On or around Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:44:53 +0100, Rusty Hinge 2
 enlightened us thusly:

>They don't have (and can't get) potassium dichromate or chromic acid
>(for oxidising hardwoods), oxalic acid (for removing iron stains from
>wood, and lots of other things I hfrq to ohl from my local ironmongrel
>years ago.

yebbut, I bet those things are banned so terrrists can't molish bmobs out
ovvem.
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Rusty Hinge 2  wrote:

> from Austin Shackles 

> > yebbut, I bet those things are banned so terrrists can't molish bmobs out
> > ovvem.
> 
> No, but untampered-with sodium chlorate has disappeared from siops - I
> hfrq to ohl it by the pound in its unrefained form, from the florist.

Do you have a lot of trousers you need to explode, then?

Richard

Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:
> The message 
> from Guy King  contains these words:
>> The message 
>> from Rusty Hinge 2  contains these words:
> 
>>>>> No, but untampered-with sodium chlorate has disappeared from siops - I
>>>>> hfrq to ohl it by the pound in its unrefained form, from the florist.
> 
>>>> Do you have a lot of trousers you need to explode, then?
> 
>>> Our garding were xabja for its BNAG!s
> 
>> Some of my happiest childhood moments were spent with chlorate. Unlike
>> my friend PJ who lost a finger and a half.
> 
> Ah, probably potassium chlorate - when mixed with a reducing agent it
> can go off while being gently stirred.
> 
> Sodium variety is much more hfre-friendly.
> 
Oooooo. Mix with icing sugar in 50/50 ratio (by weight) for a nice even 
burn, or dissolve with icing sugar and let set into hard tablet form. 
Great for powering your own jet engines on model boats etc.

Nev

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:35:08 +0100, nev young 
 wrote in <g9imlv$8p1$1@aioe.org>:

> Oooooo. Mix with icing sugar in 50/50 ratio (by weight) for a nice even 
> burn, or dissolve with icing sugar and let set into hard tablet form. 
> Great for powering your own jet engines on model boats etc.

	If you're going to dissolve it, you needn't use icing sugar -- and
your Mum is less likely to notice table sugar disappearing from the pantry
than icing sugar!

-- 
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Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:35:08 +0100, nev young 
>
>> Oooooo. Mix with icing sugar in 50/50 ratio (by weight) for a nice even 
>> burn, or dissolve with icing sugar and let set into hard tablet form. 
>> Great for powering your own jet engines on model boats etc.
>
> 	If you're going to dissolve it, you needn't use icing sugar -- and
> your Mum is less likely to notice table sugar disappearing from the pantry
> than icing sugar!

This looks more like Kendal Mint Cake than humbugs.


-- 
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"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

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Rusty Hinge 2 said:
> from Richard Robinson  contains these words:
>> Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
>> > On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:35:08 +0100, nev young
>> >
>> >> Oooooo. Mix with icing sugar in 50/50 ratio (by weight) for a nice even 
>> >> burn, or dissolve with icing sugar and let set into hard tablet form. 
>> >> Great for powering your own jet engines on model boats etc.
>> >
>> > 	If you're going to dissolve it, you needn't use icing sugar -- and
>> > your Mum is less likely to notice table sugar disappearing from the pantry
>> > than icing sugar!
>
>> This looks more like Kendal Mint Cake than humbugs.
>
> Humbnags, Shirly?

Nah, that's an exploding racehorse that can't unforget the words. You can't fool
me that easily.


-- 
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"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:46:25 +0100, Rusty Hinge 2

 wrote in :
> The message <g9imlv$8p1$1@aioe.org>
> from nev young  contains these words:
 
>> > Sodium variety is much more hfre-friendly.

>> Oooooo. Mix with icing sugar in 50/50 ratio (by weight) for a nice even 
>> burn,
 
> Icing sugar contains something non-combustibubble, like plaster, or
> summat, to molish it to set. Hfr caster sugar, or powder it in a
> coffee-mill to molish it even finer.

