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date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:43:49 -0000,
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Droitwich Progress
I went for a walk along the Droitwich from Porter's Mill this morning and
found to my delight that the towing path is now unobstructed all the way to
the Severn. With apologies for the poor quality, here are some shots taken
from my mobile phone.
As you approach the new culvert from the east, it can be seen that it
proudly wears its new bridge number 2:
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=A449CulvertEast.jpg
Both the cut itself and the towing path (which seems to be DDA-compliant)
are built to the most grandiose proportions. The view from the west end:
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=A449CulvertWest.jpg
The cut immediately to the west seems to have been more or less completely
redug:
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=HawfordCut.jpg
The second lock up appears within yards:
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=Hawford2.jpg
This lock is quite deep - in contrast to the entrance lock, which is quite
shallow. When the river is in flood, it will flood up to and into the second
lock up.
Again, it is just round the corner to the entrance lock:
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=HawfordLock.jpg
This next shot, taken from the same place, shows the very sharp turn if
heading from Droitwich to Stourport:
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=HawfordLockSevern.jpg
Again, from amost the same place, the view towards Worcester:
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=Severn.jpg
Some parts of the cut will still need some clearance:
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=SomeObstructions.jpg
While in other parts, all that will be required is a steely nerve:
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=OtherObstructions.jpg
All of the broad locks up to Droitwich are now partly or completely
restored, and it is possible to walk the entire length from Hanbury Junction
to Hawford - with only minor deviations at the M5 and in Droitwich.
Regards
Jonathan
date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:43:49 -0000
author: Jonathan Morton
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Re: Droitwich Progress
"Jonathan Morton" wrote in
message news:qtGdnesU4_ilxnHXnZ2dnUVZ8gKdnZ2d@bt.com...
>I went for a walk along the Droitwich from Porter's Mill this morning and
>found to my delight that the towing path is now unobstructed all the way to
>the Severn. With apologies for the poor quality, here are some shots taken
>from my mobile phone.
>
sic
> All of the broad locks up to Droitwich are now partly or completely
> restored, and it is possible to walk the entire length from Hanbury
> Junction to Hawford - with only minor deviations at the M5 and in
> Droitwich.
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan
>
Thanks for those Jonathan.
Co-incidentally Michel vdb is also featuring the same stretch on fubc.
Still a long way to go on the in-channel vegetation front was my overall
impression.
Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com
date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:43:22 -0000
author: Pete Stockdale
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Re: Droitwich Progress
Jonathan Morton wrote:
> I went for a walk along the Droitwich from Porter's Mill this morning
> and found to my delight that the towing path is now unobstructed all
> the way to the Severn. With apologies for the poor quality, here are
> some shots taken from my mobile phone.
>
> As you approach the new culvert from the east, it can be seen that it
> proudly wears its new bridge number 2:
>
> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=A449CulvertEast.jpg
>
> Both the cut itself and the towing path (which seems to be
> DDA-compliant) are built to the most grandiose proportions. The view
> from the west end:
> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=A449CulvertWest.jpg
>
> The cut immediately to the west seems to have been more or less
> completely redug:
>
> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=HawfordCut.jpg
>
> The second lock up appears within yards:
>
> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=Hawford2.jpg
>
> This lock is quite deep - in contrast to the entrance lock, which is
> quite shallow. When the river is in flood, it will flood up to and
> into the second lock up.
>
> Again, it is just round the corner to the entrance lock:
>
> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=HawfordLock.jpg
>
> This next shot, taken from the same place, shows the very sharp turn
> if heading from Droitwich to Stourport:
>
> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=HawfordLockSevern.jpg
>
> Again, from amost the same place, the view towards Worcester:
>
> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=Severn.jpg
>
> Some parts of the cut will still need some clearance:
>
> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=SomeObstructions.jpg
>
> While in other parts, all that will be required is a steely nerve:
>
> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=OtherObstructions.jpg
>
> All of the broad locks up to Droitwich are now partly or completely
> restored, and it is possible to walk the entire length from Hanbury
> Junction to Hawford - with only minor deviations at the M5 and in
> Droitwich.
Pretty good photos from a telephone. I use the microwave oven to tell the
time. Where next?
Your photo of the Hawford Cut puzzles me. Is that a concrete stop that I
see? If so what are the dimensions?
date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:21:47 -0000
author: Clot
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Re: Droitwich Progress
"Clot" wrote in message
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>
> Your photo of the Hawford Cut puzzles me. Is that a concrete stop that I
> see? If so what are the dimensions?
