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date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:17:18 +0100,
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Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On benefits for donkey's years?
Forgotten by the state and the politicians?
Harassed by the DSS to force you into slave work?
Living in poverty in the 4th richest country in the World?
It is payback time! And yes you can get back to the DSS, the Labour
Party and all the scum that has condemned you to poverty.
On May the 3rd there will be elections in Britain, the best way to fuck
off the DSS, the government and all the ruling class in this country is
by voting the British National Party, who cares if you agree with them
or not, no other party besides them is capable of sending a shiver down
the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
them next time.
This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
--
Customized News: http://news.spotback.com
date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:17:18 +0100
author: macarro lid
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Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 18 Apr, 13:17, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> On benefits for donkey's years?
> Forgotten by the state and the politicians?
> Harassed by the DSS to force you into slave work?
> Living in poverty in the 4th richest country in the World?
>
> It is payback time! And yes you can get back to the DSS, the Labour
> Party and all the scum that has condemned you to poverty.
>
> On May the 3rd there will be elections in Britain, the best way to fuck
> off the DSS, the government and all the ruling class in this country is
> by voting the British National Party, who cares if you agree with them
> or not, no other party besides them is capable of sending a shiver down
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
highly evolved that humans.
I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
date: 19 Apr 2007 06:28:07 -0700
author: Zargon
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Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
>
> There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> highly evolved that humans.
> I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
The British people will have the last laugh on you when
we get back our country.
Just fuck off home mate.
--
Customized News: http://news.spotback.com
date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:44:38 +0100
author: macarro lid
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
I woudn't call it fear. Just mild amusement.
Glad you came clear on your views though - you managed to avoid
mentioning you were a racist in your first post.
For the record, my ancestors have lived here since just after the last
ice age.
Maybe we should have a family reunion and kick you out.
Relax. Have a cup of tea and a lie down. The situation normally looks
better after that.
date: 19 Apr 2007 08:38:28 -0700
author: Zargon
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Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
How very eloquent your arguments are, your predictions are way off the
mark though.
Mike
date: 19 Apr 2007 10:25:34 -0700
author: Mike
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Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
Germany.
The only people I think with a real claim to be naive british people
are the welsh. Even that is open to debate. After all the term British
was a creation of the Romans. So mabe the BNP are a cover for a welsh
nationalist group.
There was no real concept of being british until the 18 centuary. King
Charles 1 for example was king of the Kingdoms of England and
Scotland .
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
date: 20 Apr 2007 06:37:05 -0700
author: unknown
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Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
wrote in message
news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> Germany.
>
I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:55:45 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 20 Apr, 15:55, "Niteawk" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> > just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> > not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> > Germany.
>
> I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
> clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
be fine.
Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
Mike
date: 20 Apr 2007 10:14:15 -0700
author: Mike
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Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike"
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security,uk.community.social-housing
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
> As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
> left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
> be fine.
>
> Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
> debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
> that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
> Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
>
> I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
> they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
>
I watched this programme on C4 and found this review of it on the web.
There was an outstanding programme on TV tonight called 100% English. Shown
on Channel 4 it took a group of people and gave them cutting edge DNA tests
to reveal where they would have originally come from in the world -
something that can't really be ascertained by family trees even if you
manage to trace your history back many generations.
Apparently this technology is very new, and can give a global picture of
where your ancestors would have come together from, in percentages (i.e. 21%
Middle-Asia, 45% Southern Europe, etc) and then gave a second breakdown of
where in Europe the European side of the family would have originated from
before coming to England.
This alone would have made for reasonably interesting TV, but what made this
absolutely gripping was that of the ten or so members of the public that
took the test, all were either blatantly racist, all nationalists, and many
actually insane. All considered themselves, with some pride, "100% English".
For example, there was a rather scary middle aged and middle class woman who
wanted the English to be seen as a separate race, and to be treated as such.
She was talking about 1066 and the Battle Of Hastings, etc, and some
nonsense about how - in a round about way - the English were a master race.
If she sounded like a demented version of Hitler, what made it scarier was
she was being interviewed whilst strolling around a quaint country garden
looking as harmless as anything.
So all these people were interviewed, and only one of them was likable (an
impressionable 18 year old entering the army who thought that some aspects
of Englishness were being lost to immigration and although short-sighted and
misinformed wasn't in the same category as the rest), the others being truly
loathsome, bewildering and - as I say - pretty scary.
Most of all though, they were frustrating. There was a stand-up comedian,
and I use the term 'comedian' because it's the term they used in the
programme, called Danny Blue. He was filmed performing at a St Georges Day
bash at a club in Essex. The people turning up for this were absolutely
stereotypical. They all had shaved heads. All were basically BNP. Some
fantastically awful girls turned up in a stretched Hummer limo with St
George flags painted on the side, whilst inside the club Danny Blue was
naked and performing The Balloon Dance on stage.
The film said he invented the balloon dance (in which three men stand on a
stage naked holding balloons whilst doing a dance and using the balloons to
cover their modesty in certain ways) but he didn't - it was Malcolm Hardy
who invented it with Chris Lynam and Martin Soan. Anyway, he was then
interviewed in said white stretched limo outside and amongst other things
said that Ian Wright (the ex-England footballer) couldn't be English because
he was black, and that to be English, in his mind, you'd have to have twelve
generations of your family being born in England. Twelve! Nice and random.
So if you consider yourself English but eight generations ago in about 1790
or whenever one of your family came from France, you're not English. Not in
Danny Blue's eyes. So bad luck there.
So all these people were interviewed, all held this rather farcical (at
best) and utterly racist (at worst) view of England and the rest of the
world, and then they were given their results.
