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date: 23 Mar 2006 21:33:45 -0800,    group: uk.rec.pets.misc        back       
New   
HOWEDY -DT,

dtlofton@hotmail.com wrote:
> Look, I'm new to this thread,

DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST to The Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Forums UNLESS it's to say "THANK YOU The
Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard - Your METHOD SAVED
MY DOG'S LIFE. G-D BLESS YOU".

LIKE THIS:

"Thank you, Jerry, for all you help.
 You've been a blessing to all of us," AIMEE.

And LIKE THIS:

 Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
 group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
 many people are so dang blind or ignorant.

 You just keep plugging away at what you do, because
 you my friend are a life saver!!!

 Anytime you need someone to speak about the results
 of your product, you have my number. We would gladly
 talk to them.

 Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...

 Anthony & Linda Testa
 Jacksonville, Florida

AND LIKE THIS:

From: JesuMaria@
To: jhowe
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual

Thanks, Jerry! All pages were received and
downloaded without any problems!

God bless you! Please know that you will be
remembered in all prayers and sacrifices, and
daily before the Most Blessed Sacrament here
in our Chapel.

With many prayers,
Sister Anthony Marie

Got it?

> so I don't know the history of you

THIS IS ALL YOU GOTTA KNOW:

WELCOME To The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Forums.

I'm Jerry Howe, The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ )  >

Here's your own FREE COPY of The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits'
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> and the people you're using this thread to argue with -

You mean The Miserable Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing
Punk Thug Cowards And Active Acute Chronic Long
Term Incurable Mental Cases who jerk choke shock
bribe crate surgically sexually mutilate an murder
innocent defenseless dumb critters an LIE abHOWET
it <{): ~ (  >

LIKE THIS:

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20

ginge...@my-deja.com wrote:
>  How can I get him to quit chasing the cats.

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong  - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.  Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog.   I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use.   Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars.  At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8)  Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog.   I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation.   Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag.   (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

> but what exactly is your issue?

       "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
                         Never Change,
        Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
         Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
                  For All Handler's And All Dogs
                       AND ALL BEHAVIORS
                 ALL OVER The WHOWEL WILD WORLD
                       NEARLY INSTANTLY,
     As Taught In Your Own FREE Copy Of The Simply Amazing Puppy
     Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY  SUCCESSFUL
     FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
             The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )  >

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

Pavlov Told Us So 100 Years Ago. Sam Corson,
Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH
That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can
Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender
Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific
Management Of Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

"ALL ANIMALS LEARN BEST THROUGH PLAY," Konrad Lorenz.

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS were
moved to a delayed contingency the behavoir and learning
immediately deteriorated.

Despite this, and despite the fact that there was no
evidence of cognitive association with the words, the
authors leap to the conclusion that the fact that the
boys improved in the acquisition of Norwegian words
WITHOUT REWARDS while still being given English
words WITH REWARDS suggest hat the children may
be able to acquire new behaviors on their own.

The need for this study escapes one, particularly in
view of the very well established fact that schizophrenics
condition quite readily (Mednick, 1958)

Kanner (1954) reports that 13 classically autistic
children improved enough to go to school without
"anything that is regarded as good psychotherapy or
as psychotherapy at all..."

Autistic children have been known to become
permenantely social by deinstitutionalization,
BY REMOVAL from the parents, BY RADICAL CHANGES
in other environments, and by MASSIVE DOSAGE of
TOUCHING, HOLDING, FONDLING LOVE DESPITE THE
REJECTION OF THE CHILD."

>  Do you not realize that your posts make you appear
>  as a complete whack-job?

Subject: < BEFORE ->  "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
                      No Good Charlatan,"

< AFTER ->  "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
            A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
            Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
            Dog Lovers.

           'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
           A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.

> Subject:  Re: Fritz---a retrospective
> Date: 02/05/1999
> Author: Robert Crim 
> You filthy, unctuous, no good charlatan.  If you had
> any idea of what dogs and dog people were about
> you would realize the depths of the absolute loathing
> and contempt I hold for you right now.  Were it not
> for the blessed distance and anonymity that the internet
> gives us from the scummy likes of you, I would probably
> be in a jail cell right now for turning you into the pile
> of shit you really are

Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?

Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman

=====================

> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:24:15 -0700, dogsnus

<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy  foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood
enough of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher
and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.

 Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names.  Naive is thinking that dilettante  dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey  (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools?  I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

>Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===========

Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy,
"you insipid piece of cow dung!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

> Do you really expect *anyone* to take you seriously???

BET YOUR LIFE ON IT <{); ~ ) >

 "misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message news
16990-3CAB1F8...@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...

I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's
not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her
loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of
how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea
that my using a shock collar could have any bearing on
Peach not wanting to stay home.

Up until I started using it my main concern had been
keeping my dogs in their own yard.

Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the
anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.

I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g>
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time.

IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry!

                 ---------------

From: Momi...@webtv.net (misty)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:29:09 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?

Beth wrote:
> So, jerry's techniques didnt' work for Peach?

Never had a chance to try them on her... I was still
using the e-fence and chains to keep her in the yard.

The suggestions I received here to keep Peach home were:
build a fence... wasn't going to happen.. we plan on
putting a modular home here within the next few years...
put more fence at the top of the pen I used so both dogs
could play bitey face w/o tangling, and similar suggestions.

Jerry was the only one to mention border training... but he
was kook supreme ;-P  So I ignored him... no killfiles with
webtv..  at that time Jerry had his own troll, somewhat like
Candace, so the group was not very conducive to learning anything.

At one point I even b*tched about Jerry.

By the time I tried out Jerry's manual Peach had already
ran away.

Not very good at the google groups search but you'll find my
first post at "runaway dog message 30"  within that thread
is mention of the dogs taking off and being gone for 2 days.
I stopped posting for a bit... my middle boy was devastated
that his dog was gone... Zelda came home but not her mom.

The next few posts from me were ones about/to Jerry.

Then Jerry made the WETM accessible for webbes,  I put it
in my e-mail (no storage otherwise on webby unless you put
stuff on a webpage) and read it, read it and read it.

Once I understood what the concept was, I implemented it
on Zelda.  It worked and I now have a great housedog!

I only regret that my own distrust of Jerry caused me to
lose another wonderful dog. Peach was an absolute gem with
little kids.  I and my boys still miss her.  Sometimes I
still look to see if she came home when we get back from trips.

Maybe Peach would still have ran away... I don't know
and never will....

~misty
                     ---------------

From: "Jerry Howe" 
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:16:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?

Peach would be there sittin pretty had our pals not given
you a bum steer cause they're EMBARRASSED and AFRAID of
losing their careers and reputations....

Stick around, we're just startin to have FUN learning and
sharing...J;~)
                            ---------------


misty"  wrote in message
news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net.

 We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two
 dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.

 Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come
 back in the yard and would run for days.

The last time, Peach didn't come back home.

 I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train
 my dog. She is now border trained.  A few minutes each day
 reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.

She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around
the yard.

 I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
 e-fence and its collars.  If you can't get a regular fence
 then you need to train your dog.

I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog
in our yard again.

The price was too high:-( ~misty

              --------------------------------

"misty"  wrote in message
news:12208-3BB67479-427@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net.

Hi Cathy!

Yes I used The Wits End Method to train my girl, Zelda.
You can check the archives and see I'm a real person..

I post in misc.kids.breastfeeding, alt.cats rec.pets.cats.annecdotes
(not lately, my kitty died) rec.pets.dogs.behavior rec.pets.birds and
a ton of webtv firewalled ngs.

Zelda and her mom, Peach (RB) both loved to run the
neighborhood with my neighbors 2 male dogs.  An e-fence
couldn't keep them home, chains pulled up and Peach could
jump/climb a 5 ft. fence.

I wrote in here for advice and felt like Jerry had jumped
down my throat.  Upon re-reading his post to me..well..it
hit home hard that I was being abusive to my dog.

The thought of shocking my dog ever again makes me
want to puke.

