There's a Web page headed "Learnglish" that has a huge number of
alt.usage.english postings that are offered without, so far as I've
found, giving any credit to alt.usage.english.  The author of each
posting is shown, but the names have been stripped from the
intermediate attributions.  

They try to give the impression that the discussions they've
appropriated have taken place in forums at their Web site.
One "forum" consists of a very long 2003 thread about the
pronunciations [A:], [A.], and [O:].  (The second posting in the list
has Peter Moylan saying "Heads down, everyone; here comes another CINC
thread".)

I don't think the plagiarizers have done anything illegal, since
alt.usage.english postings are effectively public domain, but it
certainly seems to me their plagiarization without giving credit to
the newsgroups they've helped themselves from is seriously unethical. 
The [A:] et al page is at http://tinyurl.com/6enbha *,  A list of
links to their "latest forum postings" is at
http://www.learnglish.com/ .  The "forums" I looked at were more
wholesale liftings from alt.usage.english and from
uk.culture.language.english.  On that page is a link to "Terms of
Use", and a link to "Contact us".

*
http://www.learnglish.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/english/1082/ah-ar-aw-or-aw-ah-ar

"Heronerous Boss"  wrote in message 
news:7jcvc4l8p7sqj9bb3fndmto5132comhd9g@4ax.com...
>
> There's a Web page headed "Learnglish" that has a huge number of
> alt.usage.english postings that are offered without, so far as I've
> found, giving any credit to alt.usage.english.  The author of each
> posting is shown, but the names have been stripped from the
> intermediate attributions.
>
> They try to give the impression that the discussions they've
> appropriated have taken place in forums at their Web site.
> One "forum" consists of a very long 2003 thread about the
> pronunciations [A:], [A.], and [O:].  (The second posting in the list
> has Peter Moylan saying "Heads down, everyone; here comes another CINC
> thread".)
>
> I don't think the plagiarizers have done anything illegal, since
> alt.usage.english postings are effectively public domain, but it
> certainly seems to me their plagiarization without giving credit to
> the newsgroups they've helped themselves from is seriously unethical.
> The [A:] et al page is at http://tinyurl.com/6enbha *,  A list of
> links to their "latest forum postings" is at
> http://www.learnglish.com/ .  The "forums" I looked at were more
> wholesale liftings from alt.usage.english and from
> uk.culture.language.english.  On that page is a link to "Terms of
> Use", and a link to "Contact us".
>
> *
> http://www.learnglish.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/english/1082/ah-ar-aw-or-aw-ah-ar

This is pretty common, and you have to understand that Usenet is slowly 
disappearing being replaced by the http. In fact they provide access to lots 
of interesting things said on the Usenet to the majority of the Internet 
users.

> Heronerous Boss wrote

>
>There's a Web page headed "Learnglish" that has a huge number of
>alt.usage.english postings that are offered without, so far as I've
>found, giving any credit to alt.usage.english.  The author of each
>posting is shown, but the names have been stripped from the
>intermediate attributions.  
>
>They try to give the impression that the discussions they've
>appropriated have taken place in forums at their Web site.
>One "forum" consists of a very long 2003 thread about the
>pronunciations [A:], [A.], and [O:].  (The second posting in the list
>has Peter Moylan saying "Heads down, everyone; here comes another CINC
>thread".)
>
>I don't think the plagiarizers have done anything illegal, since
>alt.usage.english postings are effectively public domain, but it
>certainly seems to me their plagiarization without giving credit to
>the newsgroups they've helped themselves from is seriously unethical. 
>The [A:] et al page is at http://tinyurl.com/6enbha *,  A list of
>links to their "latest forum postings" is at
>http://www.learnglish.com/ .  The "forums" I looked at were more
>wholesale liftings from alt.usage.english and from
>uk.culture.language.english.  On that page is a link to "Terms of
>Use", and a link to "Contact us".
>
>*
>http://www.learnglish.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/english/1082/ah-ar-aw-or-aw-ah-ar
>

Meanwhile the so-called 'ESL Teaching' forum is a verbatum lifting of
misc.education.language.english (used to be a good group, now moribund).

>

Cheeky f***ers.

Her, you'll be interested to know your posting has already appeared on the
Learnglish site.  As presumably this one will, so...

Woo ho?  Learnglish?  Your website's nothing but a load of forum postings
cobbled together from other sources!  How tacky is that?

DC
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> Django Cat wrote

>From: "Django Cat" 
>Subject: Re: Learnglish
>Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:42:38 GMT
>Newsgroups: alt.usage.english,uk.culture.language.english
>
>> Heronerous Boss wrote
>
>>
>>There's a Web page headed "Learnglish" that has a huge number of
>>alt.usage.english postings that are offered without, so far as I've
>>found, giving any credit to alt.usage.english.  The author of each
>>posting is shown, but the names have been stripped from the
>>intermediate attributions.  
>>
>>They try to give the impression that the discussions they've
>>appropriated have taken place in forums at their Web site.
>>One "forum" consists of a very long 2003 thread about the
>>pronunciations [A:], [A.], and [O:].  (The second posting in the list
>>has Peter Moylan saying "Heads down, everyone; here comes another CINC
>>thread".)
>>
>>I don't think the plagiarizers have done anything illegal, since
>>alt.usage.english postings are effectively public domain, but it
>>certainly seems to me their plagiarization without giving credit to
>>the newsgroups they've helped themselves from is seriously unethical. 
>>The [A:] et al page is at http://tinyurl.com/6enbha *,  A list of
>>links to their "latest forum postings" is at
>>http://www.learnglish.com/ .  The "forums" I looked at were more
>>wholesale liftings from alt.usage.english and from
>>uk.culture.language.english.  On that page is a link to "Terms of
>>Use", and a link to "Contact us".
>>
>>*
>>http://www.learnglish.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/english/1082/ah-ar-aw-or-aw-ah-ar
>>
>
>Meanwhile the so-called 'ESL Teaching' forum is a verbatum lifting of
>misc.education.language.english (used to be a good group, now moribund).
>
>>
>
>Cheeky f***ers.
>
>Her, you'll be interested to know your posting has already appeared on the
>Learnglish site.  As presumably this one will
>

>

Spot on.  Cor, they update quick.

DC
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