In uk.rec.sheds,  (JonG) wrote in
<009a87fe$0$18077$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>::

>Rob wrote:
>
>> A couple of years ago when they were doing a lot of resurfacing jbex on
>> the M6 through Lancs they left the speed camera road markings on the
>> newly laid carriageway after they moved on to the next section. Every
>> time I went that way I saw smoking tyres, heavily dipping front ends or
>> wiggles coming from (normally) trezna made cars
>
>> These days they use the average speed cams in the roadjbexes which makes
>> it a lot better for peeps like me who obey the speed limit in the coned
>> off area as I'm no longer harrassed between the cameras by idiots in
>> BMWs.
>
>I wonder what has happened. When I rode a motorbike regularly, it was 
>quite dramatic that Beemers and Audis would generally treat you with 
>caution and respect, whereas Mercs and, usually, Porches would, if they 
>weren't deliberately awkward, then certainly try and pretend you weren't 
>there or weren't worth acknowledging. There was a WWP advert for Audis 
>involving some Yuppie type test-driving and Audi while giving a 
>voice-over about how he approached life, and getting more at more 
>obnoxious throughour. At the end, he gets out of the, lobs the keys to 
>the salesman, and says "nah, not the motor for me, mate." Summed it up 
>well, that did, but it seems that Beemer drivers at least have changed 
>dramatically over the last decade or so.

The rot set in when bloody salesmen started getting beemers - they
became the aspirational vehicle for 20-somthing twonks.
-- 
Marc

A friend is someone you'd spend an hour with if you had a day to live, not an hour to kill.

In article <1invggz.9jlmbi1d25if4N%robraitxxxxx@yahoo.co.uk>,
Rob  wrote:
>
>When I was biking I found it was oVvlo drivers who were the greatest
>menace to life and limb (and I'm speaking as a former oVvlo driver
>myself). I remember being tailgated (if that's the right term when
>you're on a bike) by a dickhead in a big estate who was driving so close
>to me at 55 - 60 mph on the A49 that he couldn't see my indicators when
>I decided to pull into a layby to get him off my tail. I'm sure his
>bumper touched my rear tyre as I slowed down. And he had the temerity to
>give me the fingers as he went past me. Fortunately he passed me so
>closely I managed to dent his rear door with my boot, which accidentally
>slipped off the footrest.

I dunno if they still do it, but Volvo used to advertise specifically to 
appeal to people who were, shall we say, less confident about their 
driving abilities. Also, they tendto have awful visibility, at least
the smaller ones.

I was out one day on the VFR and came up behind one of those big Volvo estates 
being driven, at mumblesomething over the speed limit, about 
as fast as you'd sensibly want to go in a big car on that road. I 
followed it for a bit, and it seemed to be being driven so smoothly
and courteously (slowing to the speed limit or below for villages,
letting other cars and bikes pull out, maintaining a very respectable
distance) I started to wonder if mebbe I'd slipped into an alternative 
universe.  After a bit, I noticed the three little antennae on the 
roof... plain-clothes dibblemobile...

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:18:56 +0000 (UTC), Carl LHS Williams
 wrote and included this (or some of
this):

>I was out one day on the VFR and came up behind one of those big Volvo estates 
>being driven, at mumblesomething over the speed limit, about 
>as fast as you'd sensibly want to go in a big car on that road. I 
>followed it for a bit, and it seemed to be being driven so smoothly
>and courteously (slowing to the speed limit or below for villages,
>letting other cars and bikes pull out, maintaining a very respectable
>distance) I started to wonder if mebbe I'd slipped into an alternative 
>universe.  After a bit, I noticed the three little antennae on the 
>roof... plain-clothes dibblemobile...

I was closely followed through a 30mph zone by a marked dibble car, so
I was doing 29.5.  As soon as I hit the derestricted sign I changed
down, floored it and took off like fuvg bss bs n fubiry, and my beemer
does take off like SOOAS in third.
After about 25 yards, the buggers slid past me as if I was standing
still and we sort of grinned at each other, one supercilious, one
rictus.

