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date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:04:56 -0700 (PDT),
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Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
I remember at school there was a combined
volume of "Billy Liar" and "The Loneliness of
The Long Distance Runner" ubiquitous to the
"English Rooms". I thought the latter to be
the better story, better written; but Billy Liar
had been made into a film and it should be a
good preparation for comparing films to books
in what would now be our GCSE curriculum,
so it got both read-aloud, and screened, in front
of an audience.
One reason, perhaps, was its "satire" of the
medallion-sporting down-to-earth traditional
business type - Councillor Duxbury - as well
as its use of localish accents, including made
up dialect, and it being written by a localish
writer.
Certainly the character Shadrach, co-patron
of Shadrach and Duxbury funeral services, had
an affected Home Counties elision toward
understating syllables into diphthongs with
the repeated use of "vair" as an intensifier in
adjectivals - "vair" = "very" for those unfamiliar
with the texts, though any subtle allusions or
perpendiculars to Cinderella-style fairy stories
were, and indeed remain, lost on me.
Oranges do figure prominently though, and
certainly the dusty, harsh sunlight of the
fundamentalist assembly hall in Oranges
Are Not The Only Fruit, which followed it
some two decades or so later draws from
observations on comparable proprieties in
places.
But he was influential, and not just in The Regions,
was Willis Hall, who later went on to adapt
Barbara Euphan Todd's Worzel Gummidge
series of insufferably anachronistic everyday
children fairly well for a 1980s audience, and who
also wrote Billy Liar (IIRC).
And television being less a case of who you know
these days, as old Jezza insists, as who you can
interest, Billy Liar's synchronicity with the emerging
Science Fiction light drama Dr WHO amid a rapidly-
changing society in which the firmest bastions of
propriety romped with the most radical agents of
persistent tradition dressed up as change in Swinging
London, we're told.
Certainly Modern Mathematics was hitting schools
all over the place, and the Reithian values of a
bow-tie for the evening news called into question.
It was even the era in which The Queen's English
was formally identified as a dialect with accent,
and the prospect of worldwide, possibly eventual
cosmic, galactic and universal localised broadcasting
was muted over port, cigars and loosened ties
in the footlit halls of prestige Universities where
exciting new opportunities to make use of propagatory
media to achieve philosophical and economic ends
were no doubt debated with gusto with a sneaky
insecurity about the fact the blighters might know
some Marxian counter-ideals, in Scotland.
But the collapsed diphthong - in which a diphthong
is formed to provide minimal phonetic cues to a
longer word - from Billy Liar does, still, come over
as an, albeit affected, social semiotic pertaining
to the dignity and responsibility of assumed social
status. It reminds me of Solihull, Cholmondley,
Bicester and Featherstonehaugh simultaneously;
all pronunciations a reliable acculturated BBC anchor
or links man would be expected to know off pat
and deliver without missing a beat.
As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
this element is perhaps given the prominence it
deserves.
Just let us not forget two languages have officially
died this year alone already, and that's only because
they had brief notes about them published in some
journal or other prior to this happening--the ones we
don't know about we are in danger of exterminating
far past the point of lexical vestigiality, thugs that
we are.
G DAEB
COPYRIGHT (C) 2008 SIPSTON
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date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:04:56 -0700 (PDT)
author: FCS
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
FCS wrote:
> As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
> widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
> drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
> hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
> refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
> this element is perhaps given the prominence it
> deserves.
The Daleks were named so because Terry Nation looked at his copies of
Encyclopedia Britannica and saw that one volume was labelled "DAL-LEK".
--
Enzo
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:49:18 +0100
author: Enzo Matrix
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
"Enzo Matrix" wrote in message
news:6hiu14Fm0cegU1@mid.individual.net...
> FCS wrote:
>
>> As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
>> widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
>> drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
>> hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
>> refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
>> this element is perhaps given the prominence it
>> deserves.
>
> The Daleks were named so because Terry Nation looked at his copies of
> Encyclopedia Britannica and saw that one volume was labelled "DAL-LEK".
