I'm Italian, and when I hear Saxon Languages like English, and German 
(especially German with cluster like tshcl), it sounds hard... too many 
consonants.

For example, in music, only vocals are singed... i't obviously impossible to 
sing one -tch-...
So there's a strong reason (for me) in why I hear more -musical- Latin 
languages than Saxon ones

But my question is:
I'm Italian... it's logical that I prefer Latin
How sounds my language (and other Latin like Spanish and French) at non 
Latin people?

I hope the smart of my question surpass the quality of my English
bye

toni wrote:

> For example, in music, only vocals are singed..

Only in hot jazz.

> So there's a strong reason (for me) in why I hear more -musical- Latin 
> languages than Saxon ones
> 

For some odd reason, the speaker's own language always sounds best. It 
doesn't matter whether it's English of any flavour, Irish, Welsh, 
Norwegian, Sami, Finnish, Latvian, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Albanian, 
Arabic, Hausa or Xhosa. Foreign languages all have funny sounds that you 
can't pronounce, wherever you start out from. You can't call that blotto 
voce Italian singing more musical than a correctly sung series of 
Bushman clicks, or the sibilant Lls or a Welsh male voice choir.

Paul Burke

>> For example, in music, only vocals are singed..
>
> Only in hot jazz.


Maybe it isn't true... follow this

Can you sing the word
"Listttttttttttttttttten to the radddddddddddio"?
or better
"Listeeeeeeeeeen to the raaaaaaadio"

Sigers, make practice using vocalize, not consonantize
Vocalize consist in sing a scale ascend and descend using A, E, I etc,
Its obviously impossibile to do it using T, or H, or L....

(Vocals came from larynx, instead consonants are like a joke with the 
tongue... think RRRR... consonants have no-sound...)



> For some odd reason, the speaker's own language always sounds best. It

This is the reason of my post!

It's impossible for me to listen to my language as a foreign
I can only say that German (and English) sounds hard...
Sounds like crumbled stones...


How sounds Italian (or Spanish or French) to you?


> can't pronounce, wherever you start out from. You can't call that blotto 
> voce Italian singing more musical than a correctly sung series of

Blotto voice... it's good... it explain a bit what I'm searching...
But perhaps you mean -opera- singers... instead I mean normal speaking sound

If you (or someone else) can better explain this, i'm grateful.
(feel really free to offend...)


Thanks

toni wrote:
>>> For example, in music, only vocals are singed..
>> Only in hot jazz.
> 
> 
> Maybe it isn't true... follow this
> 
> Can you sing the word
> "Listttttttttttttttttten to the radddddddddddio"?
> or better
> "Listeeeeeeeeeen to the raaaaaaadio"
> 
> Sigers, make practice using vocalize, not consonantize
> Vocalize consist in sing a scale ascend and descend using A, E, I etc,
> Its obviously impossibile to do it using T, or H, or L....
> 
> (Vocals came from larynx, instead consonants are like a joke with the 
> tongue... think RRRR... consonants have no-sound...)
> 
He was referring to your word "singed". You meant "sung".

singe - verb (singed, singeing) tr & intr to burn lightly on the surface; to 
scorch or become scorched. noun a light surface burn.
ETYMOLOGY: Anglo-Saxon sengan.

sung - past participle of sing
> 
> 
>> For some odd reason, the speaker's own language always sounds best. It
> 
> This is the reason of my post!

So you got an answer.

> 
> It's impossible for me to listen to my language as a foreign
> I can only say that German (and English) sounds hard...
> Sounds like crumbled stones...
> 
> 
> How sounds Italian (or Spanish or French) to you?
> 
> 

Italian and Spanish and, to some extent, French definitely "flow" differently 
to Germanic languages; they appear to have no stops in and each individual 
phoneme is linked to its preceding and following phonemes.

Germanic languages utilize stops so there are breaks in the flow within and 
between words. This could be described as sounding hard.

To me, the romance languages do sound more lyrical and melodic but are harder 
to understand as I'm used to the way individual sounds are separated and 
discernible in Germanic languages, being a native English speaker.

> sung - past participle of sing

sorry!




> Italian and Spanish and, to some extent, French definitely "flow" 
> differently

I never thought about it in term of timings...

.... French sounds better than others latin languages? it's another 
interesting thing...
English sounds better than German too...

Thanks a lot for the answer...
bye

toni wrote:
> 
>> Italian and Spanish and, to some extent, French definitely "flow" 
>> differently
> 
> I never thought about it in term of timings...
> 

It is possible to consider that Italian (like French) is a syllable timed 
language, while English (like German) is a stress timed language.  This may 
account for the differences which you described.

One's personal preferences are simply that.  For myself, I find Italian the most 
delightful to listen to and to speak, while Latin is neither.



-- 
Blue Sow

> delightful to listen to and to speak, while Latin is neither.

Perhaps you have learned latin at school?
It's incredible (at least in Italy) how school can make detest stuff...

Anyhow, we'll never knows how latin sounds... nor ancient greek or egyptian

toni wrote:
>> delightful to listen to and to speak, while Latin is neither.
>
> Perhaps you had learn latin at school?
> It's incredible (at least in Italy) how school can make detest
> stuff...
> Anyhow, we'll never knows how latin sounds... nor ancient greek or
> egyptian

Why do you think that?
-- 
John Briggs