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date: Tue, 08 May 2007 21:51:28 GMT,    group: uk.rec.pets.misc        back       
When the time is right?   
Hi all,

I have a 15 and half year old English Cocker Spaniel who is now getting old
and tired. During her life she has had little in the way of health problems
but over the last two years in particular has slowed down to a point where
she spends the majority of her time sleeping and only wanders as far as the
back garden. She now poo's and wee's in the house which we have learned to
cope with (Vax is very useful!) and will walk around in circles and not be
so interested in contact and been with us. Due to the leaking if is often
necessary to bath her once a day to avoid her smelling too much, we intend
to replace all the carpet once she is no longer with us.

We can no longer leave her with friends/neighbors for the day and it would
now be difficult for us to take her away in the caravan so this year we have
made no plans to go anywhere as we need to stay with her.

I will be devastated when she finally goes, she is my first and only dog and
has been a real friend to me and I will find it so difficult if I have to
make a decision at some point to have her put down.

I guess what I am asking here is am I doing the right thing at the moment, I
do not know what her quality of life is and I suppose I just want to think
its ok and let things carry on for now. It's easy for me to get emotional
over this and a number of years ago I found this poem which I have kept the
link to that brings tears to my eyes every time I look at it
http://www.la-spca.org/pet_loss/comfort/last_battle.htm

I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Paul
date: Tue, 08 May 2007 21:51:28 GMT   author:   Paul

Re: When the time is right?   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:Ah60i.9666$8E.9410@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> I guess what I am asking here is am I doing the right thing at the moment, 
> I
> do not know what her quality of life is and I suppose I just want to think
> its ok and let things carry on for now. It's easy for me to get emotional
> over this and a number of years ago I found this poem which I have kept 
> the
> link to that brings tears to my eyes every time I look at it
> http://www.la-spca.org/pet_loss/comfort/last_battle.htm
>
> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Paul,
ultimately I`d say that the person best placed to make this decision is 
you - you see her every day, you know how she`s been through her life and 
you`ll be the best person to see what her quality of life is really like - 
you`ve just got to be honest with yourself.  I think we`ve all been there, 
trying to leave the decision for another day.

As for being a 43 year old bloke - it really doesn`t matter.  When it comes 
down to things like this, everyone is the same, we all get hurt.  But in the 
long run, if you`ve done it for the right reasons, you will come to accept 
that in time.
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:33:55 +0100   author:   Simon Finnigan

Re: When the time is right?   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:Ah60i.9666$8E.9410@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> I guess what I am asking here is am I doing the right thing at the moment, 
> I
> do not know what her quality of life is and I suppose I just want to think
> its ok and let things carry on for now. It's easy for me to get emotional
> over this and a number of years ago I found this poem which I have kept 
> the
> link to that brings tears to my eyes every time I look at it
> http://www.la-spca.org/pet_loss/comfort/last_battle.htm
>
> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Paul,
ultimately I`d say that the person best placed to make this decision is 
you - you see her every day, you know how she`s been through her life and 
you`ll be the best person to see what her quality of life is really like - 
you`ve just got to be honest with yourself.  I think we`ve all been there, 
trying to leave the decision for another day.

As for being a 43 year old bloke - it really doesn`t matter.  When it comes 
down to things like this, everyone is the same, we all get hurt.  But in the 
long run, if you`ve done it for the right reasons, you will come to accept 
that in time.
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:33:55 +0100   author:   Simon Finnigan

Re: When the time is right?   
The message from "Paul"  contains these words:

> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


May I Go?

May I go now?
Do you think the time is right?
May I say goodbye to pain filled days
and endless lonely nights?

I've lived my life and done my best,
an example tried to be.
So can I take that step beyond
and set my spirit free?

I didn't want to go at first,
I fought with all my might.
But something seems to draw me now
to a warm and loving light.

I want to go. I really do.
It's difficult to stay.
But I will try as best I can
to live just one more day.

To give you time to care for me
and share your love and fears.
I know you're sad and afraid,
because I see your tears.

I'll not be far, I promise that,
and hope you'll always know
that my spirit will be close to you
wherever you may go.

