..

I'd expect the film to begin with a montage of all the things that led to
the hunger strikers being imprisoned, and continue with the killings that
the IRA carried out while the strikes were going on. Do you think that will
happen, or will it be a Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil
rights?


--

J/

SOTW: "A Fierce Pancake" - Stump

http://www.azcars.eu/wdfdi/index.htm
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:13:37 +0100   author:   Westprog

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Westprog"  wrote in message 
news:f369go$5dn$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> "Sidheseeker"  wrote in message
> news:1180053951.051583.286660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
> made into
>> > a film.
>
>> Well.. that should be exciting.. why the last few weeks..?
>> Why not some of his hetoic deeds before going to prison..?
>> as far as I know.. he's only famous for starving himself to death..
>
> I'd expect the film to begin with a montage of all the things that led to
> the hunger strikers being imprisoned, and continue with the killings that
> the IRA carried out while the strikes were going on. Do you think that 
> will
> happen, or will it be a Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil
> rights?
>

Hee! Hee! Such a silly question! LOL!

Of  "course" it will be the "Ghandi style peaceful struggle for basic civil 
rights" option! Also, a "lets blame it all on Maggie Thatcher" option. 
Completely ignoring the fact that as the British Prime Minister, she could 
never allow herself to give in to blackmail.

As I said before, Sands was a Republican, and therefore a complete wanker.

-- 
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:06:11 +0100   author:   Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> >
> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >>
> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
be
> >> > made into
> >> > a film.
> >>
> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> > just
> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
> >
> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
fucking
> > pathetic..
> >>
> >> >
> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
> >> > McQueen, who
> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
> >> >
> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
> >> > contemporary
> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
> >> >
> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
> >> > 1981, shortly after
> >> > being elected an MP.
> >> >
> >> > Political protest
> >> >
> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> > political
> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
> >> >
> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
> >> > resource
> >> > for
> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
> >> >
> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
archive,
> >> > the
> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
> >>
> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
> >
> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
> >> >
> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
on
> >> > what it
> >> > is like to die for a cause."
> >> >
> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
> >>
> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
their
> >> weapons.
> >
> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
> >> >
> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
status
> >> > for
> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
to
> >> > die.
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > This is good news!!!
> >>
> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> > site
> >> > for 3
> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> > No...
> >> > One
> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
The
> >> > other...
> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots
in
> >> > the past
> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
> >>
> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
> >
> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
> >> >
> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
> >> > here
> >> > were a
> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
Loyalism
> > on
> >> > the
> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
> >> > world
> >> > to
> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
> >> >
> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> > "crop"
> >> > or
> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
> >> > They
> >> > do not
> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
> >> > gratification
> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the
6
> >> > occupied
> >> > counties of Ireland....
> >> >
> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
> >> >
> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> > "side"
> >> > has
> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
> >> > posting
> >> > is
> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> > Not
> >> > to me,
> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
> >>
> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
> >> >
> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> > Republican
> >> > Hero!
> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
> >>
> >> Because you think you are so great
> >> >
> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
> >> > Nationalists!
> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
counties
> > and
> >> > to
> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
> >> > co-operate
> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> > Unionist
> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
> >> >
> >> > So one final appeal!
> >> >
> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
> >> > know
> >> > it's an
> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
If
> > you
> >> > don't
> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
> >> >
> >> > Ray
> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
> >>
> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
> >
> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
> >
> >
> >
> > James
> > aka
> > Commander Hughes
> >
> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>
> ROTFL!!

Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if you're
asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.

However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in political
terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.

Hope I've cleared this up for you.



James
aka
Commander Hughes

>
> --
> Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100   author:   Commander Hughes

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
 wrote:

