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date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 02:43:41 GMT,    group: uk.current-events.general        back       
Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
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AFP - Dec 1, 2007


Australia's Howard loses parliament seat

SYDNEY (AFP) - - The defeat of Australia's outgoing prime minister John 
Howard appeared complete Saturday when his opponent claimed victory in 
the parliamentary seat he had held for 33 years.

Howard's conservative government had already been tossed out by voters 
in elections last Saturday, but counting had continued for his own 
Sydney seat of Bennelong, which was too close to call.

With the tally of postal and other votes now almost complete, former 
television journalist Maxine McKew claimed the seat for the centre-left 
Labor Party led by prime minister-elect Kevin Rudd.

"One week after the polls opened I can now say that in Bennelong we are 
2,100 votes ahead, we have 51.25 per cent of the two-party vote, so we 
are comfortably ahead," McKew told reporters.

"I can formally say that Bennelong is now a Labor seat for the first time."

Howard, who had predicted he would lose the seat but has not yet 
formally conceded defeat, now faces the indignity of being the first 
prime minister in 78 years to lose in his own parliamentary electorate.

McKew said she was not disappointed that Howard had not formally 
relinquished the seat, noting that "Mr Howard and his family clearly had 
a huge amount to do this week" as they cleared out of their official 
residences.

"I would like to acknowledge John Howard's long years of public 
service," she added. "He gave 30 years to public life and that should be 
acknowledged."

                          ***

AAP - Dec 1, 2007

McKew claims victory in Bennelong

IT TOOK a week, but finally Labor newcomer Maxine McKew claimed 
Bennelong as her own. The political career of outgoing prime minister 
John Howard is officially over, with Ms McKew today making history by 
claiming victory in the northern Sydney seat.

Despite leading Mr Howard from the outset, Ms McKew had been reluctant 
to claim victory, repeatedly saying it was too close to call.

Even at her election function last Saturday in North Ryde, as her 
jubilant supporters screamed for her to call it, Ms McKew held back, 
saying Bennelong was on a knife edge.

But today at Gladesville Public School the former ABC journalist finally 
called Bennelong for Labor - the first time it has been out of Liberal 
hands since being established in 1949.

"One week after the polls opened I can now say that in Bennelong we are 
2,100 votes ahead, we have 51.25 per cent of the two party vote, so we 
are comfortably ahead,'' Ms McKew said.

"I can formally say that Bennelong is now a Labor seat for the first time.''

Her statement made official the end of Mr Howard's illustrious political 
career, which began in 1974 when he first won the seat.

It is only the second time in history that a sitting prime minister has 
lost his seat.

In a blot on his copybook, Mr Howard joins Stanley Melbourne Bruce, who 
was unceremoniously dumped in 1929.

Mr Howard has yet to officially concede the seat, however on election 
night last Saturday the outgoing PM admitted it was very likely he would 
lose his grip on Bennelong.

Ms McKew said she was not disappointed Mr Howard nor his office hadn't 
formally relinquished the electorate, instead paying tribute to his 33 
years in public office.

"Mr Howard and his family clearly had a huge amount to do this week,'' 
said Ms McKew, who on Thursday was named parliamentary secretary to the 
prime minister and cabinet.

"I would like to acknowledge John Howard's long years of public service 
- - he gave 30 years to public life.''

Ms McKew said she had been swept into office by a uniform swing to Labor 
in Bennelong, which showed many people in the electorate had voted for 
the party for the first time.

"We saw swings in every single booth bar one (and) we had an overall 
swing of five per cent,'' she said.

"To give you some idea of the scale of what the Labor Party has achieved 
in Bennelong, the primary vote at the 2004 election was around 28 per 
cent, our primary vote this time was around 44 to 45 per cent.

"That is a huge increase in Labor's primary vote ... and for me to see 
swings in places like Carlingford, Epping, Lyon Park and Eastwood ... 
tells me people have voted Labor for the first time.''

Ms McKew said some voters may have felt neglected by Mr Howard in recent 
years, causing them to change allegiances.

"There was definitely a little bit of cynicism, I have to say, at the 
high level of visibility of Mr Howard in recent months,'' Ms McKew said.