Like I've said before... I might not like the way Jerry
treats some of the other posters but he gave me ( for _free_)
a way to teach myself and my dog.

 I can let Zelda outside and not worry that a potty break
will mean she'll be gone for 2 days or, worse yet, not ever
come home...like her mom.

 Zelda stopped chewing everything in sight once I started
applying Jerry's methods.  One time of "bad slipper!" and
she never chewed another one up :-D

 I don't post here a lot because I don't ave any problems
needing solved. I do join in occasionally or post informative
lnks.  I just feel that my limited experience precludes me
from jumping in every thread <shrug> but I do read all of them.

 If you want my phone number, e-mail me.  We would have to
set up a time because I'm on the webbie a lot and we only
have 1 phone line.

 ~misty

                    =============

My student Anthony summed it all up:

"Alpha"  wrote in message

news:bsf69.5447$g9.19553@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...

> Well there you go, I was willing to believe but then jerry
> it was another hallucination of yours, just like all those
> thank you letters you write, a lie, a fabrication, a wank...

 From: TESTA52601 (testa52...@aol.com)
 Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
 Date: 2002-03-28 10:01:34 PST

 Alpha,
 It's uneducated, ball breakers like you that create dismay
 throughout this society. Get a life. you took apart a
 letter from someone who has shown nothing but love and
 caring, including lots of money and twisted it to YOUR
 point. Ever consider politics?

 I challenge you to show me your credentials and
 results you come up with. The things I did with
 the dog WAS against MY wishes. However, I
 listen to pencil neck geeks that sit behind a monitor
 and get 30 different suggestions.

 This dog could not be happier if she was gnawing
 on all three of your legs.

 The bottom line to my letter was to tell people
 "don't knock it until you try it"

 P.S. Write me personally if you have any credentials.......

             ======================


From: lucyaa...@claque.net
Date: 22 May 2005 22:08:53 -0700
Subject: Re: My lab seems to get targeted at the dog park

dinglejingl...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Anyone else have an opinion?

I'm not a trainer and my experience is limited to my
two dogs, so take it for what it's worth. As someone
who had to deal with a puppy who had his own ideas
about what was and what wasn't "proper behavior", I
was very happy to find The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
dog training method.

It is a method that is gentle to the dog, very easy
to apply and it has been working wonderfully with
both my dogs, giving practically instant results.

It was as if I had been given the "key" to understanding
and controlling my puppy's behavior: suddenly, he was
istening to me, doing what I was asking him to do, instead
of constantly opposing me.

It also worked with some issues my older dog had, too -
her fear of thunder, her barking and her aggression
towards another female dog.

Don't let either the first impression about the "weirdness"
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard, or the regulars' negative opinion
of him (there's a long history behind it) deter you from at
least reading the manual and deciding for yourself if you
want to try it or not.

I wish all the best to you and your dog.

Lucy

                  ---------------

> I read about half of your ridiculously long first post,

Made you feel like a DOG ABUSER a COWARD and a CHUMP.

DIDN'T IT.

> and then concluded you were a whack-job,

THAT'S HOWE COME The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard
SEZ "DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS" an
YOU PROVED IT WON MORE TIME.

> and just started skipping the posts from you.

          "It is by muteness that a dog becomes
                so utterly beyond value."

                Like a confessor Priest?

        "With him, words play no torturing tricks..., "
                  --John Galsworthy.

           Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
                 Their behaviors reflect
          HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
          Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~  )  >


                  Punishment Deranges Behavior.
         "NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
                         EXCEPT
                   To DERANGE Behaviors.

Here's professor dermer pryor:

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

     And how do we know this aspect of his
     advice is right?

     Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
     His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

     (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
     few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
     ill-mannered, or just plain ill.­),

     --Marshall

       Marshall Lev Dermer/ Department of Psychology/
       University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee/ Milwaukee,
       WI 53201/ der...@uwm.edu
       http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer

   "Life is just too serious to be taken entirely seriousyl!"