	Icing sugar is just white sugar finely ground.  We used to make
caster sugar and icing sugar from normal table sugar in our blender
(Supermix?) back in the 60s, the only difference being the amount of
time you blitzed it.  ISTR that commercial icing sugar does contain an
anti-caking agent, but I can't recall what.  gwgle sez potato starch or
tricalcium phosphate.
 
-- 
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Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:
> The message <g9imlv$8p1$1@aioe.org>
> from nev young  contains these words:
> 
>>> Sodium variety is much more hfre-friendly.
>>>
>> Oooooo. Mix with icing sugar in 50/50 ratio (by weight) for a nice even 
>> burn,
> 
> Icing sugar contains something non-combustibubble, like plaster, or
> summat, to molish it to set. Hfr caster sugar, or powder it in a
> coffee-mill to molish it even finer.

No, icing sugar contains 100% pure cane sugar.   What you add to make 
icing set is egg white.  Sets like concrete then, which is how you make 
wedding cakes armour plated. You add a little lemon juice for flavour.
> 
>> or dissolve with icing sugar and let set into hard tablet form. 
>> Great for powering your own jet engines on model boats etc.
> 
> Sounds a dead dodgy practice, that.
> 


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On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:06:03 +0100,  wrote:

>On 2 Sep,  
>     Kate XXXXXX  wrote:
>
>> No, icing sugar contains 100% pure cane sugar.   What you add to make 
>> icing set is egg white.  Sets like concrete then, which is how you make 
>> wedding cakes armour plated. You add a little lemon juice for flavour.
>
>I gooved (from SWSOT many years ago) that you tempered the icing with either
>lemon juice or glycerine (not nitro). One mollished it harder and the other
>mollished a much softer finish.

Glycerine (not nitro) will molish it softer. I can't see lemon juice
molishing all that much deferens (BICBW).

-- 
Frank Erskine
MJBC, OETKBC

me9@privacy.net wrote:
> On 2 Sep,  
>      Kate XXXXXX  wrote:
> 
>> No, icing sugar contains 100% pure cane sugar.   What you add to make 
>> icing set is egg white.  Sets like concrete then, which is how you make 
>> wedding cakes armour plated. You add a little lemon juice for flavour.
> 
> I gooved (from SWSOT many years ago) that you tempered the icing with either
> lemon juice or glycerine (not nitro). One mollished it harder and the other
> mollished a much softer finish. Just with small quantities of dihydrogen
> oxide only mollished the hardest tooth cracking mix. 
> 
Yup, glycerine syrup/glop if you want to make the sort that you can roll 
out like pastry and mold in flowers like playdoh, and egg for the hard 
stuff.  You can also make the flowers out of the hard stuff, but you 
have to work quicker.

I had a friend called Pauline when I were a lass, and her mum was an 
apprentice served baker and confectioner.  She made her 'pin money' as 
twer molishing dead fancy wedding cakes and the like for people wot 
wanted bespoke cakes rather than the limited number of designes the 
usual bakers would do.

Even back in the 70's she would do 3-5 tiered heart shaped cakes, 
hexagonal ones, and special shapes as well as the normal round or square 
ones.  And she used wooden cake forms that you soaked in water for a day 
or so before baking rather than tins for the boring shapes.

I remember her doing one big square one with these little sugar baskets 
she made sticking out like balconies, and filled with tiny sugar 
roses...  We got to eat all the mistakes and lopsided bits!  I remember 
her piping out the basket bits onto paper and then draping it over the 
rolling pin to get the bits to curl, and then gluing them together like 
plastic models with more icing.  Got transported to the hotel reception 
place, assembled, and then the last, most delicate bits glued on the 
night before.  I think as much care and effort went into that cake as 
went into the wedding dress!  I remember it was lovely to eat as well. 
We got bits because the bride's mum was our Mrs Mop. Pauline's family 
also got bits because Pauline's mum and out Mrs Mop became friends while 
that cake was being constructed.

