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Odonata IDs please
Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
(Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
TIA
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:01:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley
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Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
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Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
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Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your shot, I`m
afraid.
2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers properly.
25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny brown) then
a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
34. male Azure
35. male Azure
36. male Azure
38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets particularly
difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a blue Damselfly that in
most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar between the eye spots, suggesting
interbreeding with possibly the Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also,
when taking shots of the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as
possible, as thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with
IDs, particularly with the females and immatures.
Kate
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
news:cvUQzEhTjWdGFwLO@meden.invalid...
> Could people kindly confirm or provide identifications for my various
> pictures of dragonflies, demoiselle flies and damselflies at
>
> http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Odonata/Odonata.php
>
> (Note: the images have been trimmed, reduced and compressed, but there's
> still the best part of 2Mb worth.)
>
> The dragonflies are I assume nearly all Sympetrum striolatum, but I
> could have misrecorded one of the other darters as that species.
>
> TIA
> --
> Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:04:13 +0100
author: Kate @*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk
|
Re: Odonata IDs please
In message <f55vsh$lgh$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Kate
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>I`m not an expert, Stewart, but here goes :
>
>1. it is a dragonfly, not a damselfly, but I cannot ID it from your
>shot, I`m
> afraid.
>2. is definitely a male Broad-bodied Chaser
>7. might be an immature male, but I could not see the claspers
>properly.
>25. from clasper length, I would say it was an immature male.
>29. if the wing colour is correct (a coppery brown and not a greeny
>brown) then
> a female Beautiful Demoiselle.
>30. probably a male Banded Demoiselle.
>31. female Azure Damselfly, Ceonagrion puella
>34. male Azure
>35. male Azure
>36. male Azure
>38. probably a teneral male Blue-tailed Damselfly, Ischnura elegans.
>
>I find the blue damselflies the most troublesome varieties to ID,
>although the Azures and Common Blues are _usually_ OK. It gets
>particularly difficult if they interbreed, though. I have a shot of a
>blue Damselfly that in most respects is an Azure, but it has a bar
>between the eye spots, suggesting interbreeding with possibly the
>Southern Damselfly or Variable Damselfly. Also, when taking shots of
>the Darter Dragonflies, I try to get as many angles as possible, as
>thoracic patterns, face and anal appendages details can help with IDs,
>particularly with the females and immatures.
>
>Kate
Thanks.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:13:07 +0100
author: Stewart Robert Hinsley {$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk
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