From: der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall Dermer) -
Date: 1998/08/28
Subject: Re: Puppy growls and snaps

In article <6s6ea0$8c...@uwm.edu> der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu

(Marshall Dermer) writes:
> In article 
> tami sutherland writes:
>> However, there have been incidences where she has
>> growled and snapped at us...for instance, when we
>>  were trying to dry her off after bathtime.

> When your three-month old pooch growls or snaps,
> IMMEDIATELY pick her up ONLY by the skin at the
> back of her neck, for 5 sec, and loudly say, "NO!"
> Alternatively, say "NO!"  and hold her mouth shut
> for say 15 sec.

> If she so snaps that you can't do the above then you
> will have to find another way to administer a prompt
> correction, for example, throwing a can filled with
> pennies, or a tug on the collar.

 --Marshall

"Oops!  I would start by only holing her mouth
shut for say 5 sec.

At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:

    "We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
    Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
    God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
    Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

 From: "Marshall Dermer" 
 To: "The Puppy Wizard"
 
 Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

 Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
 Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

 I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
 and now must applaud your attempts to save
 animals from painful training procedures.

 You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent­,
 who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts ­to
 alert the world to animal abuse.

 We are lucky to have you, and more people should
 come to their senses and support your valuable  work.

 Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
 charity to fund your important work?

 Have you thought about holding a press conference
 so others can learn of your highly worthwhile and
 significant work?

 In closing, my only suggestion is that you
 try to keep your messages short for most
 readers may refuse to read a long message
 even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
 I wish you well in your endeavors.

 --Marshall Dermer

> If you truly want to reach people,

DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS.

> and bring them to your point of view,

DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS.

>  you need to radically change your approach.

O.K. NO PROBLEMO:


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HOWE'S THAT???

> Maybe you have some good points

DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS.

>  and wisdom buried in the crazy-talk -

The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard MOSTLY QUOTES other folks.
to IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT them or to verify HIS
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method.

YOU DON'T LIKE the TRUTH.

>  I don't know,

That's preposterHOWES. You KNOW doGdameneD well
otherWIZE YOU WOULDN'T BE POSTIN here abHOWETS.

> because I'm not going to try to suffer through
> your crazy-talk to try to find out.

You mean on accHOWENT of it makes you FEEL like
a dog abuser a coward and a CHUMP, eh -DT???

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!

> And if you respond to this post with more of your
> long-winded crazy-talk, I won't read that either.

On accHOWENT of it'll EMBARRASS YOU TO DEATH.

> -DT



         From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)

       The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training
for years. I have a huge library that covers
every system of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End
Training Method is by far the most scientific,
the most advanced, the kindest, the quickest
and the most effective training method yet
discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and
tricks; it is a logically consistent system.
Every behavior problem and every obedience
skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please
endeavor to understand the basis of his system
and please follow his directions exactly. His
manual is a masterpiece. It is dense with
theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur
and how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his
methods based upon what you personally like or
dislike. His is not a bag of tricks but a complete
and integrated system for not only training a dog
but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system
creates for you the dog of your dreams, his
response was that it produces for your dog the
owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are
gentle with your dog then he will be gentle
with you, if you praise your dog every time he
looks at you, then you will become the center
of your dogs world, if you use Jerry's sound
distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train
your dog to not misbehave (even in your
absence) (Just 15 seconds this morning to train
my 10 week old puppy to lie quietly and let me
clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound
distraction / praise / alteration / variation)
it takes just minutes to train you dog to
respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week
old puppy running as fast has his wobbly little
legs would carry him in response to my recall
command-and he comes running every time I call
no matter where we are or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains
upon his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold
exercises and his Family Pack Leadership
exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog,
if you scream at him, if you intimidate him, if
you hurt him, if you force him then his natural
response is to oppose you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he
is or not. It is a logical fallacy to judge a
person's ideas based upon their personality. As
far as dogs are concerned, Jerry wears his heart
upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when he
hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding
or hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows  that force is not
effective and that it will certainly  lead to
behavior problems; sometime problems so severe
that people put their dogs down because of those
problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to
control their dog by force. Jerry knows this too.
We have all been at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In
scientific literature it is referred to
allelomimetic behavior. Dogs respond in like kind
to force; they respond in like kind to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your
praise. You will be astonished at how your dog 's
anxiety will dissipate and how their behavior
problems will dissipate along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as
you would the law of gravity and you will have
astounding success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a
sweet little Magwai; if you don't you will surely
get a little gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).

