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date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:50:37 +0100,    group: uk.rec.models.rail        back       
starting a layout   
I am going to start a new layout, I finally have some free time on a evening 
:-)

I have some questions

Should I use cork under the track.( what advantage if any is there )

For trees is it best to buy them or make my own ?

Is it better to have a Traction maintenance depot or a stabling point, I 
will have a few locomotives and a few DMU sets.

The locomotives will be Hauling mainly VAA to VGA wagons and a few rakes of 
LHCS mk2a`s in rakes of 4 or 5

who manufactures a better class 47 Heljan or Bachmann ?

the layout is going to be fiddle yard to terminus station

thanks in advance

Misc
date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:50:37 +0100   author:   misc

Re: starting a layout   
"misc"  wrote in message 
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<snip>
>
> I have some questions
>
> Should I use cork under the track.( what advantage if any is there )

You need to use something under the track, unless you are deaf, cork 
is relatively cheap and allows for 'proper' ballasting.

>
> For trees is it best to buy them or make my own ?

That's a "how long is this bit of string I'm holding" question, it 
depends on how good you are making convincing trees!

>
> Is it better to have a Traction maintenance depot or a stabling 
> point, I will have a few locomotives and a few DMU sets.

Do you actually *need* [1] either, a stabling point can be nothing 
more than a siding, a TMD will take up far more space and will require 
substantial buildings to be convincing.

[1] you could decide that the TMD is a bit further down the line (you 
would actually use the fiddle yard), this means that you introduce 
light engine movements, you could combine both a visible stabling 
point and an 'off stage' TMD.
-- 
Wikipedia: the Internet equivalent of
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date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:37:14 +0100   author:   Jerry LID

Re: starting a layout   
>> For trees is it best to buy them or make my own ?
>
> That's a "how long is this bit of string I'm holding" question, it depends 
> on how good you are making convincing trees!

That gets me onto a seperate question...
How does someone make trees
( the layout is going to be in OO scale / gauge )
Misc
date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:46:31 +0100   author:   misc

Re: starting a layout   
On 10 Sep, 11:46, "misc"  wrote:
> >> For trees is it best to buy them or make my own ?
>
> > That's a "how long is this bit of string I'm holding" question, it depends
> > on how good you are making convincing trees!
>
> That gets me onto a seperate question...
> How does someone make trees
> ( the layout is going to be in OO scale / gauge )
> Misc

Grow your own !

http://www.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk/Scenery/Trees.htm#sea-foam

http://www.chilternseeds.co.uk/chilternseeds/211/moreinfo/d/teloxys+aristata+sea+foam/pid/31513000

http://www.haywoods-permanent-way.org.uk/model/trees.html

.... and the 'bottle brush' type

Have fun

Chris
date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:11:06 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Dragon Heart

Re: starting a layout   
http://www.haywoods-permanent-way.org.uk/model/trees.html
>
> .... and the 'bottle brush' type
>
> Have fun
>
> Chris
>

I think i will give this a try using wire, it looks interesting.
Better than using the Hornby R553 I hope
Misc
date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:38:19 +0100   author:   misc

Re: starting a layout   
"misc"  wrote in message 
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> http://www.haywoods-permanent-way.org.uk/model/trees.html
>>
<snip>
>
> I think i will give this a try using wire, it looks interesting.
> Better than using the Hornby R553 I hope

Otherwise, have a look at;
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/price1.php4?prod_selected=scenics
-- 
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Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'...
date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:23:01 +0100   author:   Jerry LID

Re: starting a layout   
"misc"  wrote in message 
news:kANxk.356864$ah4.206151@newsfe15.ams2...
>
>>> For trees is it best to buy them or make my own ?
>>
>> That's a "how long is this bit of string I'm holding" question, it 
>> depends on how good you are making convincing trees!
>
> That gets me onto a seperate question...
> How does someone make trees
> ( the layout is going to be in OO scale / gauge )

Take a look at this RMWeb thread:
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8600
date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:56:08 +0100   author:   Peter James

Re: starting a layout   
"Jerry" <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message 
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>
> "misc"  wrote in message 
> news:6dPxk.23128$1i2.9516@newsfe29.ams2...
>> http://www.haywoods-permanent-way.org.uk/model/trees.html
>>>
> <snip>
>>
>> I think i will give this a try using wire, it looks interesting.
>> Better than using the Hornby R553 I hope
>
> Otherwise, have a look at;
> http://www.bachmann.co.uk/price1.php4?prod_selected=scenics

Canadian bloke doing wargame scenery - The pines are pretty good (also cheap 
and dead easy) . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gwgae6oJk8

Mike
date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:02:56 +0100   author:   Mike Smith lid

Re: starting a layout   
misc wrote:
> who manufactures a better class 47 Heljan or Bachmann ?

Since no one else has answered this I will. They both have their good points 
so it becomes a matter of personal preference. I generally prefer the Heljan 
but the Bachmann now has built-in sound which is a major plus for me.

(kim)
date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:41:52 +0100   author:   kim

Re: starting a layout   
I didnt want to buy both Bachmann and Heljan 47s, I want to buy a few of the 
same manufaturers models.
I have asked a couple of shops and niether would say one is better than the 
other, one was reluctant to say anything about either manufaturer in general
I Have bought a F-liner 57 a few years ago made by Bachmann and the shaft 
between the motor and Bogie was broken on one side, so was thinking that 
they could all break easyly in both the 47s and 57s however it may have been 
a one off.

With Heljan a some people say there too wide / fat, is that true or is it 
just a few people who know better than everyone else but are wrong ?

misc

p.s. made a couple of wire trees, they turned not too bad but i am going to 
try again after the Shipley model exhibiion.
"kim"  wrote in message 
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>> who manufactures a better class 47 Heljan or Bachmann ?

> Since no one else has answered this I will. They both have their good 
> points so it becomes a matter of personal preference. I generally prefer 
> the Heljan but the Bachmann now has built-in sound which is a major plus 
> for me.

> (kim)
>
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:16:06 +0100   author:   minted

Re: starting a layout   
> Canadian bloke doing wargame scenery - The pines are pretty good (also 
> cheap
> and dead easy) . .
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gwgae6oJk8
>
> Mike
It looks a lot quicker doing it the way he made them ( he must have made 
loads), so I will try with his tips e.g. spraying glue from the top down. I 
do not think I will use doweling though because the tree just looks too 
strait for what I want, although it does look good as a pine tree

misc

( AKA Minted )
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:40:42 +0100   author:   misc

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