Has anyone tried these?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=81D94BEC-0AF3-4DE7-BC49-4A5522B5E8E8&displaylang=en

-- 
Noel

Ildhund wrote:
> Has anyone tried these?
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=81D94BEC-0AF3-4DE7-BC49-4A5522B5E8E8&displaylang=en
> 

Office 2003 only. What a waste of effort.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:26:38 +0000, sprocket 
wrote:

>Ildhund wrote:
>> Has anyone tried these?
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=81D94BEC-0AF3-4DE7-BC49-4A5522B5E8E8&displaylang=en
>> 
>
>Office 2003 only. What a waste of effort.

A similar reaction here.
(Office 97 on Win 98 SE)

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.culture.language.english)

Peter Duncanson wrote...
> sprocket wrote:
>>Ildhund wrote:
>>> Has anyone tried these?
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=81D94BEC-0AF3-4DE7-BC49-4A5522B5E8E8&displaylang=en

>>Office 2003 only. What a waste of effort.

> A similar reaction here.
> (Office 97 on Win 98 SE)

Well, I've got Office 2003, so I decided to see what this involved. I duly 
installed the West Country offering and went to see what had changed. I now 
have alongside custom.dic in my Proof folder a file called 
MRD_WestCountry.dic. This is a text file containing the following:

barton, blighter, bonce, caggled, capey, chiggy-pig, chopsy, chuggy pig , 
clicky-handed, coose, cram, cuss, dap, daps, dimpsy, disco dappers, drekkly, 
emmet, emmet, fairings , fang, fiddy, fitty, flittermouse, gaddle, grammer 
Sow, grockle, handsome, kewse , kibble, kilter, louster, lush, mazzard, 
mitch, muggins, passel, pobbies, pobs, rhine, scamel, scammish, scat, slock, 
spreathed, stonker, tacker, thicky, whortleberry, zamzoid, zound

It's comforting to know that Word would tell me if I misspelled one of 
these. Now I just need to find out what they mean.
-- 
Noel

Ildhund wrote:

> Well, I've got Office 2003, so I decided to see what this involved. I duly 
> installed the West Country offering and went to see what had changed. I now 
> have alongside custom.dic in my Proof folder a file called 
> MRD_WestCountry.dic. This is a text file containing the following:
> 
> barton, blighter, bonce, caggled, capey, chiggy-pig, chopsy, chuggy pig , 
> clicky-handed, coose, cram, cuss, dap, daps, dimpsy, disco dappers, drekkly, 
> emmet, emmet, fairings , fang, fiddy, fitty, flittermouse, gaddle, grammer 
> Sow, grockle, handsome, kewse , kibble, kilter, louster, lush, mazzard, 
> mitch, muggins, passel, pobbies, pobs, rhine, scamel, scammish, scat, slock, 
> spreathed, stonker, tacker, thicky, whortleberry, zamzoid, zound
> 
> It's comforting to know that Word would tell me if I misspelled one of 
> these. Now I just need to find out what they mean.

Well I don't speak West Country, but I recognise some. The vocabulary 
seems to be a mix of traditional local and modern national terms.

National:

blighter: a problematic person
bonce: the head
stonker: a priapism
muggins: a fool or dupe

Local:

clicky-handed: left-handed
emmet: a tourist, or an ant
grockle: a tourist
pobbies, pobs: I didn't know these were West Country terms. In the North 
West they mean bread-and-milk.
mitch: to inform on
rhine (pron "reen"): a drainage ditch
thicky: this

JS

At 13:42:46 on Wed, 16 Jan 2008, sprocket  wrote in 
<fml226$ukt$1@aioe.org>:

>Well I don't speak West Country, but I recognise some. The vocabulary 
>seems to be a mix of traditional local and modern national terms.

And I can make a guess at a few more:

chiggy-pig, chuggy pig:  I bet that's a hedgehog
flittermouse: a bat (the winged mammal type; cf Das Fledermaus)
whortleberry: blaeberry, bilberry, whinberry and probably another 
hundred names in different regions!
-- 
Molly Mockford
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
(My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.)

In article <K93$mDibBkjHFwd+@molly.mockford>,
 Molly Mockford  writes:
>whortleberry: blaeberry, bilberry, whinberry and probably another
>hundred names in different regions!