The woman who wanted England to be seen as a separate race turned out to me,
mainly, from Romany Gypsy stock. To read her face as this was revealed to
her was wonderful. The film then revealed she had threatened legal action if
this was shown, so well done Channel 4 there.
Danny Blue was a Russian.
I laughed, and laughed, and laughed. He was completely shocked and did then
concede that Ian Wright was English after all. And you only needed "three,
no four" generations of your family to come from England to be considered
English, not twelve. Still wrong, but an improvement of sorts.
The young army lad, who I liked, completely changed his view and accepted
that any nation is made up of immigrants.
The odd thing about nationalism, not patriotism, is that anyone should be
that fussed about being English. Nice place at it's best, pretty depressing
place at it's worst, I can't see how anyone could be annoyed at having a bit
of French blood in their ancestry, or any country for that matter. Surely
the more variation the better? I always bang on about how I'm a bit Scottish
whenever I'm north of the border. Why would an English person completely
deny the possibly of having some Scottish blood? Why would anyone furiously
deny they had some African blood, as a large percentage of white Europeans
do?
I suppose people always look for things to cling onto, and what to feel as
if they belong, but if you're trying to cling onto an idea of 'Englishness',
whatever that might entail, then you've got your head in the sand. What is
Englishness now?
Whatever, this was great TV and was presented with a deft touch and
tremendous skill by Andrew Graham-Dixon. He had the job of trying to make
these racists feel comfortable enough to expand on their wrong theories
whilst disagreeing with everything they said.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:36:22 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 18 Apr, 13:17, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> On benefits for donkey's years?
> Forgotten by the state and the politicians?
> Harassed by the DSS to force you into slave work?
> Living in poverty in the 4th richest country in the World?
>
> It is payback time! And yes you can get back to the DSS, the Labour
> Party and all the scum that has condemned you to poverty.
>
> On May the 3rd there will be elections in Britain, the best way to fuck
> off the DSS, the government and all the ruling class in this country is
> by voting the British National Party, who cares if you agree with them
> or not, no other party besides them is capable of sending a shiver down
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
highly evolved that humans.
I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
date: 19 Apr 2007 06:28:07 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
>
> There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> highly evolved that humans.
> I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
The British people will have the last laugh on you when
we get back our country.
Just fuck off home mate.
--
Customized News: http://news.spotback.com
date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:44:38 +0100
author: macarro lid
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
I woudn't call it fear. Just mild amusement.
Glad you came clear on your views though - you managed to avoid
mentioning you were a racist in your first post.
For the record, my ancestors have lived here since just after the last
ice age.
Maybe we should have a family reunion and kick you out.
Relax. Have a cup of tea and a lie down. The situation normally looks
better after that.
date: 19 Apr 2007 08:38:28 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
How very eloquent your arguments are, your predictions are way off the
mark though.
Mike
date: 19 Apr 2007 10:25:34 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
Germany.
The only people I think with a real claim to be naive british people
are the welsh. Even that is open to debate. After all the term British
was a creation of the Romans. So mabe the BNP are a cover for a welsh
nationalist group.
There was no real concept of being british until the 18 centuary. King
Charles 1 for example was king of the Kingdoms of England and
Scotland .
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
date: 20 Apr 2007 06:37:05 -0700
author: unknown
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
wrote in message
news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> Germany.
>
I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:55:45 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 20 Apr, 15:55, "Niteawk" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> > just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> > not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> > Germany.
>
> I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
> clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
be fine.
Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
Mike
date: 20 Apr 2007 10:14:15 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike"
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security,uk.community.social-housing
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
> As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
> left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
> be fine.
>
> Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
> debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
> that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
> Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
>
> I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
> they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
>
I watched this programme on C4 and found this review of it on the web.
There was an outstanding programme on TV tonight called 100% English. Shown
on Channel 4 it took a group of people and gave them cutting edge DNA tests
to reveal where they would have originally come from in the world -
something that can't really be ascertained by family trees even if you
manage to trace your history back many generations.
Apparently this technology is very new, and can give a global picture of
where your ancestors would have come together from, in percentages (i.e. 21%
Middle-Asia, 45% Southern Europe, etc) and then gave a second breakdown of
where in Europe the European side of the family would have originated from
before coming to England.
This alone would have made for reasonably interesting TV, but what made this
absolutely gripping was that of the ten or so members of the public that
took the test, all were either blatantly racist, all nationalists, and many
actually insane. All considered themselves, with some pride, "100% English".
For example, there was a rather scary middle aged and middle class woman who
wanted the English to be seen as a separate race, and to be treated as such.
She was talking about 1066 and the Battle Of Hastings, etc, and some
nonsense about how - in a round about way - the English were a master race.
If she sounded like a demented version of Hitler, what made it scarier was
she was being interviewed whilst strolling around a quaint country garden
looking as harmless as anything.
So all these people were interviewed, and only one of them was likable (an
impressionable 18 year old entering the army who thought that some aspects
of Englishness were being lost to immigration and although short-sighted and
misinformed wasn't in the same category as the rest), the others being truly
loathsome, bewildering and - as I say - pretty scary.
Most of all though, they were frustrating. There was a stand-up comedian,
and I use the term 'comedian' because it's the term they used in the
programme, called Danny Blue. He was filmed performing at a St Georges Day
bash at a club in Essex. The people turning up for this were absolutely
stereotypical. They all had shaved heads. All were basically BNP. Some
fantastically awful girls turned up in a stretched Hummer limo with St
George flags painted on the side, whilst inside the club Danny Blue was
naked and performing The Balloon Dance on stage.