>
>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
>news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
>> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>> >
>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> >>
>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>be
>> >> > made into
>> >> > a film.
>> >>
>> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
>> > just
>> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>> >
>> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
>fucking
>> > pathetic..
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> >> > McQueen, who
>> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >> >
>> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> >> > contemporary
>> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> >> > 1981, shortly after
>> >> > being elected an MP.
>> >> >
>> >> > Political protest
>> >> >
>> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
>> > political
>> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >> >
>> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
>> >> > resource
>> >> > for
>> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >> >
>> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
>archive,
>> >> > the
>> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>> >>
>> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>> >
>> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
>on
>> >> > what it
>> >> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >> >
>> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>> >>
>> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
>their
>> >> weapons.
>> >
>> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >> >
>> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
>status
>> >> > for
>> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
>to
>> >> > die.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > This is good news!!!
>> >>
>> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
>> > site
>> >> > for 3
>> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
>> > No...
>> >> > One
>> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
>The
>> >> > other...
>> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots
>in
>> >> > the past
>> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>> >>
>> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>> >
>> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
>> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >> >
>> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
>> >> > here
>> >> > were a
>> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
>Loyalism
>> > on
>> >> > the
>> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
>> >> > world
>> >> > to
>> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >> >
>> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>> > "crop"
>> >> > or
>> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>> >> > They
>> >> > do not
>> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> >> > gratification
>> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the
>6
>> >> > occupied
>> >> > counties of Ireland....
>> >> >
>> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >> >
>> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
>> > "side"
>> >> > has
>> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
>> >> > posting
>> >> > is
>> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
>> > Not
>> >> > to me,
>> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>> >>
>> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >> >
>> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
>> > Republican
>> >> > Hero!
>> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>> >>
>> >> Because you think you are so great
>> >> >
>> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> >> > Nationalists!
>> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
>counties
>> > and
>> >> > to
>> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> >> > co-operate
>> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
>> > Unionist
>> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >> >
>> >> > So one final appeal!
>> >> >
>> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
>> >> > know
>> >> > it's an
>> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
>If
>> > you
>> >> > don't
>> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >> >
>> >> > Ray
>> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>> >>
>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>> >
>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > James
>> > aka
>> > Commander Hughes
>> >
>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>
>> ROTFL!!
>
>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if you're
>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.
>
>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in political
>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.
>
>Hope I've cleared this up for you.

Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
support his Unionist view.

There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.

CB

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date: Sat, 26 May 2007 06:47:08 +1200   author:   The Colonial Boy

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
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>
> "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
> news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to be
>> > made into
>> > a film.
>>
>> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was he,
> just
>> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>
> always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so fucking
> pathetic..
No not at all jimmy, sands was a convicted criminal who decided the best way 
out was to top himself,
ie suicide....the cowards way out and if I am led to believe a really 
naughty thing to do if you are a catholic.

Sands was the one that was pathetic.


>>
>> >
>> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>> > McQueen, who
>> > will co-write and direct the film.
>> >
>> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>> > contemporary
>> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>> >
>> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in May
>> > 1981, shortly after
>> > being elected an MP.
>> >
>> > Political protest
>> >
>> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
> political
>> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>> >
>> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last 
>> > resource
>> > for
>> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>> >
>> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or archive,
>> > the
>> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>
>> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>
> Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>> >
>> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation on
>> > what it
>> > is like to die for a cause."
>> >
>> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>
>> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of their
>> weapons.
>
> The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>> >
>> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political status
>> > for
>> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men to
>> > die.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > This is good news!!!
>>
>> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the BBC
> site
>> > for 3
>> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
> No...
>> > One
>> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...  The
>> > other...
>> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real roots in
>> > the past
>> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>
>> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>
> Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out there.
> "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>> >
>> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on 
>> > here
>> > were a
>> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has Loyalism
> on
>> > the
>> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole 
>> > world
>> > to
>> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>> >
>> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
> "crop"
>> > or
>> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so...... 
>> > They
>> > do not
>> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form a
>> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>> > gratification
>> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in the 6
>> > occupied
>> > counties of Ireland....
>> >
>> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>> >
>> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
> "side"
>> > has
>> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for 
>> > posting
>> > is
>> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
> Not
>> > to me,
>> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>
>> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>> >
>> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
> Republican
>> > Hero!
>> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>
>> Because you think you are so great
>> >
>> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>> > Nationalists!
>> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six counties
> and
>> > to
>> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>> > co-operate
>> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
> Unionist
>> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>> >
>> > So one final appeal!
>> >
>> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I 
>> > know
>> > it's an
>> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind... If
> you
>> > don't
>> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>> >
>> > Ray
>> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>
>> Well get back to Irealnd then
>
> It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...

