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9th september 2008

"I am the chairman of the Cardiff Model Engineering Society in Heath
Park.

I would like to introduce some accuracy into the debate over our
activities as described by Councillor Page and Mr Britton who have
recently had letters published in the Echo.

The article Coun Page is referring to was an independent report
written by Gary Summerhayes for the Echo.  Mr Summerhayes reflects,
with accuracy,  the views of the majority of visitors that make use of
our amenity.

Members of the public often visit the railway site and are made more
than welcome and given a site tour. Coun Page knows this perfectly
well as he been on site and had many a chat with myself and other
members.  "

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/09/09/true-picture-of-our-work-at-rail-society-91466-21708420/

Chris

On Sep 10, 12:51 pm, Dragon Heart  wrote:
> WalesOnline
>
> South Wales Echo
>
> 9th september 2008
>
> "I am the chairman of the Cardiff Model Engineering Society in Heath
> Park.
>
> I would like to introduce some accuracy into the debate over our
> activities as described by Councillor Page and Mr Britton who have
> recently had letters published in the Echo.
>
> The article Coun Page is referring to was an independent report
> written by Gary Summerhayes for the Echo.  Mr Summerhayes reflects,
> with accuracy,  the views of the majority of visitors that make use of
> our amenity.
>
> Members of the public often visit the railway site and are made more
> than welcome and given a site tour. Coun Page knows this perfectly
> well as he been on site and had many a chat with myself and other
> members.  "
>
> http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-e...
>
> Chris

And...?

"Dragon Heart"  wrote in message 
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> WalesOnline
>
> South Wales Echo
>
> 9th september 2008
>
> "I am the chairman of the Cardiff Model Engineering Society in Heath
> Park.
>

...and it's relevance to this group is what exactly, considering that 
news:uk.rec.models.engineering would be a far more 'on-topic' 
group?...

Clue, many model engineers will be insulted if you were to call them 
'railway modellers'!
-- 
Wikipedia: the Internet equivalent of
Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'...

IM A PIZZLE HEAD named Jerry ( after tom and Jerry ) I am so sad and lonely.
I love my brain its highly amusing to me ~ myself ~ and I
I havent got a layout ~ dont have any modeller skills ~ My Brain and Myself 
love to reply to posts cos im unemployed and hate any governments I havent 
got any need to work cos the tax payers pay for me im also claiming any 
benifits i can to pay for my web connection just to reply with my pizzle 
posts.
I enjoy Mike Hughs and Dragon Heart so so much
Jerry
-- 
Wikipedia: the Internet equivalent of
Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'...



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> "Dragon Heart"  wrote in message 
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>> WalesOnline
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>> South Wales Echo
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>> 9th september 2008
>>
>> "I am the chairman of the Cardiff Model Engineering Society in Heath
>> Park.
>>
>
> ...and it's relevance to this group is what exactly, considering that 
> news:uk.rec.models.engineering would be a far more 'on-topic' group?...
>
> Clue, many model engineers will be insulted if you were to call them 
> 'railway modellers'!
> -- 
> Wikipedia: the Internet equivalent of
> Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'...
>

...///... trolling snipped ...///...

Some clueless retard is looking to get kicked off the net before too 
long if they carry on...

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"Dragon Heart"  wrote in message 
news:07865a68-aaaf-41ae-9b50-183fefe3fbbe@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> WalesOnline
>
> South Wales Echo
>
> 9th september 2008
>
> "I am the chairman of the Cardiff Model Engineering Society in Heath
> Park.
>
> I would like to introduce some accuracy into the debate over our
> activities as described by Councillor Page and Mr Britton who have
> recently had letters published in the Echo.
>


I'd rather have seen Councillor Page's letter.   Probably more interesting. 
;o)

On 10 Sep, 14:08, "Jerry" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:
> IM A PIZZLE HEAD named Jerry ( after tom and Jerry ) I am so sad and lonely.
> I love my brain its highly amusing to me ~ myself ~ and I
> I havent got a layout ~ dont have any modeller skills ~ My Brain and Myself
> love to reply to posts cos im unemployed and hate any governments I havent
> got any need to work cos the tax payers pay for me im also claiming any
> benifits i can to pay for my web connection just to reply with my pizzle
> posts.
> I enjoy Mike Hughs and Dragon Heart so so much
> Jerry
> --
> Wikipedia: the Internet equivalent of
> Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'...
>
> "Jerry" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message
>
> news:ga8fqr$as9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Dragon Heart"  wrote in message
> >news:07865a68-aaaf-41ae-9b50-183fefe3fbbe@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >> WalesOnline
>
> >> South Wales Echo
>
> >> 9th september 2008
>
> >> "I am the chairman of the Cardiff Model Engineering Society in Heath
> >> Park.
>
> > ...and it's relevance to this group is what exactly, considering that
> > news:uk.rec.models.engineering would be a far more 'on-topic' group?...
>
> > Clue, many model engineers will be insulted if you were to call them
> > 'railway modellers'!
> > --
> > Wikipedia: the Internet equivalent of
> > Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But 'Jerry' out of Tom & Jerry (cat & mouse) is funny.  Unless you are
referring to the Tom & Jerry from The Van Beuren Studio's back in the
early 30's

Like you neither Tom nor Jerry (renamed Dick and Larry) had a whole
lot of personality !

Your unemployed .... I wonder why ?

If you ever do attend Hyde Park and 'speakers corner' please let me
know as I have some rotten eggs & fruit I need to dispose of !

Please keep posting as they remind me there is something less
intelligent than the slugs at the bottom of my garden :-)

Have a nice day !