Myth!
http://www.whoniverse.org/monsters/daleks.php
"'They were named after a set of encyclopedias' - At the time, writer Terry
Nation told the press that he named them after an encyclopedia labelled
DAL-LEK, but in fact he simply made up the name."
Cheers
Jeff
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:53:54 +0200
author: Jeff Lawrence
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
Jeff Lawrence wrote:
> "Enzo Matrix" wrote in message
> news:6hiu14Fm0cegU1@mid.individual.net...
>> FCS wrote:
>>
>>> As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
>>> widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
>>> drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
>>> hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
>>> refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
>>> this element is perhaps given the prominence it
>>> deserves.
>>
>> The Daleks were named so because Terry Nation looked at his copies of
>> Encyclopedia Britannica and saw that one volume was labelled
>> "DAL-LEK".
>
> Myth!
> http://www.whoniverse.org/monsters/daleks.php
> "'They were named after a set of encyclopedias' - At the time, writer
> Terry Nation told the press that he named them after an encyclopedia
> labelled DAL-LEK, but in fact he simply made up the name."
Well... if Terry says it was so but later retracted the story then his
credibility is shot. Who knows *what* to believe? :-D
--
Enzo
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:00:04 +0100
author: Enzo Matrix
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
"Enzo Matrix" wrote in message
news:6hiulbFmfi4rU1@mid.individual.net...
> Jeff Lawrence wrote:
>> "Enzo Matrix" wrote in message
>> news:6hiu14Fm0cegU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> FCS wrote:
>>>
>>>> As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
>>>> widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
>>>> drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
>>>> hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
>>>> refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
>>>> this element is perhaps given the prominence it
>>>> deserves.
>>>
>>> The Daleks were named so because Terry Nation looked at his copies of
>>> Encyclopedia Britannica and saw that one volume was labelled
>>> "DAL-LEK".
>>
>> Myth!
>> http://www.whoniverse.org/monsters/daleks.php
>> "'They were named after a set of encyclopedias' - At the time, writer
>> Terry Nation told the press that he named them after an encyclopedia
>> labelled DAL-LEK, but in fact he simply made up the name."
>
> Well... if Terry says it was so but later retracted the story then his
> credibility is shot. Who knows *what* to believe? :-D
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:10:32 GMT
author: gavin
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
In article
,
FCS writes:
<snip>
>But he was influential, and not just in The Regions,
>was Willis Hall, who later went on to adapt
>Barbara Euphan Todd's Worzel Gummidge
>series of insufferably anachronistic everyday
>children fairly well for a 1980s audience, and who
>also wrote Billy Liar (IIRC).
<snip>
You remember incorrectly. "Billy Liar" was written by Keith Waterhouse.
--
John Hall
"Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history
that man can never learn anything from history."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:14:28 +0100
author: John Hall
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
"gavin" wrote in message
news:rGXsk.367320$o12.118681@fe03.news.easynews.com...
>
> "Enzo Matrix" wrote in message
> news:6hiulbFmfi4rU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Jeff Lawrence wrote:
>>> "Enzo Matrix" wrote in message
>>> news:6hiu14Fm0cegU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> FCS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
>>>>> widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
>>>>> drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
>>>>> hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
>>>>> refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
>>>>> this element is perhaps given the prominence it
>>>>> deserves.
>>>>
>>>> The Daleks were named so because Terry Nation looked at his copies of
>>>> Encyclopedia Britannica and saw that one volume was labelled
>>>> "DAL-LEK".
>>>
>>> Myth!
>>> http://www.whoniverse.org/monsters/daleks.php
>>> "'They were named after a set of encyclopedias' - At the time, writer
>>> Terry Nation told the press that he named them after an encyclopedia
>>> labelled DAL-LEK, but in fact he simply made up the name."
>>
>> Well... if Terry says it was so but later retracted the story then his
>> credibility is shot. Who knows *what* to believe? :-D
Ooops - hit the wrong keys!
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:20:40 GMT
author: gavin
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
Enzo Matrix wrote:
> FCS wrote:
>
>> As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
>> widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
>> drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
>> hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
>> refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
>> this element is perhaps given the prominence it
>> deserves.