-- 
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®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:18:56 +0000 (UTC), Carl LHS Williams
>  wrote and included this (or some of
> this):
> 
>> I was out one day on the VFR and came up behind one of those big Volvo estates 
>> being driven, at mumblesomething over the speed limit, about 
>> as fast as you'd sensibly want to go in a big car on that road. I 
>> followed it for a bit, and it seemed to be being driven so smoothly
>> and courteously (slowing to the speed limit or below for villages,
>> letting other cars and bikes pull out, maintaining a very respectable
>> distance) I started to wonder if mebbe I'd slipped into an alternative 
>> universe.  After a bit, I noticed the three little antennae on the 
>> roof... plain-clothes dibblemobile...
> 
> I was closely followed through a 30mph zone by a marked dibble car, so
> I was doing 29.5.  As soon as I hit the derestricted sign I changed
> down, floored it and took off like fuvg bss bs n fubiry, and my beemer
> does take off like SOOAS in third.
> After about 25 yards, the buggers slid past me as if I was standing
> still and we sort of grinned at each other, one supercilious, one
> rictus.
> 
Cloff!

-- 
Tciao for Now!

John.

In uk.rec.sheds,  (Rob) wrote in
<1invggz.9jlmbi1d25if4N%robraitxxxxx@yahoo.co.uk>::

>Znep  wrote:
>
>> In uk.rec.sheds,  (JonG) wrote in
>> <009a87fe$0$18077$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>::
>> 
>> >Rob wrote:
>> >
>> >> A couple of years ago when they were doing a lot of resurfacing jbex on
>> >> the M6 through Lancs they left the speed camera road markings on the
>> >> newly laid carriageway after they moved on to the next section. Every
>> >> time I went that way I saw smoking tyres, heavily dipping front ends or
>> >> wiggles coming from (normally) trezna made cars
>> >
>> >> These days they use the average speed cams in the roadjbexes which makes
>> >> it a lot better for peeps like me who obey the speed limit in the coned
>> >> off area as I'm no longer harrassed between the cameras by idiots in
>> >> BMWs.
>> >
>> >I wonder what has happened. When I rode a motorbike regularly, it was
>> >quite dramatic that Beemers and Audis would generally treat you with
>> >caution and respect, whereas Mercs and, usually, Porches would, if they
>> >weren't deliberately awkward, then certainly try and pretend you weren't
>> >there or weren't worth acknowledging. There was a WWP advert for Audis
>> >involving some Yuppie type test-driving and Audi while giving a 
>> >voice-over about how he approached life, and getting more at more 
>> >obnoxious throughour. At the end, he gets out of the, lobs the keys to
>> >the salesman, and says "nah, not the motor for me, mate." Summed it up
>> >well, that did, but it seems that Beemer drivers at least have changed
>> >dramatically over the last decade or so.
>> 
>> The rot set in when bloody salesmen started getting beemers - they
>> became the aspirational vehicle for 20-somthing twonks.
>
>And 10 year old beamers became affordable to the great unwashed. 
>
>When I was biking I found it was oVvlo drivers who were the greatest
>menace to life and limb (and I'm speaking as a former oVvlo driver
>myself). I remember being tailgated (if that's the right term when
>you're on a bike) by a dickhead in a big estate who was driving so close
>to me at 55 - 60 mph on the A49 that he couldn't see my indicators when
>I decided to pull into a layby to get him off my tail. I'm sure his
>bumper touched my rear tyre as I slowed down. And he had the temerity to
>give me the fingers as he went past me. Fortunately he passed me so
>closely I managed to dent his rear door with my boot, which accidentally
>slipped off the footrest.

Hah.  I used to know a chap called Bruce- he was in my local bike club,
but really he wanted to be in the Hell's Angels.  In fact, I think he
was at one time, but they asked him to leave because he was too rough.

He had the same experience, but (of all vehicles) it was a Reliant
Robin.  There were four pissed-up lads in it, and they were deliberately
taunting him.  He bided his time, found out where it was kept, and went
round there late one night with a mate and a big van.

When the lad woke up the next morning, he found the Robin on his lawn-
sliced.  


They'd taken it to his mate's lockup and used big industrial chainsaws
to cut it into 1' slices.

Then they laid it out on the lawn like a filleted salmon.
-- 
Marc

A friend is someone you'd spend an hour with if you had a day to live, not an hour to kill.

Carl LHS Williams wrote:

> I dunno if they still do it, but Volvo used to advertise specifically to 
> appeal to people who were, shall we say, less confident about their 
> driving abilities. Also, they tendto have awful visibility, at least
> the smaller ones.
> 

Yeah - the smaller ones can't see over the steering wheel.

