Hi everyone.  I recently created an account for myself on Gmail and
that is what I will now be regularly instead of Microsoft Hotmail.  As
such I have modified my Email Address setting in Forté Free Agent,
replacing govende30@hotmail.invalid with the more neutral
invalid@invalid.invalid.  I've also decided that the clever moniker
that I coined, "Daniel al-Autistiqui", isn't really doing any good[1]
and I've therefore changed the Full Name setting as well; it now just
reads "Dan McGrath".  ("Dan", rather than "Daniel", is actually what I
get called most of the time in real life.)

I use the popular News.Individual.NET (NIN) news server.  What I am
concerned about is whether I am safe in having made these changes to
my From: header ("Daniel al-Autistiqui <govende30@hotmail.invalid>" ->
"Dan McGrath <invalid@invalid.invalid>" -- incidentally, before I
settled on the triple-"invalid" address I also posted a couple of
messages under me@privacy.net).  I know that the NIN FAQ
(http://news.individual.net/faq.php) mentions the pseudo-TLD
".invalid" in connection with question 5.3, but that suffix is not
what I'm asking about.  I am worried simply because I now post using a
*different* From: header than I used to, and I sort of remember
hearing that modifying one's From: header while using NIN can
sometimes be dangerous.

I know this post is hardly on-topic for these groups, but I already
tried posting this on alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent and did
not get very far.  (Some of those responses had also appeared on AUE.
The people there seemed to think that my concern was about the
".invalid" suffix.)  The reason I sometimes try groups like AUE/AEU is
that the people on those groups know lots of things about me and they
might be able to understand better that I really need answers.  So,
someone, please tell me if I am safe in having changed my From:
header, having gone from "Daniel al-Autistiqui
<govende30@hotmail.invalid>" to "Dan McGrath ", to
"Dan McGrath <invalid@invalid.invalid>".  (I need an obvious "yes" or
"no" answer.)  One more thing: someone on the Agent group suggested
that I remove the "McGrath".  I'm not convinced of this.  There are
plenty of Usenet posters -- quite a lot of people on AUE, in
particular -- who use their full first and last name.  Personally, I
don't have any desire to keep my last name private, any more than I do
with my real e-mail address.  My e-mail address does appear (slightly
mangled) in my signature, and I have avoided placing it in the headers
only because I'm afraid that this could cause problems if I was to
change my address again.

[1] However, I am hoping to put some information about my disabilities
and such into my signature sometime soon.  I haven't gotten around to
it yet; maybe my mother can help me with it the next time she comes
up.

- Dan
-- 
Daniel G. McGrath
Binghamton, New York
e-mail: dmcg6174[AT]gmail[DOT]com

Dan McGrath wrote:
> Hi everyone.  I recently created an account for myself on Gmail and
> that is what I will now be regularly instead of Microsoft Hotmail. 

Friend Dan seems to be a litle repetitive, even though most (all?) of us 
here in these newsgroups probably don't need to know any of this stuff.

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan

"Einde O'Callaghan"  wrote:
> Friend Dan seems to be a litle repetitive, even though most (all?) of us 
> here in these newsgroups probably don't need to know any of this stuff.

Not helped by having this turgid discussion crossposted across three 
newsgroups.
-- 
Andrew

The trick when dealing with cross-posting idiots is to reply to every group 
*except your own*, and kill file the idiot. So while I apologise for this 
cross post, you now know what to do.
http://www.flayme.com/

On 26 Aug 2008, Andrew Heenan wrote

> "Einde O'Callaghan"  wrote:
>> Friend Dan seems to be a litle repetitive, even though most
>> (all?) of us here in these newsgroups probably don't need to
>> know any of this stuff. 
> 
> Not helped by having this turgid discussion crossposted across
> three newsgroups.

Full-blown autism works like that.

You can either allow for it and get used to it, or kill-file him -- 
but don't expect someone with Daniel's level of the condition to 
change for your convenience or preference.

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:43:22 +0200, Einde O'Callaghan
 wrote:

>Dan McGrath wrote:
>> Hi everyone.  I recently created an account for myself on Gmail and
>> that is what I will now be regularly instead of Microsoft Hotmail. 
>
>Friend Dan seems to be a litle repetitive, even though most (all?) of us 
>here in these newsgroups probably don't need to know any of this stuff.
>
All that I was basically doing was showing my disappointment in
getting only one response to my original message over the weekend.

The question I asked is very important.  I *must* have it answered.
Otherwise I will feel uncomfortable posting to Usenet using Free
Agent.

- Dan
-- 
Daniel G. McGrath
Binghamton, New York
e-mail: dmcg6174[AT]gmail[DOT]com

Dan McGrath wrote, in 
 on Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:00:17 -0400:

> All that I was basically doing was showing my disappointment in
> getting only one response to my original message over the weekend.
> 
> The question I asked is very important.  I *must* have it answered.
> Otherwise I will feel uncomfortable posting to Usenet using Free
> Agent.

I answered it when you cross-posted to
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent two weeks ago, as did several
others.  You will see that in the second paragraph of the extract from
NIN's FAQ that they positively encourage you to do what you suggested.
My response also appeared here in aue as 
Message-ID: .


