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date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 09:32:02 -0800 (PST),    group: uk.rec.subterranea        back       
Time Team, Sunday Feb 10th   
Time Team on Channel 4 tomorrow features a dig in Shooters HIll
looking for WW2 defences and what they TV guide calls "bunkers". Might
be worth a look, even if the bunkers turn out to be an old air raid
shelter.

 Neill
date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 09:32:02 -0800 (PST)   author:   Neill

Re: Time Team, Sunday Feb 10th   
Many thanks for this tip - I would otherwise have missed it. Most 
interesting.

Les.

"Neill"  wrote in message 
news:f43fd647-389e-4958-944e-c38d30f40238@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Time Team on Channel 4 tomorrow features a dig in Shooters HIll
> looking for WW2 defences and what they TV guide calls "bunkers". Might
> be worth a look, even if the bunkers turn out to be an old air raid
> shelter.
>
> Neill
date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:12:45 -0000   author:   Les.

Re: Time Team, Sunday Feb 10th   
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:12:45 +0000, Les. wrote
> Many thanks for this tip - I would otherwise have missed it. Most 
> interesting.
> 
> Les.
> 
> "Neill"  wrote in message 
> news:f43fd647-389e-4958-944e-c38d30f40238@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> Time Team on Channel 4 tomorrow features a dig in Shooters HIll
>> looking for WW2 defences and what they TV guide calls "bunkers". Might
>> be worth a look, even if the bunkers turn out to be an old air raid
>> shelter.
>> 
>> Neill 

So, what WAS the mysterious 'secret control centre' they found?  Any ideas?
date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:18:05 +0000   author:   Stimpy

Re: Time Team, Sunday Feb 10th   
See http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/s/shooters_hill/index.shtml for 
a few pictures of the bunker taken a couple of years ago.

Vic
"Stimpy"  wrote in message 
news:0001HW.C3D50C7D0287073AF0407648@news.eclipse.co.uk...
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:12:45 +0000, Les. wrote
>> Many thanks for this tip - I would otherwise have missed it. Most
>> interesting.
>>
>> Les.
>>
>> "Neill"  wrote in message
>> news:f43fd647-389e-4958-944e-c38d30f40238@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Time Team on Channel 4 tomorrow features a dig in Shooters HIll
>>> looking for WW2 defences and what they TV guide calls "bunkers". Might
>>> be worth a look, even if the bunkers turn out to be an old air raid
>>> shelter.
>>>
>>> Neill
>
> So, what WAS the mysterious 'secret control centre' they found?  Any 
> ideas?
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:42:02 GMT   author:   Vic Youel

Re: Time Team, Sunday Feb 10th   
"Stimpy"  wrote in message 
news:0001HW.C3D50C7D0287073AF0407648@news.eclipse.co.uk...

> So, what WAS the mysterious 'secret control centre' they found?  Any 
> ideas?

It looks like a mysterious secret control centre.

:-)

-- 
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."
date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:16:29 -0000   author:   Brian Watson

Re: Time Team, Sunday Feb 10th   
On Feb 11, 8:16 am, "Brian Watson"  wrote:
> "Stimpy"  wrote in message
>
> news:0001HW.C3D50C7D0287073AF0407648@news.eclipse.co.uk...
>
> > So, what WAS the mysterious 'secret control centre' they found?  Any
> > ideas?
>
> It looks like a mysterious secret control centre.
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Brian
> "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

It seems to big to be a Home Guard radio hide, and a bit too obvious.
Some sort of battle headquarters for the defences in the area would be
more likely. As for the other shelter, they should have visited the
Subrit site beforehand and save themsewlves a lot of time!

Neill
date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:17:07 -0800 (PST)   author:   Neill

Re: Time Team, Sunday Feb 10th   
"> It seems to big to be a Home Guard radio hide, and a bit too obvious.
> Some sort of battle headquarters for the defences in the area would be
> more likely. As for the other shelter, they should have visited the
> Subrit site beforehand and save themsewlves a lot of time!
>
> Neill

Indeed, all the Auxiliary unit hides identified so far appear to have been 
much better camouflaged and in remoter locations. I guess there is the 
possibility that it was a Zero Radio Station, but again it seems a little 
too obvious despite the rockery.

The only thing that I am still a little unsure about with the air Raid 
shelter is the function of the flanged 'pipes'.
The explanation calling them supports for the earth rebuttment does not 
explain the flanges, and why elsewhere on the site the more normal angle 
iron stakes were used for that purpose.

Regards
Jeff
date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:46:50 -0000   author:   Jeff

Re: Time Team, Sunday Feb 10th   
The message <47b019ba$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com>
from "Jeff"  contains these words:


> The only thing that I am still a little unsure about with the air Raid 
> shelter is the function of the flanged 'pipes'.
> The explanation calling them supports for the earth rebuttment does not 
> explain the flanges, and why elsewhere on the site the more normal angle 
> iron stakes were used for that purpose.


They looked a little like what you would see at the bottom of a radio
mast but I would have expected them to be embedded in concrete if they
were for a proper mast though adequate for a temporary one.  They seemed
to suggest that they were actually manufactured with a point at the
bottom rather than just pipe that had been hammered flat to create a
sort of point.  If it had just been wanted to support a wooden revetment
then the obvious thing would be to use a piece of wood.

M
date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:47:28 GMT   author:   NOSPAM lid

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