-- 
JonG
Which is worse: Ignorance or Apathy?
I don't know, and I don't care.

The message <gbiuh0$nhk$1@registered.motzarella.org>
from Carl LHS Williams  contains these words:
> In article <1invggz.9jlmbi1d25if4N%robraitxxxxx@yahoo.co.uk>,
> Rob  wrote:
> >
> >When I was biking I found it was oVvlo drivers who were the greatest
> >menace to life and limb (and I'm speaking as a former oVvlo driver
> >myself). I remember being tailgated (if that's the right term when
> >you're on a bike) by a dickhead in a big estate who was driving so close
> >to me at 55 - 60 mph on the A49 that he couldn't see my indicators when
> >I decided to pull into a layby to get him off my tail. I'm sure his
> >bumper touched my rear tyre as I slowed down. And he had the temerity to
> >give me the fingers as he went past me. Fortunately he passed me so
> >closely I managed to dent his rear door with my boot, which accidentally
> >slipped off the footrest.

> I dunno if they still do it, but Volvo used to advertise specifically to 
> appeal to people who were, shall we say, less confident about their 
> driving abilities. Also, they tendto have awful visibility, at least
> the smaller ones.

> I was out one day on the VFR and came up behind one of those big Volvo
> estates 
> being driven, at mumblesomething over the speed limit, about 
> as fast as you'd sensibly want to go in a big car on that road. I 
> followed it for a bit, and it seemed to be being driven so smoothly
> and courteously (slowing to the speed limit or below for villages,
> letting other cars and bikes pull out, maintaining a very respectable
> distance) I started to wonder if mebbe I'd slipped into an alternative 
> universe.  After a bit, I noticed the three little antennae on the 
> roof... plain-clothes dibblemobile...

Minds me of following a car and being impressed by the driver's courtesy
and consideration, and observance of speed limits.

I called at the local dibblery later and 'reported' him for good driving.

Deskdibble fiddled with pooter and said, after a few minuets: "The DCC
will be delighted with your report, Sir."

-- 
Rusty
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In uk.rec.sheds,  (®óñ© © ²°¹°-°²) wrote in
::

>On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:18:56 +0000 (UTC), Carl LHS Williams
> wrote and included this (or some of
>this):
>
>>I was out one day on the VFR and came up behind one of those big Volvo estates 
>>being driven, at mumblesomething over the speed limit, about 
>>as fast as you'd sensibly want to go in a big car on that road. I 
>>followed it for a bit, and it seemed to be being driven so smoothly
>>and courteously (slowing to the speed limit or below for villages,
>>letting other cars and bikes pull out, maintaining a very respectable
>>distance) I started to wonder if mebbe I'd slipped into an alternative 
>>universe.  After a bit, I noticed the three little antennae on the 
>>roof... plain-clothes dibblemobile...
>
>I was closely followed through a 30mph zone by a marked dibble car, so
>I was doing 29.5.  As soon as I hit the derestricted sign I changed
>down, floored it and took off like fuvg bss bs n fubiry, and my beemer
>does take off like SOOAS in third.
>After about 25 yards, the buggers slid past me as if I was standing
>still and we sort of grinned at each other, one supercilious, one
>rictus.

A chum of mine saw a couple of cops in a special pursuit vehicle, a few
years ago (he'd actually caused it to be deployed, due to reporting a
dingbat in a porker who seemed determined to kill someone).  It was a
Jag.  He looked inside while they were chatting to him, and it looked
like a rally car; full harness seatbelts, no back seat, roll-cage,
everything non-essential had holes in.  

And the speedo went up to 200.

He found out later that they have a few of these, extensively breathed
upon by the chaps at TRW.

He says when it took off from the hard-shoulder, there was a brief flame
from the exhaust. 
-- 
Marc

A friend is someone you'd spend an hour with if you had a day to live, not an hour to kill.

