Dear Newsgroup:

You might wonder what is the relationship between food and gas prices
globally and new newsgroups?

One way of looking at it is this:

The society does not believe their delivery of promises of
politicians, educators, administrators etc.

This simply translates into the society’s mind namely its
intellectuals.

Since there is a crisis in it namely in academia, politicians need to
get control of this cancer tumor (of brain) in the person (if we
assume the society is like a person).

Thus food and gas control means a way of chaining this person for
control of its behavior.

Thus you see the root is within the academia, which is sick, and say
has heart problems.

This in turn means the system will evwntually support my new
newsgroups to cure the person (namely the society’s health).

Thus I am sure they will come to me.

You are laughing or not it makes no difference.

Now did you get a picture of relationship BETWEEN FOOD AND GAS PRICES
AND MY NEW NEWSGRPUPS?

It is a reality, no doubt about it.

For those like to know why it took me so long to reach here, I say a
revolution in math and education requires such investment.

Welcome to Basti Newsgroups, start becoming a member.

Sign in at Google.

Dr.Mehran Basti

Mehran Basti  wrote:

> It is a reality, no doubt about it.

I think you mean it is a figment of your fevered imagination, Batsi.
Keep this up and as far as I'm concerned you'll be fair game, whether
you're delusional or not. 

-- 
^Ï^                               Sn!pe  

 <:>---[   Please do not verbally abuse the petty official.   ]---<:>

The message

from Mehran Basti  contains these words:

> Dear Newsgroup:

> delusions snipped <

> Dr.Mehran Basti

 You really are delusional.

 Does our extracting the urine make you feel wanted?

-- 
   Mustapaha and his friendly sacred cows and friendly pigs

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:34:24 -0700 (PDT), Mehran Basti
 wrote:

>You might wonder what is the relationship between food and gas prices
>globally and new newsgroups?
>

It’s hard to get your head round that at first, but if you try to
think of it as one song without the tune but with the words to the
tune of another song but without the words, it may help.

Judith

In message , Judith 
 writes
>On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:34:24 -0700 (PDT), Mehran Basti
> wrote:
>
>>You might wonder what is the relationship between food and gas prices
>>globally and new newsgroups?
>
>It’s hard to get your head round that at first, but if you try to
>think of it as one song without the tune but with the words to the
>tune of another song but without the words, it may help.

Where is Colin Self when he's needed?

-- 
< Paul >

In message <1ikahs1.1k6i6wk1kglhvlN%snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>, Sn!pe 
 writes
>Mehran Basti  wrote:
>
>> It is a reality, no doubt about it.
>
>I think you mean it is a figment of your fevered imagination, Batsi.
>Keep this up and as far as I'm concerned you'll be fair game, whether
>you're delusional or not.

He's just proved he's not a hatstand.

He's more like a mouldy bag of soggy Twiglets.

-- 
< Paul >

In message , Mustapha Shaq Attakamel 
 writes
>The message
>
>from Mehran Basti  contains these words:
>
>> Dear Newsgroup:
>> delusions snipped <
>> Dr.Mehran Basti
>
> You really are delusional.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basti Basti is one of the 
regions of Uttar Pradesh.  Mehran Basti seems to be in a state of utter 
delusion.

> Does our extracting the urine make you feel wanted?

Can we get him to eat mango leaves, so at least we can molish Indian Red 
from his micturition?

-- 
< Paul >

"Mehran Basti"

Dear Newsgroup:

You might wonder what is the relationship between food and gas prices
globally and new newsgroups?

Dear Basti

You're a genius, so here's a simple question : what does the word 'shed' 
mean to you? I'm not asking for any link between shed, food and gas. I'm 
simply asking : what does the word 'shed' mean to you?

Bertie Doe wrote:
: what does the word 'shed'
> mean to you? I'm not asking for any link between shed, food and gas. I'm
> simply asking : what does the word 'shed' mean to you?


Initially a “shed” in my mind brings a picture of a small wooden
structure at the end of your garden where your dog is placed.

Although it could be used for variety of other purposes as well.

Dictionary will give a variety of meaning to the word “shed”.

