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Research vs researches
You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
trend?
Help? Thoughts?
Thanks.
date: 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700
author: unknown
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Re: Research vs researches
eric@compellingconversations.com schrieb:
> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> trend?
>
> Help? Thoughts?
>
In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
- see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:26:59 +0200
author: Einde O'Callaghan
|
Re: Research vs researches
eric@compellingconversations.com schrieb:
> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> trend?
>
> Help? Thoughts?
>
In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
- see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:26:59 +0200
author: Einde O'Callaghan
|
Re: Research vs researches
eric@compellingconversations.com schrieb:
> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> trend?
>
> Help? Thoughts?
>
In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
- see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:26:59 +0200
author: Einde O'Callaghan
|
Re: Research vs researches
eric@compellingconversations.com schrieb:
> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> trend?
>
> Help? Thoughts?
>
In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
- see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:26:59 +0200
author: Einde O'Callaghan
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
On May 31, 1:26 pm, Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallag...@planet-
interkom.de> wrote:
> e...@compellingconversations.com schrieb:> You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> > U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> > noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> > it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
> > trend?
>
> > Help? Thoughts?
>
> In my opinion it depends on the meaning. If we are talking about
> collecting information etc. in general then I would say it is
> uncountable. In particular contexts where we are talking about
> particular acts of collecting information then I would say it is
> countable. I don't think this is a US/GB thing and the entry at the
> Merriam Webster Online dictionary (US English) would seem to bear me out
> - see <http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research>.
Thanks. I've seen different answers in different dictionaries.
date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:43:49 -0000
author: unknown
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
"eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
}You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
}U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
}noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
}it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some other
}trend?
Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD, and
researches was not a word we used, ever.
Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage didn't exist we said
"we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
Because our "high tech systems" are not nearly as good as the Brits and
Yanks, particularly, would have you believe.
{R}
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:13:20 +0100
author: {R}
|
Re: Research vs researches
{R} wrote:
> In uk.culture.language.english on 30 May 2007 23:19:13 -0700,
> "eric@compellingconversations.com" wrote:
>
> }You will often hear that the word "research" is uncountable in the
> }U.S., but it seems that I find the word "researches" as a countable
> }noun too. Is this an American vs British English difference? Or does
> }it vary according to academic discipline? Or does this show some
> other }trend?
>
> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
>
> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
John Briggs writes:
>You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun (or
>possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
>was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
>incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
--
John Hall
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:07:58 +0100
author: John Hall
|
Re: Research vs researches
John Hall wrote:
> In article <_Cf8i.6455$VS.1522@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> John Briggs writes:
>> You probably, however, came across the verb "to task", and the noun
>> (or possibly adjective) "hittile" (spellcheckers were in their
>> infancy, and I was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The
>> MOD is institutionally incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
>
> I was about to mention "hittile" myself - a horrid coinage.
" Barbarous" (a cognate of "horrid"?) was the word you were looking for :-)
--
John Briggs
date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:22:01 GMT
author: John Briggs
|
Re: Research vs researches
In uk.culture.language.english on Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:01:14 GMT, "John
Briggs" wrote:
}{R} wrote:
}> Not sure about the degradation and mutilation of English by illiterate
}> Americans. I used to be (1970-80) a research scientist for the MOD,
}> and researches was not a word we used, ever.
}>
}> Neither was "attrite" a verb and "collateral damage" didn't exist we
}> said "we kill the poor bastards, unintentionally".
}
}
}You probably, however, came across the verb "to task",
Yes, I suppose that was marginally acceptable.
} and the noun (or possibly adjective) "hittile"
At which we all laughed and completely ignored.
>(spellcheckers were in their infancy, and I
}was always tempted to substitute "Hittite"...) The MOD is institutionally
}incapable of correctly spelling "supersede".
Oh yes, confused me for years that did.
The MOD took my PhD thesis away by classifying the data Secret :( So I
eventually just quit.
{R}
date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:00:10 +0100
author: {R}
|
|
|