Thank you so for loving me.
You know I love you, too.
That's why it's hard to say goodbye
and end this life with you.

So hold me now just one more time
and let me hear you say,
because you care so much for me,
you'll let me go today. 

-- 
AnneJ 

Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. 
~Rosa Luxemburg
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 22:38:48 +0100   author:   Anne Jackson

Re: When the time is right?   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:Ah60i.9666$8E.9410@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> I guess what I am asking here is am I doing the right thing at the moment, 
> I
> do not know what her quality of life is and I suppose I just want to think
> its ok and let things carry on for now. It's easy for me to get emotional
> over this and a number of years ago I found this poem which I have kept 
> the
> link to that brings tears to my eyes every time I look at it
> http://www.la-spca.org/pet_loss/comfort/last_battle.htm
>
> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Paul,
ultimately I`d say that the person best placed to make this decision is 
you - you see her every day, you know how she`s been through her life and 
you`ll be the best person to see what her quality of life is really like - 
you`ve just got to be honest with yourself.  I think we`ve all been there, 
trying to leave the decision for another day.

As for being a 43 year old bloke - it really doesn`t matter.  When it comes 
down to things like this, everyone is the same, we all get hurt.  But in the 
long run, if you`ve done it for the right reasons, you will come to accept 
that in time.
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:33:55 +0100   author:   Simon Finnigan

Re: When the time is right?   
The message from "Paul"  contains these words:

> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


May I Go?

May I go now?
Do you think the time is right?
May I say goodbye to pain filled days
and endless lonely nights?

I've lived my life and done my best,
an example tried to be.
So can I take that step beyond
and set my spirit free?

I didn't want to go at first,
I fought with all my might.
But something seems to draw me now
to a warm and loving light.

I want to go. I really do.
It's difficult to stay.
But I will try as best I can
to live just one more day.

To give you time to care for me
and share your love and fears.
I know you're sad and afraid,
because I see your tears.

I'll not be far, I promise that,
and hope you'll always know
that my spirit will be close to you
wherever you may go.

Thank you so for loving me.
You know I love you, too.
That's why it's hard to say goodbye
and end this life with you.

So hold me now just one more time
and let me hear you say,
because you care so much for me,
you'll let me go today. 

-- 
AnneJ 

Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. 
~Rosa Luxemburg
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 22:38:48 +0100   author:   Anne Jackson

Re: When the time is right?   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:Ah60i.9666$8E.9410@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> I guess what I am asking here is am I doing the right thing at the moment, 
> I
> do not know what her quality of life is and I suppose I just want to think
> its ok and let things carry on for now. It's easy for me to get emotional
> over this and a number of years ago I found this poem which I have kept 
> the
> link to that brings tears to my eyes every time I look at it
> http://www.la-spca.org/pet_loss/comfort/last_battle.htm
>
> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Paul,
ultimately I`d say that the person best placed to make this decision is 
you - you see her every day, you know how she`s been through her life and 
you`ll be the best person to see what her quality of life is really like - 
you`ve just got to be honest with yourself.  I think we`ve all been there, 
trying to leave the decision for another day.

As for being a 43 year old bloke - it really doesn`t matter.  When it comes 
down to things like this, everyone is the same, we all get hurt.  But in the 
long run, if you`ve done it for the right reasons, you will come to accept 
that in time.
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:33:55 +0100   author:   Simon Finnigan

Re: When the time is right?   
The message from "Paul"  contains these words:

> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


May I Go?

May I go now?
Do you think the time is right?
May I say goodbye to pain filled days
and endless lonely nights?

I've lived my life and done my best,
an example tried to be.
So can I take that step beyond
and set my spirit free?

I didn't want to go at first,
I fought with all my might.
But something seems to draw me now
to a warm and loving light.

I want to go. I really do.
It's difficult to stay.
But I will try as best I can
to live just one more day.

To give you time to care for me
and share your love and fears.
I know you're sad and afraid,
because I see your tears.

I'll not be far, I promise that,
and hope you'll always know
that my spirit will be close to you
wherever you may go.