The film said he invented the balloon dance (in which three men stand on a
stage naked holding balloons whilst doing a dance and using the balloons to
cover their modesty in certain ways) but he didn't - it was Malcolm Hardy
who invented it with Chris Lynam and Martin Soan. Anyway, he was then
interviewed in said white stretched limo outside and amongst other things
said that Ian Wright (the ex-England footballer) couldn't be English because
he was black, and that to be English, in his mind, you'd have to have twelve
generations of your family being born in England. Twelve! Nice and random.
So if you consider yourself English but eight generations ago in about 1790
or whenever one of your family came from France, you're not English. Not in
Danny Blue's eyes. So bad luck there.
So all these people were interviewed, all held this rather farcical (at
best) and utterly racist (at worst) view of England and the rest of the
world, and then they were given their results.
The woman who wanted England to be seen as a separate race turned out to me,
mainly, from Romany Gypsy stock. To read her face as this was revealed to
her was wonderful. The film then revealed she had threatened legal action if
this was shown, so well done Channel 4 there.
Danny Blue was a Russian.
I laughed, and laughed, and laughed. He was completely shocked and did then
concede that Ian Wright was English after all. And you only needed "three,
no four" generations of your family to come from England to be considered
English, not twelve. Still wrong, but an improvement of sorts.
The young army lad, who I liked, completely changed his view and accepted
that any nation is made up of immigrants.
The odd thing about nationalism, not patriotism, is that anyone should be
that fussed about being English. Nice place at it's best, pretty depressing
place at it's worst, I can't see how anyone could be annoyed at having a bit
of French blood in their ancestry, or any country for that matter. Surely
the more variation the better? I always bang on about how I'm a bit Scottish
whenever I'm north of the border. Why would an English person completely
deny the possibly of having some Scottish blood? Why would anyone furiously
deny they had some African blood, as a large percentage of white Europeans
do?
I suppose people always look for things to cling onto, and what to feel as
if they belong, but if you're trying to cling onto an idea of 'Englishness',
whatever that might entail, then you've got your head in the sand. What is
Englishness now?
Whatever, this was great TV and was presented with a deft touch and
tremendous skill by Andrew Graham-Dixon. He had the job of trying to make
these racists feel comfortable enough to expand on their wrong theories
whilst disagreeing with everything they said.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:36:22 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 18 Apr, 13:17, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> On benefits for donkey's years?
> Forgotten by the state and the politicians?
> Harassed by the DSS to force you into slave work?
> Living in poverty in the 4th richest country in the World?
>
> It is payback time! And yes you can get back to the DSS, the Labour
> Party and all the scum that has condemned you to poverty.
>
> On May the 3rd there will be elections in Britain, the best way to fuck
> off the DSS, the government and all the ruling class in this country is
> by voting the British National Party, who cares if you agree with them
> or not, no other party besides them is capable of sending a shiver down
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
highly evolved that humans.
I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
date: 19 Apr 2007 06:28:07 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
>
> There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> highly evolved that humans.
> I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
The British people will have the last laugh on you when
we get back our country.
Just fuck off home mate.
--
Customized News: http://news.spotback.com
date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:44:38 +0100
author: macarro lid
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
I woudn't call it fear. Just mild amusement.
Glad you came clear on your views though - you managed to avoid
mentioning you were a racist in your first post.
For the record, my ancestors have lived here since just after the last
ice age.
Maybe we should have a family reunion and kick you out.
Relax. Have a cup of tea and a lie down. The situation normally looks
better after that.
date: 19 Apr 2007 08:38:28 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
How very eloquent your arguments are, your predictions are way off the
mark though.
Mike
date: 19 Apr 2007 10:25:34 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
Germany.
The only people I think with a real claim to be naive british people
are the welsh. Even that is open to debate. After all the term British
was a creation of the Romans. So mabe the BNP are a cover for a welsh
nationalist group.
There was no real concept of being british until the 18 centuary. King
Charles 1 for example was king of the Kingdoms of England and
Scotland .
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
date: 20 Apr 2007 06:37:05 -0700
author: unknown
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
wrote in message
news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> Germany.
>
I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:55:45 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 20 Apr, 15:55, "Niteawk" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> > just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> > not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> > Germany.
>
> I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
> clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
be fine.
Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
Mike
date: 20 Apr 2007 10:14:15 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike"
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security,uk.community.social-housing
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
> As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
> left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
> be fine.
>
> Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
> debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
> that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
> Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
>
> I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
> they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
>
I watched this programme on C4 and found this review of it on the web.
There was an outstanding programme on TV tonight called 100% English. Shown
on Channel 4 it took a group of people and gave them cutting edge DNA tests
to reveal where they would have originally come from in the world -
something that can't really be ascertained by family trees even if you
manage to trace your history back many generations.
Apparently this technology is very new, and can give a global picture of
where your ancestors would have come together from, in percentages (i.e. 21%
Middle-Asia, 45% Southern Europe, etc) and then gave a second breakdown of
where in Europe the European side of the family would have originated from
before coming to England.
This alone would have made for reasonably interesting TV, but what made this
absolutely gripping was that of the ten or so members of the public that
took the test, all were either blatantly racist, all nationalists, and many
actually insane. All considered themselves, with some pride, "100% English".
For example, there was a rather scary middle aged and middle class woman who
wanted the English to be seen as a separate race, and to be treated as such.
She was talking about 1066 and the Battle Of Hastings, etc, and some
nonsense about how - in a round about way - the English were a master race.
If she sounded like a demented version of Hitler, what made it scarier was
she was being interviewed whilst strolling around a quaint country garden
looking as harmless as anything.
So all these people were interviewed, and only one of them was likable (an
impressionable 18 year old entering the army who thought that some aspects
of Englishness were being lost to immigration and although short-sighted and
misinformed wasn't in the same category as the rest), the others being truly
loathsome, bewildering and - as I say - pretty scary.