>
> The Daleks were named so because Terry Nation looked at his copies of
> Encyclopedia Britannica and saw that one volume was labelled
> "DAL-LEK".
DAL-EK - except that it wasn't Britannica, and I have never found an
encyclopaedia with such a label. I think we have to conclude that it is a
myth.
--
John Briggs
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:24:08 +0100
author: John Briggs
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
John Briggs wrote:
> Enzo Matrix wrote:
>> FCS wrote:
>>
>>> As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
>>> widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
>>> drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
>>> hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
>>> refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
>>> this element is perhaps given the prominence it
>>> deserves.
>>
>> The Daleks were named so because Terry Nation looked at his copies of
>> Encyclopedia Britannica and saw that one volume was labelled
>> "DAL-LEK".
>
> DAL-EK - except that it wasn't Britannica, and I have never found an
> encyclopaedia with such a label. I think we have to conclude that it
> is a myth.
Don't care. It's a nice story! :-D
"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
--
Enzo
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:27:23 +0100
author: Enzo Matrix
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
John Hall wrote:
> In article
> ,
> FCS writes:
> <snip>
>> But he was influential, and not just in The Regions,
>> was Willis Hall, who later went on to adapt
>> Barbara Euphan Todd's Worzel Gummidge
>> series of insufferably anachronistic everyday
>> children fairly well for a 1980s audience, and who
>> also wrote Billy Liar (IIRC).
> <snip>
>
> You remember incorrectly. "Billy Liar" was written by Keith
> Waterhouse.
Willis Hall co-wrote the play (credited as co-writer after Waterhouse) and
TV series, and is credited as primary co-writer of the film screenplay.
--
John Briggs
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:31:03 +0100
author: John Briggs
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
"Enzo Matrix" wrote in message
news:6hiulbFmfi4rU1@mid.individual.net...
> Jeff Lawrence wrote:
>> "Enzo Matrix" wrote in message
>> news:6hiu14Fm0cegU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> FCS wrote:
>>>
>>>> As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
>>>> widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
>>>> drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
>>>> hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
>>>> refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
>>>> this element is perhaps given the prominence it
>>>> deserves.
>>>
>>> The Daleks were named so because Terry Nation looked at his copies of
>>> Encyclopedia Britannica and saw that one volume was labelled
>>> "DAL-LEK".
>>
>> Myth!
>> http://www.whoniverse.org/monsters/daleks.php
>> "'They were named after a set of encyclopedias' - At the time, writer
>> Terry Nation told the press that he named them after an encyclopedia
>> labelled DAL-LEK, but in fact he simply made up the name."
>
> Well... if Terry says it was so but later retracted the story then his
> credibility is shot. Who knows *what* to believe? :-D
Apparently he wanted to make it "more romantic". I always thought it was an
acronym.
Cheers
Jeff
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:23:26 +0200
author: Jeff Lawrence
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
John Hall wrote:
> In article
> ,
> FCS writes:
> <snip>
>> But he was influential, and not just in The Regions,
>> was Willis Hall, who later went on to adapt
>> Barbara Euphan Todd's Worzel Gummidge
>> series of insufferably anachronistic everyday
>> children fairly well for a 1980s audience, and who
>> also wrote Billy Liar (IIRC).
> <snip>
>
> You remember incorrectly. "Billy Liar" was written by Keith
> Waterhouse.
Worzel Gummidge was also a collaboration with Waterhouse.
You would have done better to query the grammatical structure of that
sentence :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:46:44 +0100
author: John Briggs
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
FCS wrote:
>
> But the collapsed diphthong - in which a diphthong
> is formed to provide minimal phonetic cues to a
> longer word - from Billy Liar does, still, come over
> as an, albeit affected, social semiotic pertaining
> to the dignity and responsibility of assumed social
> status. It reminds me of Solihull, Cholmondley,
> Bicester and Featherstonehaugh simultaneously;
> all pronunciations a reliable acculturated BBC anchor
> or links man would be expected to know off pat
> and deliver without missing a beat.
"Featherstonehaugh" is a myth.
