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date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:02:54 -0700,    group: uk.community.voluntary        back       
Please sign this e-petition for Pensioners   
Last week the government minister Alan Johnson announced that they
would pay pregnant mothers in their seventh month of pregnancy a
special food allowance, wow what a bright idea that is, another of
New
Labours hairbrained schemes, paying woman who are pregnant extra
money
is stupid, they choose to get pregnant and have a child, if they
cannot afford to have a child then they should wait untill they can
afford it, while Alan Johnson was announcing this he forgot one very
vulnerable group of our society, pensioners, why are they always
forgotten? OK so the government gives pensioners a winter fuel
payment, that goes no where, many pensioners these days are living in
terrible poverty, they are going without food, going without the
basics of normal life.

The politics in this country are all back to front, this government
spends billions of our money on schemes which we know will fail from
the start, pensioners of this country have earned the right to live
decently, pensioners should not be suffering from malnutrition,
malnutrition in our NHS hospitals is a disgrace, what has this nation
come to, spend money on the things that the people need, ask the
voters, they dare not do that, they might get a answer they dont
like.


I saw this e-petition on the number 10 downing st.website
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/freshfruitveg/ is is a very worthwhile e-
petition to sign, everybody should take a look at it and sign it and
help the poorest of pensioners in this once great country.
date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:02:54 -0700   author:   Campaigner

Re: Please sign this e-petition for Pensioners   
On 18 Sep, 13:02, Campaigner  wrote:
> Last week the government minister Alan Johnson announced that they
> would pay pregnant mothers in their seventh month of pregnancy a
> special food allowance, wow what a bright idea that is, another of
> New
> Labours hairbrained schemes, paying woman who are pregnant extra
> money
> is stupid, they choose to get pregnant and have a child, if they
> cannot afford to have a child then they should wait untill they can
> afford it, while Alan Johnson was announcing this he forgot one very
> vulnerable group of our society, pensioners, why are they always
> forgotten? OK so the government gives pensioners a winter fuel
> payment, that goes no where, many pensioners these days are living in
> terrible poverty, they are going without food, going without the
> basics of normal life.
>
> The politics in this country are all back to front, this government
> spends billions of our money on schemes which we know will fail from
> the start, pensioners of this country have earned the right to live
> decently, pensioners should not be suffering from malnutrition,
> malnutrition in our NHS hospitals is a disgrace, what has this nation
> come to, spend money on the things that the people need, ask the
> voters, they dare not do that, they might get a answer they dont
> like.
>
> I saw this e-petition on the number 10 downing st.websitehttp://petitions.pm.gov.uk/freshfruitveg/is is a very worthwhile e-
> petition to sign, everybody should take a look at it and sign it and
> help the poorest of pensioners in this once great country.

Exactly what is wrong with a special food allowance?
As for waiting until can afford to have a child - if that is what you
want, how many temporary sterilisations are you going to do from age
10 upwards?
And who will pay for pensioners to get their pensions with a much
lower birth rate?
7th month food allowance has nothing to do with affordability of
children. But could make a difference to the mother and unborn baby
(if used as needed).

Ummm...when did pensioners earn the right to live decently? Oh yes -
when they put money aside each week or month in a pension scheme?
Or is it some right that all should have, but don't?

Pensioners in your view may be forgotten. But seems like they can get
quite a bit more than some.
Lets see - free travel, £200 fuel allowance, basic pension quite a bit
higher than benefit rates, free tv licence from age 75. Did I miss
anything?
Oh yes, much higher tax allowance than others.

Martin  <><
date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:44:28 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Please sign this e-petition for Pensioners   
On 18 Sep, 18:44, "mart2...@hotmail.com"  wrote:
> On 18 Sep, 13:02, Campaigner  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Last week the government minister Alan Johnson announced that they
> > would pay pregnant mothers in their seventh month of pregnancy a
> > special food allowance, wow what a bright idea that is, another of
> > New
> > Labours hairbrained schemes, paying woman who are pregnant extra
> > money
> > is stupid, they choose to get pregnant and have a child, if they
> > cannot afford to have a child then they should wait untill they can
> > afford it, while Alan Johnson was announcing this he forgot one very
> > vulnerable group of our society, pensioners, why are they always
> > forgotten? OK so the government gives pensioners a winter fuel
> > payment, that goes no where, many pensioners these days are living in
> > terrible poverty, they are going without food, going without the
> > basics of normal life.
>
> > The politics in this country are all back to front, this government
> > spends billions of our money on schemes which we know will fail from
> > the start, pensioners of this country have earned the right to live
> > decently, pensioners should not be suffering from malnutrition,
> > malnutrition in our NHS hospitals is a disgrace, what has this nation
> > come to, spend money on the things that the people need, ask the
> > voters, they dare not do that, they might get a answer they dont
> > like.
>
> > I saw this e-petition on the number 10 downing st.websitehttp://petitions.pm.gov.uk/freshfruitveg/isis a very worthwhile e-
> > petition to sign, everybody should take a look at it and sign it and
> > help the poorest of pensioners in this once great country.
>
> Exactly what is wrong with a special food allowance?
> As for waiting until can afford to have a child - if that is what you
> want, how many temporary sterilisations are you going to do from age
> 10 upwards?
> And who will pay for pensioners to get their pensions with a much
> lower birth rate?
> 7th month food allowance has nothing to do with affordability of
> children. But could make a difference to the mother and unborn baby
> (if used as needed).
>
> Ummm...when did pensioners earn the right to live decently? Oh yes -
> when they put money aside each week or month in a pension scheme?
> Or is it some right that all should have, but don't?
>
> Pensioners in your view may be forgotten. But seems like they can get
> quite a bit more than some.
> Lets see - free travel, £200 fuel allowance, basic pension quite a bit
> higher than benefit rates, free tv licence from age 75. Did I miss
> anything?
> Oh yes, much higher tax allowance than others.
>
> Martin  <><- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:10:27 -0700   author:   Campaigner

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