What a bloody disgrace. Exactly what does a police officer do to
contribute to the well being of the country's economy and how is an
obscene payment like that at all proportionate?

This is what you get when supply is disconnected from demand through
forced taxation. You get non-jobs which shouldn't exist because there
is no demand for them, and you get overpaid/underpaid jobs because
remuneration is not proportionate to demand.

Nothing like a nice well paid police force in a police state though.
Even man-monkey Mugabe appreciated that. Central planning often gets
things wrong but rarely this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/5972799/Police-constable-earns-100000-a-year.html

http://tinyurl.com/nhrzny

Police constable earns £100,000 a year
A police constable who protects dignitaries has been paid more than
£100,000 by the Metropolitan police in a year after doubling his
salary with overtime.

By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent
Published: 5:41PM BST 04 Aug 2009

New figures released by Britain's largest police force revealed that
38 officers earned six-figure sums in the last financial year

New figures released by Britain's largest police force revealed that
38 officers earned six-figure sums in the last financial year.

They range from the Commissioner to the low ranked constable, whose
basic wages of £35,000 were topped up to more than £100,000 in
2007/8.

[[A science graduate with a Masters or PhD from a top university would
be getting a damn sight less than that. How is that fair?]]

Four sergeants also earned six-figure sums even though their maximum
basic pay is about £40,000.

The Metropolitan Police declined to identify where the officers
worked, but those involved in Royal protection overseas are
traditionally among the top earners.

[[ And I must pay for such dignitaries' protection because...? Maybe
we should let those VIPs pay for their own protection like everyone
else?]]

Sir Paul Stephenson, the head of Scotland Yard, has recently written
to the Home Secretary to raise fears that the unit which protects
VIPs, including members of the Royal family, is "overstretched".

Senior officers have warned that they do not receive enough extra cash
to cover royal and diplomatic duties and the lack of officer numbers
means that protection teams can work up to 70 hours a week, pushing up
the overtime bill.

Overtime is believed to cost the 43 police forces in England and Wales
about £485 million every year.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Officers' total earnings can
include salary, overtime, allowances and bonuses as appropriate.

"Overtime is only called upon when it is essential to maintain
operational effectiveness.

"Policing is a dynamic 24/7 service, we have capital city and national
responsibilities and there are times when we genuinely need to call on
officers to work beyond their scheduled hours.

"We keep careful tab on levels of overtime and report on this
regularly to individual business groups and the Metropolitan Police
Authority (MPA).

"Chief constables may award bonuses of between £50 and £500 per head
for occasional work of an outstandingly demanding, unpleasant or
important nature, for example hostage negotiation, or fingerprinting
and searching badly decomposed bodies."

[[Oh FFS they end up as coppers because they're too dumb to become a
mathematician, too untalented to become a musician, too lazy to become
a handyman and too much of a bully to pass up hitting unarmed men in
the back or shooting them in the head.

Don't complain about the job's unpleasantness when there are doctors
out there who have to do prostatic massages, nurses who have to change
bedpans, highway engineers who have to maintain mile-after-mile of
highways, sanitation workers who have to etc...]]

N5

On 4 Aug, 18:40, November 5  wrote:
> What a bloody disgrace. Exactly what does a police officer do to
> contribute to the well being of the country's economy and how is an
> obscene payment like that at all proportionate?
>
> This is what you get when supply is disconnected from demand through
> forced taxation. You get non-jobs which shouldn't exist because there
> is no demand for them, and you get overpaid/underpaid jobs because
> remuneration is not proportionate to demand.
>
> Nothing like a nice well paid police force in a police state though.
> Even man-monkey Mugabe appreciated that. Central planning often gets
> things wrong but rarely this.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/59727...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/nhrzny
>
> Police constable earns £100,000 a year
> A police constable who protects dignitaries has been paid more than
> £100,000 by the Metropolitan police in a year after doubling his
> salary with overtime.
>
> By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent
> Published: 5:41PM BST 04 Aug 2009
>
> New figures released by Britain's largest police force revealed that
> 38 officers earned six-figure sums in the last financial year
>
> New figures released by Britain's largest police force revealed that
> 38 officers earned six-figure sums in the last financial year.
>
> They range from the Commissioner to the low ranked constable, whose
> basic wages of £35,000 were topped up to more than £100,000 in
> 2007/8.
>
> [[A science graduate with a Masters or PhD from a top university would
> be getting a damn sight less than that. How is that fair?]]
>
> Four sergeants also earned six-figure sums even though their maximum
> basic pay is about £40,000.
>
> The Metropolitan Police declined to identify where the officers
> worked, but those involved in Royal protection overseas are
> traditionally among the top earners.
>
> [[ And I must pay for such dignitaries' protection because...? Maybe
> we should let those VIPs pay for their own protection like everyone
> else?]]
>
> Sir Paul Stephenson, the head of Scotland Yard, has recently written
> to the Home Secretary to raise fears that the unit which protects
> VIPs, including members of the Royal family, is "overstretched".
>
> Senior officers have warned that they do not receive enough extra cash
> to cover royal and diplomatic duties and the lack of officer numbers
> means that protection teams can work up to 70 hours a week, pushing up
> the overtime bill.
>
> Overtime is believed to cost the 43 police forces in England and Wales
> about £485 million every year.
>
> A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Officers' total earnings can
> include salary, overtime, allowances and bonuses as appropriate.
>
> "Overtime is only called upon when it is essential to maintain
> operational effectiveness.
>
> "Policing is a dynamic 24/7 service, we have capital city and national
> responsibilities and there are times when we genuinely need to call on
> officers to work beyond their scheduled hours.
>
> "We keep careful tab on levels of overtime and report on this
> regularly to individual business groups and the Metropolitan Police
> Authority (MPA).
>
> "Chief constables may award bonuses of between £50 and £500 per head
> for occasional work of an outstandingly demanding, unpleasant or
> important nature, for example hostage negotiation, or fingerprinting
> and searching badly decomposed bodies."
>
> [[Oh FFS they end up as coppers because they're too dumb to become a
> mathematician, too untalented to become a musician, too lazy to become
> a handyman and too much of a bully to pass up hitting unarmed men in
> the back or shooting them in the head.
>
> Don't complain about the job's unpleasantness when there are doctors
> out there who have to do prostatic massages, nurses who have to change
> bedpans, highway engineers who have to maintain mile-after-mile of
> highways, sanitation workers who have to etc...]]
>
> N5