On 10 Sep, 17:29, "Keith W" <invalidaddr...@invalidaddress.invalid>
wrote:
> "Dragon Heart"  wrote in message
>
> news:07865a68-aaaf-41ae-9b50-183fefe3fbbe@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > WalesOnline
>
> > South Wales Echo
>
> > 9th september 2008
>
> > "I am the chairman of the Cardiff Model Engineering Society in Heath
> > Park.
>
> > I would like to introduce some accuracy into the debate over our
> > activities as described by Councillor Page and Mr Britton who have
> > recently had letters published in the Echo.
>
> I'd rather have seen Councillor Page's letter.   Probably more interesting.
> ;o)

Other 'letters to the editor' on the subject

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/09/11/model-railway-is-a-great-facility-91466-21795022/

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/07/26/railway-brings-happiness-to-all-91466-21409064/

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/09/09/park-belongs-to-the-citizens-of-cardiff-91466-21708418/

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/09/03/not-too-chuffed-at-railway-plans-91466-21664125/

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/08/29/park-survey-has-not-been-done-91466-21628238/

Sorry can't find Councillor Page's letter

In message 
          Dragon Heart  wrote:

> On 10 Sep, 17:29, "Keith W" <invalidaddr...@invalidaddress.invalid>
> wrote:
> > "Dragon Heart"  wrote in message
> >
> > news:07865a68-aaaf-41ae-9b50-183fefe3fbbe@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > WalesOnline
> >
> > > South Wales Echo
> >
> > > 9th september 2008
> >
> > > "I am the chairman of the Cardiff Model Engineering Society in Heath
> > > Park.
> >
> > > I would like to introduce some accuracy into the debate over our
> > > activities as described by Councillor Page and Mr Britton who have
> > > recently had letters published in the Echo.
> >
> > I'd rather have seen Councillor Page's letter.   Probably more interesting.
> > ;o)
> 
> Other 'letters to the editor' on the subject
> 
> http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/09/11/model-railway-is-a-great-facility-91466-21795022/
> 
> http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/07/26/railway-brings-happiness-to-all-91466-21409064/
> 
> http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/09/09/park-belongs-to-the-citizens-of-cardiff-91466-21708418/
> 
> http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/09/03/not-too-chuffed-at-railway-plans-91466-21664125/
> 
> http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/08/29/park-survey-has-not-been-done-91466-21628238/
> 
> Sorry can't find Councillor Page's letter

It all sounds so horribly farmiliar! One of the best off-road sites,
near Chesterfield, had problems with staging events due to the 
percieved presence of some newt or flower or something. Proposals
were put forward to "manage" the site, and an "action plan" was
put forward to "maintain the environment" etc etc - all at cost
to you, dear tax payer, of course. Those causing the problem
simply couldn't get it through thick heads that the reason the 
newts/plants were there was simply *because* it is an off-road
site - no "management" required! I believe this was resolved 
by the farmer insisting on site checks to find the newts/plants,
and also insisting the he, or a representative, be in attendence
during such vistits. I'll leave you to speculate why he did this,
but no newts/plants were found, and the facility is still used by 
many thousands of happy people, rather than being fenced off.

Cheers
Richard 

-- 
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk       sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
              I have become... comfortably numb

On 12 Sep, 10:18, beamendsltd  wrote:
> In message 
>           Dragon Heart  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 10 Sep, 17:29, "Keith W" <invalidaddr...@invalidaddress.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > > "Dragon Heart"  wrote in message
>
> > >news:07865a68-aaaf-41ae-9b50-183fefe3fbbe@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> > > > WalesOnline
>
> > > > South Wales Echo
>
> > > > 9th september 2008
>
> > > > "I am the chairman of the Cardiff Model Engineering Society in Heath
> > > > Park.
>
> > > > I would like to introduce some accuracy into the debate over our
> > > > activities as described by Councillor Page and Mr Britton who have
> > > > recently had letters published in the Echo.
>
> > > I'd rather have seen Councillor Page's letter.   Probably more interesting.
> > > ;o)
>
> > Other 'letters to the editor' on the subject
>
> >http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-e...
>
> >http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-e...
>
> >http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-e...
>
> >http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-e...
>
> >http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-e...
>
> > Sorry can't find Councillor Page's letter
>
> It all sounds so horribly farmiliar! One of the best off-road sites,
> near Chesterfield, had problems with staging events due to the
> percieved presence of some newt or flower or something. Proposals
> were put forward to "manage" the site, and an "action plan" was
> put forward to "maintain the environment" etc etc - all at cost
> to you, dear tax payer, of course. Those causing the problem
> simply couldn't get it through thick heads that the reason the
> newts/plants were there was simply *because* it is an off-road
> site - no "management" required! I believe this was resolved
> by the farmer insisting on site checks to find the newts/plants,
> and also insisting the he, or a representative, be in attendence
> during such vistits. I'll leave you to speculate why he did this,
> but no newts/plants were found, and the facility is still used by
> many thousands of happy people, rather than being fenced off.
>
> Cheers
> Richard
>
> --www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk      sa...@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
>               I have become... comfortably numb- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Do they still have that large 2nd hand motorbike bits shop in Stoke-on-
Trent Richard ?

Wales Online		South Wales Echo

19th September 2008

"   ......... However she stated that it is currently run by a group
of fairly elderly gentlemen.   She implied that because of this,  and
the stress involved,  it would never be likely to open more than a few
times a year.

In this case, why do they want an extension at all ?  ........  "

http://www.walesonline.co.uk:80/news/letters-to-the-editor/south-wales-echo-letters/2008/09/19/not-aware-of-wider-issues-91466-21855150/

Is that an agist comment or what ?  Perhaps these "fairly elderly
gentlemen" do this to relieve stress.

If this Mr Nick Jones of Allensbank Road,  Heath,  Cardiff would like
to put his house on the market our son would LOVE to move there and
support the development.

Chris