I know jimmy
>
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
>> >
>> > --
>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> ************
>> > "We seem to have lost. We have not lost. To refuse to fight would have
>> > been to lose;
>> > to fight is to win. We have kept faith with the past, and handed on a
>> > tradition to
>> > the future." Padraig Pearse, at court-martial on day before his murder,
>> > May2,1916.
>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> ************
>> > Email  : rayh(removeSPAM)@iol.ie : Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> ************
>>
>>
>
>
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:43:34 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
>>news:5bnl42F2ts1uuU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
>>> news:f358i2$fuc$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>> >
>>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
>>> > news:0U23i.21568$085.3221@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> >>
>>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>>be
>>> >> > made into
>>> >> > a film.
>>> >>
>>> >> fucking hell ray that wont last long then, he wasnt doing much was 
>>> >> he,
>>> > just
>>> >> laying there thinking of cream cakes
>>> >
>>> > always one to take a stab at the "taigs" eh Davey? Your act is so
>>fucking
>>> > pathetic..
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It will be the first feature for Turner Prize-winning artist Steve
>>> >> > McQueen, who
>>> >> > will co-write and direct the film.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > He said the production - called Hunger - would have "international
>>> >> > contemporary
>>> >> > resonance". It is due to be broadcast on Channel 4 next year.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sands, 27, committed suicide in Northern Ireland's Maze Prison in 
>>> >> > May
>>> >> > 1981, shortly after
>>> >> > being elected an MP.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Political protest
>>> >> >
>>> >> > McQueen said the phenomenon of the people using their bodies in
>>> > political
>>> >> > warfare was becoming more familiar.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "It is the final act of desperation, your own body is your last
>>> >> > resource
>>> >> > for
>>> >> > protest. One uses what one has, rightly or wrongly," he explained.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "What I want to convey is something you can't find in books or
>>archive,
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > ordinariness and extraordinariness of life in this prison.
>>> >>
>>> >> It was ashit hole, literally through the prisoners own actions
>>> >
>>> > Thatcher didn't fucking help matters either...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Yet also the film is an abstraction in a certain way, a meditation
>>on
>>> >> > what it
>>> >> > is like to die for a cause."
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The film will be shot in Northern Ireland.
>>> >>
>>> >> Who is doing the shooting as I thought sinnfein/ira had got rid of
>>their
>>> >> weapons.
>>> >
>>> > The LVF still have theirs apparently.. don't they?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Bobby Sands refused food for 66 days in a protest over political
>>status
>>> >> > for
>>> >> > republican prisoners in the Maze prison. He was the first of 10 men
>>to
>>> >> > die.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > This is good news!!!
>>> >>
>>> >> Thats not nice to say about bobby is it?
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sadly...  I knew about this story 5 days ago... and it was on the 
>>> >> > BBC
>>> > site
>>> >> > for 3
>>> >> > days and not one single "Republican" on SCI bothered to post it...
>>> > No...
>>> >> > One
>>> >> > was too busy posting pictures of him and Gerry and attacking me...
>>The
>>> >> > other...
>>> >> > <sigh>  Why bother...   Am I the only Republican that has real 
>>> >> > roots
>>in
>>> >> > the past
>>> >> > in Ireland damn well remembers these things?
>>> >>
>>> >> They wait for you to cut and paste ray as you are the sad one lol
>>> >
>>> > Fact is theres about a dozen movies about the hunger strikers out 
>>> > there.
>>> > "Some Mothers Son" is a particularly good one.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I remember just about 5 years or so ago...  The Republicans then on
>>> >> > here
>>> >> > were a
>>> >> > damn more organized and co-operated with each other...  We has
>>Loyalism
>>> > on
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > run and we exposed their racist and sectarian hatred for the whole
>>> >> > world
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > see... and how they hated us for it!!!  But we did what was right!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have to say...  I'm becoming very disillusioned with the current
>>> > "crop"
>>> >> > or
>>> >> > "republicans" and "nationalists" on SCI this last year or so......
>>> >> > They
>>> >> > do not
>>> >> > seem to want to co-ordinate posts or work behind the scenes to form 
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > strategy...   They, it seems to me, are more interested in ego
>>> >> > gratification
>>> >> > then working for the actual interests of Irish people trapped in 
>>> >> > the
>>6
>>> >> > occupied
>>> >> > counties of Ireland....
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sadly!  and I say again...  Sadly!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Apart from a couple of other posters...  The Nationalist/Republican
>>> > "side"
>>> >> > has
>>> >> > become fragmented and have become posters who's whole reason for
>>> >> > posting
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > little more then personal agendas...    Perhaps it's a game to you?
>>> > Not
>>> >> > to me,
>>> >> > Friend!  Not to me!!  Nor should it be to you!!
>>> >>
>>> >> why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Why did I use the announcement of the movie of the great Irish
>>> > Republican
>>> >> > Hero!
>>> >> > Bobby Sands to launch this critical post?
>>> >>
>>> >> Because you think you are so great
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Because it's the only way I hope to wake up the Republicans!  And
>>> >> > Nationalists!
>>> >> > To remind them of the seriousness of the situation in the six
>>counties
>>> > and
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > remind them of a time that us Republicans and Nationalists used to
>>> >> > co-operate
>>> >> > and work together on SCI to counter Brit Apologists and to expose
>>> > Unionist
>>> >> > racism and terrorism...  Tear off their mask as it were!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So one final appeal!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Lads... FFS!!! let us hang together or we'll hang separately...   I
>>> >> > know
>>> >> > it's an
>>> >> > old quote, but it's a true one...  Where is the... oh never mind...
>>If
>>> > you
>>> >> > don't
>>> >> > get it by now...  You simply never will!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Ray
>>> >> > (Irish and Republican and true - how about you)
>>> >>
>>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>>> >
>>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > James
>>> > aka
>>> > Commander Hughes
>>> >
>>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>>
>>> ROTFL!!
>>
>>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if 
>>you're
>>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.
>>
>>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in 
>>political
>>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.
>>
>>Hope I've cleared this up for you.
>
> Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
> I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
> it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
> support his Unionist view.
>
> There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
> Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.