"People saw that as something of a contrast to what had gone before.''

She declined to comment on claims made by former treasurer Peter 
Costello, who last night said the coalition would have performed better 
had Mr Howard handed over power.

"The fact is that didn't happen and the Liberal Party are doing a lot of 
soul searching, but I'll leave them to do that,'' she said.

Ms McKew was "thrilled to bits'' with her appointment as a parliamentary 
secretary, saying her swearing in on Monday would be a "spectacular 
honour''.

She promised the voters of Bennelong an energetic and visible member.

"As I campaigned in Bennelong (I said) I would be a strong voice for 
Bennelong,'' Ms McKew said.

"That strong voice will be right there in the prime minister's office.

"They have this assurance from me that I will serve them as 
energetically, as conscientiously as I can over the next three years.''

Comment is being sought from Mr Howard.

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date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 02:43:41 GMT   author:   unknown

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
NY.Transfer.N...@blythe.org wrote:

<> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
Australia's Howard loses parliament seat
McKew claims victory in Bennelong

IT TOOK a week, but finally Labor newcomer Maxine McKew claimed
Bennelong as her own. The political career of outgoing prime minister
John Howard is officially over, with Ms McKew today making history by
claiming victory in the northern Sydney seat.

Despite leading Mr Howard from the outset, Ms McKew had been reluctant
to claim victory, repeatedly saying it was too close to call.

Even at her election function last Saturday in North Ryde, as her
jubilant supporters screamed for her to call it, Ms McKew held back,
saying Bennelong was on a knife edge.

But today at Gladesville Public School the former ABC journalist
finally
called Bennelong for Labor - the first time it has been out of Liberal
hands since being established in 1949.

"One week after the polls opened I can now say that in Bennelong we
are
2,100 votes ahead, we have 51.25 per cent of the two party vote, so we
are comfortably ahead,'' Ms McKew said.

"I can formally say that Bennelong is now a Labor seat for the first
time.''
<> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>


Quite a good riddance if I may say so. His political fate is finally
sealed.
May he rot in the hell of his own choosing.

Ördög (The friendly Hungarian Devil in service of aus.politics and
Usenet)
Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:26:16 -0800 (PST)   author:   Ördög

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
On Dec 2, 8:26 pm, "Ördög"  wrote:
> NY.Transfer.N...@blythe.org wrote:
>
> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
> Australia's Howard loses parliament seat
> McKew claims victory in Bennelong
>
> IT TOOK a week, but finally Labor newcomer Maxine McKew claimed
> Bennelong as her own. The political career of outgoing prime minister
> John Howard is officially over, with Ms McKew today making history by
> claiming victory in the northern Sydney seat.
>
> Despite leading Mr Howard from the outset, Ms McKew had been reluctant
> to claim victory, repeatedly saying it was too close to call.
>
> Even at her election function last Saturday in North Ryde, as her
> jubilant supporters screamed for her to call it, Ms McKew held back,
> saying Bennelong was on a knife edge.
>
> But today at Gladesville Public School the former ABC journalist
> finally
> called Bennelong for Labor - the first time it has been out of Liberal
> hands since being established in 1949.
>
> "One week after the polls opened I can now say that in Bennelong we
> are
> 2,100 votes ahead, we have 51.25 per cent of the two party vote, so we
> are comfortably ahead,'' Ms McKew said.
>
> "I can formally say that Bennelong is now a Labor seat for the first
> time.''
> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
>
> Quite a good riddance if I may say so. His political fate is finally
> sealed.
> May he rot in the hell of his own choosing.
>
> Ördög (The friendly Hungarian Devil in service of aus.politics and
> Usenet)
> Either the neocons go or civilisation does!

Your a bitter little cave dweller aren't you DOG.

Howard was a top bloke and a PM who will go down in history of one of
if not the greatest.