--
John Briggs
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:51:46 +0100
author: John Briggs
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
FCS wrote:
>
> But he was influential, and not just in The Regions,
> was Willis Hall, who later went on to adapt
> Barbara Euphan Todd's Worzel Gummidge
> series of insufferably anachronistic everyday
> children fairly well for a 1980s audience, and who
> also wrote Billy Liar (IIRC).
Willis Hall is probably best known for "The Long and the Short and the
Tall", although the film screenplay is credited to Wolf Mankowitz (Willis
Hall credited for "Additional dialogue" - there must be a story there...)
and the director was Barry Norman's father.
--
John Briggs
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:56:07 +0100
author: John Briggs
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:00:04 +0100, "Enzo Matrix"
wrote:
>Jeff Lawrence wrote:
>> "Enzo Matrix" wrote in message
>> news:6hiu14Fm0cegU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> FCS wrote:
>>>
>>>> As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
>>>> widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
>>>> drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
>>>> hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
>>>> refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
>>>> this element is perhaps given the prominence it
>>>> deserves.
>>>
>>> The Daleks were named so because Terry Nation looked at his copies of
>>> Encyclopedia Britannica and saw that one volume was labelled
>>> "DAL-LEK".
>>
>> Myth!
>> http://www.whoniverse.org/monsters/daleks.php
>> "'They were named after a set of encyclopedias' - At the time, writer
>> Terry Nation told the press that he named them after an encyclopedia
>> labelled DAL-LEK, but in fact he simply made up the name."
>
>Well... if Terry says it was so but later retracted the story then his
>credibility is shot. Who knows *what* to believe? :-D
Surely the inventor of the Daleks is entitled to use a Tardis to
travel back in time to change the origin of the name?
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.culture.language.english)
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:16:13 +0100
author: Peter Duncanson
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
In article <JZXsk.1659$Ff2.510@newsfe13.ams2>,
John Briggs writes:
>John Hall wrote:
>> In article
>> ,
>> FCS writes:
>> <snip>
>>> But he was influential, and not just in The Regions,
>>> was Willis Hall, who later went on to adapt
>>> Barbara Euphan Todd's Worzel Gummidge
>>> series of insufferably anachronistic everyday
>>> children fairly well for a 1980s audience, and who
>>> also wrote Billy Liar (IIRC).
>> <snip>
>>
>> You remember incorrectly. "Billy Liar" was written by Keith
>> Waterhouse.
>
>Willis Hall co-wrote the play (credited as co-writer after Waterhouse)
>and TV series, and is credited as primary co-writer of the film
>screenplay.
Thanks. I was thinking of the novel.
--
John Hall
"Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history
that man can never learn anything from history."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:21:44 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
In article <tdYsk.2076$Ff2.916@newsfe13.ams2>,
John Briggs writes:
>John Hall wrote:
>> In article
>> ,
>> FCS writes:
>> <snip>
>>> But he was influential, and not just in The Regions,
>>> was Willis Hall, who later went on to adapt
>>> Barbara Euphan Todd's Worzel Gummidge
>>> series of insufferably anachronistic everyday
>>> children fairly well for a 1980s audience, and who
>>> also wrote Billy Liar (IIRC).
>> <snip>
>>
>> You remember incorrectly. "Billy Liar" was written by Keith
>> Waterhouse.
>
>Worzel Gummidge was also a collaboration with Waterhouse.
>
>You would have done better to query the grammatical structure of that
>sentence :-)
Life's too short to attempt to correct FCS's grammar. :)
--
John Hall
"Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history
that man can never learn anything from history."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:23:00 +0100
author: John Hall
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
In article , enzo55@hotmail.com
says...
> FCS wrote:
>
> > As such, and if there is a link between "Daleks" and
> > widespread post-war fears of robotic, programmed
> > drones burdened with limited and monotonous, if
> > hysterical, language capabilities, then can anyone
> > refer me to any satires of Dr WHO itself in which
> > this element is perhaps given the prominence it
> > deserves.
>
> The Daleks were named so because Terry Nation looked at his copies of
> Encyclopedia Britannica and saw that one volume was labelled "DAL-LEK".
Bpllocks. That myth was debumked in the 10th-anniversary magazine, in
1973.