Thank you so for loving me.
You know I love you, too.
That's why it's hard to say goodbye
and end this life with you.

So hold me now just one more time
and let me hear you say,
because you care so much for me,
you'll let me go today. 

-- 
AnneJ 

Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. 
~Rosa Luxemburg
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 22:38:48 +0100   author:   Anne Jackson

Re: When the time is right?   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:Ah60i.9666$8E.9410@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> I guess what I am asking here is am I doing the right thing at the moment, 
> I
> do not know what her quality of life is and I suppose I just want to think
> its ok and let things carry on for now. It's easy for me to get emotional
> over this and a number of years ago I found this poem which I have kept 
> the
> link to that brings tears to my eyes every time I look at it
> http://www.la-spca.org/pet_loss/comfort/last_battle.htm
>
> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Paul,
ultimately I`d say that the person best placed to make this decision is 
you - you see her every day, you know how she`s been through her life and 
you`ll be the best person to see what her quality of life is really like - 
you`ve just got to be honest with yourself.  I think we`ve all been there, 
trying to leave the decision for another day.

As for being a 43 year old bloke - it really doesn`t matter.  When it comes 
down to things like this, everyone is the same, we all get hurt.  But in the 
long run, if you`ve done it for the right reasons, you will come to accept 
that in time.
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:33:55 +0100   author:   Simon Finnigan

Re: When the time is right?   
The message from "Paul"  contains these words:

> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


May I Go?

May I go now?
Do you think the time is right?
May I say goodbye to pain filled days
and endless lonely nights?

I've lived my life and done my best,
an example tried to be.
So can I take that step beyond
and set my spirit free?

I didn't want to go at first,
I fought with all my might.
But something seems to draw me now
to a warm and loving light.

I want to go. I really do.
It's difficult to stay.
But I will try as best I can
to live just one more day.

To give you time to care for me
and share your love and fears.
I know you're sad and afraid,
because I see your tears.

I'll not be far, I promise that,
and hope you'll always know
that my spirit will be close to you
wherever you may go.

Thank you so for loving me.
You know I love you, too.
That's why it's hard to say goodbye
and end this life with you.

So hold me now just one more time
and let me hear you say,
because you care so much for me,
you'll let me go today. 

-- 
AnneJ 

Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. 
~Rosa Luxemburg
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 22:38:48 +0100   author:   Anne Jackson

Re: When the time is right?   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:Ah60i.9666$8E.9410@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> I guess what I am asking here is am I doing the right thing at the moment, 
> I
> do not know what her quality of life is and I suppose I just want to think
> its ok and let things carry on for now. It's easy for me to get emotional
> over this and a number of years ago I found this poem which I have kept 
> the
> link to that brings tears to my eyes every time I look at it
> http://www.la-spca.org/pet_loss/comfort/last_battle.htm
>
> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Paul,
ultimately I`d say that the person best placed to make this decision is 
you - you see her every day, you know how she`s been through her life and 
you`ll be the best person to see what her quality of life is really like - 
you`ve just got to be honest with yourself.  I think we`ve all been there, 
trying to leave the decision for another day.

As for being a 43 year old bloke - it really doesn`t matter.  When it comes 
down to things like this, everyone is the same, we all get hurt.  But in the 
long run, if you`ve done it for the right reasons, you will come to accept 
that in time.
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:33:55 +0100   author:   Simon Finnigan

Re: When the time is right?   
The message from "Paul"  contains these words:

> I happen to be a 43 year old bloke with a wife and two young children but
> when my dog is finally put to rest it is going to be very difficult.

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


May I Go?

May I go now?
Do you think the time is right?
May I say goodbye to pain filled days
and endless lonely nights?

I've lived my life and done my best,
an example tried to be.
So can I take that step beyond
and set my spirit free?

I didn't want to go at first,
I fought with all my might.
But something seems to draw me now
to a warm and loving light.

I want to go. I really do.
It's difficult to stay.
But I will try as best I can
to live just one more day.

To give you time to care for me
and share your love and fears.
I know you're sad and afraid,
because I see your tears.

I'll not be far, I promise that,
and hope you'll always know
that my spirit will be close to you
wherever you may go.