Most of all though, they were frustrating. There was a stand-up comedian,
and I use the term 'comedian' because it's the term they used in the
programme, called Danny Blue. He was filmed performing at a St Georges Day
bash at a club in Essex. The people turning up for this were absolutely
stereotypical. They all had shaved heads. All were basically BNP. Some
fantastically awful girls turned up in a stretched Hummer limo with St
George flags painted on the side, whilst inside the club Danny Blue was
naked and performing The Balloon Dance on stage.
The film said he invented the balloon dance (in which three men stand on a
stage naked holding balloons whilst doing a dance and using the balloons to
cover their modesty in certain ways) but he didn't - it was Malcolm Hardy
who invented it with Chris Lynam and Martin Soan. Anyway, he was then
interviewed in said white stretched limo outside and amongst other things
said that Ian Wright (the ex-England footballer) couldn't be English because
he was black, and that to be English, in his mind, you'd have to have twelve
generations of your family being born in England. Twelve! Nice and random.
So if you consider yourself English but eight generations ago in about 1790
or whenever one of your family came from France, you're not English. Not in
Danny Blue's eyes. So bad luck there.
So all these people were interviewed, all held this rather farcical (at
best) and utterly racist (at worst) view of England and the rest of the
world, and then they were given their results.
The woman who wanted England to be seen as a separate race turned out to me,
mainly, from Romany Gypsy stock. To read her face as this was revealed to
her was wonderful. The film then revealed she had threatened legal action if
this was shown, so well done Channel 4 there.
Danny Blue was a Russian.
I laughed, and laughed, and laughed. He was completely shocked and did then
concede that Ian Wright was English after all. And you only needed "three,
no four" generations of your family to come from England to be considered
English, not twelve. Still wrong, but an improvement of sorts.
The young army lad, who I liked, completely changed his view and accepted
that any nation is made up of immigrants.
The odd thing about nationalism, not patriotism, is that anyone should be
that fussed about being English. Nice place at it's best, pretty depressing
place at it's worst, I can't see how anyone could be annoyed at having a bit
of French blood in their ancestry, or any country for that matter. Surely
the more variation the better? I always bang on about how I'm a bit Scottish
whenever I'm north of the border. Why would an English person completely
deny the possibly of having some Scottish blood? Why would anyone furiously
deny they had some African blood, as a large percentage of white Europeans
do?
I suppose people always look for things to cling onto, and what to feel as
if they belong, but if you're trying to cling onto an idea of 'Englishness',
whatever that might entail, then you've got your head in the sand. What is
Englishness now?
Whatever, this was great TV and was presented with a deft touch and
tremendous skill by Andrew Graham-Dixon. He had the job of trying to make
these racists feel comfortable enough to expand on their wrong theories
whilst disagreeing with everything they said.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:36:22 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 18 Apr, 13:17, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> On benefits for donkey's years?
> Forgotten by the state and the politicians?
> Harassed by the DSS to force you into slave work?
> Living in poverty in the 4th richest country in the World?
>
> It is payback time! And yes you can get back to the DSS, the Labour
> Party and all the scum that has condemned you to poverty.
>
> On May the 3rd there will be elections in Britain, the best way to fuck
> off the DSS, the government and all the ruling class in this country is
> by voting the British National Party, who cares if you agree with them
> or not, no other party besides them is capable of sending a shiver down
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
highly evolved that humans.
I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
date: 19 Apr 2007 06:28:07 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
>
> There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> highly evolved that humans.
> I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
The British people will have the last laugh on you when
we get back our country.
Just fuck off home mate.
--
Customized News: http://news.spotback.com
date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:44:38 +0100
author: macarro lid
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
I woudn't call it fear. Just mild amusement.
Glad you came clear on your views though - you managed to avoid
mentioning you were a racist in your first post.
For the record, my ancestors have lived here since just after the last
ice age.
Maybe we should have a family reunion and kick you out.
Relax. Have a cup of tea and a lie down. The situation normally looks
better after that.
date: 19 Apr 2007 08:38:28 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
How very eloquent your arguments are, your predictions are way off the
mark though.
Mike
date: 19 Apr 2007 10:25:34 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
Germany.
The only people I think with a real claim to be naive british people
are the welsh. Even that is open to debate. After all the term British
was a creation of the Romans. So mabe the BNP are a cover for a welsh
nationalist group.
There was no real concept of being british until the 18 centuary. King
Charles 1 for example was king of the Kingdoms of England and
Scotland .
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
date: 20 Apr 2007 06:37:05 -0700
author: unknown
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
wrote in message
news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> Germany.
>
I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:55:45 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 20 Apr, 15:55, "Niteawk" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> > just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> > not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> > Germany.
>
> I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
> clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
be fine.
Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
Mike
date: 20 Apr 2007 10:14:15 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike"
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security,uk.community.social-housing
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
> As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
> left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
> be fine.
>
> Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
> debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
> that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
> Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
>
> I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
> they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
>
I watched this programme on C4 and found this review of it on the web.
There was an outstanding programme on TV tonight called 100% English. Shown
on Channel 4 it took a group of people and gave them cutting edge DNA tests
to reveal where they would have originally come from in the world -
something that can't really be ascertained by family trees even if you
manage to trace your history back many generations.
Apparently this technology is very new, and can give a global picture of
where your ancestors would have come together from, in percentages (i.e. 21%
Middle-Asia, 45% Southern Europe, etc) and then gave a second breakdown of
where in Europe the European side of the family would have originated from
before coming to England.
This alone would have made for reasonably interesting TV, but what made this
absolutely gripping was that of the ten or so members of the public that
took the test, all were either blatantly racist, all nationalists, and many
actually insane. All considered themselves, with some pride, "100% English".