--
SAm.
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:42:49 +0100
author: Sam Nelson
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
In article <e4e096db-b2b8-414f-8648-
3a13cc46639a@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, sipston_777@my-deja.com says...
> But the collapsed diphthong - in which a diphthong
> is formed to provide minimal phonetic cues to a
> longer word - from Billy Liar does, still, come over
> as an, albeit affected, social semiotic pertaining
> to the dignity and responsibility of assumed social
> status. It reminds me of Solihull, Cholmondley,
> Bicester and Featherstonehaugh simultaneously;
> all pronunciations a reliable acculturated BBC anchor
> or links man would be expected to know off pat
> and deliver without missing a beat.
>
So how is Solihull pronounced then? I always think of it as "solly-hull"...
--
Halmyre
That's you that is.
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:48:15 +0100
author: Halmyre ess
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
Halmyre wrote:
> In article <e4e096db-b2b8-414f-8648-
> 3a13cc46639a@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, sipston_777@my-deja.com says...
>> But the collapsed diphthong - in which a diphthong
>> is formed to provide minimal phonetic cues to a
>> longer word - from Billy Liar does, still, come over
>> as an, albeit affected, social semiotic pertaining
>> to the dignity and responsibility of assumed social
>> status. It reminds me of Solihull, Cholmondley,
>> Bicester and Featherstonehaugh simultaneously;
>> all pronunciations a reliable acculturated BBC anchor
>> or links man would be expected to know off pat
>> and deliver without missing a beat.
>>
>
> So how is Solihull pronounced then? I always think of it as "solly-hull"...
>
According to Wikipedia it's pronounced that way and also with a long "o".
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:55:42 +0200
author: Einde O'Callaghan
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
"Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message
news:MPG.231e7c6a4af49e9898997d@news.tesco.net...
> In article <e4e096db-b2b8-414f-8648-
> 3a13cc46639a@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, sipston_777@my-deja.com says...
>> But the collapsed diphthong - in which a diphthong
>> is formed to provide minimal phonetic cues to a
>> longer word - from Billy Liar does, still, come over
>> as an, albeit affected, social semiotic pertaining
>> to the dignity and responsibility of assumed social
>> status. It reminds me of Solihull, Cholmondley,
>> Bicester and Featherstonehaugh simultaneously;
>> all pronunciations a reliable acculturated BBC anchor
>> or links man would be expected to know off pat
>> and deliver without missing a beat.
>>
>
> So how is Solihull pronounced then? I always think of it as
> "solly-hull"...
>
I'd go with Soiled Hole.
AC
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:52:21 +0100
author: AC
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
On 27 Aug, 01:52, "AC" wrote:
> "Halmyre" <no.s...@this.address> wrote in message
>
> news:MPG.231e7c6a4af49e9898997d@news.tesco.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <e4e096db-b2b8-414f-8648-
> > 3a13cc466...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, sipston_...@my-deja.com says...
> >> But the collapsed diphthong - in which a diphthong
> >> is formed to provide minimal phonetic cues to a
> >> longer word - from Billy Liar does, still, come over
> >> as an, albeit affected, social semiotic pertaining
> >> to the dignity and responsibility of assumed social
> >> status. It reminds me of Solihull, Cholmondley,
> >> Bicester and Featherstonehaugh simultaneously;
> >> all pronunciations a reliable acculturated BBC anchor
> >> or links man would be expected to know off pat
> >> and deliver without missing a beat.
>
> > So how is Solihull pronounced then? I always think of it as
> > "solly-hull"...
>
> I'd go with Soiled Hole.
>
> AC- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
That's nice to know, but how do you pronounce Solihull?
--
Halmyre
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:23:39 -0700 (PDT)
author: Halmyre
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
In article ,
Einde O'Callaghan writes:
> Halmyre wrote:
> > So how is Solihull pronounced then? I always think of it as "solly-hull"...
> >
> According to Wikipedia it's pronounced that way and also with a long "o".
>
> Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
A lesson on pronunciation from someone called `Einde'? Irony, I calls it.
--
SAm.