--Larry

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        "Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
        news:

        I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
        dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
        I do not know what started the problem but he came
        aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
        snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
        and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
        ad I took him with me everywhere.

        At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
        Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
        clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
        it was not working on his aggression problem.

        I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
        trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
        They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
        and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
        suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
        working as he was becoming more aggressive.

        I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
        away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
        on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
        use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

        I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
        ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
        LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
        University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
        had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
        gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
        have the people stop until he could get in control using
        treats, and work on clicker training.

        At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
        the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
        would not come when I called him and would run away when
        I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
        neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
        hasn't trained her dog"

        I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
        were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
        were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
        said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
        say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
        responsible for him."

        *(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
        DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

        As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
        going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
        Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
        Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
        He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
        not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

        The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
        I had been working for 18 months!

        Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
        from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
        I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
        blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
        can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

        I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
        -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
        looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
        on by.

        When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
        me like "you must be out of your mind"

        The results can make a believer!!!

        Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
        Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
        in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

        He just seemed to not notice any one.

        When people talked to him or ask his name he would
        look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

        I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
        enjoy life out in public.

        If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
        was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
        Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
        toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

        My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
        dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
        out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

        I know most people would have given up on him a long time
        ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
        but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

        I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

        ================================

        From: Linda Daniel
        To: Jerry Howe
        Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
        Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

        Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
        to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
        save so many lives.  I know at times I was so frustrated I
        thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
        have but many people would have.  The world just does not
        know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
        solve problems.

        We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
        -just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
        you could meet us would be great.  I drive so I would be
        happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

        We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
        right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
        scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
        would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
        to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

        He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
        those on rollerblades!  I have always used a gentle leader
        in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
        grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

        Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
        stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose.  He never
        pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
        a hard time getting him going--at times  I think he could
        smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

        I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

        I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
        walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
        a problem with other people and dogs.

        I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
        to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
        around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
        treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
        coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
        and not move until we backed away-

        - can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
        until I get his attention with treats.

        They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
        but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
        him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
        sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
        to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
        heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

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From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

> We have another little guy, Milo, who is the opposite...
> you could sit only milo and he would love it and start
> playing...he is the ideal beagle pet.  It is amazing the
> difference between the two.

          "Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
                        as separate, not the wise.

              If any man knows one, he enjoys the fruit of both.

                   The level which is reached by wisdom
                              is attained
                       through right action as well.

           He who perceives that the two are one knows the truth."

            "Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
            indeed all creatures act according to their natures.

                  What is the use of compulsion then?

                The love and hate which are aroused by
                            the objects of sense
                arise from Nature, do not yield to them.
                      They only obstruct the path," -
                      - Bhagavad Gita, adapted by
                      Krishna with permission from
                      His FREE copy of The Puppy
                      Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog
                      Training Method manual <{) ; ~  )   >

                In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
                          FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
                             SAME SAME,
               For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

          The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME Is the Perfect Synergy Of
                Love, Pride, Desire, Shame, Greed, Ego, Fear,
                         Hate, Reflex, Self Will,
               Arrogance, Ignorance, Predjudice, Cowardice,
            Disbelief, Jealousy, Embarrassment, Embellishment,
                 Guilt, Anger, Hopelessness, Helplesness,
          Aversion, Attraction, Inhibition, Revulsion, Repulsion,
            Change, Permanence, Enlightenment, Insult, Attrition,
                                 And
              Parental / ReligiHOWES / Societal Conditioning.

                  YOU ARE THE CRITTER YOU WAS TRAINED.

         It Is The Perfect Fusion Of The Word..., In The Physical.

               "The thinking that got us into this mess
                 will be insufficient to get us out of it."
                         --Albert Einstein
date: 23 Mar 2006 21:33:45 -0800   author:   unknown

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