For example, there was a rather scary middle aged and middle class woman who
wanted the English to be seen as a separate race, and to be treated as such.
She was talking about 1066 and the Battle Of Hastings, etc, and some
nonsense about how - in a round about way - the English were a master race.
If she sounded like a demented version of Hitler, what made it scarier was
she was being interviewed whilst strolling around a quaint country garden
looking as harmless as anything.
So all these people were interviewed, and only one of them was likable (an
impressionable 18 year old entering the army who thought that some aspects
of Englishness were being lost to immigration and although short-sighted and
misinformed wasn't in the same category as the rest), the others being truly
loathsome, bewildering and - as I say - pretty scary.
Most of all though, they were frustrating. There was a stand-up comedian,
and I use the term 'comedian' because it's the term they used in the
programme, called Danny Blue. He was filmed performing at a St Georges Day
bash at a club in Essex. The people turning up for this were absolutely
stereotypical. They all had shaved heads. All were basically BNP. Some
fantastically awful girls turned up in a stretched Hummer limo with St
George flags painted on the side, whilst inside the club Danny Blue was
naked and performing The Balloon Dance on stage.
The film said he invented the balloon dance (in which three men stand on a
stage naked holding balloons whilst doing a dance and using the balloons to
cover their modesty in certain ways) but he didn't - it was Malcolm Hardy
who invented it with Chris Lynam and Martin Soan. Anyway, he was then
interviewed in said white stretched limo outside and amongst other things
said that Ian Wright (the ex-England footballer) couldn't be English because
he was black, and that to be English, in his mind, you'd have to have twelve
generations of your family being born in England. Twelve! Nice and random.
So if you consider yourself English but eight generations ago in about 1790
or whenever one of your family came from France, you're not English. Not in
Danny Blue's eyes. So bad luck there.
So all these people were interviewed, all held this rather farcical (at
best) and utterly racist (at worst) view of England and the rest of the
world, and then they were given their results.
The woman who wanted England to be seen as a separate race turned out to me,
mainly, from Romany Gypsy stock. To read her face as this was revealed to
her was wonderful. The film then revealed she had threatened legal action if
this was shown, so well done Channel 4 there.
Danny Blue was a Russian.
I laughed, and laughed, and laughed. He was completely shocked and did then
concede that Ian Wright was English after all. And you only needed "three,
no four" generations of your family to come from England to be considered
English, not twelve. Still wrong, but an improvement of sorts.
The young army lad, who I liked, completely changed his view and accepted
that any nation is made up of immigrants.
The odd thing about nationalism, not patriotism, is that anyone should be
that fussed about being English. Nice place at it's best, pretty depressing
place at it's worst, I can't see how anyone could be annoyed at having a bit
of French blood in their ancestry, or any country for that matter. Surely
the more variation the better? I always bang on about how I'm a bit Scottish
whenever I'm north of the border. Why would an English person completely
deny the possibly of having some Scottish blood? Why would anyone furiously
deny they had some African blood, as a large percentage of white Europeans
do?
I suppose people always look for things to cling onto, and what to feel as
if they belong, but if you're trying to cling onto an idea of 'Englishness',
whatever that might entail, then you've got your head in the sand. What is
Englishness now?
Whatever, this was great TV and was presented with a deft touch and
tremendous skill by Andrew Graham-Dixon. He had the job of trying to make
these racists feel comfortable enough to expand on their wrong theories
whilst disagreeing with everything they said.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:36:22 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 18 Apr, 13:17, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> On benefits for donkey's years?
> Forgotten by the state and the politicians?
> Harassed by the DSS to force you into slave work?
> Living in poverty in the 4th richest country in the World?
>
> It is payback time! And yes you can get back to the DSS, the Labour
> Party and all the scum that has condemned you to poverty.
>
> On May the 3rd there will be elections in Britain, the best way to fuck
> off the DSS, the government and all the ruling class in this country is
> by voting the British National Party, who cares if you agree with them
> or not, no other party besides them is capable of sending a shiver down
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
highly evolved that humans.
I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
date: 19 Apr 2007 06:28:07 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
>
> There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> highly evolved that humans.
> I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
The British people will have the last laugh on you when
we get back our country.
Just fuck off home mate.
--
Customized News: http://news.spotback.com
date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:44:38 +0100
author: macarro lid
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
I woudn't call it fear. Just mild amusement.
Glad you came clear on your views though - you managed to avoid
mentioning you were a racist in your first post.
For the record, my ancestors have lived here since just after the last
ice age.
Maybe we should have a family reunion and kick you out.
Relax. Have a cup of tea and a lie down. The situation normally looks
better after that.
date: 19 Apr 2007 08:38:28 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
How very eloquent your arguments are, your predictions are way off the
mark though.
Mike
date: 19 Apr 2007 10:25:34 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
Germany.
The only people I think with a real claim to be naive british people
are the welsh. Even that is open to debate. After all the term British
was a creation of the Romans. So mabe the BNP are a cover for a welsh
nationalist group.
There was no real concept of being british until the 18 centuary. King
Charles 1 for example was king of the Kingdoms of England and
Scotland .
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
date: 20 Apr 2007 06:37:05 -0700
author: unknown
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
wrote in message
news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> Germany.
>
I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:55:45 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 20 Apr, 15:55, "Niteawk" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> > just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> > not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> > Germany.
>
> I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
> clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
be fine.
Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
Mike
date: 20 Apr 2007 10:14:15 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike"
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security,uk.community.social-housing
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
> As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
> left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
> be fine.
>
> Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
> debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
> that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
> Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
>
> I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
> they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
>
I watched this programme on C4 and found this review of it on the web.