-- 
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
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Frank Erskine wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:06:03 +0100,  wrote:
> 
>> On 2 Sep,  
>>     Kate XXXXXX  wrote:
>>
>>> No, icing sugar contains 100% pure cane sugar.   What you add to make 
>>> icing set is egg white.  Sets like concrete then, which is how you make 
>>> wedding cakes armour plated. You add a little lemon juice for flavour.
>> I gooved (from SWSOT many years ago) that you tempered the icing with either
>> lemon juice or glycerine (not nitro). One mollished it harder and the other
>> mollished a much softer finish.
> 
> Glycerine (not nitro) will molish it softer. I can't see lemon juice
> molishing all that much deferens (BICBW).
> 
Flavour enhancer.

-- 
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
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Guy King wrote:
> The message 
> from Rusty Hinge 2  contains these words:
> 
>> Icing sugar contains something non-combustibubble, like plaster, or
>> summat, to molish it to set.
> 
> It's not to make it set, it's to stop it setting in the packet. Our
> packet says it has tricalcium phosphate as an anti-caking agent.
> 
Hmmmm. My packet sez it contains E554 : Sodium aluminium silicate

Of course I've no eye dear wot, if anything, was added to to icing sugar 
when I used to make my own pyrotechnical fun mix (circa 1965). But I do 
unforget being up before the beak for using it on skool premises.

I first discovered the effects of dissolving and drying the stuff quite 
by accident.  I had molished some white powder, as we used to call it, 
and left it hidden behind a lose brick in a wall, but the tin wasn't 
properly sealed and it absorbed water from the air and became a very 
thick paste. I moved it into the airing cupboard at home[98] to dry it 
out and it set into a hard crumbly tablet, some of which we very very 
carefully re-powdered. The very next use of that landed me in very big 
trouble as wot was meant to go "fizzzzzzzzz smoke" went "bnag!" and 
caused some damage to nearby windows.

[98] if mum or dad had known that, then I may have been rather told off.

Nev

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:51:19 +0100, nev young 
 wrote in <g9mf4s$d8v$1@aioe.org>:

> I first discovered the effects of dissolving and drying the stuff quite 
> by accident.  I had molished some white powder, as we used to call it, 
> and left it hidden behind a lose brick in a wall, but the tin wasn't 
> properly sealed and it absorbed water from the air and became a very 
> thick paste.

	I was wondering about that when the concept was posted earlier.
Since sugar is hygroscopic, a powder mixture should absorb water from the
air.  Unless the anti-caking ingrejents in shop-bought caster sugar
somehow inhibit it.

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        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, Dr Ivan D. Reid 
said:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:51:19 +0100, nev young 
>  wrote in <g9mf4s$d8v$1@aioe.org>:
> 
> > I first discovered the effects of dissolving and drying the stuff quite 
> > by accident.  I had molished some white powder, as we used to call it, 
> > and left it hidden behind a lose brick in a wall, but the tin wasn't 
> > properly sealed and it absorbed water from the air and became a very 
> > thick paste.
> 
> 	I was wondering about that when the concept was posted earlier.
> Since sugar is hygroscopic, a powder mixture should absorb water from the
> air.  Unless the anti-caking ingrejents in shop-bought caster sugar
> somehow inhibit it.
> 
> 
We used to use ordinary granulated sugar with our sodium chlorate. 
5 sugar to 6 SC or vice versa, by volume.
Some was left in a tin, became a goop due to being hygroscopic.
Somebody stupidly thojught this meant it would no longer burn and 
chucked match in, while leaning over to look into the tin.
He did get his eyebrows back after a bit.
-- 
teh internets is populated by eggshells armed with hammers

In uk.rec.sheds,  (nev young) wrote in <g9imlv$8p1$1@aioe.org>::

>Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:
>> The message 
>> from Guy King  contains these words:
>>> The message 
>>> from Rusty Hinge 2  contains these words:
>> 
>>>>>> No, but untampered-with sodium chlorate has disappeared from siops - I
>>>>>> hfrq to ohl it by the pound in its unrefained form, from the florist.
>> 
>>>>> Do you have a lot of trousers you need to explode, then?
>> 
>>>> Our garding were xabja for its BNAG!s
>> 
>>> Some of my happiest childhood moments were spent with chlorate. Unlike
>>> my friend PJ who lost a finger and a half.
>> 
>> Ah, probably potassium chlorate - when mixed with a reducing agent it
>> can go off while being gently stirred.
>> 
>> Sodium variety is much more hfre-friendly.
>> 
>Oooooo. Mix with icing sugar in 50/50 ratio (by weight) for a nice even 
>burn, or dissolve with icing sugar and let set into hard tablet form. 
>Great for powering your own jet engines on model boats etc.

I bleev they add some sort of inhibitor these days.
-- 
Marc

The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program.   - Larry Niven

Rusty Hinge 2  wrote:

> from Guy King  contains these words:
> > from Rusty Hinge 2  contains these words:
> 
> > > > Nope, it was sodium chlorate and sugar, laboriously packed into an empty
> > > > sparklets cartridge.
> 
> > > The only thing I can goove of then, is static caused by the laborious
> > > packing.
> 
> > You don't think lighting it and holding on to it for a few seconds
> > before throwing it so as to see an air-burst might have been behind it?
> 
> Oh, I doubt it - only a complete fule would do such a thing...

Thobut afterwards he'd likely be an incomplete fule.

Richard

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from Znep  contains these words:

> I bleev they add some sort of inhibitor these days.

They always did, but it still goes bang quite satisfyingly.

-- 
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Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

Guy King wrote:
> 
> You don't think lighting it and holding on to it for a few seconds
> before throwing it so as to see an air-burst might have been behind it?
> 
I have always been amazed at the total stupidity of some folk. At least 
I always either used a fuse (string impregnated with NaClO3) or used an 
electrical method. I may have been bad but I did have a great deal of 
respect[33] for the stuff.

[33] though with hindsight perhaps not enough.

Nev

The message 
from Guy King  contains these words:
> The message 
> from Znep  contains these words:

> > I bleev they add some sort of inhibitor these days.

> They always did, but it still goes bang quite satisfyingly.

Not always.

Back in the '50s they didn't.

A chap had a field which had grown all weedy and grassy, and he decided
he wanted it clear.

He sprayed it with sodium chlorate solution and left it to jbex.

Misfortunately, it were sunny and hot, and something (maybe a bit of
borked bockle, set it orft.

There were a big orange flash, a WHOOMPH!, and a nuge mushroom cloud.

Five acres or so of stuff going up almost instantaneously must have been
awesome to behold. I saw it from about three miles away, and the flash
and WHOOMPH! were audio-visual from there. The cloud onna stalk must
have gone several hundred feets into the air.

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On 04/09/2008 17:51, Bernard Peek wrote:

> A fiend of mine used an electronic timer to set off a home-molished 
> firejbex. He was caught and prosecuted. Apparently if he had used a long 
> burning fuse he would have been convicted of some minor offence and 
> severely admonished, but because he used an electronic[e] one he got a 
> demihectofortnight in an HM guest house.
> 
> [e] When asked why he had used such a fiendishly sophisticated timing 
> device[q] his reply was that he couldn't think of anything simpler
> 
> [q] A 555 timer

Just to complete the groundhog day[0], I'll mention the ZN1034e chip at 
this point.

[0] 17-MAR-2007

Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:

> Back in the '50s they didn't.
> 
> A chap had a field which had grown all weedy and grassy, and he decided
> he wanted it clear.
> 
> He sprayed it with sodium chlorate solution and left it to jbex.
> 
> Misfortunately, it were sunny and hot, and something (maybe a bit of
> borked bockle, set it orft.
> 
> There were a big orange flash, a WHOOMPH!, and a nuge mushroom cloud.
> 
> Five acres or so of stuff going up almost instantaneously must have been
> awesome to behold. I saw it from about three miles away, and the flash
> and WHOOMPH! were audio-visual from there. The cloud onna stalk must
> have gone several hundred feets into the air.
> 

In the 50's?