From under that little rock where you live the sum of your life
achievements wouldn't amount to the shit on the sole of John Howard's
Joggers!
date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 03:02:05 -0800 (PST)   author:   unknown

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
mosherkus...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Dec 2, 8:26 pm, "?rd?g"  wrote:
> > NY.Transfer.N...@blythe.org wrote:
> >
> > <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
> > Australia's Howard loses parliament seat
> > McKew claims victory in Bennelong
> >
> > IT TOOK a week, but finally Labor newcomer Maxine McKew claimed
> > Bennelong as her own. The political career of outgoing prime minister
> > John Howard is officially over, with Ms McKew today making history by
> > claiming victory in the northern Sydney seat.
> >
> > Despite leading Mr Howard from the outset, Ms McKew had been reluctant
> > to claim victory, repeatedly saying it was too close to call.
> >
> > Even at her election function last Saturday in North Ryde, as her
> > jubilant supporters screamed for her to call it, Ms McKew held back,
> > saying Bennelong was on a knife edge.
> >
> > But today at Gladesville Public School the former ABC journalist
> > finally
> > called Bennelong for Labor - the first time it has been out of Liberal
> > hands since being established in 1949.
> >
> > "One week after the polls opened I can now say that in Bennelong we
> > are
> > 2,100 votes ahead, we have 51.25 per cent of the two party vote, so we
> > are comfortably ahead,'' Ms McKew said.
> >
> > "I can formally say that Bennelong is now a Labor seat for the first
> > time.''
> > <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
> >
> > Quite a good riddance if I may say so. His political fate is finally
> > sealed.
> > May he rot in the hell of his own choosing.
> >
> > ?rd?g (The friendly Hungarian Devil in service of aus.politics and
> > Usenet)
> > Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
>
> Your a bitter little cave dweller aren't you DOG.
>
> Howard was a top bloke and a PM who will go down in history of one of
> if not the greatest.
>
> From under that little rock where you live the sum of your life
> achievements wouldn't amount to the shit on the sole of John Howard's
> Joggers!
****************************************************
John Howard WAS the shit on the sole of his joggers.
***************************************************
date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 03:52:47 -0800 (PST)   author:   Benway

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
mosh puts on his best Xtian loving charm:
> "Ördög" wrote:

<> Australia's Howard loses parliament seat.....

> > Quite a good riddance if I may say so. His political fate is finally
> > sealed.
> > May he rot in the hell of his own choosing.

> Your a bitter little cave dweller aren't you DOG.

Cave dweller?
Not quite. But you are indeed not too far off the mark. I am a
speleologist among other things.

As to the dog bit.....Actually what do you have against man's best
friend?

> Howard was a top bloke and a PM who will go down in history of one of
> if not the greatest.

Sure. I suppose next you'll insist that Jack the Ripper was a great
humanist....

> From under that little rock where you live the sum of your life
> achievements wouldn't amount to the shit on the sole of John Howard's
> Joggers!

Let me see.....

TAMPA, never ever GST, Iraq War with up to a million deaths, FTA
screwing Australian small to medium businesses and the little
battlers, AWB scandal, AWAs, nepotism, plutocracy, lies, hypocrisy,
megalomania.........Anything else I left out?

And as a contrast:
Coagulation research, prostate cancer and ovarian carcinoma research,
drug development, palliative care, biochemical research techniques,
teaching, scientific publications, biospeleological expeditions.,
etc.....

You know what? I think at least my life has not increased human
suffering.

Ördög
Idolatry
 The art of government is the organisation of idolatry.
...
 When the wooden idol does not answer the peasant's prayer, he beats
it:
when the flesh and blood idol does not satisfy the civilized man,
he cuts its head off.
 He who slays a king and he who dies for him are alike idolaters.

Man and Superman
Bernard Shaw
###
date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:03:15 -0800 (PST)   author:   Ördög

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:03:15 -0800 (PST), "Ördög"
 wrote:

>Let me see.....
>
>TAMPA, never ever GST, Iraq War with up to a million deaths, 

i wonder if that is your dishonesty or innumeracy....

>And as a contrast:
>Coagulation research, prostate cancer and ovarian carcinoma research,
>drug development, palliative care, biochemical research techniques,
>teaching, scientific publications, biospeleological expeditions.,
>etc.....

you can't be much good at it as you can't count

good job you have people like howard to protect your cosy cocoon

-- 
web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics 
 energy, education, politics, etc 1,552,396 document calls in year past
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  all that is necessary for       []     walk quietly and carry
  the triumph of evil is that      []           a big stick.
  good people do nothing     []   trust actions not words
                    only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:50:07 +0100   author:   abelard

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
abelard tries hard to implement strawmen:
>  "Ördög" wrote:
> >Let me see.....
> >TAMPA, never ever GST, Iraq War with up to a million deaths,

> i wonder if that is your dishonesty or innumeracy....