There was an outstanding programme on TV tonight called 100% English. Shown
on Channel 4 it took a group of people and gave them cutting edge DNA tests
to reveal where they would have originally come from in the world -
something that can't really be ascertained by family trees even if you
manage to trace your history back many generations.
Apparently this technology is very new, and can give a global picture of
where your ancestors would have come together from, in percentages (i.e. 21%
Middle-Asia, 45% Southern Europe, etc) and then gave a second breakdown of
where in Europe the European side of the family would have originated from
before coming to England.
This alone would have made for reasonably interesting TV, but what made this
absolutely gripping was that of the ten or so members of the public that
took the test, all were either blatantly racist, all nationalists, and many
actually insane. All considered themselves, with some pride, "100% English".
For example, there was a rather scary middle aged and middle class woman who
wanted the English to be seen as a separate race, and to be treated as such.
She was talking about 1066 and the Battle Of Hastings, etc, and some
nonsense about how - in a round about way - the English were a master race.
If she sounded like a demented version of Hitler, what made it scarier was
she was being interviewed whilst strolling around a quaint country garden
looking as harmless as anything.
So all these people were interviewed, and only one of them was likable (an
impressionable 18 year old entering the army who thought that some aspects
of Englishness were being lost to immigration and although short-sighted and
misinformed wasn't in the same category as the rest), the others being truly
loathsome, bewildering and - as I say - pretty scary.
Most of all though, they were frustrating. There was a stand-up comedian,
and I use the term 'comedian' because it's the term they used in the
programme, called Danny Blue. He was filmed performing at a St Georges Day
bash at a club in Essex. The people turning up for this were absolutely
stereotypical. They all had shaved heads. All were basically BNP. Some
fantastically awful girls turned up in a stretched Hummer limo with St
George flags painted on the side, whilst inside the club Danny Blue was
naked and performing The Balloon Dance on stage.
The film said he invented the balloon dance (in which three men stand on a
stage naked holding balloons whilst doing a dance and using the balloons to
cover their modesty in certain ways) but he didn't - it was Malcolm Hardy
who invented it with Chris Lynam and Martin Soan. Anyway, he was then
interviewed in said white stretched limo outside and amongst other things
said that Ian Wright (the ex-England footballer) couldn't be English because
he was black, and that to be English, in his mind, you'd have to have twelve
generations of your family being born in England. Twelve! Nice and random.
So if you consider yourself English but eight generations ago in about 1790
or whenever one of your family came from France, you're not English. Not in
Danny Blue's eyes. So bad luck there.
So all these people were interviewed, all held this rather farcical (at
best) and utterly racist (at worst) view of England and the rest of the
world, and then they were given their results.
The woman who wanted England to be seen as a separate race turned out to me,
mainly, from Romany Gypsy stock. To read her face as this was revealed to
her was wonderful. The film then revealed she had threatened legal action if
this was shown, so well done Channel 4 there.
Danny Blue was a Russian.
I laughed, and laughed, and laughed. He was completely shocked and did then
concede that Ian Wright was English after all. And you only needed "three,
no four" generations of your family to come from England to be considered
English, not twelve. Still wrong, but an improvement of sorts.
The young army lad, who I liked, completely changed his view and accepted
that any nation is made up of immigrants.
The odd thing about nationalism, not patriotism, is that anyone should be
that fussed about being English. Nice place at it's best, pretty depressing
place at it's worst, I can't see how anyone could be annoyed at having a bit
of French blood in their ancestry, or any country for that matter. Surely
the more variation the better? I always bang on about how I'm a bit Scottish
whenever I'm north of the border. Why would an English person completely
deny the possibly of having some Scottish blood? Why would anyone furiously
deny they had some African blood, as a large percentage of white Europeans
do?
I suppose people always look for things to cling onto, and what to feel as
if they belong, but if you're trying to cling onto an idea of 'Englishness',
whatever that might entail, then you've got your head in the sand. What is
Englishness now?
Whatever, this was great TV and was presented with a deft touch and
tremendous skill by Andrew Graham-Dixon. He had the job of trying to make
these racists feel comfortable enough to expand on their wrong theories
whilst disagreeing with everything they said.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:36:22 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 18 Apr, 13:17, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> On benefits for donkey's years?
> Forgotten by the state and the politicians?
> Harassed by the DSS to force you into slave work?
> Living in poverty in the 4th richest country in the World?
>
> It is payback time! And yes you can get back to the DSS, the Labour
> Party and all the scum that has condemned you to poverty.
>
> On May the 3rd there will be elections in Britain, the best way to fuck
> off the DSS, the government and all the ruling class in this country is
> by voting the British National Party, who cares if you agree with them
> or not, no other party besides them is capable of sending a shiver down
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
highly evolved that humans.
I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
date: 19 Apr 2007 06:28:07 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
>
> There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> highly evolved that humans.
> I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
The British people will have the last laugh on you when
we get back our country.
Just fuck off home mate.
--
Customized News: http://news.spotback.com
date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:44:38 +0100
author: macarro lid
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
I woudn't call it fear. Just mild amusement.
Glad you came clear on your views though - you managed to avoid
mentioning you were a racist in your first post.
For the record, my ancestors have lived here since just after the last
ice age.
Maybe we should have a family reunion and kick you out.
Relax. Have a cup of tea and a lie down. The situation normally looks
better after that.
date: 19 Apr 2007 08:38:28 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
How very eloquent your arguments are, your predictions are way off the
mark though.
Mike
date: 19 Apr 2007 10:25:34 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
Germany.
The only people I think with a real claim to be naive british people
are the welsh. Even that is open to debate. After all the term British
was a creation of the Romans. So mabe the BNP are a cover for a welsh
nationalist group.