Bet some people thought that someone, somewhere, had pressed the Big Red 
Button.


-- 
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Which is worse: Ignorance or Apathy?
I don't know, and I don't care.

JonG said:
> Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:
>> 
>> A chap had a field which had grown all weedy and grassy, and he decided
>> he wanted it clear.
>> He sprayed it with sodium chlorate solution and left it to jbex.
>> Misfortunately, it were sunny and hot, and something (maybe a bit of
>> borked bockle, set it orft.
>> There were a big orange flash, a WHOOMPH!, and a nuge mushroom cloud.
>> 
>> Five acres or so of stuff going up almost instantaneously must have been
>> awesome to behold. I saw it from about three miles away, and the flash
>> and WHOOMPH! were audio-visual from there. The cloud onna stalk must
>> have gone several hundred feets into the air.
>
> In the 50's?
>
> Bet some people thought that someone, somewhere, had pressed the Big Red 
> Button.

Which reminds me of my parents, talking about some tellyprog they'd been
watching about the old days of Cold War 1. In particular, they were struck
by the mention of an advert for a backyard nuclear-proof bunker with a
cat-flap.

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Richard Robinson wrote:

> Which reminds me of my parents, talking about some tellyprog they'd been
> watching about the old days of Cold War 1. In particular, they were struck
> by the mention of an advert for a backyard nuclear-proof bunker with a
> cat-flap.
> 

Boggle.

"Oh, no, Hilda, look what the cat's dragged in Now."

-- 
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Which is worse: Ignorance or Apathy?
I don't know, and I don't care.

JonG said:
> Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> Which reminds me of my parents, talking about some tellyprog they'd been
>> watching about the old days of Cold War 1. In particular, they were struck
>> by the mention of an advert for a backyard nuclear-proof bunker with a
>> cat-flap.
>
> Boggle.
>
> "Oh, no, Hilda, look what the cat's dragged in Now."

"Yes, Albert, but look what's the cat"


-- 
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from JonG  contains
these words:
> Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:

> > Back in the '50s they didn't.
> > 
> > A chap had a field which had grown all weedy and grassy, and he decided
> > he wanted it clear.
> > 
> > He sprayed it with sodium chlorate solution and left it to jbex.
> > 
> > Misfortunately, it were sunny and hot, and something (maybe a bit of
> > borked bockle, set it orft.
> > 
> > There were a big orange flash, a WHOOMPH!, and a nuge mushroom cloud.
> > 
> > Five acres or so of stuff going up almost instantaneously must have been
> > awesome to behold. I saw it from about three miles away, and the flash
> > and WHOOMPH! were audio-visual from there. The cloud onna stalk must
> > have gone several hundred feets into the air.
> > 

> In the 50's?

> Bet some people thought that someone, somewhere, had pressed the Big Red 
> Button.

We did, but since the whirled didn't frazzle about us, we leapt on our
encyclicals and piddled-off to somewhere at the back of Upminster, to
gawp at a blackened field, half a dozen of emergency swervices vehicles
and a crowd of locals (and not-so-locals), and a thin haze of rising
smerk.

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"Richard Robinson"  wrote in message 
news:48c2655d$0$522$bed64819@news.gradwell.net...
> JonG said:
>> Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:
>>>
>>> A chap had a field which had grown all weedy and grassy, and he decided
>>> he wanted it clear.
>>> He sprayed it with sodium chlorate solution and left it to jbex.
>>> Misfortunately, it were sunny and hot, and something (maybe a bit of
>>> borked bockle, set it orft.
>>> There were a big orange flash, a WHOOMPH!, and a nuge mushroom cloud.
>>>
>>> Five acres or so of stuff going up almost instantaneously must have been
>>> awesome to behold. I saw it from about three miles away, and the flash
>>> and WHOOMPH! were audio-visual from there. The cloud onna stalk must
>>> have gone several hundred feets into the air.
>>
>> In the 50's?
>>
>> Bet some people thought that someone, somewhere, had pressed the Big Red
>> Button.
>
> Which reminds me of my parents, talking about some tellyprog they'd been
> watching about the old days of Cold War 1. In particular, they were struck
> by the mention of an advert for a backyard nuclear-proof bunker with a
> cat-flap.
>
Send the cat out first, if it comes back the same shape it went out it's 
safe to emerge?