In my part of Surrey, they have traditionally been called "hurts",
though I doubt whether many young people will know the word. Hence,
presumably, Hurtwood: http://www.hurtwoodcontrol.co.uk/
-- 
John Hall
             "Honest criticism is hard to take,
               particularly from a relative, a friend,
               an acquaintance, or a stranger."        Franklin P Jones

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:41:24 +0000, Peter Duncanson
 wrote:

>On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:26:38 +0000, sprocket 
>wrote:
>
>>Ildhund wrote:
>>> Has anyone tried these?
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=81D94BEC-0AF3-4DE7-BC49-4A5522B5E8E8&displaylang=en
>>> 
>>
>>Office 2003 only. What a waste of effort.
>
>A similar reaction here.
>(Office 97 on Win 98 SE)

However, I have now installed the file MRD_WestCountry.dic on
Win 98 SE and told Word 97 to use it.

Success!

A quick check suggests that file .dic file format is compatible
with Word 97; it is a custom dictionary file. The only
difference between Words seems to be the location of the file. 

The installer wants to install the file in the directory:

  C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\Proof

The directory Proof does not exist. There are two possibilities,
either create Proof or put the .dic file somewhere else of your
own choice, for WIN 98 SE I suggest 

  C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\PROOF

Then tell Word where the file is. For Word 97:

Tools>Options>Spelling and Grammar, click on Dictionaries, click
on Add, find the .dic file, Press OK...

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.culture.language.english)

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:29:54 +0000, Peter Duncanson
 wrote:

>
>The installer wants to install the file in the directory:
>
Showing my age! directory = folder

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.culture.language.english)

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:29:54 +0000, Peter Duncanson
 wrote:

>The directory Proof does not exist. There are two possibilities,
>either create Proof or put the .dic file somewhere else of your
>own choice, for WIN 98 SE I suggest 
>
>  C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\PROOF
>
>Then tell Word where the file is. For Word 97:
>
>Tools>Options>Spelling and Grammar, click on Dictionaries, click
>on Add, find the .dic file, Press OK...

Slight correction - if the regional dictionary files are put in

  C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\PROOF\

there is no need to tell Word (on Win 98SE) where the files are,
it automatically looks for custom dictionaries in the above
folder.

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.culture.language.english)

In uk.culture.language.english, Peter Duncanson wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:29:54 +0000, Peter Duncanson
> wrote:
>
>>
>>The installer wants to install the file in the directory:
>>
>Showing my age! directory = folder

Well they might be in this case but not in every case. It's a mistake to
assume that directory = folder.

See for instance the "Control Panel" folder (which AFAIK is not a
directory) in the "My Computer" folder (which AFAIK isn't a directory
either). Then there's C:\RECYCLER which is a directory but not normally
a folder in its own right but a contributor to the "Recycle Bin" folder.

-- 
Mike Barnes

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:42:46 +0000, sprocket 
wrote:

<snip>

|mitch: to inform on

No. (not as far as I know - anyway)

Mitch : to bunk-off school.

H.

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:54:26 +0000, Mike Barnes
 wrote:

>In uk.culture.language.english, Peter Duncanson wrote:
>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:29:54 +0000, Peter Duncanson
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The installer wants to install the file in the directory:
>>>
>>Showing my age! directory = folder
>
>Well they might be in this case but not in every case. It's a mistake to
>assume that directory = folder.
>
>See for instance the "Control Panel" folder (which AFAIK is not a
>directory) in the "My Computer" folder (which AFAIK isn't a directory
>either). Then there's C:\RECYCLER which is a directory but not normally
>a folder in its own right but a contributor to the "Recycle Bin" folder.

Confusing isn't it.

I get the impression that in MS-user-interface-speak the word
"directory" has been dropped.