No, there's no stop - that's just a reflection. The dimensions through the
culvert are well over 7 feet in width - probably about 12 or possibly even
the full 14, perhaps surprisingly as one might have expected them to save
money on this aspect given the presumably low level of broad traffic. It's
also surprising, given that the angle of approach, coupled with the
relatively narrow channel, means you would struggle with anything much wider
than a narrow boat.
The towing path through the culvert is equally grand - about 3 feet wide,
cantilevered off the side wall and with hand rails on the cut side
(obviously) and on the wall side also. The wall is just the steel piling.
I've noticed the dog appears in several of the photos - looking suitably
thrilled. She gave the swans a very wide berth - there was a lot of nasty
hissing.
Regards
Jonathan
date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:12:34 -0000
author: Jonathan Morton
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Re: Droitwich Progress
Jonathan Morton wrote:
> "Clot" wrote in message
> news:NT1Hm.30802$zt3.11519@newsfe03.ams2...
>>
>> Your photo of the Hawford Cut puzzles me. Is that a concrete stop
>> that I see? If so what are the dimensions?
>
> No, there's no stop - that's just a reflection.
Ah, thanks.
The dimensions
> through the culvert are well over 7 feet in width - probably about 12
> or possibly even the full 14, perhaps surprisingly as one might have
> expected them to save money on this aspect given the presumably low
> level of broad traffic. It's also surprising, given that the angle of
> approach, coupled with the relatively narrow channel, means you would
> struggle with anything much wider than a narrow boat.
>
> The towing path through the culvert is equally grand - about 3 feet
> wide, cantilevered off the side wall and with hand rails on the cut
> side (obviously) and on the wall side also. The wall is just the
> steel piling.
> I've noticed the dog appears in several of the photos - looking
> suitably thrilled. She gave the swans a very wide berth - there was a
> lot of nasty hissing.
I'm afraid our dog would not be so wise!
date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:41:11 -0000
author: Clot
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Re: Droitwich Progress
"Clot" wrote in message
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>> I've noticed the dog appears in several of the photos - looking
>> suitably thrilled. She gave the swans a very wide berth - there was a
>> lot of nasty hissing.
>
> I'm afraid our dog would not be so wise!
On the Junction Canal, the new cut to the east of the M5 is complete (with
new locks 4/5 - a staircase pair - and 6). This leads to the culvert under
the motorway, with a further stretch of new cut ending at the new Lock 7, at
approximately Grid Ref 906634. This lock will take the new navigation down
into the River Salwarpe. At present it looks very odd, because a bund has
been left in place at the tail of the lock, with just a small run-off to
take a trickle of water. The new navigation will use about 300 metres more
of the river than the old - i.e. it enters the river further east - because
a number of properties to the north of Hanbury Road have been erected over
the old course of the cut - you can just see the remains of the old lock,
under a building, which lowered the canal into the river for the short
stretch under the bridge to the east of the barge lock. Some work is going
to be needed on the river section - at present (well, yesterday anyway) a
canoe would go aground.
I presume that the river clearance will be the last work to be tackled, and
I think I read somewhere that this Lock 7 will have an odd arrangement in
which the bottom paddle culverts will take the water from the lock as it
empties and channel it all the way to below the barge lock - presumably this
is to minimise the risk of messing about with the salinity and/or the levels
of the Salwarpe.
As noted upthread, quite a lot of the reed clearance work still needs to be
done on the broad canal. Part of the deal has involved planting of more
reed-beds elsewhere, and I believe this is to be done this winter.
I'll try to get some decent pictures of the area next time my wife drags me
to Waitrose in Droitwich.
Regards
Jonathan
date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:21:11 -0000
author: Jonathan Morton
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Re: Droitwich Progress
Jonathan Morton wrote:
Thanks for the pictures I really enjoyed them.
> The second lock up appears within yards:
>
> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=Hawford2.jpg
>
> This lock is quite deep - in contrast to the entrance lock, which is quite
> shallow. When the river is in flood, it will flood up to and into the second
> lock up.
So has Pluto the pipeline gone. It crossed this lock near the bottom
gates, it has been scheduled to be moved for years but was still there
when I lasts walked down there a year or so ago, and I can't work out if
its there in your picture.
--
cheers Ian Mac
date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:31:56 +0000
author: Ian McCarthy idm.plusnetng@cronkshawFULLSTOPnospanDOTcom
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Re: Droitwich Progress
Good day everybody,
>>
>
> Thanks for those Jonathan.