Although Basti Newsgroup: Rec (public) is a very large class of issues
and rec.sheds is just a small portion of it.

Read Form B.

By the way I am more knowledgeable about movies (50s and 60s) than
sheds.

Anyone here would like to try films in my newsgroups?

Dr.M.Basti

"Mehran Basti"  wrote in message
Bertie Doe wrote:
: what does the word 'shed'
> mean to you? I'm not asking for any link between shed, food and gas. I'm
> simply asking : what does the word 'shed' mean to you?


Initially a “shed” in my mind brings a picture of a small wooden
structure at the end of your garden where your dog is placed.

Are you barking mad? You would put a uk.rec.dog in a uk.rec.shed - RSPCA and 
Kennel Club, duly informed!!

On 18 Jul,  
     Mehran Basti  wrote:

> 
> Initially a “shed” in my mind brings a picture of a small wooden
> structure at the end of your garden where your dog is placed.
> 
I thort that was a kennel, or on bad days, a doghouse.


-- 
Braïn D [13435]
[13435]Change lycos to yahoo to reply.

"Sn!pe"  wrote in message 
news:1ikahs1.1k6i6wk1kglhvlN%snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk...
> Mehran Basti  wrote:
>
>> It is a reality, no doubt about it.
>
> I think you mean it is a figment of your fevered imagination, Batsi.
> Keep this up and as far as I'm concerned you'll be fair game, whether
> you're delusional or not.
>
I just checked it out at groogle (I had him kf'ed here) he might be 
delusional but just reset himself as fair game for me also.

-- 
Chris, (on tour)
Intellect is invisible to the man who has none.
Schopenhauer

In uk.rec.sheds,  (Mustapha Shaq Attakamel) wrote in
::

>The message
>
>from Mehran Basti  contains these words:
>
>> Dear Newsgroup:
>
>> delusions snipped <
>
>> Dr.Mehran Basti
>
> You really are delusional.
>
> Does our extracting the urine make you feel wanted?

Saves him getting up in the night.
-- 
Marc

Hurry, fish here; hurry, fish here;
Fish here, fish here; hurry, hurry.
Harry Ramsden, Harry Ramsden;
Ramsden, Ramsden; hurry, hurry.  (Sn!pe)

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:34:24 -0700 (PDT), Mehran Basti
 said in
:

>You might wonder what is the relationship between food and gas prices
>globally and new newsgroups?

Not really, no.

Guy
-- 
May contain traces of irony.  Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT), Mehran Basti
 said in
:

>Initially a “shed” in my mind brings a picture of a small wooden
>structure at the end of your garden where your dog is placed.

That would be what we call a kennel.

Try again.

Guy
-- 
May contain traces of irony.  Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

The message 
from Znep  contains these words:

> In uk.rec.sheds,  (Mustapha Shaq Attakamel) wrote in
> ::

> >The message
> >
> >from Mehran Basti  contains these words:
> >
> >> Dear Newsgroup:
> >
> >> delusions snipped <
> >
> >> Dr.Mehran Basti
> >
> > You really are delusional.
> >
> > Does our extracting the urine make you feel wanted?

> Saves him getting up in the night.

 Does that mean that it relieves him?

-- 

 Mustapha and friends

The message 
from "Just zis Guy, you know?"  contains these words:

> That would be what we call a kennel.

IRTA kernel and immediately thoughts of nuts came flooding back.

-- 
Skipweasel
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

Guy King said:
> The message 
> from "Just zis Guy, you know?"  contains these words:
>
>> That would be what we call a kennel.
>
> IRTA kernel

Would this be better in the GNU Tricks thread, or possibly the flying
penguins ?

>  and immediately thoughts of nuts came flooding back.

Ah, well, yes.


Discovery of the day :- valgrind. Would have been better if it had been the
discovery of last-year, or even much earlier. Bleargh.


-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:34:24 -0700 (PDT), Mehran Basti
>  said in
> :
>
>> You might wonder what is the relationship between food and gas prices
>> globally and new newsgroups?
>
> Not really, no.
>
Is the correct answer.