-- 
Chris, (on tour)
Intellect is invisible to the man who has none.
Schopenhauer

Cerumen wrote:

>> Which reminds me of my parents, talking about some tellyprog they'd been
>> watching about the old days of Cold War 1. In particular, they were struck
>> by the mention of an advert for a backyard nuclear-proof bunker with a
>> cat-flap.
>>
> Send the cat out first, if it comes back the same shape it went out it's 
> safe to emerge?
> 

A sort of Noah's Dove for modern times?

-- 
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I don't know, and I don't care.

"JonG"  wrote in message 
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> Cerumen wrote:
>
>>> Which reminds me of my parents, talking about some tellyprog they'd been
>>> watching about the old days of Cold War 1. In particular, they were 
>>> struck
>>> by the mention of an advert for a backyard nuclear-proof bunker with a
>>> cat-flap.
>>>
>> Send the cat out first, if it comes back the same shape it went out it's 
>> safe to emerge?
>>
>
> A sort of Noah's Dove for modern times?
>
Yes indeed and a little bit of Schrodinger or whoever it was kept a cat in a 
box for nefarious raisins.

-- 
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Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you fight with your neighbor.It 
makes you shoot at your landlord and it makes you miss him." - Irish Proverb

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from JonG  contains
these words:
> Cerumen wrote:

> >> Which reminds me of my parents, talking about some tellyprog they'd been
> >> watching about the old days of Cold War 1. In particular, they were
> >> struck
> >> by the mention of an advert for a backyard nuclear-proof bunker with a
> >> cat-flap.
> >>
> > Send the cat out first, if it comes back the same shape it went out it's 
> > safe to emerge?
> > 
And of course, not glowing a gentle green...

> A sort of Noah's Dove for modern times?

I'd be a bit suspicious of radiation levels if it grew wings.

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The message 
from "Cerumen"  contains these words:
> "JonG"  wrote in
> message 
> news:00822fca$0$18059$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> > Cerumen wrote:
> >
> >>> Which reminds me of my parents, talking about some tellyprog they'd been
> >>> watching about the old days of Cold War 1. In particular, they were 
> >>> struck
> >>> by the mention of an advert for a backyard nuclear-proof bunker with a
> >>> cat-flap.
> >>>
> >> Send the cat out first, if it comes back the same shape it went out it's 
> >> safe to emerge?
> >>
> >
> > A sort of Noah's Dove for modern times?
> >
> Yes indeed and a little bit of Schrodinger or whoever it was kept a
> cat in a 
> box for nefarious raisins.

Dead right!

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rusty.hinge@gruel.invalid.co.uk said...
> The message 
> from Guy King  contains these words:
> > The message 
> > from Rusty Hinge 2  contains these words:
> 
> > > > > No, but untampered-with sodium chlorate has disappeared from siops - I
> > > > > hfrq to ohl it by the pound in its unrefained form, from the florist.
> 
> > > > Do you have a lot of trousers you need to explode, then?

Trousers??
 
> > > Our garding were xabja for its BNAG!s
> 
> > Some of my happiest childhood moments were spent with chlorate. Unlike
> > my friend PJ who lost a finger and a half.

Eh?  How lose finger with Na chlorate?
 
> Ah, probably potassium chlorate - when mixed with a reducing agent it
> can go off while being gently stirred.
> 
> Sodium variety is much more hfre-friendly.
> 
It's weed killer, isn't it?

-- 
Fran

Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk said...
> Icing sugar is just white sugar finely ground.  We used to make
> caster sugar and icing sugar from normal table sugar in our blender
> (Supermix?) back in the 60s, 
> 
Magimix, prolly.