Thank you so for loving me.
You know I love you, too.
That's why it's hard to say goodbye
and end this life with you.

So hold me now just one more time
and let me hear you say,
because you care so much for me,
you'll let me go today. 

-- 
AnneJ 

Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. 
~Rosa Luxemburg
date: Wed, 9 May 2007 22:38:48 +0100   author:   Anne Jackson

Re: When the time is right?   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:Ah60i.9666$8E.9410@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a 15 and half year old English Cocker Spaniel who is now getting 
> old
> and tired.

Hi Pual
I know just how you feel,have been there twice in the last 22 yrs.

1 dog 5 dogs, get no easier afraid,we now have a third dog
a Golden Retreaver,each time we've said never again.

But the love they give just can't be got any where else.

You know your dog best of all, it's now a one way road.

Your dog will feel no pain and it's over for her in seconds.

It's been of great help to myself and Wife that each time we've
had to vet out to to house and had them put to sleep in their normal
surrounding,and they don't get stressed.

I've then buried them in the garden what little we have of one,but
we still feel they are with us.

The one thing you can't do is to let suffer to much pain by trying
to hang to her ,she's been to good for that.

You've now got tears in my eyes,
Very best wishes.
Baz


> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Paul
>
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:41:19 +0100   author:   ForeverArsenal

Re: When the time is right?   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:Ah60i.9666$8E.9410@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a 15 and half year old English Cocker Spaniel who is now getting 
> old
> and tired.

Hi Pual
I know just how you feel,have been there twice in the last 22 yrs.

1 dog 5 dogs, get no easier afraid,we now have a third dog
a Golden Retreaver,each time we've said never again.

But the love they give just can't be got any where else.

You know your dog best of all, it's now a one way road.

Your dog will feel no pain and it's over for her in seconds.

It's been of great help to myself and Wife that each time we've
had to vet out to to house and had them put to sleep in their normal
surrounding,and they don't get stressed.

I've then buried them in the garden what little we have of one,but
we still feel they are with us.

The one thing you can't do is to let suffer to much pain by trying
to hang to her ,she's been to good for that.

You've now got tears in my eyes,
Very best wishes.
Baz


> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Paul
>
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:41:19 +0100   author:   ForeverArsenal

Re: When the time is right?   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:Ah60i.9666$8E.9410@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a 15 and half year old English Cocker Spaniel who is now getting 
> old
> and tired.

Hi Pual
I know just how you feel,have been there twice in the last 22 yrs.

1 dog 5 dogs, get no easier afraid,we now have a third dog
a Golden Retreaver,each time we've said never again.

But the love they give just can't be got any where else.

You know your dog best of all, it's now a one way road.

Your dog will feel no pain and it's over for her in seconds.

It's been of great help to myself and Wife that each time we've
had to vet out to to house and had them put to sleep in their normal
surrounding,and they don't get stressed.

I've then buried them in the garden what little we have of one,but
we still feel they are with us.

The one thing you can't do is to let suffer to much pain by trying
to hang to her ,she's been to good for that.

You've now got tears in my eyes,
Very best wishes.
Baz


> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Paul
>
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:41:19 +0100   author:   ForeverArsenal

Re: When the time is right?   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:Ah60i.9666$8E.9410@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a 15 and half year old English Cocker Spaniel who is now getting 
> old
> and tired.

Hi Pual
I know just how you feel,have been there twice in the last 22 yrs.

1 dog 5 dogs, get no easier afraid,we now have a third dog
a Golden Retreaver,each time we've said never again.

But the love they give just can't be got any where else.

You know your dog best of all, it's now a one way road.

Your dog will feel no pain and it's over for her in seconds.

It's been of great help to myself and Wife that each time we've
had to vet out to to house and had them put to sleep in their normal
surrounding,and they don't get stressed.

I've then buried them in the garden what little we have of one,but
we still feel they are with us.

The one thing you can't do is to let suffer to much pain by trying
to hang to her ,she's been to good for that.

You've now got tears in my eyes,
Very best wishes.
Baz


> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Paul
>
date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:41:19 +0100   author:   ForeverArsenal

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