There was no real concept of being british until the 18 centuary. King
Charles 1 for example was king of the Kingdoms of England and
Scotland .
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
date: 20 Apr 2007 06:37:05 -0700
author: unknown
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
wrote in message
news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> Germany.
>
I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:55:45 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 20 Apr, 15:55, "Niteawk" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> > just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> > not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> > Germany.
>
> I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
> clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
be fine.
Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
Mike
date: 20 Apr 2007 10:14:15 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike"
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security,uk.community.social-housing
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
> As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
> left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
> be fine.
>
> Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
> debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
> that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
> Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
>
> I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
> they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
>
I watched this programme on C4 and found this review of it on the web.
There was an outstanding programme on TV tonight called 100% English. Shown
on Channel 4 it took a group of people and gave them cutting edge DNA tests
to reveal where they would have originally come from in the world -
something that can't really be ascertained by family trees even if you
manage to trace your history back many generations.
Apparently this technology is very new, and can give a global picture of
where your ancestors would have come together from, in percentages (i.e. 21%
Middle-Asia, 45% Southern Europe, etc) and then gave a second breakdown of
where in Europe the European side of the family would have originated from
before coming to England.
This alone would have made for reasonably interesting TV, but what made this
absolutely gripping was that of the ten or so members of the public that
took the test, all were either blatantly racist, all nationalists, and many
actually insane. All considered themselves, with some pride, "100% English".
For example, there was a rather scary middle aged and middle class woman who
wanted the English to be seen as a separate race, and to be treated as such.
She was talking about 1066 and the Battle Of Hastings, etc, and some
nonsense about how - in a round about way - the English were a master race.
If she sounded like a demented version of Hitler, what made it scarier was
she was being interviewed whilst strolling around a quaint country garden
looking as harmless as anything.
So all these people were interviewed, and only one of them was likable (an
impressionable 18 year old entering the army who thought that some aspects
of Englishness were being lost to immigration and although short-sighted and
misinformed wasn't in the same category as the rest), the others being truly
loathsome, bewildering and - as I say - pretty scary.
Most of all though, they were frustrating. There was a stand-up comedian,
and I use the term 'comedian' because it's the term they used in the
programme, called Danny Blue. He was filmed performing at a St Georges Day
bash at a club in Essex. The people turning up for this were absolutely
stereotypical. They all had shaved heads. All were basically BNP. Some
fantastically awful girls turned up in a stretched Hummer limo with St
George flags painted on the side, whilst inside the club Danny Blue was
naked and performing The Balloon Dance on stage.
The film said he invented the balloon dance (in which three men stand on a
stage naked holding balloons whilst doing a dance and using the balloons to
cover their modesty in certain ways) but he didn't - it was Malcolm Hardy
who invented it with Chris Lynam and Martin Soan. Anyway, he was then
interviewed in said white stretched limo outside and amongst other things
said that Ian Wright (the ex-England footballer) couldn't be English because
he was black, and that to be English, in his mind, you'd have to have twelve
generations of your family being born in England. Twelve! Nice and random.
So if you consider yourself English but eight generations ago in about 1790
or whenever one of your family came from France, you're not English. Not in
Danny Blue's eyes. So bad luck there.
So all these people were interviewed, all held this rather farcical (at
best) and utterly racist (at worst) view of England and the rest of the
world, and then they were given their results.
The woman who wanted England to be seen as a separate race turned out to me,
mainly, from Romany Gypsy stock. To read her face as this was revealed to
her was wonderful. The film then revealed she had threatened legal action if
this was shown, so well done Channel 4 there.
Danny Blue was a Russian.
I laughed, and laughed, and laughed. He was completely shocked and did then
concede that Ian Wright was English after all. And you only needed "three,
no four" generations of your family to come from England to be considered
English, not twelve. Still wrong, but an improvement of sorts.
The young army lad, who I liked, completely changed his view and accepted
that any nation is made up of immigrants.
The odd thing about nationalism, not patriotism, is that anyone should be
that fussed about being English. Nice place at it's best, pretty depressing
place at it's worst, I can't see how anyone could be annoyed at having a bit
of French blood in their ancestry, or any country for that matter. Surely
the more variation the better? I always bang on about how I'm a bit Scottish
whenever I'm north of the border. Why would an English person completely
deny the possibly of having some Scottish blood? Why would anyone furiously
deny they had some African blood, as a large percentage of white Europeans
do?
I suppose people always look for things to cling onto, and what to feel as
if they belong, but if you're trying to cling onto an idea of 'Englishness',
whatever that might entail, then you've got your head in the sand. What is
Englishness now?
Whatever, this was great TV and was presented with a deft touch and
tremendous skill by Andrew Graham-Dixon. He had the job of trying to make
these racists feel comfortable enough to expand on their wrong theories
whilst disagreeing with everything they said.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:36:22 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 18 Apr, 13:17, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> On benefits for donkey's years?
> Forgotten by the state and the politicians?
> Harassed by the DSS to force you into slave work?
> Living in poverty in the 4th richest country in the World?
>
> It is payback time! And yes you can get back to the DSS, the Labour
> Party and all the scum that has condemned you to poverty.
>
> On May the 3rd there will be elections in Britain, the best way to fuck
> off the DSS, the government and all the ruling class in this country is
> by voting the British National Party, who cares if you agree with them
> or not, no other party besides them is capable of sending a shiver down
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
highly evolved that humans.
I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
date: 19 Apr 2007 06:28:07 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
>
> There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> highly evolved that humans.
> I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
The British people will have the last laugh on you when
we get back our country.
Just fuck off home mate.