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Fran

frank.erskine@btinternet.com said...
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:06:03 +0100,  wrote:
> 
> >On 2 Sep,  
> >     Kate XXXXXX  wrote:
> >
> >> No, icing sugar contains 100% pure cane sugar.   What you add to make 
> >> icing set is egg white.  Sets like concrete then, which is how you make 
> >> wedding cakes armour plated. You add a little lemon juice for flavour.
> >
> >I gooved (from SWSOT many years ago) that you tempered the icing with either
> >lemon juice or glycerine (not nitro). One mollished it harder and the other
> >mollished a much softer finish.
> 
> Glycerine (not nitro) will molish it softer. I can't see lemon juice
> molishing all that much deferens (BICBW).
> 
Gives it flavour.  It's the liquid in the lemon juice wot molishes it to 
set, but ordinary water is better.

-- 
Fran

Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, Sena said:
> 
> Eh?  How lose finger with Na chlorate?
> It's weed killer, isn't it?

Yes, but it also burns at explosion speeds when mixed with eg sugar.
Very popular with the IRA at one time.

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In uk.rec.sheds,  (Carlton Miniott) wrote in
::

>Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, Sena said:
>> 
>> Eh?  How lose finger with Na chlorate?
>> It's weed killer, isn't it?
>
>Yes, but it also burns at explosion speeds when mixed with eg sugar.
>Very popular with the IRA at one time.

I thort they were more into fertiliser + diesel?
-- 
Marc

Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. (Oscar Wilde)

On 07/09/2008 22:47, Znep wrote:

> I thort they were more into fertiliser + diesel?

yep, ANFO.

Znep said:
> In uk.rec.sheds,  (Carlton Miniott) wrote in
>>Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, Sena said:
>>> 
>>> Eh?  How lose finger with Na chlorate?
>>> It's weed killer, isn't it?
>>
>>Yes, but it also burns at explosion speeds when mixed with eg sugar.
>>Very popular with the IRA at one time.
>
> I thort they were more into fertiliser + diesel?

Prepared to investigate anything that can supply its own oxygen ?

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The message 
from Sena  contains these words:

> Gives it flavour.  It's the liquid in the lemon juice wot molishes it to 
> set, but ordinary water is better.

Nah, lemon juice, or better, lime juice - makes smashing tasty icing.

-- 
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 22:05:54 +0100, Sena 
 wrote in :
> Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk said...
>> Icing sugar is just white sugar finely ground.  We used to make
>> caster sugar and icing sugar from normal table sugar in our blender
>> (Supermix?) back in the 60s, 

> Magimix, prolly.

	No, it was Supermix.  IIRC they were sold by door-to-door
salesmen.  This is similar -- eBay item 190248881383 (in Australia), but I
believe we had a smaller one-motor base.  Certainly we had the blender,
juicer, and knife sharpener.  I think ours must have been a later model,
the base was rather more stylish...

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On 08/09/2008 08:43, Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:

> it was Supermix.
> This is similar -- eBay item 190248881383 

Looks like the abtsracdihdl of a streetlamp, an intercom and some sort 
of gynaecological dynorod.

> (in Australia)

fleabay's article numbers are global.

"Guy King"  wrote in message 
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> The message 
> from Sena  contains these words:
>
>> > > Some of my happiest childhood moments were spent with chlorate. 
>> > > Unlike
>> > > my friend PJ who lost a finger and a half.
>
>> Eh?  How lose finger with Na chlorate?
>
> Mix it with sugar, pack it tightly into an empty Sparklets cartridge,
> light it and hold in the hand.
>
Cue joke about castrating Canuks with explosive devices.

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makes you shoot at your landlord and it makes you miss him." - Irish Proverb

"Andy Burns"  wrote in message
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> On 08/09/2008 08:43, Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
>
>> it was Supermix.
>> This is similar -- eBay item 190248881383
>
> Looks like the abtsracdihdl of a streetlamp, an intercom and some sort of
> gynaecological dynorod.
>
Very fitting since IRTA as Spermix.