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:35:54 +0100
author: (Sam Nelson)
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
Sam Nelson wrote:
> In article ,
> Einde O'Callaghan writes:
>> Halmyre wrote:
>>> So how is Solihull pronounced then? I always think of it as "solly-hull"...
>>>
>> According to Wikipedia it's pronounced that way and also with a long "o".
>>
>> Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
>
> A lesson on pronunciation from someone called `Einde'? Irony, I calls it.
No - a non-English name spelled in the original form.
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:23:01 +0200
author: Einde O'Callaghan
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
In article ,
Einde O'Callaghan writes:
> Sam Nelson wrote:
> > In article ,
> > Einde O'Callaghan writes:
> >> Halmyre wrote:
> >>> So how is Solihull pronounced then? I always think of it as "solly-hull"...
> >>>
> >> According to Wikipedia it's pronounced that way and also with a long "o".
> >>
> >> Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
> >
> > A lesson on pronunciation from someone called `Einde'? Irony, I calls it.
>
> No - a non-English name spelled in the original form.
Can't take a tease, then?
--
SAm.
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:49:07 +0100
author: (Sam Nelson)
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
In ,
Halmyre wrote:
>That's nice to know, but how do you pronounce Solihull?
Me? Sole-ee-hull, with the L in sole pronounced the same way Michael
Howard says the 2nd part of people ("pee-pull") :-)
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:18:10 +0100
author: Mike Henry {$mrtickle$}@nospam.demon.co.uk
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
In article , {$mrtickle$}
@nospam.demon.co.uk says...
> In ,
> Halmyre wrote:
> >That's nice to know, but how do you pronounce Solihull?
>
> Me? Sole-ee-hull, with the L in sole pronounced the same way Michael
> Howard says the 2nd part of people ("pee-pull") :-)
>
Solly-hull, sole-ee-hull, who cares, let's just call the whole thing off.
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Halmyre
That's you that is.
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:55:36 +0100
author: Halmyre ess
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
Halmyre wrote:
> In article , {$mrtickle$}
> @nospam.demon.co.uk says...
>> In
>> ,
>> Halmyre wrote:
>>> That's nice to know, but how do you pronounce Solihull?
>>
>> Me? Sole-ee-hull, with the L in sole pronounced the same way Michael
>> Howard says the 2nd part of people ("pee-pull") :-)
>>
>
> Solly-hull, sole-ee-hull, who cares, let's just call the whole thing
> off.
Does anyone ever say 'potahto'?
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John Briggs
date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:12:34 +0100
author: John Briggs
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
In article <Ebltk.184723$D01.181967@newsfe17.ams2>, john.briggs4@ntlworld.com
says...
> Halmyre wrote:
> > In article , {$mrtickle$}
> > @nospam.demon.co.uk says...
> >> In
> >> ,
> >> Halmyre wrote:
> >>> That's nice to know, but how do you pronounce Solihull?
> >>
> >> Me? Sole-ee-hull, with the L in sole pronounced the same way Michael
> >> Howard says the 2nd part of people ("pee-pull") :-)
> >>
> >
> > Solly-hull, sole-ee-hull, who cares, let's just call the whole thing
> > off.
>
> Does anyone ever say 'potahto'?
>
About as often as I say "tom-ay-toe"
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Halmyre
That's you that is.
date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:45:56 +0100
author: Halmyre ess
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Re: Dr WHO - etymology of Daleks
Halmyre wrote:
> In article <Ebltk.184723$D01.181967@newsfe17.ams2>,
> john.briggs4@ntlworld.com says...
>> Halmyre wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> {$mrtickle$} @nospam.demon.co.uk says...
>>>> In
>>>> ,
>>>> Halmyre wrote:
>>>>> That's nice to know, but how do you pronounce Solihull?
>>>>
>>>> Me? Sole-ee-hull, with the L in sole pronounced the same way
>>>> Michael Howard says the 2nd part of people ("pee-pull") :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Solly-hull, sole-ee-hull, who cares, let's just call the whole thing
>>> off.
>>
>> Does anyone ever say 'potahto'?
>
> About as often as I say "tom-ay-toe"
Yes, but I said *anyone*.
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John Briggs
date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:26:18 +0100
author: John Briggs
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