Neither. If my estimated figure is not quite accurate blame it on the
USA which ignores civilian casualties in Iraq.
BTW tell me what is the Xtian moralistic difference between killing
off 400K, 600K, 750K or 1 M innocent civilians??? Yep, US delivered
democracy dead or alive.......as it stands mostly dead.

> >And as a contrast:
> >Coagulation research, prostate cancer and ovarian carcinoma research,
> >drug development, palliative care, biochemical research techniques,
> >teaching, scientific publications, biospeleological expeditions.,
> >etc.....

> you can't be much good at it .......

I suppose you are quite certain that you'll never have prostate
troubles.
Think of me when you end up being wrong.
Or would you prefer visiting a witch doctor instead? Castration would
do the trick too. With a blunt implement?

> good job you have people like howard to protect your cosy cocoon

Wrong. The lying rodent is history and his retarded mates are at each
others throats going for the jugular.
Since they are otherwise busy I can finally sleep well at night, not
having to worry about their kind of "protection". LOL

Australia is a lot safer place than it was just over a week ago.

Ördög
###
Idolatry
 The art of government is the organisation of idolatry.
...
 When the wooden idol does not answer the peasant's prayer, he beats
it:
when the flesh and blood idol does not satisfy the civilized man,
he cuts its head off.
 He who slays a king and he who dies for him are alike idolaters.

Man and Superman
Bernard Shaw
###
date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:27:57 -0800 (PST)   author:   Ördög

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:27:57 -0800 (PST), "Ördög"
 wrote:

>abelard tries hard to implement strawmen:
>>  "Ördög" wrote:
>> >Let me see.....
>> >TAMPA, never ever GST, Iraq War with up to a million deaths,
>
>> i wonder if that is your dishonesty or innumeracy....
>
>Neither. If my estimated figure is not quite accurate

'not quite accurate' means dishonest lies
rbu

> blame it on the
>USA which ignores civilian casualties in Iraq.
>BTW tell me what is the Xtian moralistic difference between killing
>off 400K, 600K, 750K or 1 M innocent civilians??? Yep, US delivered
>democracy dead or alive.......as it stands mostly dead.
>
>> >And as a contrast:
>> >Coagulation research, prostate cancer and ovarian carcinoma research,
>> >drug development, palliative care, biochemical research techniques,
>> >teaching, scientific publications, biospeleological expeditions.,
>> >etc.....
>
>> you can't be much good at it .......
>
>I suppose you are quite certain that you'll never have prostate
>troubles.
>Think of me when you end up being wrong.
>Or would you prefer visiting a witch doctor instead? Castration would
>do the trick too. With a blunt implement?
>
>> good job you have people like howard to protect your cosy cocoon
>
>Wrong. The lying rodent is history and his retarded mates are at each
>others throats going for the jugular.
>Since they are otherwise busy I can finally sleep well at night, not
>having to worry about their kind of "protection". LOL
>
>Australia is a lot safer place than it was just over a week ago.
>
>Ördög
>###
>Idolatry
> The art of government is the organisation of idolatry.
>...
> When the wooden idol does not answer the peasant's prayer, he beats
>it:
>when the flesh and blood idol does not satisfy the civilized man,
>he cuts its head off.
> He who slays a king and he who dies for him are alike idolaters.
>
>Man and Superman
>Bernard Shaw
>###

-- 
web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics 
 energy, education, politics, etc 1,552,396 document calls in year past
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  all that is necessary for       []     walk quietly and carry
  the triumph of evil is that      []           a big stick.
  good people do nothing     []   trust actions not words
                    only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:57:50 +0100   author:   abelard

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
abelard grabs for straws:

"Ördög" wrote:

> 'not quite accurate' means dishonest lies

Really?