Oh dear.

The politics of envy. Did you get thrown out of Hendon?

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:42:48 -0700, sutartsorric wrote:

> On 4 Aug, 18:40, November 5  wrote:
>> What a bloody disgrace. Exactly what does a police officer do to
>> contribute to the well being of the country's economy and how is an
>> obscene payment like that at all proportionate?
>>
>> This is what you get when supply is disconnected from demand through
>> forced taxation. You get non-jobs which shouldn't exist because there
>> is no demand for them, and you get overpaid/underpaid jobs because
>> remuneration is not proportionate to demand.
>>
>> Nothing like a nice well paid police force in a police state though.
>> Even man-monkey Mugabe appreciated that. Central planning often gets
>> things wrong but rarely this.
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/
lawandorder/59727...
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/nhrzny
>>
>> Police constable earns £100,000 a year A police constable who protects
>> dignitaries has been paid more than £100,000 by the Metropolitan police
>> in a year after doubling his salary with overtime.
>>
>> By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent Published: 5:41PM BST 04 Aug
>> 2009
>>
>> New figures released by Britain's largest police force revealed that 38
>> officers earned six-figure sums in the last financial year
>>
>> New figures released by Britain's largest police force revealed that 38
>> officers earned six-figure sums in the last financial year.
>>
>> They range from the Commissioner to the low ranked constable, whose
>> basic wages of £35,000 were topped up to more than £100,000 in 2007/8.
>>
>> [[A science graduate with a Masters or PhD from a top university would
>> be getting a damn sight less than that. How is that fair?]]
>>
>> Four sergeants also earned six-figure sums even though their maximum
>> basic pay is about £40,000.
>>
>> The Metropolitan Police declined to identify where the officers worked,
>> but those involved in Royal protection overseas are traditionally among
>> the top earners.
>>
>> [[ And I must pay for such dignitaries' protection because...? Maybe we
>> should let those VIPs pay for their own protection like everyone
>> else?]]
>>
>> Sir Paul Stephenson, the head of Scotland Yard, has recently written to
>> the Home Secretary to raise fears that the unit which protects VIPs,
>> including members of the Royal family, is "overstretched".
>>
>> Senior officers have warned that they do not receive enough extra cash
>> to cover royal and diplomatic duties and the lack of officer numbers
>> means that protection teams can work up to 70 hours a week, pushing up
>> the overtime bill.
>>
>> Overtime is believed to cost the 43 police forces in England and Wales
>> about £485 million every year.
>>
>> A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Officers' total earnings can
>> include salary, overtime, allowances and bonuses as appropriate.
>>
>> "Overtime is only called upon when it is essential to maintain
>> operational effectiveness.
>>
>> "Policing is a dynamic 24/7 service, we have capital city and national
>> responsibilities and there are times when we genuinely need to call on
>> officers to work beyond their scheduled hours.
>>
>> "We keep careful tab on levels of overtime and report on this regularly
>> to individual business groups and the Metropolitan Police Authority
>> (MPA).
>>
>> "Chief constables may award bonuses of between £50 and £500 per head
>> for occasional work of an outstandingly demanding, unpleasant or
>> important nature, for example hostage negotiation, or fingerprinting
>> and searching badly decomposed bodies."
>>
>> [[Oh FFS they end up as coppers because they're too dumb to become a
>> mathematician, too untalented to become a musician, too lazy to become
>> a handyman and too much of a bully to pass up hitting unarmed men in
>> the back or shooting them in the head.
>>
>> Don't complain about the job's unpleasantness when there are doctors
>> out there who have to do prostatic massages, nurses who have to change
>> bedpans, highway engineers who have to maintain mile-after-mile of
>> highways, sanitation workers who have to etc...]]
>>
>> N5
> 
> Oh dear.
> 
> The politics of envy. Did you get thrown out of Hendon?

well its handy to portray it as such, but that seems a pretty standard 
trick to me...