-- 
Malc
I said "Oh pretty maid I think you done me wrong"
I said "Oh pretty maid I think you done me wrong"
"You just wait there boy, I'll do you right after evensong"
Sid Kipper

In message <4FC10D3957%brian13434@lycos.co.uk>, at 00:34:49 on Sat, 19 
Jul 2008, me9@privacy.net wibbled
>On 18 Jul,
>     Mehran Basti  wrote:
>
>>
>> Initially a “shed” in my mind brings a picture of a small wooden
>> structure at the end of your garden where your dog is placed.
>>
>I thort that was a kennel, or on bad days, a doghouse.

I'm in the doghouse at the moment. Disremembered SWWTM (ex SWCSE) was 
phoning at 11am and went shopping so she was treated to the ansaphone 
message.

Doghouse slightly alleviated by some giggling from listening to the 
outgoing message[1] which she's not heard before.

[1] "Pedt is out, this is the toaster speaking. Leave your message and 
I'll burn it to a piece of bread and pop it up".

-- 
Pedt

On 2008-07-19, Pedt <"\"@ @\""@user-unknown.mx2.org.uk> wrote:
> In message <4FC10D3957%brian13434@lycos.co.uk>, at 00:34:49 on Sat, 19 
> Jul 2008, me9@privacy.net wibbled
>>On 18 Jul,
>>     Mehran Basti  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Initially a ?shed? in my mind brings a picture of a small wooden
>>> structure at the end of your garden where your dog is placed.
>>>
>>I thort that was a kennel, or on bad days, a doghouse.
>
> I'm in the doghouse at the moment. 

I just obhtug (*) "Seasick Steve's" "Doghouse Music". Dead good it, is.

(* Coo. That's an anagram of the unrotted word.)

-- 
          "Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain
                 and presumptuous desire for a second one."
               [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

In message <4FC10D3957%brian13434@lycos.co.uk>, me9@privacy.net writes
>On 18 Jul,
>     Mehran Basti  wrote:
>
>>
>> Initially a “shed” in my mind brings a picture of a small wooden
>> structure at the end of your garden where your dog is placed.
>>
>I thort that was a kennel, or on bad days, a doghouse.
>
>
OK, so the guy's barking, boom-boom.
-- 
Peter Thomas

On 19 Jul 2008 18:03:53 GMT, Richard Robinson 
 wrote in <48822c89$0$639$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>:

> Discovery of the day :- valgrind. Would have been better if it had been the
> discovery of last-year, or even much earlier. Bleargh.

	Hope you don't have to run it on programmes as big as I did...

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
> On 19 Jul 2008 18:03:53 GMT, Richard Robinson 
>  wrote in <48822c89$0$639$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>:
>
>> Discovery of the day :- valgrind. Would have been better if it had been the
>> discovery of last-year, or even much earlier. Bleargh.
>
> 	Hope you don't have to run it on programmes as big as I did...

Thanks. So do I, I guess. This wasn't too big, right enough.


-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 24 Jul 2008 20:21:15 GMT, Richard Robinson 
 wrote in <4888e43b$0$757$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>:
> Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
>> On 19 Jul 2008 18:03:53 GMT, Richard Robinson 
>>  wrote in <48822c89$0$639$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>:

>>> Discovery of the day :- valgrind. Would have been better if it had been the
>>> discovery of last-year, or even much earlier. Bleargh.

>> 	Hope you don't have to run it on programmes as big as I did...
 
> Thanks. So do I, I guess. This wasn't too big, right enough.