<repeat>
I think you are safe enough.  There is a chap over in afca who has done
some research on this, see <http://blinkynet.net/comp/individual.html>,

He quotes from NIN's FAQ:

"5.3  May I mangle my "From:" header address so that I do not get SPAM? 

We recommend creating a special e-mail address for use with Usenet
articles only and protecting it with suitable filtering rules. This way
your regular mailbox will stay untroubled, but you can still receive
mail responses to your Usenet articles. 

Another option is using the Top Level Domain ".invalid" (see RFC 2606).
The Top Level Domain ".invalid" is intended for construction of
obviously invalid addresses like "invalid@invalid.invalid". Such
addresses do not disturb and pollute regular name space and can easily
be identified as invalid by both humans and machines."
-- 
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:23:37 +0100, Nick Spalding 
wrote:

>Dan McGrath wrote, in 
> on Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:00:17 -0400:
>
>> All that I was basically doing was showing my disappointment in
>> getting only one response to my original message over the weekend.
>> 
>> The question I asked is very important.  I *must* have it answered.
>> Otherwise I will feel uncomfortable posting to Usenet using Free
>> Agent.
>
>I answered it when you cross-posted to
>alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent two weeks ago, as did several
>others.  You will see that in the second paragraph of the extract from
>NIN's FAQ that they positively encourage you to do what you suggested.
>My response also appeared here in aue as 
>Message-ID: .
[snip]

As I indicated in the OP of this thread, it appeared that you and
those others misunderstood my problem.  I actually said this:

"I know that the NIN FAQ
(http://news.individual.net/faq.php) mentions the pseudo-TLD
".invalid" in connection with question 5.3, but that suffix is not
what I'm asking about.  I am worried simply because I now post using a
*different* From: header than I used to, and I sort of remember
hearing that modifying one's From: header while using NIN can
sometimes be dangerous."

The ".invalid" at the end of the address is *NOT* what I am concerned
about.  In fact, the address I had been posting under for a long time
also ended with ".invalid".  I simply want to know whether I am safe
in having *CHANGED* my From: header *AT ALL*.  The From: headers on my
messages used to say "Daniel al-Autistiqui
<govende30@hotmail.invalid>", then I posted a couple of messages under
"Dan McGrath " before I finally settled on "Dan
McGrath <invalid@invalid.invalid>".  And I'm concerned because one
person on AUORFA said I should delete "McGrath".  I don't show any
personal desire to conceal my last name, FWIW.

- Dan
-- 
Daniel G. McGrath
Binghamton, New York
e-mail: dmcg6174[AT]gmail[DOT]com

Dan McGrath wrote, in 
 on Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:15:34 -0400:

> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:23:37 +0100, Nick Spalding 
> wrote:
> 
> >Dan McGrath wrote, in 
> > on Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:00:17 -0400:
> >
> >> All that I was basically doing was showing my disappointment in
> >> getting only one response to my original message over the weekend.
> >> 
> >> The question I asked is very important.  I *must* have it answered.
> >> Otherwise I will feel uncomfortable posting to Usenet using Free
> >> Agent.
> >
> >I answered it when you cross-posted to
> >alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent two weeks ago, as did several
> >others.  You will see that in the second paragraph of the extract from
> >NIN's FAQ that they positively encourage you to do what you suggested.
> >My response also appeared here in aue as 
> >Message-ID: .
> [snip]
> 
> As I indicated in the OP of this thread, it appeared that you and
> those others misunderstood my problem.  I actually said this:
> 
> "I know that the NIN FAQ
> (http://news.individual.net/faq.php) mentions the pseudo-TLD
> ".invalid" in connection with question 5.3, but that suffix is not
> what I'm asking about.  I am worried simply because I now post using a
> *different* From: header than I used to, and I sort of remember
> hearing that modifying one's From: header while using NIN can
> sometimes be dangerous."
> 
> The ".invalid" at the end of the address is *NOT* what I am concerned
> about.  In fact, the address I had been posting under for a long time
> also ended with ".invalid".  I simply want to know whether I am safe
> in having *CHANGED* my From: header *AT ALL*.  The From: headers on my
> messages used to say "Daniel al-Autistiqui
> <govende30@hotmail.invalid>", then I posted a couple of messages under
> "Dan McGrath " before I finally settled on "Dan
> McGrath <invalid@invalid.invalid>".  And I'm concerned because one
> person on AUORFA said I should delete "McGrath".  I don't show any
> personal desire to conceal my last name, FWIW.

I certainly did not understand that from your original post,  You are
free to change it as often as you like.
-- 
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE

Nick Spalding wrote:

> Dan McGrath wrote, in 
>  on Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:15:34 -0400:

> >  I simply want to know whether I
> > am safe in having CHANGED my From: header *AT ALL*.  The From:
> > headers on my messages used to say "Daniel al-Autistiqui
> > <govende30@hotmail.invalid>", then I posted a couple of messages
> > under "Dan McGrath " before I finally settled on
> > "Dan McGrath <invalid@invalid.invalid>".  

> I certainly did not understand that from your original post,  You are
> free to change it as often as you like.

I just want him to settle on one so I don't have to keep replonking him.




Brian

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