£100k for one policeman? at double/triple time? why not hire 3 policemen?

£35k isn't peanuts for starters.

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:12:35 +0000, FrereTuck wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:42:48 -0700, sutartsorric wrote:
> 
>> On 4 Aug, 18:40, November 5  wrote:
>>> What a bloody disgrace. Exactly what does a police officer do to
>>> contribute to the well being of the country's economy and how is an
>>> obscene payment like that at all proportionate?
>>>
>>> This is what you get when supply is disconnected from demand through
>>> forced taxation. You get non-jobs which shouldn't exist because there
>>> is no demand for them, and you get overpaid/underpaid jobs because
>>> remuneration is not proportionate to demand.
>>>
>>> Nothing like a nice well paid police force in a police state though.
>>> Even man-monkey Mugabe appreciated that. Central planning often gets
>>> things wrong but rarely this.
>>>
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/
> lawandorder/59727...
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/nhrzny
>>>
>>> Police constable earns £100,000 a year A police constable who protects
>>> dignitaries has been paid more than £100,000 by the Metropolitan
>>> police in a year after doubling his salary with overtime.
>>>
>>> By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent Published: 5:41PM BST 04 Aug
>>> 2009
>>>
>>> New figures released by Britain's largest police force revealed that
>>> 38 officers earned six-figure sums in the last financial year
>>>
>>> New figures released by Britain's largest police force revealed that
>>> 38 officers earned six-figure sums in the last financial year.
>>>
>>> They range from the Commissioner to the low ranked constable, whose
>>> basic wages of £35,000 were topped up to more than £100,000 in 2007/8.
>>>
>>> [[A science graduate with a Masters or PhD from a top university would
>>> be getting a damn sight less than that. How is that fair?]]
>>>
>>> Four sergeants also earned six-figure sums even though their maximum
>>> basic pay is about £40,000.
>>>
>>> The Metropolitan Police declined to identify where the officers
>>> worked, but those involved in Royal protection overseas are
>>> traditionally among the top earners.
>>>
>>> [[ And I must pay for such dignitaries' protection because...? Maybe
>>> we should let those VIPs pay for their own protection like everyone
>>> else?]]
>>>
>>> Sir Paul Stephenson, the head of Scotland Yard, has recently written
>>> to the Home Secretary to raise fears that the unit which protects
>>> VIPs, including members of the Royal family, is "overstretched".
>>>
>>> Senior officers have warned that they do not receive enough extra cash
>>> to cover royal and diplomatic duties and the lack of officer numbers
>>> means that protection teams can work up to 70 hours a week, pushing up
>>> the overtime bill.
>>>
>>> Overtime is believed to cost the 43 police forces in England and Wales
>>> about £485 million every year.
>>>
>>> A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Officers' total earnings can
>>> include salary, overtime, allowances and bonuses as appropriate.
>>>
>>> "Overtime is only called upon when it is essential to maintain
>>> operational effectiveness.
>>>
>>> "Policing is a dynamic 24/7 service, we have capital city and national
>>> responsibilities and there are times when we genuinely need to call on
>>> officers to work beyond their scheduled hours.
>>>
>>> "We keep careful tab on levels of overtime and report on this
>>> regularly to individual business groups and the Metropolitan Police
>>> Authority (MPA).
>>>
>>> "Chief constables may award bonuses of between £50 and £500 per head
>>> for occasional work of an outstandingly demanding, unpleasant or
>>> important nature, for example hostage negotiation, or fingerprinting
>>> and searching badly decomposed bodies."
>>>
>>> [[Oh FFS they end up as coppers because they're too dumb to become a
>>> mathematician, too untalented to become a musician, too lazy to become
>>> a handyman and too much of a bully to pass up hitting unarmed men in
>>> the back or shooting them in the head.
>>>
>>> Don't complain about the job's unpleasantness when there are doctors
>>> out there who have to do prostatic massages, nurses who have to change
>>> bedpans, highway engineers who have to maintain mile-after-mile of
>>> highways, sanitation workers who have to etc...]]
>>>
>>> N5
>> 
>> Oh dear.
>> 
>> The politics of envy. Did you get thrown out of Hendon?
> 
> well its handy to portray it as such, but that seems a pretty standard
> trick to me...
> 
> £100k for one policeman? at double/triple time? why not hire 3
> policemen?
> 
> £35k isn't peanuts for starters.

though the daily mail (ah no actually the sahn) informs me certain people 
claim that much just in housing benefit... like old hook the terrorist 
boogeymans missus and n*average children for example... £1030 p/w...

now tell me he/she ain't serving someones purpose ;)