	Output files:

lxplus239> wc GFU*
   322742   1885909  38796482 GFU1200_3.pid17951
   322383   2205873  41973258 GFU1200_4.pid11553
   322625   2207609  42011442 GFU1500_4.pid10417
   322625   1884984  38785191 GFU1500_5.pid8235
   322333   1883231  38745259 GFU1500_6.pid26169
   383239   2320928  47546158 GFU1500_7.pid5999
   322466   1884286  38761427 GFU5000_6.pid5966
   382603   2317171  47458120 GFU5000_7.pid14455

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
> On 24 Jul 2008 20:21:15 GMT, Richard Robinson 
>> Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
>>> On 19 Jul 2008 18:03:53 GMT, Richard Robinson 
>
>>>> Discovery of the day :- valgrind. Would have been better if it had been the
>>>> discovery of last-year, or even much earlier. Bleargh.
>
>>> 	Hope you don't have to run it on programmes as big as I did...
>  
>> Thanks. So do I, I guess. This wasn't too big, right enough.
>
> 	Output files:
>
> lxplus239> wc GFU*
>    322742   1885909  38796482 GFU1200_3.pid17951
>    322383   2205873  41973258 GFU1200_4.pid11553
>    322625   2207609  42011442 GFU1500_4.pid10417
>    322625   1884984  38785191 GFU1500_5.pid8235
>    322333   1883231  38745259 GFU1500_6.pid26169
>    383239   2320928  47546158 GFU1500_7.pid5999
>    322466   1884286  38761427 GFU5000_6.pid5966
>    382603   2317171  47458120 GFU5000_7.pid14455

Gnaahrgh.

How long did you have to spend looking at that lot ?


-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 25 Jul 2008 20:15:25 GMT, Richard Robinson 
 wrote in <488a345d$0$760$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>:
> Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
>> On 24 Jul 2008 20:21:15 GMT, Richard Robinson 
>>> Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
>>>> On 19 Jul 2008 18:03:53 GMT, Richard Robinson 

>>>>> Discovery of the day :- valgrind. Would have been better if it had been the
>>>>> discovery of last-year, or even much earlier. Bleargh.

>>>> 	Hope you don't have to run it on programmes as big as I did...

>>> Thanks. So do I, I guess. This wasn't too big, right enough.

>> 	Output files:

>> lxplus239> wc GFU*
>>    322742   1885909  38796482 GFU1200_3.pid17951
>>    322383   2205873  41973258 GFU1200_4.pid11553
>>    322625   2207609  42011442 GFU1500_4.pid10417
>>    322625   1884984  38785191 GFU1500_5.pid8235
>>    322333   1883231  38745259 GFU1500_6.pid26169
>>    383239   2320928  47546158 GFU1500_7.pid5999
>>    322466   1884286  38761427 GFU5000_6.pid5966
>>    382603   2317171  47458120 GFU5000_7.pid14455
 
> Gnaahrgh.
 
> How long did you have to spend looking at that lot ?

	A week or so.  Found a few memory leaks in the process.  Finding
which ones went with which other ones was time-consuming, but helped
track down the errant Class instantiations.

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
> On 25 Jul 2008 20:15:25 GMT, Richard Robinson 
>  
>> Gnaahrgh.
>  
>> How long did you have to spend looking at that lot ?
>
> 	A week or so.  Found a few memory leaks in the process.  Finding
> which ones went with which other ones was time-consuming, but helped
> track down the errant Class instantiations.

"Not as long as I'd have taken without it" ?


-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 25 Jul 2008 20:55:23 GMT, Richard Robinson 
 wrote in <488a3dbb$0$759$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>:
> Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
>> On 25 Jul 2008 20:15:25 GMT, Richard Robinson 
  
>>> Gnaahrgh.

>>> How long did you have to spend looking at that lot ?

>> 	A week or so.  Found a few memory leaks in the process.  Finding
>> which ones went with which other ones was time-consuming, but helped
>> track down the errant Class instantiations.
 
> "Not as long as I'd have taken without it" ?
 
	Exactamundo!

[idr:~] > du /cms/cmssw/slc4_ia32_gcc345/cms/cmssw/CMSSW_2_0_7/src
...
1043120 /cms/cmssw/slc4_ia32_gcc345/cms/cmssw/CMSSW_2_0_7/src

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
> On 25 Jul 2008 20:55:23 GMT, Richard Robinson 
>   
>>>> Gnaahrgh.
>
> [idr:~] > du /cms/cmssw/slc4_ia32_gcc345/cms/cmssw/CMSSW_2_0_7/src
> 1043120 /cms/cmssw/slc4_ia32_gcc345/cms/cmssw/CMSSW_2_0_7/src


I find that I'm taking to this noise.