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makes you shoot at your landlord and it makes you miss him." - Irish Proverb

guy.king@zetnet.co.uk said...
> The message 
> from Sena  contains these words:
> 
> > Gives it flavour.  It's the liquid in the lemon juice wot molishes it to 
> > set, but ordinary water is better.
> 
> Nah, lemon juice, or better, lime juice - makes smashing tasty icing.
> 
But only if you like the taste of lemon or lime icing, presumably.  To 
me, it sounds revolting.

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"Cerumen"  wrote in
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> 
> "Andy Burns"  wrote in message
> news:rpOdnRPpjrjJRlnVnZ2dnUVZ8sDinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> On 08/09/2008 08:43, Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
>>
>>> it was Supermix.
>>> This is similar -- eBay item 190248881383
>>
>> Looks like the abtsracdihdl of a streetlamp, an intercom and some
>> sort of gynaecological dynorod.
>>
> Very fitting since IRTA as Spermix.
> 

Does it come with a turkey baster?

-- 
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:59:15 +0100, Andy Burns 
 wrote in <rpOdnRPpjrjJRlnVnZ2dnUVZ8sDinZ2d@posted.plusnet>:
> On 08/09/2008 08:43, Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
 
>> it was Supermix.
>> This is similar -- eBay item 190248881383 
 
> Looks like the abtsracdihdl of a streetlamp, an intercom and some sort 
> of gynaecological dynorod.
 
>> (in Australia)
 
> fleabay's article numbers are global.

	Yes, I thought they were.  I put that in just in case I was wrong.
It has to happen one day...

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from Sena  contains these words:
> guy.king@zetnet.co.uk said...
> > The message 
> > from Sena  contains these words:
> > 
> > > Gives it flavour.  It's the liquid in the lemon juice wot molishes
> > > it to 
> > > set, but ordinary water is better.
> > 
> > Nah, lemon juice, or better, lime juice - makes smashing tasty icing.
> > 
> But only if you like the taste of lemon or lime icing, presumably.  To 
> me, it sounds revolting.

Wot *DO* you like?

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rusty.hinge@gruel.invalid.co.uk said...
> The message 
> from Sena  contains these words:
> > guy.king@zetnet.co.uk said...
> > > The message 
> > > from Sena  contains these words:
> > > 
> > > > Gives it flavour.  It's the liquid in the lemon juice wot molishes
> > > > it to 
> > > > set, but ordinary water is better.
> > > 
> > > Nah, lemon juice, or better, lime juice - makes smashing tasty icing.
> > > 
> > But only if you like the taste of lemon or lime icing, presumably.  To 
> > me, it sounds revolting.
> 
> Wot *DO* you like?
> 
I'm not keen on fruity flavoured things in general, but I do like 
coconut, pineapple and red fruits like blackcurrant, cherry etc.  TAAW I 
like curry, pancakes, black tea, decent ale, malt whisky...

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The message 
from Sena  contains these words:
> rusty.hinge@gruel.invalid.co.uk said...
> > The message 
> > from Sena  contains these words:
> > > guy.king@zetnet.co.uk said...
> > > > The message 
> > > > from Sena  contains these words:
> > > > 
> > > > > Gives it flavour.  It's the liquid in the lemon juice wot molishes
> > > > > it to 
> > > > > set, but ordinary water is better.
> > > > 
> > > > Nah, lemon juice, or better, lime juice - makes smashing tasty icing.
> > > > 
> > > But only if you like the taste of lemon or lime icing, presumably.  To 
> > > me, it sounds revolting.
> > 
> > Wot *DO* you like?
> > 
> I'm not keen on fruity flavoured things in general, but I do like 
> coconut, pineapple and red fruits like blackcurrant, cherry etc.  TAAW I 
> like curry, pancakes, black tea, decent ale, malt whisky...

Oh, as you were them.

Malt whisky...

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