--
Customized News: http://news.spotback.com
date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:44:38 +0100
author: macarro lid
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
I woudn't call it fear. Just mild amusement.
Glad you came clear on your views though - you managed to avoid
mentioning you were a racist in your first post.
For the record, my ancestors have lived here since just after the last
ice age.
Maybe we should have a family reunion and kick you out.
Relax. Have a cup of tea and a lie down. The situation normally looks
better after that.
date: 19 Apr 2007 08:38:28 -0700
author: Zargon
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 19 Apr, 15:44, macarro <e...@is.invalid> wrote:
> > There is a news article on the web saying that chimpanzees are more
> > highly evolved that humans.
> > I wasn't sure what the story meant exactly.
> > However, now that I have read this post I understand exactly.
>
> I can clearly feel some fear down your throat.
>
> The British people will have the last laugh on you when
> we get back our country.
>
> Just fuck off home mate.
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
How very eloquent your arguments are, your predictions are way off the
mark though.
Mike
date: 19 Apr 2007 10:25:34 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
Germany.
The only people I think with a real claim to be naive british people
are the welsh. Even that is open to debate. After all the term British
was a creation of the Romans. So mabe the BNP are a cover for a welsh
nationalist group.
There was no real concept of being british until the 18 centuary. King
Charles 1 for example was king of the Kingdoms of England and
Scotland .
> the spine of the politicians, have them elected and get the Labour Party
> to invest in social housing and jobs in your area so you don't vote for
> them next time.
>
> This May the 3rd vote for your way out, vote BNP!
>
> PS: Your name will need to be in the electoral roll to vote. This advert
> is not endorsed by the BNP itself, to find more about their electoral
> program (http://www.bnp.org.uk)
>
> --
>
> Customized News:http://news.spotback.com
date: 20 Apr 2007 06:37:05 -0700
author: unknown
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
wrote in message
news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> Germany.
>
I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:55:45 +0100
author: Niteawk
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
On 20 Apr, 15:55, "Niteawk" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> news:1177076225.519954.200320@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I notice the BNP web site talks about 'native british people' . I was
> > just wondering who they mean by this. It can't be English as we are
> > not really native so perhaps the BNP are planning to send us back to
> > Germany.
>
> I think the Irish are the only true natives of England, if it wasnt for the
> clan Murphy, we would not have any roads to drive on.
As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
be fine.
Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
Mike
date: 20 Apr 2007 10:14:15 -0700
author: Mike
|
Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike"
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security,uk.community.social-housing
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Payback time, time to fuck off the DSS
> As all our ancestors can be traced back to africa there will be no one
> left to mend the roads, but as there will be no one using them that'll
> be fine.
>
> Perhaps the BNP could define 'British' for us and save this pointless
> debate. With the exception of a french great grandfather (god wasn't
> that a scandal!) all my traceable ancestors were born in britain.
> Before I cast my vote I need to know wether I'll be allowed to stay.
>
> I'm sure millions of others would also vote for the BNP if they knew
> they too would get to stay in BNP's Britain.
>
I watched this programme on C4 and found this review of it on the web.
There was an outstanding programme on TV tonight called 100% English. Shown
on Channel 4 it took a group of people and gave them cutting edge DNA tests
to reveal where they would have originally come from in the world -
something that can't really be ascertained by family trees even if you
manage to trace your history back many generations.
Apparently this technology is very new, and can give a global picture of
where your ancestors would have come together from, in percentages (i.e. 21%
Middle-Asia, 45% Southern Europe, etc) and then gave a second breakdown of
where in Europe the European side of the family would have originated from
before coming to England.
This alone would have made for reasonably interesting TV, but what made this
absolutely gripping was that of the ten or so members of the public that
took the test, all were either blatantly racist, all nationalists, and many
actually insane. All considered themselves, with some pride, "100% English".
For example, there was a rather scary middle aged and middle class woman who
wanted the English to be seen as a separate race, and to be treated as such.
She was talking about 1066 and the Battle Of Hastings, etc, and some
nonsense about how - in a round about way - the English were a master race.
If she sounded like a demented version of Hitler, what made it scarier was
she was being interviewed whilst strolling around a quaint country garden
looking as harmless as anything.
So all these people were interviewed, and only one of them was likable (an
impressionable 18 year old entering the army who thought that some aspects
of Englishness were being lost to immigration and although short-sighted and
misinformed wasn't in the same category as the rest), the others being truly
loathsome, bewildering and - as I say - pretty scary.
Most of all though, they were frustrating. There was a stand-up comedian,
and I use the term 'comedian' because it's the term they used in the
programme, called Danny Blue. He was filmed performing at a St Georges Day
bash at a club in Essex. The people turning up for this were absolutely
stereotypical. They all had shaved heads. All were basically BNP. Some
fantastically awful girls turned up in a stretched Hummer limo with St
George flags painted on the side, whilst inside the club Danny Blue was
naked and performing The Balloon Dance on stage.
The film said he invented the balloon dance (in which three men stand on a
stage naked holding balloons whilst doing a dance and using the balloons to
cover their modesty in certain ways) but he didn't - it was Malcolm Hardy
who invented it with Chris Lynam and Martin Soan. Anyway, he was then
interviewed in said white stretched limo outside and amongst other things
said that Ian Wright (the ex-England footballer) couldn't be English because
he was black, and that to be English, in his mind, you'd have to have twelve
generations of your family being born in England. Twelve! Nice and random.
So if you consider yourself English but eight generations ago in about 1790
or whenever one of your family came from France, you're not English. Not in
Danny Blue's eyes. So bad luck there.
So all these people were interviewed, all held this rather farcical (at
best) and utterly racist (at worst) view of England and the rest of the
world, and then they were given their results.
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