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.culture.language.english)

On 16 Jan, 18:10, "Ildhund"  wrote:
> Peter Duncanson wrote...
> > sprocket wrote:
> >>Ildhund wrote:
> >>> Has anyone tried these?
> >>>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=81D94BEC-0AF...
> >>Office 2003 only. What a waste of effort.
> > A similar reaction here.
> > (Office 97 on Win 98 SE)
>
> Well, I've got Office 2003, so I decided to see what this involved. I duly
> installed the West Country offering and went to see what had changed. I now
> have alongside custom.dic in my Proof folder a file called
> MRD_WestCountry.dic. This is a text file containing the following:
>
> barton, blighter, bonce, caggled, capey, chiggy-pig, chopsy, chuggy pig ,
> clicky-handed, coose, cram, cuss, dap, daps, dimpsy, disco dappers, drekkly,
> emmet, emmet, fairings , fang, fiddy, fitty, flittermouse, gaddle, grammer
> Sow, grockle, handsome, kewse , kibble, kilter, louster, lush, mazzard,
> mitch, muggins, passel, pobbies, pobs, rhine, scamel, scammish, scat, slock,
> spreathed, stonker, tacker, thicky, whortleberry, zamzoid, zound
>
> It's comforting to know that Word would tell me if I misspelled one of
> these. Now I just need to find out what they mean.
> --
> Noel

I can help you with at least one of these words, Noel. Handsome. Look
in the mirror and you will know what it means!

On 16 Jan, 18:42, sprocket  wrote:
> Ildhund wrote:
> > Well, I've got Office 2003, so I decided to see what this involved. I duly
> > installed the West Country offering and went to see what had changed. I now
> > have alongside custom.dic in my Proof folder a file called
> > MRD_WestCountry.dic. This is a text file containing the following:
>
> > barton, blighter, bonce, caggled, capey, chiggy-pig, chopsy, chuggy pig ,
> > clicky-handed, coose, cram, cuss, dap, daps, dimpsy, disco dappers, drekkly,
> > emmet, emmet, fairings , fang, fiddy, fitty, flittermouse, gaddle, grammer
> > Sow, grockle, handsome, kewse , kibble, kilter, louster, lush, mazzard,
> > mitch, muggins, passel, pobbies, pobs, rhine, scamel, scammish, scat, slock,
> > spreathed, stonker, tacker, thicky, whortleberry, zamzoid, zound
>
> > It's comforting to know that Word would tell me if I misspelled one of
> > these. Now I just need to find out what they mean.
>
> Well I don't speak West Country, but I recognise some. The vocabulary
> seems to be a mix of traditional local and modern national terms.
>
> National:
>
> blighter: a problematic person
> bonce: the head
> stonker: a priapism
> muggins: a fool or dupe
>
> Local:
>
> clicky-handed: left-handed
> emmet: a tourist, or an ant
> grockle: a tourist
> pobbies, pobs: I didn't know these were West Country terms. In the North
> West they mean bread-and-milk.
> mitch: to inform on
> rhine (pron "reen"): a drainage ditch
> thicky: this
>
> JS

Will 'zound' mean the same as 'zounds'? I thought 'zounds' was an
exclamation used as an oath, expression of anger, wonder etc.

Paul wrote:

> 
> Will 'zound' mean the same as 'zounds'? I thought 'zounds' was an
> exclamation used as an oath, expression of anger, wonder etc.

The oath 'zounds' is a mincing of 'by His wounds', He being Jesus. They 
went in for a lot of this when blasphemy was shocking.

The West Country 'zound' I've no idea about. It would probably be 
'sound' in RP, but whether there is any other dialectical meaning I 
don't know. I suspect not, looking at the quality of the list.

JS

On 4 Feb, 18:07, sprocket  wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>
> > Will 'zound' mean the same as 'zounds'? I thought 'zounds' was an
> > exclamation used as an oath, expression of anger, wonder etc.
>
> The oath 'zounds' is a mincing of 'by His wounds', He being Jesus. They
> went in for a lot of this when blasphemy was shocking.
>
> The West Country 'zound' I've no idea about. It would probably be
> 'sound' in RP, but whether there is any other dialectical meaning I
> don't know. I suspect not, looking at the quality of the list.
>
> JS

Thanks, sprocket. (or is it JS? I haven't read the usenet etiquette
page yet) . 'Zounds' occurs many times in the short play 'Bosun's
Mate' which forms part of the syllabi in most courses for beginners in
Eng. lit. in South Asia. Good to learn it is a 'mincing' of 'by His
wounds!'
I used to have a priest friend who signed of letters with ' Yours, in
His service,'. (Those were days when papyrus was more the rule than
the exception as it is, today)

Paul.