Thanks for agreeing with me that the USA is quite
di wrote:shonest in not adding up the accurate
cost in human lives of their Iraq intervention...

Ördög
###
Idolatry
 The art of government is the organisation of idolatry.
...
 When the wooden idol does not answer the peasant's prayer, he beats
it:
when the flesh and blood idol does not satisfy the civilized man,
he cuts its head off.
 He who slays a king and he who dies for him are alike idolaters.

Man and Superman
Bernard Shaw
###
date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:05:05 -0800 (PST)   author:   Ördög

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
abelard etc......

sorry for the copy and paste error above...
Here is the corrected version:

<> abelard grabs for straws:
<> > 'not quite accurate' means dishonest lies
<>
<> Really?

<> Thanks for agreeing with me that the USA is not adding up the
accurate
<> cost in human lives of their Iraq intervention...


Ördög
###
Idolatry
 The art of government is the organisation of idolatry.
...
 When the wooden idol does not answer the peasant's prayer, he beats
it:
when the flesh and blood idol does not satisfy the civilized man,
he cuts its head off.
 He who slays a king and he who dies for him are alike idolaters.

Man and Superman
Bernard Shaw
###
date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:11:11 -0800 (PST)   author:   Ördög

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
On Dec 3, 8:03 am, "Ördög"  wrote:
> mosh puts on his best Xtian loving charm:
>
> > "Ördög" wrote:
>
> <> Australia's Howard loses parliament seat.....
>
> > > Quite a good riddance if I may say so. His political fate is finally
> > > sealed.
> > > May he rot in the hell of his own choosing.
> > Your a bitter little cave dweller aren't you DOG.
>
> Cave dweller?
> Not quite. But you are indeed not too far off the mark. I am a
> speleologist among other things.
>
> As to the dog bit.....Actually what do you have against man's best
> friend?
>
> > Howard was a top bloke and a PM who will go down in history of one of
> > if not the greatest.
>
> Sure. I suppose next you'll insist that Jack the Ripper was a great
> humanist....
>
> > From under that little rock where you live the sum of your life
> > achievements wouldn't amount to the shit on the sole of John Howard's
> > Joggers!
>
> Let me see.....
>
> TAMPA, never ever GST, Iraq War with up to a million deaths, FTA
> screwing Australian small to medium businesses and the little
> battlers, AWB scandal, AWAs, nepotism, plutocracy, lies, hypocrisy,
> megalomania.........Anything else I left out?
>
> And as a contrast:
> Coagulation research, prostate cancer and ovarian carcinoma research,
> drug development, palliative care, biochemical research techniques,
> teaching, scientific publications, biospeleological expeditions.,
> etc.....
>
> You know what? I think at least my life has not increased human
> suffering.
>
> Ördög
> Idolatry
>  The art of government is the organisation of idolatry.
> ...
>  When the wooden idol does not answer the peasant's prayer, he beats
> it:
> when the flesh and blood idol does not satisfy the civilized man,
> he cuts its head off.
>  He who slays a king and he who dies for him are alike idolaters.
>
> Man and Superman
> Bernard Shaw
> ###

Ordog,
Cleaning a few test tubes does not a cure for cancer make.
Mosher
date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:19:36 -0800 (PST)   author:   unknown

Re: Australia's Howard loses parliament seat   
mosh tries harder but sadly fails again........
> "Ördög"  wrote:

> > You know what? I think at least my life has not increased human
> > suffering.

> Ordog,
> Cleaning a few test tubes does not a cure for cancer make.

Is this your best effort? Pathetic really!

I am glad you have shown the extent of your ignorance about the world
of science.
I recommend therefore the witch doctor and the two bricks castration
technique for you in case your prostate starts acting up.

Mosh, Mosh. Silly of you not reading fully my replies....

Ördög
###
Idolatry
 The art of government is the organisation of idolatry.
...
 When the wooden idol does not answer the peasant's prayer, he beats
it:
when the flesh and blood idol does not satisfy the civilized man,
he cuts its head off.
 He who slays a king and he who dies for him are alike idolaters.

Man and Superman
Bernard Shaw
###
date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 02:06:27 -0800 (PST)   author:   Ördög

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