On 14 Feb, 20:12, Cynic  wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:53:42 -0800 (PST), Oppressed Subject
>
>  wrote:
> >140,000 police (present levels) simply can't police 61 million people,
> >even if they were all saints. It takes 61 million people to police 61
> >million people.
>
> Nonsense.  In any society, the percentage of criminals is vastly
> outnumbered by the number of non-criminals.
>
> (I am only speaking of "real" criminals, not people who break speed
> limits or drop litter)
>
> --
> Cynic

What I meant is that you only get near omnipresent policing (with the
exception of solitary crimes or all victims being dead) if the system
self-polices. Otherwise you will always have the issue of having to
rely on the police to be there when they're needed, on time and to act
in another's interests and not their own.