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date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:28:21 GMT,
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Camcorder : DVD v HDD
I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
comparision.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:28:21 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
--
My reply address is valid, but incoming mail is set to 'auto-delete'
so will not be seen. Please post replies to the group.
XPS M1710 / 2.16 GHz dual core / 2Gb DDR2 / nVidia GeForce 7950GTX
date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
--
My reply address is valid, but incoming mail is set to 'auto-delete'
so will not be seen. Please post replies to the group.
XPS M1710 / 2.16 GHz dual core / 2Gb DDR2 / nVidia GeForce 7950GTX
date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
--
My reply address is valid, but incoming mail is set to 'auto-delete'
so will not be seen. Please post replies to the group.
XPS M1710 / 2.16 GHz dual core / 2Gb DDR2 / nVidia GeForce 7950GTX
date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
--
My reply address is valid, but incoming mail is set to 'auto-delete'
so will not be seen. Please post replies to the group.
XPS M1710 / 2.16 GHz dual core / 2Gb DDR2 / nVidia GeForce 7950GTX
date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
--
My reply address is valid, but incoming mail is set to 'auto-delete'
so will not be seen. Please post replies to the group.
XPS M1710 / 2.16 GHz dual core / 2Gb DDR2 / nVidia GeForce 7950GTX
date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
--
My reply address is valid, but incoming mail is set to 'auto-delete'
so will not be seen. Please post replies to the group.
XPS M1710 / 2.16 GHz dual core / 2Gb DDR2 / nVidia GeForce 7950GTX
date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
--
My reply address is valid, but incoming mail is set to 'auto-delete'
so will not be seen. Please post replies to the group.
XPS M1710 / 2.16 GHz dual core / 2Gb DDR2 / nVidia GeForce 7950GTX
date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
--
My reply address is valid, but incoming mail is set to 'auto-delete'
so will not be seen. Please post replies to the group.
XPS M1710 / 2.16 GHz dual core / 2Gb DDR2 / nVidia GeForce 7950GTX
date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
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date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
--
My reply address is valid, but incoming mail is set to 'auto-delete'
so will not be seen. Please post replies to the group.
XPS M1710 / 2.16 GHz dual core / 2Gb DDR2 / nVidia GeForce 7950GTX
date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Hi-8 Sony camcorder and wish to upgrade to a
> newer model. I have searched the web but cannot find good camcorder
> review sites or talk about pro and cons of the media types.
>
> Can anyone help please? Incedently I quite like the Sony SR72 HDD but
> have not seen a review of it yet. Have seen some US reviews but the
> model numbers look different to UK so am not too sure about
> comparision.
Try:
www.camcorderinfo.com
You want to get a MiniDV model.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
SR72 is not mentioned at all.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:27:58 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Thanks. Seen this site before - still difficult to compare UK
> available models here as the products appear to be different. e.g.
> SR72 is not mentioned at all.
True - some vendors e.g. Canon use different product codes in the US.
You have to go through the vendor's list of products and find the one
that looks like the the one you are interested in - compare chip size,
etc. I did that when when getting my MVX35 which turns out to be the
Optura 500 or something.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:34:26 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>In article , a@aol.com
>wrote:
>
>Try:
>
>www.camcorderinfo.com
>
>You want to get a MiniDV model.
Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
ones.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:24 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
In article , a@aol.com
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:05:06 +0100, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
> >In article , a@aol.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >www.camcorderinfo.com
> >
> >You want to get a MiniDV model.
>
> Interesting - you have recommended a MiniDV which I had ignored in the
> first instance as it has ben around for a long time and I, rightly or
> wrongly, considered it to be old technology. Having thought about it,
> I am now inclined to go for a MiniDV as you suggested as there seems
> to be very good spec ones available for the price of the lower end HDD
> ones.
It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
compression software to do a good job.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100
author: Tim Streater
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Yeah. And not just "better" the way Betamax was "better" than VHS.
Mini-dv is still very much alive and kicking.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:42:56 +0100
author: Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:
>It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>compression software to do a good job.
Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
for a budget of up to £300.
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
author: unknown
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:17 GMT
from the village of a@aol.com
felt we might be interested in the following...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:30 퍝, Tim Streater
> wrote:
>
>
> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
> >compression software to do a good job.
>
> Thanks guys. Any recommendation for a make, model please? i am looking
> for a budget of up to £300.
Panasonic GS230 - just got one myself. Lovely little thing, and has mic
inout and heaphone out as well as a 'shoe' on top for accessories.
I got mine from purelygadgets.co.uk
HTH
--
My reply address is valid, but incoming mail is set to 'auto-delete'
so will not be seen. Please post replies to the group.
XPS M1710 / 2.16 GHz dual core / 2Gb DDR2 / nVidia GeForce 7950GTX
date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100
author: Tx2
|
Re: Camcorder : DVD v HDD
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:45:17 +0100, Tx2
wrote:
>> >It may be "old" technology, but it's *better* technology than DVD or
>> >HDD, as it does less compression in the camera. You want to do as little
>> >work in the camera as possible, since it has to be done in real time.
>> >When you post-process the video later, you have the advantage of much
>> >more powerful processors and as much time as you need for the
>> >compression software to do a good job.
I'm new to this too but have been asked to download some dv tapes and
burn them to disc. The camcorder is a panasonic pv-gs19 NTSC brought
back from america when my daughter returned. I have no problem
capturing the dv to .avi, a 40 minute video p | |