Kettle...black call springs to mind boy
>
> CB
>
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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:44:44 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"Commander Hughes"  wrote in message 
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> "The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:26:36 GMT, "DAVID JONES"
>>  wrote:
>>
>> >"WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
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>>
>> <cut>
>>
>> >why not, we like winding the village idiot up
>>
>> The irony of it all...
>>
>> CB
>
> Every time I see a post from him, the village peoples YMCA tune starts up 
> in
> my head...
> See i told you so jimmy, you really are a nonce, you keep harping on about 
> it.
>
>
> James
> aka
> Commander Hughes
>
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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:45:37 GMT   author:   DAVID JONES

Re: Bobby Sands struggle for Irish Nationalism to be a movie   
"The Colonial Boy"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:22:38 +0100, "Commander Hughes"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."  wrote in message
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>>> "Commander Hughes"  wrote in message
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>>> >
>>> > "DAVID JONES"  wrote in message
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>>> >>
>>> >> "WhiteWolf <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>"  wrote in message
>>> >> news:4lcp43p7c069rerkhle3fdnmj72rbupk8k@4ax.com...
>>> >> > The last weeks in the life of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands are to
>>be
>>> >> > made into
>>> >> > a film.
>>> >>

.........."SNIP"...................

>>> >>
>>> >> Well get back to Irealnd then
>>> >
>>> > It's spelled "Ireland" Davey...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > James
>>> > aka
>>> > Commander Hughes
>>> >
>>> Well, HELLO James! Are you a Republican?
>>>
>>> ROTFL!!
>>
>>Well HELLO Hal, I am between Republican and Nationalist, although if 
>>you're
>>asking if I'm from the republic of Ireland then, yes, yes I am.

Thought so on both points.

>>
>>However on the other hand if you're asking if I'm a republican in 
>>political
>>terms, I prefer to just see myself as an Irishman.

Well? So are we all.

>>
>>Hope I've cleared this up for you.

Yes.
>
> Nothing can possibly clear up anything for our friend Harry Merrick,
> I'm afraid. He's made his mind up and nothing is going to shift
> it...he's even prepared to contradict himself in order to, he thinks,
> support his Unionist view.

ROTFL!! I am nothing if not consistant in fact. As for contradicting myself, 
Oh Really? - I don't think so!  I cannot be responsible for your bad 
understanding of the Queen's English, and sadly, I cannot speak Maori!

Oh, and yet again, I am NOT a Unionist. I am a Democrat and a Capitalist. 
Note the capitals!

>
> There are a few irrational posters in this newsgroup but, imho, Mr
> Merrick is the most blatantly so, in this newsgroup anyway.

HMM! Irrational eh? I don't believe so. You are, supposedly and claimed as 
such by yourself, a highly qualified person and very logical. Both, in my 
experience, completly incorrect. And "I" never tell lies either! You are 
indulging in ad hominem. TUT! TUT!

Far be it for me to gloat! BUT In the Irish election it seems Sinn Fein so 
far tonight have only got TWO seats! They are forecast to only end up with 
five seats! So much for progress, so much for over confidence. As I said in 
another post, the Irish people have far too much common sense to put in Sinn 
Fein even by mistake!