Gnaahrgh - The noise one emits when faced with >1Mb of debugging dump on a
Monday morning.



And at that point I discovered that valgrind emits copious 'possible leaks'
stuff on a no-op run of perl itself, and gave up.

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Richard Robinson  wrote:

> And at that point I discovered that valgrind emits copious 'possible leaks'
> stuff on a no-op run of perl itself,

...and is probably correct.

Richard

Richard Bos said:
> Richard Robinson  wrote:
>
>> And at that point I discovered that valgrind emits copious 'possible leaks'
>> stuff on a no-op run of perl itself,
>
> ...and is probably correct.

I dare say. But I find myself capable of regarding the debugging of perl
core as Not My Problem.

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 29 Jul 2008 13:35:36 GMT, Richard Robinson 
 wrote in <488f1ca8$0$625$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>:
> Richard Bos said:
>> Richard Robinson  wrote:

>>> And at that point I discovered that valgrind emits copious 'possible leaks'
>>> stuff on a no-op run of perl itself,

>> ...and is probably correct.
 
> I dare say. But I find myself capable of regarding the debugging of perl
> core as Not My Problem.

	If it's only in one/a few blocks, you can ignore it (for the
present), it's probably per-process stuff, not per-event (to possibly
misapply our computing model to yours...).  In our case that's usually
things like class pointers not being delete-ed at the end of the job.
It's when they don't get delete-ed at the end of an event that we run
into more problems.

	Takes me back to
http://indico.cern.ch/getFile.py/access?contribId=s2t1&sessionId=s2&resId=1&materialId=0&confId=a054324

-- 
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________  CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University.    Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch]    Room 40-1-B12, CERN
        KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Dr Ivan D. Reid said:
> On 29 Jul 2008 13:35:36 GMT, Richard Robinson 
>> Richard Bos said:
>>> Richard Robinson  wrote:
>
>>>> And at that point I discovered that valgrind emits copious 'possible leaks'
>>>> stuff on a no-op run of perl itself,
>
>>> ...and is probably correct.
>  
>> I dare say. But I find myself capable of regarding the debugging of perl
>> core as Not My Problem.
>
> 	If it's only in one/a few blocks, you can ignore it (for the
> present), it's probably per-process stuff, not per-event (to possibly
> misapply our computing model to yours...).  In our case that's usually
> things like class pointers not being delete-ed at the end of the job.
> It's when they don't get delete-ed at the end of an event that we run
> into more problems.


Mmm. It's a perl class that does the XS thing to access a .so library. I
only need one at once, and can have it go out of scope pretty quickly, but
the perl code is a website, which won't necessarily go away for a long time
... I think I just have to assume perl can take care of itself, unless/until
proved otherwise.  I'm fairly satisfied none of them come from my
allocations, anyway[1]. 

> 	Takes me back to
> http://indico.cern.ch/getFile.py/access?contribId=s2t1&sessionId=s2&resId=1&materialId=0&confId=a054324

Ah, I'm not the only person to check an unsigned int for an outofbounds
index, then ? *embarrassed grin*


[1] "fairly" ... the refcount/mortality macros take a bit of looking at, for
a newbie.

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 29/07/2008 13:47, Richard Robinson wrote:

> Gnaahrgh - The noise one emits when faced with >1Mb of debugging dump on a
> Monday morning.

GnaarghAAW.

I had 20MB of rOcael trace file to fight through today ... turned out 
not so bad actually, someone had molished one pyvavp be its own parent 
site, so then the nccbvagzrag letters were printed it got rather 
confused trying to lookup the address.

$deity knows why nobody has noticed prombles with letters being sent out 
for there before, because the errant record hasn't been altered for 130 
fortnights.

On 18/07/2008 19:34, Mehran Basti wrote:

> You might wonder what is the relationship between food and gas prices
> globally and new newsgroups?

Ye $deity!

I gooved EDF were taking the cvff, with a 22% hike, but now Grittish 
Bass are going for 35%

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7533389.stm

If anyone's on estimated meter readings now is a good time to send one 
in to them ...