> Co-incidentally Michel vdb is also featuring the same stretch on fubc.
>
http://www.thebw.net/Canal2/canal203.html
> Still a long way to go on the in-channel vegetation front was my overall
> impression.
>
for the lastest finishing touch, you should apply for master volunteer.
:-))
--
Michel Van den Berghe
Walking the BW: http://www.thebw.net
date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:47:45 +0100
author: Michel Van den Berghe
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Re: Droitwich Progress
"Ian McCarthy" <idm.plusnetng@cronkshawFULLSTOPnospanDOTcom> wrote in
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> Jonathan Morton wrote:
>
> Thanks for the pictures I really enjoyed them.
>
>> The second lock up appears within yards:
>>
>> http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/JonathanMorton/Droitwich/?action=view¤t=Hawford2.jpg
>>
>> This lock is quite deep - in contrast to the entrance lock, which is
>> quite shallow. When the river is in flood, it will flood up to and into
>> the second lock up.
>
> So has Pluto the pipeline gone. It crossed this lock near the bottom
> gates, it has been scheduled to be moved for years but was still there
> when I lasts walked down there a year or so ago, and I can't work out if
> its there in your picture.
I certainly didn't see anything. There is now a footbridge just below the
bottom gates, but I don't think there was a pipe under it. To be honest I
was just amazed at the transformation. Last time I went to this lock about a
year ago there was a bridge across the middle of the lock - and the whole
place was a right dump in every sense of the word.
Regards
Jonathan
date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:14:05 -0000
author: Jonathan Morton
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Re: Droitwich Progress
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:12:34 -0000, "Jonathan Morton"
wrote:
>No, there's no stop - that's just a reflection. The dimensions through the
>culvert are well over 7 feet in width - probably about 12 or possibly even
>the full 14, perhaps surprisingly as one might have expected them to save
>money on this aspect given the presumably low level of broad traffic. It's
>also surprising, given that the angle of approach, coupled with the
>relatively narrow channel, means you would struggle with anything much wider
>than a narrow boat.
Ah yes, the old "inland waterways boat = narrow boat" chauvinism.
Er, hadn't you noticed that the name of this waterway is "Droitwich
Barge Canal"? And that it is accessed by the River Severn, a
seriously wide-gauge navigation, on which many of the craft are
largest than narrow boats?
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:43:22 -0000, "Pete Stockdale"
wrote:
>Still a long way to go on the in-channel vegetation front was my overall
>impression.
This has been a concern right from the start of the project. The DCT
has been very reluctant to state either the gauge that the waterway is
being restored to, or the channel profile being achieved.
I've been told this is to avoid upsetting the "nature" folk, who don't
want any dreding at all for fear of damage to the reed beds that have
proliferated alarmingly during the years of dereliction.
How embarrassing is it going to be when the first full-gauge barge
arrives! I can see the headline now, "Restored Barge Canal Unusable
By Barges".
The sensible way to restore (and maintain) a waterway is to its
original gauge.
Adrian
Adrian Stott
adrian@unspam.ca
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:54:50 +0000
author: Adrian Stott
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Re: Droitwich Progress
"Adrian Stott" wrote in message
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> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:12:34 -0000, "Jonathan Morton"
> wrote:
>
>
>>No, there's no stop - that's just a reflection. The dimensions through the
>>culvert are well over 7 feet in width - probably about 12 or possibly even
>>the full 14, perhaps surprisingly as one might have expected them to save
>>money on this aspect given the presumably low level of broad traffic. It's
>>also surprising, given that the angle of approach, coupled with the
>>relatively narrow channel, means you would struggle with anything much
>>wider
>>than a narrow boat.
>
> Ah yes, the old "inland waterways boat = narrow boat" chauvinism.
>
> Er, hadn't you noticed that the name of this waterway is "Droitwich
> Barge Canal"? And that it is accessed by the River Severn, a
> seriously wide-gauge navigation, on which many of the craft are
> largest than narrow boats?
Er, precisely where did I display the chauvinism or stupidity attributed to
me by the noble baronet?
I am well aware that the canal is broad. I said that it was surprising -
given that one would probably not be able to get a 14-ft boat to the eastern
entrance to the A449 culvert because the channel is narrow - that the
culvert itself had been made so wide (presumably at greater expense).
Regards
Jonathan
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:03:41 -0000
author: Jonathan Morton
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