Znep wrote:
> In uk.rec.sheds,  (®óñ© © ²°¹°-°²) wrote in
> ::
> 
>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:18:56 +0000 (UTC), Carl LHS Williams
>>  wrote and included this (or some of
>> this):
>>
>>> I was out one day on the VFR and came up behind one of those big Volvo estates 
>>> being driven, at mumblesomething over the speed limit, about 
>>> as fast as you'd sensibly want to go in a big car on that road. I 
>>> followed it for a bit, and it seemed to be being driven so smoothly
>>> and courteously (slowing to the speed limit or below for villages,
>>> letting other cars and bikes pull out, maintaining a very respectable
>>> distance) I started to wonder if mebbe I'd slipped into an alternative 
>>> universe.  After a bit, I noticed the three little antennae on the 
>>> roof... plain-clothes dibblemobile...
>> I was closely followed through a 30mph zone by a marked dibble car, so
>> I was doing 29.5.  As soon as I hit the derestricted sign I changed
>> down, floored it and took off like fuvg bss bs n fubiry, and my beemer
>> does take off like SOOAS in third.
>> After about 25 yards, the buggers slid past me as if I was standing
>> still and we sort of grinned at each other, one supercilious, one
>> rictus.
> 
> A chum of mine saw a couple of cops in a special pursuit vehicle, a few
> years ago (he'd actually caused it to be deployed, due to reporting a
> dingbat in a porker who seemed determined to kill someone).  It was a
> Jag.  He looked inside while they were chatting to him, and it looked
> like a rally car; full harness seatbelts, no back seat, roll-cage,
> everything non-essential had holes in.  
> 
> And the speedo went up to 200.
> 
> He found out later that they have a few of these, extensively breathed
> upon by the chaps at TRW.
> 
> He says when it took off from the hard-shoulder, there was a brief flame
> from the exhaust. 

Afterburner?

-- 
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The message <jNGdnX63u8zF4EPVRVnyhAA@posted.plusnet>
from Kate XXXXXX  contains these words:

> > He says when it took off from the hard-shoulder, there was a brief flame
> > from the exhaust. 

> Afterburner?

What, a vindaloo powered dibblemobile?

-- 
Skipweasel
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

In uk.rec.sheds,  (Kate XXXXXX) wrote in
<jNGdnX63u8zF4EPVRVnyhAA@posted.plusnet>::

>Znep wrote:
>> In uk.rec.sheds,  (®óñ© © ²°¹°-°²) wrote in
>> ::
>> 
>>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:18:56 +0000 (UTC), Carl LHS Williams
>>>  wrote and included this (or some of
>>> this):
>>>
>>>> I was out one day on the VFR and came up behind one of those big Volvo estates 
>>>> being driven, at mumblesomething over the speed limit, about 
>>>> as fast as you'd sensibly want to go in a big car on that road. I 
>>>> followed it for a bit, and it seemed to be being driven so smoothly
>>>> and courteously (slowing to the speed limit or below for villages,
>>>> letting other cars and bikes pull out, maintaining a very respectable
>>>> distance) I started to wonder if mebbe I'd slipped into an alternative 
>>>> universe.  After a bit, I noticed the three little antennae on the 
>>>> roof... plain-clothes dibblemobile...
>>> I was closely followed through a 30mph zone by a marked dibble car, so
>>> I was doing 29.5.  As soon as I hit the derestricted sign I changed
>>> down, floored it and took off like fuvg bss bs n fubiry, and my beemer
>>> does take off like SOOAS in third.
>>> After about 25 yards, the buggers slid past me as if I was standing
>>> still and we sort of grinned at each other, one supercilious, one
>>> rictus.
>> 
>> A chum of mine saw a couple of cops in a special pursuit vehicle, a few
>> years ago (he'd actually caused it to be deployed, due to reporting a
>> dingbat in a porker who seemed determined to kill someone).  It was a
>> Jag.  He looked inside while they were chatting to him, and it looked
>> like a rally car; full harness seatbelts, no back seat, roll-cage,
>> everything non-essential had holes in.  
>> 
>> And the speedo went up to 200.
>> 
>> He found out later that they have a few of these, extensively breathed
>> upon by the chaps at TRW.
>> 
>> He says when it took off from the hard-shoulder, there was a brief flame
>> from the exhaust. 
>
>Afterburner?

See next year's model.

He also mentioned that the cop driving it was struggling manfully, and
not entirely successfully, to hide what he described as a "manic grin".
-- 
Marc

A friend is someone you'd spend an hour with if you had a day to live, not an hour to kill.

The message 
from Znep  contains these words:

> He also mentioned that the cop driving it was struggling manfully, and
> not entirely successfully, to hide what he described as a "manic grin".

Is that better or worse than a maniac grin?

-- 
Skipweasel
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.